From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 00:31:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 00:31:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 28870 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 00:31:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 28866 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 00:31:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 00:31:28 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E8F6D19AB4; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:31:15 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7515719AA8 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:30:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08639 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:30:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h5UFUo708016 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:30:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200306301530.h5UFUo708016@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] 'find' In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:18:57 EDT." <20030630141857.15163.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:30:50 -0400 Scott Schwartz writes: > > | (note that awk '{print $1}' won't necessarily work instead of > | the above sed since filenames can contain spaces). > > Apparently awk needs a way to split on quoted tokens, not just whitespace, > now. One wonders if FS can't be set appropriately by negating the things that would make for valid tokens. Even if possible, it'd be an ugly ERE. - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 02:01:50 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 02:01:50 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 30164 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 02:01:39 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 30160 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 02:01:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 02:01:31 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BF85619AB8; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:01:16 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from edoras.nas.com (edoras.nas.com [206.63.100.8]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1A13D19ABC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:00:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nas.com (unknown [164.116.190.46]) by edoras.nas.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59FB7EB3D2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:56:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F006BC5.4070309@nas.com> From: Jack Johnson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030416 Thunderbird/0.1a X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] book chapters References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:56:37 -0700 ron minnich wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, matt wrote: >>>For instance, you have a set of people whose files you want readable by >>>their supervisors, but not by their peers. >>maybe I'm missing something >>-rw-rw---- 1 worker_5 bosses 851968 Jun 3 17:11 daily.toil > From my point of view this is not the same. > Jack wants "anybody but my boss" Nope, matt got it right, I'm just an idiot. Actually, you both got it right, I just used two conflicting (and probably unclear) examples. "Everybody but Bob" where Bob is my boss (as opposed to my uncle), is a pain to continually manage, as you said, but matt's example is correct where worker_5 is Nameless_Worker_In_Cubicle_5 and bosses is the fluctuating innumerable set of people who have authority over his work. Where I have problems with matt's solution breaking down is when you have worker_5 creating random sets of files in a traditional hierarchy. Any subfolders he/she/it creates lose the rw permissions for the bosses group, and even with the sticky bit set for the group you lose those permissions the next level deep. The specific example I see at work is where you have (young) students who want or need direct assistance or supervision from their teachers, but the teachers don't want to make it drag-and-drop easy for the students to submit another's work as their own. This often is as simple as helping a student locate the correct version of a document or assessing student work in-place without going through some sort of data or paper submission process. Plus, without a super user per se in Plan 9, typical academic institution style management slowly becomes increasingly complex: (not to mention any Napsterized copyright infringements permanently fossilized, or the variations in philosophy in the sharing of knowledge vs. the stewardship of academic product :) Typical scenario: -> Disallow students to share/see each other's work -> Allow staff to see work but not modify/delete -> Allow administrators to read/modify/delete Shared project space: -> Allow staff/administrators to create folders -> Allow any to read/create/modify subfolders/files -> Allow owner or staff/administrators to read/modify/delete files Project/assignment submission folders: -> Allow students to write data but not read -> Disallow students to delete/overwrite previously written data -> Allow staff/administrators to read/delete files ...plus the lovely subsets of complex human interaction: - Jimmy and Sally are working on a project, Sally can't delete Jimmy's file but can modify it, so she deletes its contents. - Billy wants to copy Wendy's work, but can't just take it. She drops it in the shared filespace of another class for him to retrieve. Even in an ACL world things aren't perfect, but it does seem to allow one the flexibility of trying to accomodate the real world rather than attempting to manipulate human behavior to accomodate a file creation mask. I realize Plan 9 wasn't necessarily designed for this environment (and I'm not currently using it as such), but looking at the file permissions model in general it's interesting to ponder what a good, alternative model could be. I was idly watching the first eight minutes of "Revolution OS" at ifilm.com a while back http://www.ifilm.com/filmdetail?ifilmid=2419320 and chuckling at some comment (probably RMS) talking about using blank passwords and password crackers in the early days to underline the idea that security was sort of a misnomer, it's better to share, blah blah blah, but it made me at least reconsider the whole notion of file security. I've always thought it was better to attempt to secure the service, host or protocol rather than (increasingly common it seems) relying on a secure network (using firewalls, VPN and IDS) to protect your network, and now from that clip I sometimes think, OK, if you assume your filespace is insecure, lousy or whatever, what can you do to mitigate that? Write-only like fossil, or some shared cryptographic technique like SFS, maybe. Private namespaces can go a long way to making it kind of a non-issue depending on how you decide to handle the shared filespace, but I think it's good to realize that there are a dozen different, *decent* ways of looking at the problem. -Jack From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 02:18:41 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 02:18:41 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 30425 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 02:18:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 30421 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 02:18:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 02:18:30 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BACEA19ABF; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:18:16 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-01.noos.net [212.198.2.70]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B9B5E19AB5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:17:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30752917 invoked by uid 0); 30 Jun 2003 17:17:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.70 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 30 Jun 2003 17:17:19 -0000 Message-ID: <010b01c33f2b$6c8f9a80$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <3F006BC5.4070309@nas.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] book chapters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:16:53 +0200 why not just a write a file server that mounts itself on / and implements whatever policy you'd like to dream up? it would just implement the policy, whatever that might be, and use the underlying filesystem to store the bits. isn't it just protocol conversion? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 02:21:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 02:21:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 30478 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 02:21:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 30474 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 02:21:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 02:21:25 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 144CE19ABC; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:21:16 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from mailrelay1.lanl.gov (mailrelay1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.101]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9AF5919ABA for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:20:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay1.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h5UHJxte009623 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:19:59 -0600 Received: from maxroach.lanl.gov (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h5UHJxtg010587 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:19:59 -0600 From: ron minnich To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] book chapters In-Reply-To: <010b01c33f2b$6c8f9a80$d2944251@insultant.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:19:58 -0600 (MDT) On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, boyd, rounin wrote: > why not just a write a file server that mounts itself on / and implements > whatever policy you'd like to dream up? it would just implement the > policy, whatever that might be, and use the underlying filesystem to > store the bits. > > isn't it just protocol conversion? I was wondering if you could even implement the data and resources forks with 9p. The file would be somefile, with the actual data as somefile/data and resource fork under somefile/resource ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 02:24:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 02:24:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 30520 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 02:24:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 30516 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 02:24:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 02:24:28 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 837B619AC0; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:24:18 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-12.noos.net [212.198.2.83]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E820319AB9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:23:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18081071 invoked by uid 0); 30 Jun 2003 17:23:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.83 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 30 Jun 2003 17:23:21 -0000 Message-ID: <010f01c33f2c$43f2c380$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <200306191950.h5JJol706204@augusta.math.psu.edu> <020001c3369c$eaa0a320$e3944251@insultant.net> <3F004596.2030407@proweb.co.uk> Subject: Re: [9fans] dennis quote? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:22:59 +0200 > although said does anyone have a decent link, I'm /. trolling and could > use the ammunition 8) i can't remember whether i read it or i heard him say it. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 02:25:23 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 02:25:23 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 30528 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 02:25:22 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 30524 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 02:25:22 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 02:25:22 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 48EE319AC4; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:25:16 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from mailrelay2.lanl.gov (mailrelay2.lanl.gov [128.165.4.103]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 36A0F19AB5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:24:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay2.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h5UHOB58032592 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:24:11 -0600 Received: from maxroach.lanl.gov (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h5UHOBtg010778 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:24:11 -0600 From: ron minnich To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] book chapters In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:24:10 -0600 (MDT) On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, ron minnich wrote: > I was wondering if you could even implement the data and resources forks for Macintosh file systems > with 9p. The file would be somefile, with the actual data as > somefile/data > and resource fork under somefile/resource Sorry, I left that out. ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 02:31:40 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 02:31:40 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 30608 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 02:31:39 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 30603 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 02:31:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 02:31:28 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6E67619AC5; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:31:16 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-03.noos.net [212.198.2.72]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0D19A19AB9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:30:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19132964 invoked by uid 0); 30 Jun 2003 17:30:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.72 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 30 Jun 2003 17:30:18 -0000 Message-ID: <012201c33f2d$3ce318a0$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] book chapters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:29:58 +0200 > Sorry, I left that out. yeah, well i left out that i just see it as a matter of smashing 9P requests/responses so that you get what you want. there may be better ways, but it was the first one that sprang to mind. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 03:18:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 03:18:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 31551 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 03:18:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 31547 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 03:18:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 03:18:29 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EEDAD19AC6; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:18:15 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from plg2.math.uwaterloo.ca (plg2.math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.200]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5EE97199BC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:17:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rcbilson@localhost) by plg2.math.uwaterloo.ca (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) id OAA27322 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:17:44 -0400 From: Richard C Bilson Message-Id: <200306301817.OAA27322@plg2.math.uwaterloo.ca> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] book chapters Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:17:44 -0400 > From: Jack Johnson > > Where I have problems with matt's solution breaking down is when you > have worker_5 creating random sets of files in a traditional hierarchy. > Any subfolders he/she/it creates lose the rw permissions for the > bosses group, and even with the sticky bit set for the group you lose > those permissions the next level deep. Directories created in a group-sticky directory are group-sticky, at least on the UNIX-esque systems that I use. > The specific example I see at work is where you have (young) students > who want or need direct assistance or supervision from their teachers, > but the teachers don't want to make it drag-and-drop easy for the > students to submit another's work as their own. This often is as simple > as helping a student locate the correct version of a document or > assessing student work in-place without going through some sort of data > or paper submission process. We do exactly that here at Waterloo, using standard groups. Every student in CS 452 (for instance) has a cs452 directory owned by group cs452; only the course staff are members of this group. This works well for things like e-mail help. For the upper-year courses where cheating is less of an issue, we can get students to submit simply by throwing their stuff in this dir for us to peruse at our leisure. A cron job sweeps the file system each night to fix the permissions on class dirs for the benefit of those who delete or break things. > Typical scenario: > -> Disallow students to share/see each other's work > -> Allow staff to see work but not modify/delete > -> Allow administrators to read/modify/delete This is almost what we get, although staff have modify/delete access. If you don't trust your staff with student work I think you have bigger problems than just your file system. We have solutions for your other scenarios too, although I'm sure they'd be much prettier with ACLs. > Even in an ACL world things aren't perfect, but it does seem to allow > one the flexibility of trying to accomodate the real world rather than > attempting to manipulate human behavior to accomodate a file creation mask. Although the flexibility generally comes at the price of increased complexity. Then again, human behavior is inherently complex, so it might be an appropriate trade-off. I don't really mean to come out against ACLs -- they're a good thing if they allow users to create "groups" for themselves without administrative intervention. But if there existed a simple mechanism to allow users to define and manage their own groups, I'd probably never want them. - Richard From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 03:38:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 03:38:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 31852 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 03:38:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 31848 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 03:38:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 03:38:30 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 967ED19AC8; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:38:16 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from rapido.vitanuova.com (unknown [62.254.170.97]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EE747199BC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:37:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] book chapters From: rog@vitanuova.com In-Reply-To: <3F006BC5.4070309@nas.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:40:56 +0100 > Where I have problems with matt's solution breaking down is when you > have worker_5 creating random sets of files in a traditional hierarchy. > Any subfolders he/she/it creates lose the rw permissions for the > bosses group, and even with the sticky bit set for the group you lose > those permissions the next level deep. actually, you're thinking in unix terms there. plan 9 has different semantics, such that the attributes of a directory *are* inherited. % cd /tmp % mkdir x % ls -ld x d-rwxr-xr-x M 9 rog rog 0 Jun 30 18:57 x % chgrp sys x % chmod 770 x % ls -ld x d-rwxrwx--- M 9 rog sys 0 Jun 30 18:57 x % mkdir x/foo % ls -ld x/foo d-rwxrwx--- M 9 rog sys 0 Jun 30 18:57 x/foo % > x/foo/bar % ls -l x/foo --rw-rw---- M 9 rog sys 0 Jun 30 18:57 x/foo/bar % > why not just a write a file server that mounts itself on / and implements > whatever policy you'd like to dream up? it would just implement the > policy, whatever that might be, and use the underlying filesystem to > store the bits. > > isn't it just protocol conversion? the problem is that if parts of that filesystem are bound elsewhere in the namespace, it's difficult to find out how to access the attributes of a particular file without knowing where it comes from. i've sometimes thought about a system where one might be able to access filesystem-specific meta-information on a file through that file itself. > I was wondering if you could even implement the data and resources forks > with 9p. The file would be somefile, with the actual data as > somefile/data > and resource fork under somefile/resource the problem with this is that *all* files have to be stored this way, or... you have to try and open "file", then "file/data", and reading the parent directory (the container of "file") doesn't tell you anything useful about the attributes of the files it contains (you have to ls */data). NeXTstep (and presumably now macos X) does something like this for applications, but it never seemed like a particularly elegant solution, as it's not transparent to code that really doesn't care about this kind of thing. to wander away from reality a little: one could add a 9p message, say "walkmeta", similar to walk, but which provides a fid that corresponds to the meta-information for a particular file. there is precedent for using a fid for out of band information: the fid created by attach and used by auth is just there to negotiate protocol meta-information. of course, what the conventions might be on such a fid is open to argument: does it just look like a file which can be read and written, or could it be a directory hierarchy (allowing meta-meta information, perhaps? :-]). to follow this flight of fancy a little further, suppose that walkmeta does provide a fid which can be further walked, and we add a new path separator, say "#", such that evaluating x#y means "walk to x in the normal namespace; then walkmeta to y". then one could imagine a scenario similar to the following: % ls -l x --rw-rw---- M 9 rog sys 0 Jun 30 18:57 x % cat 'x#acl' rog foo bar % echo add baz > 'x#acl' echo: write error: unkown user % cd 'x#.' % ls acl % pwd x#. % ls -l acl fs resource % ls -l 'acl#.' ls: acl#.: no metadata % just musing. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 04:01:41 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 04:01:41 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 32420 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 04:01:40 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 32416 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 04:01:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 04:01:28 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C129719ADF; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 15:01:20 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from athena.softcardsystems.com (mail.softcardsystems.com [12.34.136.114]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C00F2199BC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 15:00:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athena (athena [12.34.136.114]) by athena.softcardsystems.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h5UI4Ofw019503 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:04:24 -0400 From: Sam X-Sender: To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:04:24 -0400 (EDT) I'm having some trouble rationalizing the extra two byte size as documented in stat(5) BUGS. I see how having size[2] as part of the stat layout helps in parsing multiple directory entries end-to-end in a read(5). Where I'm stuck is why it's more consistent to add another one. If the argument were, ``while we could elide the size[2] field from the stat layout because the length of the remainder of the message is known, we leave it in for consistency with directory reads'' I would understand. What am I missing here? Sam From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 04:09:40 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 04:09:40 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 32637 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 04:09:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 32632 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 04:09:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 04:09:29 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 97EA219ACB; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 15:09:16 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from mailrelay2.lanl.gov (mailrelay2.lanl.gov [128.165.4.103]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3BA92199BC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 15:08:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay2.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h5UJ8C58011430 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:08:12 -0600 Received: from maxroach.lanl.gov (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h5UJ89tg015290 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:08:09 -0600 From: ron minnich To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:08:08 -0600 (MDT) On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Sam wrote: > I'm having some trouble rationalizing the extra > two byte size as documented in stat(5) BUGS. I > see how having size[2] as part of the stat layout > helps in parsing multiple directory entries > end-to-end in a read(5). Where I'm stuck is > why it's more consistent to add another one. well it confused me too in v9fs but once I saw what was going on it actually makes a kind of sense to me. ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 04:16:40 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 04:16:40 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 311 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 04:16:39 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 306 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 04:16:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 04:16:28 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 94EB119AE1; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 15:16:16 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-03.noos.net [212.198.2.72]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 98998199BC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 15:15:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19092915 invoked by uid 0); 30 Jun 2003 19:15:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.72 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 30 Jun 2003 19:15:41 -0000 Message-ID: <001001c33f3b$fc61e400$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 21:15:36 +0200 is it not because of? A read of a directory yields an integral number of directory entries in the machine independent encoding given above (see read(5)). glueing partial directory entries back together is no fun. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 05:10:42 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 05:10:42 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 1269 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 05:10:41 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 1265 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 05:10:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 05:10:33 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3E41619ACD; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 16:10:16 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from rgristroph-austin.ath.cx (cs24348-204.austin.rr.com [24.243.48.204]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E373819AC9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 16:09:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgr by rgristroph-austin.ath.cx with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19X4yU-0000Ac-00; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 15:10:06 -0500 From: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org (Rob Ristroph) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: <87k7b3l42q.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> Lines: 62 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Subject: [9fans] compiling a pcauth kernel Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: 30 Jun 2003 15:10:05 -0500 --=-=-= Hi everybody, I am attempting to follow the directions in wiki at: http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/Configuring_a_standalone_CPU_server/index.html I inserted the bootdir section into the kernel configuration file as directed; yet when I compile I get an error message (I have attached the entire compile output at the end of this message): 8c -FVw bootpcauth.c 8l -o bootpcauth.out bootpcauth.8 ../boot/libboot.a8 print.8 ../port/mkroot bootpcauth boot bootpcauth.c:8 name not declared: configfactotum bootpcauth.c:8 name not declared: connectfactotum bootpcauth.c:8 name not declared: factotum bootpcauth.c:9 name not declared: config bootpcauth.c:9 name not declared: bin bootpcauth.c:9 name not declared: disk bootpcauth.c:9 name not declared: kfs bootpcauth.c:9 name not declared: connect bootpcauth.c:9 name not declared: bin bootpcauth.c:9 name not declared: disk bootpcauth.c:9 name not declared: kfs too many errors mk: ../boot/mkboot pcauth > ... : exit status=rc 583: 8c 595: error term% ls -l 9pcauth ls: 9pcauth: '9pcauth' directory entry not found term% I looked in our archives and I found a previous message that might have been someone complaining about the same issue: https://lists.cse.psu.edu/archives/9fans/2003-February/022826.html I tried the bootdir entries that people responded with in that thread, and they gave similar errors. I looked at that mkboot script which seems to make the bootpcauth.c file, and if I understood what it was trying to do maybe I could just write the bootpcauth.c file myself or fix the script. I read the wiki entries on compiling the kernel and bootdir. I can compile a kernel if I simply omit the entire bootdir section from the pcauth configuration file. However, when it reboots it requires me to tell it what kernel to boot from as well as the usual [il,local] and user login, and I have other problems in later steps ( the "auth/changeuser bootes" step gives "changeuser: can't create user bootes: access permission denied" ). Is this bootdir stuff really necessary, and if so, where should I start reading to make it work ? Or has making a kernel without the bootdir section succeeded, and I should focus on those error messages ? Thanks in advance ! --Rob --=-=-= Content-Type: application/octet-stream Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=mk.log term% pwd /sys/src/9/pc term% mk 'CONF=pcauth' ../boot/libboot.a8 doesn't exist: assuming it will be an archive rc ../port/mkdevc pcauth > pcauth.c 8a $AFLAGS l.s 8a $AFLAGS plan9l.s 8c -FVw cga.c 8c -FVw i8253.c 8c -FVw i8259.c 8c -FVw kbd.c 8a initcode.s 8l -l -R4 -o init.out initcode.8 {echo 'uchar initcode[]={' xd -1x init.out | sed -e 's/^[0-9a-f]+ //' -e 's/ ([0-9a-f][0-9a-f])/0x\1,/g' echo '};'} > init.h 8c -FVw memory.c 8c -FVw mmu.c 8c -FVw random.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/rdb.c 8c -FVw trap.c 8c -FVw vga.c 8c -FVw ether82557.c 8c -FVw uarti8250.c 8c -FVw sdata.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/devmnt.c 8c -FVw -I. ../ip/iproute.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/devtls.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/devdup.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/devenv.c 8c -FVw -I. ../ip/tcp.c 8c -FVw apm.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/devsd.c 8c -FVw vgax.c 8c -FVw devarch.c 8c -FVw -I. ../ip/ipifc.c 8c -FVw devether.c 8c -FVw -I. ../ip/chandial.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/devsrv.c 8c -FVw -I. ../ip/icmp.c 8c -FVw -I. ../ip/ethermedium.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/devcap.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/devproc.c 8c -FVw dma.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/devmouse.c 8c -FVw devrtc.c 8c -FVw devfloppy.c 8c -FVw -I. ../ip/ip.c 8c -FVw -I. ../ip/udp.c 8c -FVw -I. ../ip/ipv6.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/devcons.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/devpnp.c 8c -FVw -I. ../ip/il.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/devuart.c 8c -FVw -I. ../ip/arp.c 8c -FVw uartpci.c cp /386/bin/disk/kfs kfs.out ../port/mkroot kfs kfs mkroot kfs kfs mkroot kfs kfs done 8c -FVw screen.c 8c -FVw -I. ../ip/devip.c 8a $AFLAGS ptclbsum386.s 8c -FVw -I. ../port/devkprof.c 8c -FVw -I. ../ip/pktmedium.c 8c -FVw vgamach64xx.c cp /386/bin/ip/ipconfig ipconfig.out ../port/mkroot ipconfig ipconfig mkroot ipconfig ipconfig mkroot ipconfig ipconfig done 8c -FVw -I. ../ip/ipaux.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/devpipe.c 8a $AFLAGS apmjump.s 8c -FVw sdscsi.c 8c -FVw -I. ../ip/inferno.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/devroot.c cp /386/bin/auth/factotum factotum.out ../port/mkroot factotum factotum mkroot factotum factotum mkroot factotum factotum done 8c -FVw -I. ../ip/netlog.c 8c -FVw devvga.c 8c -FVw mouse.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/devdraw.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/devssl.c 8c -FVw -I. ../ip/nullmedium.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/netif.c 8c -FVw pci.c 8c -FVw -I. ../ip/icmp6.c 8c -FVw -I. ../ip/netdevmedium.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/alarm.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/alloc.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/allocb.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/auth.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/cache.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/chan.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/dev.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/fault.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/latin1.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/nulledf.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/page.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/parse.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/pgrp.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/portclock.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/print.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/proc.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/qio.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/qlock.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/rebootcmd.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/segment.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/swap.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/sysfile.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/sysproc.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/taslock.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/tod.c 8c -FVw -I. ../port/xalloc.c 8c -I../boot -FVw ../boot/bootauth.c 8c -I../boot -FVw ../boot/aux.c 8c -I../boot -FVw ../boot/boot.c 8c -I../boot -FVw ../boot/bootcache.c 8c -I../boot -FVw ../boot/bootip.c 8c -I../boot -FVw ../boot/local.c 8c -I../boot -FVw ../boot/embed.c 8c -I../boot -FVw ../boot/settime.c 8c -I../boot -FVw ../boot/sac.c 8c -I../boot -FVw ../boot/paq.c 8c -FVw main.c 8a $AFLAGS kfs.root.s 8a $AFLAGS ipconfig.root.s 8a $AFLAGS factotum.root.s names=`{membername $newprereq} ar vu ../boot/libboot.a8 $names rm $names ar: creating ../boot/libboot.a8 a - bootauth.8 a - aux.8 a - boot.8 a - bootcache.8 a - bootip.8 a - local.8 a - embed.8 a - settime.8 a - sac.8 a - paq.8 ../boot/mkboot pcauth > bootpcauth.c 8c -FVw bootpcauth.c 8l -o bootpcauth.out bootpcauth.8 ../boot/libboot.a8 print.8 ../port/mkroot bootpcauth boot bootpcauth.c:8 name not declared: configfactotum bootpcauth.c:8 name not declared: connectfactotum bootpcauth.c:8 name not declared: factotum bootpcauth.c:9 name not declared: config bootpcauth.c:9 name not declared: bin bootpcauth.c:9 name not declared: disk bootpcauth.c:9 name not declared: kfs bootpcauth.c:9 name not declared: connect bootpcauth.c:9 name not declared: bin bootpcauth.c:9 name not declared: disk bootpcauth.c:9 name not declared: kfs too many errors mk: ../boot/mkboot pcauth > ... : exit status=rc 583: 8c 595: error term% ls -l 9pcauth ls: 9pcauth: '9pcauth' directory entry not found term% --=-=-=-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 05:17:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 05:17:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 1362 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 05:17:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 1358 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 05:17:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 05:17:27 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B882E19AD2; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 16:17:15 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1D04319ACE for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 16:16:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h5UKFweH014175 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:15:58 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h5UKFwUf014171 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:15:58 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] compiling a pcauth kernel In-Reply-To: <87k7b3l42q.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:15:58 -0600 (MDT) this works for me (pcauth kernel): bootdir bootpcauth.out boot /386/bin/ip/ipconfig /386/bin/auth/factotum /386/bin/disk/kfs never really dug into it though. I was afraid to change the wiki since I wasn't sure whether I'm not doing something wrong... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 05:21:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 05:21:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 1455 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 05:21:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 1451 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 05:21:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 05:21:34 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 16C4019AD8; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 16:21:16 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 00F0A199BC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 16:20:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h5UKKoeH014190 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:20:50 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h5UKKoNL014186 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:20:50 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] compiling a pcauth kernel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:20:50 -0600 (MDT) need to mention this too -- the kernels able to boot out of a fossil partition have a much more elaborate 'bootdir' section. it may be worthy looking at 'pcfl' (i think) to glean some more insight into what goes there and why... andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 05:28:38 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 05:28:38 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 1517 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 05:28:37 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 1513 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 05:28:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 05:28:32 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 20E1819AD9; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 16:28:17 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CF6B319AD3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 16:26:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <12470972885109a893b68449907e023b@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] compiling a pcauth kernel In-Reply-To: <87k7b3l42q.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 16:26:53 -0400 I just did cd /sys/src/9/pc mk 'CONF=pcauth' on sources and it compiled without said errors. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 05:36:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 05:36:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 1624 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 05:36:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 1620 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 05:36:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 05:36:29 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AB5EF19ADC; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 16:36:16 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3B60A19ACE for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 16:35:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h5UKZSeH014216 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:35:28 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h5UKZSLH014212 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:35:28 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] compiling a pcauth kernel In-Reply-To: <12470972885109a893b68449907e023b@plan9.bell-labs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:35:28 -0600 (MDT) he followed these instructions from the wiki (http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/Configuring_a_standalone_CPU_server/index.html): --- paste --- Standalone implies the server will boot from it's own kfs, hence kfs is needed in the 'bootdir' section of kernel configuration. Also required in this section is the factotum for Authentication. bootdir factotum.hack factotum /386/bin/disk/kfs --- /paste --- I haven't had the guts to remove them from the Wiki, though I've known this to be a bug... andrey On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, David Presotto wrote: > I just did > > cd /sys/src/9/pc > mk 'CONF=pcauth' > > on sources and it compiled without said errors. > From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 06:12:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 06:12:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 2456 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 06:12:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 2452 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 06:12:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 06:12:29 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5D87A19ACF; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 17:12:16 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-06.noos.net [212.198.2.75]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6F35719AB5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 17:11:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 975140 invoked by uid 0); 30 Jun 2003 21:11:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.75 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 30 Jun 2003 21:11:42 -0000 Message-ID: <003d01c33f4c$31392980$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <12470972885109a893b68449907e023b@plan9.bell-labs.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] compiling a pcauth kernel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 23:11:28 +0200 > cd /sys/src/9/pc > mk 'CONF=pcauth' worked for me 'straight out of the box'. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 06:40:54 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 06:40:54 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 2884 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 06:40:39 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 2877 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 06:40:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 06:40:28 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F2A1D19ADE; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 17:40:15 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from mail.dirac.net (unknown [151.196.211.14]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 9936819992 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 17:39:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25378 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Jun 2003 21:36:42 -0000 Message-ID: <20030630213642.25377.qmail@mail.dirac.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] dennis quote? From: Keith Nash Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: 30 Jun 2003 21:36:42 -0000 > boyd, rounin wrote: > >what did dennis say once? > > > > unix retarded o/s development by 10 years > > > > linux retarded o/s development by 20 years > > although said does anyone have a decent link, I'm /. trolling and could > use the ammunition 8) I too recall reading this remark, but with the figure of *30* years for the retardation of o/s *research* due to Linux; I also think the remark was attributed to Rob Pike, but I never saw the "original". The remark is not mentioned in the slides for his talk "Systems Software Research is Irrelevant" [ http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/rob/utah2000.ps ] but would fit neatly with slides 17 and 18. I don't know how much MS Windows retarded o/s research, but it set back documentation by 140 years: in common with Babbage's Difference Engine, the most useful instructions are provided by third parties: [ http://ed-thelen.org/bab/bab-intro.html ] Keith. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 08:17:21 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 08:17:21 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 4213 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 08:17:20 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 4209 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 08:17:20 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 08:17:20 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3929419AE8; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:17:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from ar.aichi-u.ac.jp (ar.aichi-u.ac.jp [202.250.160.40]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 07CFB19992 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:16:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ar.aichi-u.ac.jp ([61.211.130.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 08:16:37 JST 2003 Subject: Re: [9fans] book chapters Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Kenji Arisawa To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 08:16:37 +0900 Hello, I have many students in my university. In receiving reports from my students, Plan 9 doesn't have safe solution. I would be happy if Plan 9 has append only directory. The concept is similar to that of append only file. Kenji Arisawa From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 08:25:38 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 08:25:38 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 4445 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 08:25:22 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 4441 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 08:25:21 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 08:25:21 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5108C19AEB; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:25:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-12.noos.net [212.198.2.83]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A7BEB19AE9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:24:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18322846 invoked by uid 0); 30 Jun 2003 23:24:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.83 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 30 Jun 2003 23:24:32 -0000 Message-ID: <006d01c33f5e$c0154140$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] book chapters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 01:24:18 +0200 > I would be happy if Plan 9 has append only directory. > The concept is similar to that of append only file. a blind directory? gee that can't be hard. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 10:06:22 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 10:06:22 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 8356 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 10:06:20 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 8352 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 10:06:20 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 10:06:20 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 514FD19AEC; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 21:06:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C5D5619992 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 21:05:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6115deH014507 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:05:39 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6115dTK014503 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:05:39 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] is there a replica limit? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:05:39 -0600 (MDT) Is there a limit to the number of pull-s one can do from sources.cs.bell-labs.com? If there is, I must've reached it since my replica/pull simply returns without issuing any errors or warnings... I'm paranoid because I've modified slightly /dist/replica/network to mount fossil (/srv/boot /n/boot) instead of the default kfs and I'm worried that something may be wrong with what I've done... Also, I know chgrp's man page says that I need to be in 'allow' mode to change the owner of a file, but I feel slightly uncomfortable having all those files in the main tree owned by my update user (I've removed myself as the update user -- again too paranoid that I may do 'mk' in /sys/src/cmd without having bound my private src/ before it...). Besides, replica/pull complains a lot because it tries to chgrp -u sys all new files... What do you think? Should files be neatly 'chgrp -u sys'-ed? Or should I do a pull only in a fossil -A mode (equivalent to disk/kfscmd allow)? andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 10:46:13 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 10:46:13 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 9898 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 10:45:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 9886 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 10:45:19 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 10:45:19 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1FC2519AEE; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 21:45:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4E52C19AEE for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 21:44:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <47fa0c881681f748cb453d9e938a5622@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] book chapters In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-nvnfxhvjkflluoppktfpqnfkcg" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 21:44:32 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-nvnfxhvjkflluoppktfpqnfkcg Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You already have that. Make the directory only writable by the students. They can create files in it but can't remove them. --upas-nvnfxhvjkflluoppktfpqnfkcg Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Mon Jun 30 19:17:18 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Mon Jun 30 19:17:16 EDT 2003 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DA2F419AE4; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:17:05 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from ar.aichi-u.ac.jp (ar.aichi-u.ac.jp [202.250.160.40]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 07CFB19992 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:16:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ar.aichi-u.ac.jp ([61.211.130.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 08:16:37 JST 2003 Subject: Re: [9fans] book chapters Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Kenji Arisawa To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 08:16:37 +0900 Hello, I have many students in my university. In receiving reports from my students, Plan 9 doesn't have safe solution. I would be happy if Plan 9 has append only directory. The concept is similar to that of append only file. Kenji Arisawa --upas-nvnfxhvjkflluoppktfpqnfkcg-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 11:20:20 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 11:20:20 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11315 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 11:20:19 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11311 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 11:20:19 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 11:20:19 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 06D1719AA2; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 22:20:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3B5A819AA2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 22:19:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] is there a replica limit? From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 11:19:27 +0900 > I'm paranoid because I've modified slightly /dist/replica/network to mount > fossil (/srv/boot /n/boot) instead of the default kfs and I'm worried that > something may be wrong with what I've done... I hesitate to apply replica direct to real file server/fossil. âş Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 11:31:22 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 11:31:22 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11845 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 11:31:20 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11841 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 11:31:20 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 11:31:20 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1CADD19AF9; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 22:31:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C653319AF3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 22:30:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h612TpeH014582 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:29:51 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h612TpVI014578 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:29:51 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] is there a replica limit? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:29:51 -0600 (MDT) On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp wrote: > I hesitate to apply replica direct to real file server/fossil. âş > I've been doing it to my kfs server for 8 months without a hitch (I trust both Russ' testing process and bell-labs developers enough for that) on a machine with a single user -- me. None of my development stuff is touchable by replica at all, too. Now with fossil I managed to overwrite cpurc and termrc (two servers with the same name, wrong rio window, etc :) but I just copied the old ones from last night's venti snap. With fossil and a mirrored disk I feel much more comfortable doing daily updates, and much less paranoid of loosing my data. andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 14:15:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 14:15:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 19658 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 14:15:22 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 19654 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 14:15:21 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 14:15:21 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0310619AF3; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 01:15:08 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D124719992 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 01:14:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h615EPeH014720 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 23:14:25 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h615EPOR014716 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 23:14:25 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1618459641-453697102-1057036465=:14298" Subject: [9fans] strange things in /sys/log/auth Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 23:14:25 -0600 (MDT) This message is in MIME format. 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Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---1618459641-453697102-1057036465=:14298 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i have the following appearing in my logs several times a day: [ see the attached file, i snipped this to ensure that my mailer doesn't mangle it ] the number of entries match the number of non-default users that I have added. for each one of them I've chosen "never" as the 'expire' option. the users were added using the fossil console, and then their options were set using auth/changeuser. is this a bug? should I change the way I'm adding users? there's nothing else wrong with authentication -- it works fine for all users, as far as I can see... andrey ---1618459641-453697102-1057036465=:14298 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; name="blah.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="blah.txt" cGxhbjkgSnVuIDMwIDE4OjU0OjE4IGtleWZzIHN0YXJ0aW5nIHdhcm5pbmdz OiAzZjAwZGJiYSAzZWZmOGEyZA0Kd2FybmluZzogY2FuJ3Qgb3BlbiBib290 ZXMvZXhwaXJlOnINCndhcm5pbmc6IGNhbid0IG9wZW4gcm1pbm5pY2gvZXhw aXJlOnINCndhcm5pbmc6IGNhbid0IG9wZW4gwoBcwoDCgMKAKcKAzZ3CgG0F WMKAaCXCgEvCgD7CgDlGwoBYwoDCgMKAwoDUnsKAJMKAwoDCgN+2woDCgMKA dj8fwoDCgCfCgMKABiw/RCUrwoDCgMKANcKAf3jCgMKAeXlrNSUyaVIvZXhw aXJlOnINCndhcm5pbmc6IGNhbid0IG9wZW4gwoBcwoDCgMKAKcKAzZ3CgG0F WMKAaCXCgEvCgD7CgDlGwoBYwoDCgMKAwoDUnsKAJMKAwoDCgN+2woDCgMKA dj8fwoDCgCfCgMKABiw/RCUrwoDCgMKAwoDCgMKAKT7CgCLCgA1hwoDCgBc+ L2V4cGlyZTpyDQp3YXJuaW5nOiBjYW4ndCBvcGVuIMKAdjQvZXhwaXJlOnIN Cndhcm5pbmc6IGNhbid0IG9wZW4gwoBcwoDCgMKAKcKAzZ3CgG0FWMKAaCXC gEvCgD7CgDlGwoBYwoDCgMKAwoDUnsKAJMKAwoDCgN+2woDCgMKAdj8fwoDC gCfCgMKABiw/RCUrwoDCgMKAwoAawoDCgFrCgMKA2osHUMKAMy9leHBpcmU6 cg0Kd2FybmluZzogY2FuJ3Qgb3BlbiDCgFzCgMKAwoApwoDNncKAbQVYwoBo JcKAS8KAPsKAOUbCgFjCgMKAwoDCgNSewoAkwoDCgMKA37bCgMKAwoB2Px/C gMKAJ8KAwoAGLD9EJSvCgMKAwoDCgBobdsKAZsKAwoDCgH7CgMKAL2V4cGly ZTpyDQo= ---1618459641-453697102-1057036465=:14298-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 14:28:23 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 14:28:23 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20675 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 14:28:22 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20671 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 14:28:22 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 14:28:22 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C93DB19AF7; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 01:28:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 27D7A19AF4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 01:26:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA10474 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 01:26:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h615Ql711262 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 01:26:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307010526.h615Ql711262@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] strange things in /sys/log/auth In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 30 Jun 2003 23:14:25 MDT." From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 01:26:47 -0400 > there's nothing else wrong with authentication -- it works fine for all > users, as far as I can see... I've seen this before. It looks like the key that keyfs is using (presumably taken from nvram) doesn't match the key that was used when initially creating /adm/keys. Odds are good you added all your users after the initial corruption due to the key mismatch, though, which is why authentication still works correctly. If you have a small number of users, I'd suggest blowing away the current keys file and recreating it using the password that's in nvram, and then reassigning passwords. If that's too much of a hassle, then you could cd into /mnt/keys and just remove all the corrupt entries, but I'm not sure if you wouldn't run into other problems later on down the road. Or, I could be completely wrong. However, the last time I saw behavior like what you're describing, it was due to a key mismatch. Luckily, since I had just set up the auth server and there was no one in it, it was easy for me to just recreate it. - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 14:32:18 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 14:32:18 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20890 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 14:32:18 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20886 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 14:32:18 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 14:32:18 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AAA6519AFC; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 01:32:06 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from collyer.net (adsl-63-192-14-226.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.192.14.226]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5B75D19AE7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 01:31:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <73ee3bb6c2df6250b7040e450321a8e9@collyer.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] strange things in /sys/log/auth From: Geoff Collyer From: geoff@collyer.net In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 22:31:29 -0700 What Dan said. It looks like what I saw when I gave my cpu server (and thus its keyfs) the wrong key. What does "ls -l /mnt/keys" on your cpu's console print? It should be something like this: cpu% ls /mnt/keys /mnt/keys/bootes /mnt/keys/claudia /mnt/keys/cross /mnt/keys/dhog /mnt/keys/geoff /mnt/keys/martha /mnt/keys/plus /mnt/keys/upas If instead it looks like: /mnt/keys/€9F€X€€€€Ԟ€$€€ /mnt/keys/+€€€€v€fĂ‚ Then keyfs has the wrong key in nvram. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 14:41:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 14:41:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21439 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 14:41:19 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21435 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 14:41:18 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 14:41:18 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 69E8819992; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 01:41:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0BDDB199DD for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 01:40:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h615eKeH014785 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 23:40:20 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h615eK2V014781 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 23:40:20 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] strange things in /sys/log/auth In-Reply-To: <73ee3bb6c2df6250b7040e450321a8e9@collyer.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 23:40:20 -0600 (MDT) well, it only has two users -- bootes and me, nobody else that I've added appears there... it must be said that the events i reported do not appear in the logs from the very beginning. first it was a complaint about bootes' expire, then another user appeared there, and then i got the corrupted strings... the fact that the keys were just moved from a kfs server with all the other data from the disk probably wouldn't have helped. i'll follow dan's suggestion and reset everything once i can sit behind the console... andrey ps: /mnt/keys of a cpu server: kn9% ls -l /mnt/keys d-r-xr-xr-x M 117 bootes sys 0 Jun 3 12:38 /mnt/keys/bootes d-r-xr-xr-x M 117 bootes sys 0 Jun 24 09:13 /mnt/keys/andrey plan9% On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Geoff Collyer wrote: > What Dan said. > > It looks like what I saw when I gave my cpu server (and thus its > keyfs) the wrong key. What does "ls -l /mnt/keys" on your cpu's > console print? It should be something like this: > > cpu% ls /mnt/keys > /mnt/keys/bootes > /mnt/keys/claudia > /mnt/keys/cross > /mnt/keys/dhog > /mnt/keys/geoff > /mnt/keys/martha > /mnt/keys/plus > /mnt/keys/upas > > If instead it looks like: > > /mnt/keys/€9F€X€€€€Ԟ€$€€ > /mnt/keys/+€€€€v€fĂ‚ > > Then keyfs has the wrong key in nvram. > From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 14:51:23 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 14:51:23 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 22018 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 14:51:22 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 22014 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 14:51:22 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 14:51:22 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0DEA919B06; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 01:51:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AE97919B04 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 01:49:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h615nDeH014806 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 23:49:13 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h615nDuW014802 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 23:49:13 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] strange things in /sys/log/auth In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 23:49:13 -0600 (MDT) changed bootes' password using 'passwd' and didn't reboot, now nobody can login, including bootes him(her?)self :) this must mean something... andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 14:53:20 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 14:53:20 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 22130 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 14:53:20 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 22123 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 14:53:13 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 14:53:13 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AAF5C19B0E; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 01:53:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from collyer.net (adsl-63-192-14-226.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.192.14.226]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DD2F8199DD for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 01:52:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19dd2f4ec1a603144f39a37b9fb86854@collyer.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] strange things in /sys/log/auth From: Geoff Collyer From: geoff@collyer.net In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 22:52:15 -0700 Curious, my files in /mnt/keys are owned by auth and auth, not bootes and sys. Your permissions are also stricter than mine. Are you running the latest keyfs? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 15:10:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 15:10:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 23284 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 15:10:16 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 23280 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 15:10:15 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 15:10:15 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 823E519B12; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 02:10:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A431F19B11 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 02:09:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h61693eH014854 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 00:09:03 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h61693rE014850 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 00:09:03 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] strange things in /sys/log/auth In-Reply-To: <19dd2f4ec1a603144f39a37b9fb86854@collyer.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 00:09:03 -0600 (MDT) diff (cmp) doesn't give any difference between keyfs on my fossil system and sources (i do updates daily, sometimes more so :).. neither the source nor the binary differ... the machine is in a private network, so I could explain you my entire auth configuration. what exactly would be most helpful? andrey ps: i just observed that /mnt/keys is an exact duplicate of the one that is on the kfs server (i just did mkfs < /n/kfs | mkext > /n/fossil). the logs on the kfs server show complaints about bootes' 'expire' but none of the garbage that i posted couple of messages ago... pps: if you don't see anything obvious i suggest we just wait until i get a chance to reset the auth info on wednesday (tomorrow is canada day, so we drink beer... i think... we always drink beer around here :) there is a big chance i screwed something up while converting the kfs into a fossil, i was just hoping that it'll all work, and so far it has, apart from these silly log messages :) On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Geoff Collyer wrote: > Curious, my files in /mnt/keys are owned by auth and auth, not bootes > and sys. Your permissions are also stricter than mine. Are you > running the latest keyfs? > From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 15:38:21 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 15:38:21 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 25175 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 15:38:20 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 25171 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 15:38:19 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 15:38:19 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E9C83199DD; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 02:38:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A639F19B13 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 02:37:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2379be97243831ab61196ac2b0fa95e6@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] strange things in /sys/log/auth From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: <19dd2f4ec1a603144f39a37b9fb86854@collyer.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 15:37:22 +0900 > Curious, my files in /mnt/keys are owned by auth and auth, not bootes > and sys. By the way, I'm wordering where my 'auth' user and group names come from. I have no auth entry in our /adm/users files. Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 15:47:21 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 15:47:21 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 25584 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 15:47:20 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 25580 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 15:47:20 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 15:47:20 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 98EAD19B19; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 02:47:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from collyer.net (adsl-63-192-14-226.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.192.14.226]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1C98319B15 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 02:46:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0ccb08d7173deb05337cb2c79675d28d@collyer.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] strange things in /sys/log/auth From: Geoff Collyer From: geoff@collyer.net In-Reply-To: <2379be97243831ab61196ac2b0fa95e6@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-rkqppjexcswxjxicreraehhthq" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 23:46:12 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-rkqppjexcswxjxicreraehhthq Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Each file server has its own set of users. Unfortunately, most of them don't read and don't publish a corresponding "users" file. --upas-rkqppjexcswxjxicreraehhthq Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from collyer.net ([10.9.0.3]) by collyer.net; Mon Jun 30 23:38:12 PDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by collyer.net; Mon Jun 30 23:38:11 PDT 2003 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A69BF19B13; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 02:38:05 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A639F19B13 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 02:37:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2379be97243831ab61196ac2b0fa95e6@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] strange things in /sys/log/auth From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: <19dd2f4ec1a603144f39a37b9fb86854@collyer.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 15:37:22 +0900 > Curious, my files in /mnt/keys are owned by auth and auth, not bootes > and sys. By the way, I'm wordering where my 'auth' user and group names come from. I have no auth entry in our /adm/users files. Kenji --upas-rkqppjexcswxjxicreraehhthq-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 18:37:23 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 18:37:23 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 1277 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 18:37:22 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 1273 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 18:37:22 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 18:37:22 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 89D7919B1D; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 05:37:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from juice.thebigchoice.com (pc1-nott2-3-cust18.nott.cable.ntl.com [80.4.204.18]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id C54FD19B16 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 05:36:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1334 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 09:36:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO proweb.co.uk) (192.168.1.100) by juice.thebigchoice.com with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 09:36:37 -0000 Message-ID: <3F015625.7000304@proweb.co.uk> From: matt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] dennis quote? References: <200306191950.h5JJol706204@augusta.math.psu.edu> <020001c3369c$eaa0a320$e3944251@insultant.net> <3F004596.2030407@proweb.co.uk> <010f01c33f2c$43f2c380$d2944251@insultant.net> In-Reply-To: <010f01c33f2c$43f2c380$d2944251@insultant.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 10:36:37 +0100 boyd, rounin wrote: >>i can't remember whether i read it or i heard him say it. >> Dennis, can you say it again please? Feel free to add a few more while you're at it 8) From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 18:52:21 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 18:52:21 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 1717 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 18:52:20 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 1713 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 18:52:20 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 18:52:20 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6941519B27; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 05:52:09 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from juice.thebigchoice.com (pc1-nott2-3-cust18.nott.cable.ntl.com [80.4.204.18]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 2C8EC19B16 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 05:51:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3777 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 09:51:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO proweb.co.uk) (192.168.1.100) by juice.thebigchoice.com with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 09:51:16 -0000 Message-ID: <3F015994.2090001@proweb.co.uk> From: matt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] book chapters References: <3F006BC5.4070309@nas.com> In-Reply-To: <3F006BC5.4070309@nas.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 10:51:16 +0100 > > Where I have problems with matt's solution breaking down is when you > have worker_5 creating random sets of files in a traditional > hierarchy. Any subfolders he/she/it creates lose the rw permissions > for the bosses group, and even with the sticky bit set for the group > you lose those permissions the next level deep. One of the problems we have is that I (in group wheel or as root) make some file that someone else needs to be able to edit but often I forget all about the permissions and it ends up "-rw-r--r-- matt wheel" leaving the editors unable to edit it. And as they used to phone me at the ungodly hours when I'm likely to be in bed (i.e. pre 10am) I needed a solution here's my inelegant solution from FreeBSD that does kind of the opposite which is an interesting synergie because it uses wait_on which is a program that gives access to the kqueue mentioned in another thread. I don't know how big the queue can get but I have well over 500 files in it across four directory trees #!/usr/local/bin/rc while () { chown -R www:www /www/document_root chmod -R g+w /www/document_root wait_on `{find /www/document_root} sleep 5 } wait_on will return an index to which file has been changed/created for more fine grained control From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 20:28:20 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 20:28:20 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 4551 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 20:28:19 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 4547 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 20:28:19 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 20:28:19 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7D76419B10; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 07:28:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from ar.aichi-u.ac.jp (ar.aichi-u.ac.jp [202.250.160.40]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9215119AFA for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 07:27:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ar.aichi-u.ac.jp ([61.211.130.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 20:27:33 JST 2003 Subject: Re: [9fans] book chapters Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Kenji Arisawa To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <47fa0c881681f748cb453d9e938a5622@plan9.bell-labs.com> Message-Id: <01D63448-ABB7-11D7-A48F-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 20:27:32 +0900 Hello, >You already have that. Make the directory only writable by the >students. They can create files in it but can't remove them. Thanks. I have examined and found that is exactly what I wanted. It seems the meaning of x bit for directory has been changed. Man page "chmod" is old. Kenji Arisawa From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 20:33:21 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 20:33:21 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 4660 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 20:33:20 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 4656 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 20:33:20 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 20:33:20 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C33D019B28; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 07:33:06 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6251919AF4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 07:32:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] book chapters In-Reply-To: <01D63448-ABB7-11D7-A48F-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-uridnnzclmidgfzfjaoqolvblh" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 07:32:09 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-uridnnzclmidgfzfjaoqolvblh Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The x bit is still the same. It means you can walk the directory. However, with plan 9, to remove a file you must first walk to it. --upas-uridnnzclmidgfzfjaoqolvblh Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Tue Jul 1 07:28:19 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Tue Jul 1 07:28:16 EDT 2003 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2F48219B08; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 07:28:06 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from ar.aichi-u.ac.jp (ar.aichi-u.ac.jp [202.250.160.40]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9215119AFA for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 07:27:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ar.aichi-u.ac.jp ([61.211.130.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 20:27:33 JST 2003 Subject: Re: [9fans] book chapters Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Kenji Arisawa To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <47fa0c881681f748cb453d9e938a5622@plan9.bell-labs.com> Message-Id: <01D63448-ABB7-11D7-A48F-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 20:27:32 +0900 Hello, >You already have that. Make the directory only writable by the >students. They can create files in it but can't remove them. Thanks. I have examined and found that is exactly what I wanted. It seems the meaning of x bit for directory has been changed. Man page "chmod" is old. Kenji Arisawa --upas-uridnnzclmidgfzfjaoqolvblh-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 1 20:46:20 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 1 20:46:20 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 4986 invoked by uid 1020); 1 Jul 2003 20:46:19 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 4981 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2003 20:46:19 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 20:46:19 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 444CE19B21; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 07:46:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3B09D19AE7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 07:45:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] strange things in /sys/log/auth In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-wiigenctzmyqmeakipbqdrrbui" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 07:45:38 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-wiigenctzmyqmeakipbqdrrbui Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It means you have to: 1) kill keyfs 2) run auth/convkeys on the keyfile 3) reboot the auth server (or just give the new key to factotum on the auth server) 4) if you use an nvram on the auth server to store the key, use auth/wrkey to rewrite it --upas-wiigenctzmyqmeakipbqdrrbui Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Tue Jul 1 01:51:19 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Tue Jul 1 01:51:17 EDT 2003 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9D1AB19B04; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 01:51:05 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AE97919B04 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 01:49:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h615nDeH014806 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 23:49:13 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h615nDuW014802 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 23:49:13 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] strange things in /sys/log/auth In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 23:49:13 -0600 (MDT) changed bootes' password using 'passwd' and didn't reboot, now nobody can login, including bootes him(her?)self :) this must mean something... andrey --upas-wiigenctzmyqmeakipbqdrrbui-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 2 02:49:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 2 02:49:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12647 invoked by uid 1020); 2 Jul 2003 02:49:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12643 invoked from network); 2 Jul 2003 02:49:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 2 Jul 2003 02:49:25 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4C3CB19B36; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 13:49:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from web40412.mail.yahoo.com (web40412.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.78.109]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 9D0F819B30 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 13:48:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20030701174841.33906.qmail@web40412.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.210.205.126] by web40412.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Jul 2003 10:48:41 PDT From: "A. Baker" To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [9fans] book chapters Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 10:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Dennis, CSTR #163, M. Douglas McIlroy and J. A. Reeds, The IX Multilevel Secure Operating System, Bell Labs, January 1992. It comes in several pieces: 163a, 163b, 163c, 163d, 163e, 163f, 163g, 163h, 163i. [An interesting experiment in adding Orange-book style security facilities to a research Unix system.]. All still list ps.gz? (Maybe I'm just not holding my tongue just right). Thanks for taking time to convert them, now I'll see if I can understand them. ;-) -----------------8<----------------- Per Baker's request, the Reeds and McIlroy papers on the IX system collected in CSTR 163 are available in PDF at http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/cstr.html Dennis ===== Boojum __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 2 06:48:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 2 06:48:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 16880 invoked by uid 1020); 2 Jul 2003 06:48:22 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 16876 invoked from network); 2 Jul 2003 06:48:22 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 2 Jul 2003 06:48:22 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 461C119B34; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 17:48:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-11.noos.net [212.198.2.82]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 161DC19A33 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 17:47:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 94061830 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jul 2003 21:46:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.82 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 1 Jul 2003 21:46:52 -0000 Message-ID: <00ce01c3401a$45a9f740$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 23:46:47 +0200 Sam asked me: > OK, I've been thinking about this a day now and I'm > not sure what you mean. There shouldn't be any partial > directory entries, right? in the 'old days' directories had a fixed size [2 byte inode number + 14 byte name]. so it was easy. you could cheat and statically allocate and we mainly did 'cos calling malloc was a big no-no, 'cos there was next to no memory and cpu was scarce. then came along BSD which gave us these lunatic long names and a namei() that took years to fix. so you used readdir() and a chunk of crap because just calling read was now _too hard_ -- in fact it was illegal. then we had NFS. and so you had to ask the server to send across some number of directory entries [getdents()] and this sat under readdir(). this was all very fine, but now you had a bunch of library functions and system calls and NFS protocol garbage and you couldn't use read() anymore. in fact _the only place_ the XDR encode/decode code existed for directory entries was _in the kernel_. that stuff was really 'fascinating' ... Brushes with death were described as "fascinating." To be "absolutely fascinated" meant scared witless. -- http://www.air-america.org/Articles/Doole.htm should you have had ultrix and wanted to write a user-mode NFS server you had to either get a protocol analyser, tcpdump, dick around, guess or get hold of the code. [i wrote an NFS version of ftpfs] there was never anything wrong with read(). the proliferation of crap, as a result of BSD long names, added an immense amount of useless baggage. should read() return partial directory entries you are in a world of pain because you have to maintain state so that you can pick up where you left off and try and glue the partials back together. so the solution is to just use read() and return whole directory entries; it simplifies things on both the client and server side. should read return 0, multiply the malloc()'d buffer by 2, realloc() and loop. it helps if you have some side information so that when the read() returns you have a clue of how much stuff is in the buffer, 'cos buffer overruns are not your friend. i suspect the extra size info is 'side information'. 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The more visually attractive one, done by Holzmann, is the one at http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/cstr.html while the original is at http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/cstr/index.html The latter is the one I updated, and the one that refers to the PDF version of the papers. I'll try to unify them (there might be other differences) and make sure the references from other pages are consistent. Sorry for the confusion. Dennis From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 2 10:57:04 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 2 10:57:04 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 25575 invoked by uid 1020); 2 Jul 2003 10:57:03 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 25563 invoked from network); 2 Jul 2003 10:57:00 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 2 Jul 2003 10:57:00 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 77A3519B35; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 21:52:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EF35A199C0; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 20:51:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-08.noos.net [212.198.2.77]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 23AC519A1D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 20:51:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1141308 invoked by uid 0); 2 Jul 2003 00:51:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.77 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 2 Jul 2003 00:51:48 -0000 Message-ID: <021601c34034$1ac4fba0$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] compiling a pcauth kernel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 02:51:42 +0200 now this is probably a silly question, but is there any reason i shouldn't be about to have a pcauth server with a DHCP served address on its ADSL interface? i want to build an internal network on the other side. just don't talk to me about RIPE nor my isp's interesting ideas about network building and the dns etc ... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 2 11:01:08 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 2 11:01:08 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 25776 invoked by uid 1020); 2 Jul 2003 11:01:08 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 25772 invoked from network); 2 Jul 2003 11:01:07 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 2 Jul 2003 11:01:07 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4E7A219B2E; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 21:56:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5FC9D19A14; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 20:24:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-12.noos.net [212.198.2.83]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F0A1919A03 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 20:24:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19102502 invoked by uid 0); 2 Jul 2003 00:24:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.83 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 2 Jul 2003 00:24:46 -0000 Message-ID: <018601c34030$53e17c00$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 02:24:40 +0200 Sam asked me: > OK, I've been thinking about this a day now and I'm > not sure what you mean. There shouldn't be any partial > directory entries, right? in the 'old days' directories had a fixed size [2 byte inode number + 14 byte name]. so it was easy. you could cheat and statically allocate and we mainly did 'cos calling malloc was a big no-no, 'cos there was next to no memory and cpu was scarce. then came along BSD which gave us these lunatic long names and a namei() that took years to fix. so you used readdir() and a chunk of crap because just calling read was now _too hard_ -- in fact it was illegal. then we had NFS. and so you had to ask the server to send across some number of directory entries [getdents()] and this sat under readdir(). this was all very fine, but now you had a bunch of library functions and system calls and NFS protocol garbage and you couldn't use read() anymore. in fact _the only place_ the XDR encode/decode code existed for directory entries was _in the kernel_. that stuff was really 'fascinating' ... Brushes with death were described as "fascinating." To be "absolutely fascinated" meant scared witless. -- http://www.air-america.org/Articles/Doole.htm should you have had ultrix and wanted to write a user-mode NFS server you had to either get a protocol analyser, tcpdump, dick around, guess or get hold of the code. [i wrote an NFS version of ftpfs] there was never anything wrong with read(). the proliferation of crap, as a result of BSD long names, added an immense amount of useless baggage. should read() return partial directory entries you are in a world of pain because you have to maintain state so that you can pick up where you left off and try and glue the partials back together. so the solution is to just use read() and return whole directory entries; it simplifies things on both the client and server side. should read return 0, multiply the malloc()'d buffer by 2, realloc() and loop. it helps if you have some side information so that when the read() returns you have a clue of how much stuff is in the buffer, 'cos buffer overruns are not your friend. i suspect the extra size info is 'side information'. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 02:23:52 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 02:23:52 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27233 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 02:23:51 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27229 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 02:23:51 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 02:23:51 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 055DF19A27; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 13:18:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from nautilus.escet.urjc.es (nautilus.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.207]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1A61F199D9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 10:44:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <303984eeda03942aa1107833aeac5f93@plan9.escet.urjc.es> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Fco.J.Ballesteros From: nemo@plan9.escet.urjc.es MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] resizing images w/o human intervention Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 16:43:50 +0200 Is there any program to resize images w/o human intervention? Something like... resize -r x0 y0 x1 y1 < img > resized thanks From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 02:28:06 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 02:28:06 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27276 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 02:28:06 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27272 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 02:28:06 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 02:28:06 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4204019A2D; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 13:23:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C8DDB199FD for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 00:40:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1969a63bfaccdfd2a3511734726de8c5@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] compiling a pcauth kernel From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: <021601c34034$1ac4fba0$d2944251@insultant.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 13:40:50 +0900 > now this is probably a silly question, but is there any reason i shouldn't > be about to have a pcauth server with a DHCP served address on its > ADSL interface? i want to build an internal network on the other side. Because none replies this. You mean, of course, only once at the first time to build Plan 9 system behind ADSL? âş Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 02:32:20 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 02:32:20 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27340 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 02:32:20 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27336 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 02:32:20 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 02:32:20 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A688C19A5E; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 13:28:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4B481199E5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 12:36:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h62GZweH017527 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 10:36:03 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h62GZvRm017523 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 10:35:58 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] strange things in /sys/log/auth In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 10:35:57 -0600 (MDT) i fixed the problem -- the /adm/keys file was fscked somehow. i was able to see directory entries for all users i've added in /mnt/keys, but after the directory listing there was garbage, the same thing Geoff sent a few messages back. when started keyfs was reporting 'bad status in key'. i ended up doing: % rm /adm/keys % con -l /srv/fscons main: create /active/adm/keys bootes bootes 660 % auth/changeuser bootes ... and then added all other users again. i've saved the old keys file, in case anyone is interested in playing with it to see what's wrong. i've changed all passwords :) i'm a little worried, though -- i was thinking that bootes can only change passwords on the console, but killing keyfs and restarting it again as bootes in a local namespace gives me write privileges to /mnt/keys (though i loose the ability to login to the machine, naturally :) is it advisable to lock the keyfs process the same way factotum's process is? put it in the kernel? disallow 'echo kill > /proc/xx/ctl'? inquiring minds want to know :) On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, David Presotto wrote: > It means you have to: > > 1) kill keyfs > 2) run auth/convkeys on the keyfile > 3) reboot the auth server (or just give the new key to factotum on the auth server) > 4) if you use an nvram on the auth server to store the key, use auth/wrkey > to rewrite it From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 02:55:12 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 02:55:12 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27482 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 02:55:01 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27478 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 02:55:01 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 02:55:01 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5D38819A28; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 13:50:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E4CDA19A28 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 13:18:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28861 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 13:18:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h62HIT719353 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 13:18:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307021718.h62HIT719353@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] resizing images w/o human intervention In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 02 Jul 2003 16:43:50 +0200." <303984eeda03942aa1107833aeac5f93@plan9.escet.urjc.es> From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 13:18:28 -0400 Isn't that what resample does? - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 03:06:51 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 03:06:51 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27579 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 03:06:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27575 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 03:06:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 03:06:35 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 336AC19A65; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 14:02:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from rapido.vitanuova.com (unknown [62.254.170.97]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 70CAC19A07 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 13:54:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] resizing images w/o human intervention From: rog@vitanuova.com In-Reply-To: <303984eeda03942aa1107833aeac5f93@plan9.escet.urjc.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 18:57:26 +0100 > Is there any program to resize images w/o human intervention? > Something like... > > resize -r x0 y0 x1 y1 < img > resized something like resample(1)? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 04:18:24 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 04:18:24 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 28506 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 04:18:23 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 28502 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 04:18:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 04:18:23 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E711019A40; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 15:17:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from edoras.nas.com (edoras.nas.com [206.63.100.8]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CDF3719A2A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 14:50:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nas.com (unknown [164.116.190.46]) by edoras.nas.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7F33EBF33 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 11:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F032956.9080405@nas.com> From: Jack Johnson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030416 Thunderbird/0.1a X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: <00ce01c3401a$45a9f740$d2944251@insultant.net> In-Reply-To: <00ce01c3401a$45a9f740$d2944251@insultant.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] Python? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 11:49:58 -0700 Anyone know what the status of Python is on Plan 9? I'm wondering if it's up to handling something like Zope. I've also been checking out wxWindows/wxPython a little and started wondering what a wxWindows port to rio would look like ( http://www.wxwindows.org/ ). -Jack From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 04:18:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 04:18:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 28513 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 04:18:39 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 28509 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 04:18:39 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 04:18:39 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F25F819A78; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 15:18:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from email.com (cpe.atm2-0-1061164.0x503e9092.abnxx2.customer.tele.dk [80.62.144.146]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id EAA4D19B3E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 06:45:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <886801c34088$45e7b990$68fd6329@cqtkktw> From: "Dona Glaspie" To: "Client " <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Subject: [9fans] From Peter: PLE@SE F0RWARD THIS T0 THE SENI0RS IN Y0UR FAMILY Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: "Dona Glaspie" List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 18:54:12 +0800 QXR0ZW50aW9uISANCg0KRm9yZWlnbiBwaEBybWFjeSByZWZlcnJAbCBzZXJ2 aWNlIA0KVXAgdG8gNjAlIGNoZUBwZXIgdGhAbiBwaEBybWFjeSBvdXRsZXRz IGluIHRoZSBVLlMuIA0KRnVsbHkgbGljZW5zZWQgYW5kIG9wZXJhdGVkIGJ5 IENhbmFkaWFuIHBoQHJtYWNpc3RzLiANCmh0dHA6Ly93d3cubG93Y29zY2Fu YWRhcnguY29tDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQpJIHdAbnQgdG8gYmUgUiBF IE0gMCBWIEUgRCBmcm9tIHlvdXIgbDFzdDogDQpodHRwOi8vd3d3Lmxvd2Nv c2NhbmFkYXJ4LmNvbS9jZ2kvb2ZmX2xpc3QucGwgDQoNCg0KDQpGYXFubGZo RWRzYm5jIA0KVWdyb29ocG53b01tdm95dms= From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 04:18:49 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 04:18:49 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 28520 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 04:18:48 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 28516 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 04:18:48 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 04:18:48 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1F83319A7D; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 15:18:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from wintermute.cse.psu.edu (wintermute.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.5]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 17D4819B37 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 22:03:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-06.noos.net [212.198.2.75]) by wintermute.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server (Backup MX)) with ESMTP id B03C173CE2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 21:10:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1792047 invoked by uid 0); 2 Jul 2003 01:10:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.75 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 2 Jul 2003 01:10:21 -0000 Message-ID: <02a601c34036$b24e6680$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] compiling a pcauth kernel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 03:10:15 +0200 now this is probably a silly question, but is there any reason i shouldn't be able to have a pcauth server with a DHCP served address on its ADSL interface? i want to build an internal network on the other side. just don't talk to me about RIPE nor my isp's interesting ideas about network building and the dns etc ... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 04:21:15 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 04:21:15 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 28557 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 04:21:15 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 28553 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 04:21:15 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 04:21:15 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5552119A8B; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 15:21:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1A27219A66 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 09:40:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h62DV5np020274 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 15:31:06 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h62DUvo6020273 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 15:30:57 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans mailing list <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Message-ID: <20030702153053.B16824@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans mailing list <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us Organization: Proxima Research & Development Subject: [9fans] Sources Snapshot Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 15:30:54 +0200 I get an empty document if I attempt to download the snapshot ISO image. Is it sources or my browser? Wget returns the rather befuddling: Proxy request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found End of file while parsing headers. ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 04:22:20 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 04:22:20 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 28586 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 04:22:20 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 28582 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 04:22:20 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 04:22:20 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9D59D19AA1; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 15:22:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from larch (unknown [195.173.15.12]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 623DB19A28 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 09:35:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <903fdbc9f19ff8915c97bd27ff6b9486@snellwilcox.com> From: steve.simon@snellwilcox.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] scanners twain etc ? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 14:35:47 +0100 Hi, There was some talk a while back about connecting scsi scanners and the horrors of twain. Anyone looked it this recently - I bought a cheap Nikon coolscan. -Steve From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 04:36:15 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 04:36:15 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 28720 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 04:36:14 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 28716 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 04:36:14 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 04:36:14 +0900 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6D6F219AA4; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 15:36:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8CC04199DC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 15:35:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1989284e4ccaf6db82a2397d4186c87b@plan9.bell-labs.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] scanners twain etc ? From: Sape Mullender In-Reply-To: <903fdbc9f19ff8915c97bd27ff6b9486@snellwilcox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 15:35:07 -0400 > There was some talk a while back about connecting scsi scanners > and the horrors of twain. > > Anyone looked it this recently - I bought a cheap Nikon coolscan. I just downloaded a USB snoopy program for Windows (look for snoopypro in google), so I may just look into writing some Plan 9 USB code for scanners. But first, I'll be on vacation for a while. Sape From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 09:36:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 09:36:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 1622 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 09:36:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 1618 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 09:36:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 09:36:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1FE3419A15; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 20:36:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1A51819A2A; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 20:36:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7224A19A6C; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 20:35:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-01.noos.net [212.198.2.70]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 91ED119A15 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 20:35:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32576129 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jul 2003 00:35:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.70 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 3 Jul 2003 00:35:05 -0000 Message-ID: <004a01c340fa$ed956b20$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <00ce01c3401a$45a9f740$d2944251@insultant.net> <3F032956.9080405@nas.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] Python? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 02:34:56 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Anyone know what the status of Python is on Plan 9? I'm wondering if > it's up to handling something like Zope. the zope dopes, therein lies a story ... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 13:26:43 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 13:26:43 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12190 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 13:26:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12185 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 13:26:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 13:26:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3653D19A6D; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 00:26:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7B70519A93; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 00:26:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 03BC719A92; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 00:25:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp805.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp805.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.184]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 451BB19A6D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 00:25:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from adsl-67-38-19-191.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (HELO ameritech.net) (dbailey27@ameritech.net@67.38.19.191 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 04:25:23 -0000 Message-ID: <3F03BE75.8090905@ameritech.net> From: northern snowfall User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020518 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] PowerPC Booting Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 00:26:13 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hey all, How is everyone booting Plan9 on their Mac? I'm trying to boot off a floppy. Of course, 9mtx wont' be recognized since it's not XCOFF. Any suggestions? Don http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 13:36:23 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 13:36:23 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12593 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 13:36:22 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12589 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 13:36:22 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 13:36:22 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B9B6619AAF; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 00:36:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 67D8119A9D; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 00:36:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C582119A94; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 00:35:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from collyer.net (adsl-63-192-14-226.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.192.14.226]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D738F19A8C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 00:35:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <8d1d79d373312526d6b556f424b96121@collyer.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] PowerPC Booting From: Geoff Collyer From: geoff@collyer.net In-Reply-To: <3F03BE75.8090905@ameritech.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 21:35:11 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I don't believe anybody has Plan 9 running on the Mac. See the archives for what it would take to make it run. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 13:47:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 13:47:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13135 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 13:47:23 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13131 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 13:47:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 13:47:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7568119ABA; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 00:47:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2B22919AA3; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 00:47:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A1F1819AA3; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 00:46:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp803.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp803.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.182]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id ADF8919A93 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 00:46:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from adsl-67-38-19-191.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (HELO ameritech.net) (dbailey27@ameritech.net@67.38.19.191 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 04:46:31 -0000 Message-ID: <3F03C368.4080308@ameritech.net> From: northern snowfall User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020518 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] PowerPC Booting References: <8d1d79d373312526d6b556f424b96121@collyer.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 00:47:20 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA, X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > >I don't believe anybody has Plan 9 running on the Mac. >See the archives for what it would take to make it run. > Are there any docs on how Open Firmware booting works? All I can find are binaries and techniques that use XCOFF on floppy disks. The ether card in my Old World isn't bootable as there is no OF-ROM in it. I don't want to install plan9 on the disk, I'd like to save the MacOS9. Thus, writing a boot loader is probably in my best interest. Any URLs/etc are appreciated. Don http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 13:51:53 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 13:51:53 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13326 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 13:51:53 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13306 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 13:51:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 13:51:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id AD2BE19AA8; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 00:51:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A077919AA7; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 00:51:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4529519AA8; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 00:50:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from collyer.net (adsl-63-192-14-226.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.192.14.226]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C77B919AA7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 00:50:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <29e54826341c623155a116461918e272@collyer.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] PowerPC Booting From: Geoff Collyer From: geoff@collyer.net In-Reply-To: <3F03C368.4080308@ameritech.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-ertyponbpnkmyogswahviwnxei" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 21:50:46 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-ertyponbpnkmyogswahviwnxei Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You're looking at a non-trivial bit of work. For one thing, the Apple Ethernet interfaces are unique to Apple, so we have no drivers for them (currently anyway). But 9mtx isn't going to work if you get it loaded for a lot of other reasons; see the archives. --upas-ertyponbpnkmyogswahviwnxei Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from collyer.net ([10.9.0.3]) by collyer.net; Wed Jul 2 21:47:15 PDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by collyer.net; Wed Jul 2 21:47:15 PDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EA8BB19AAC; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 00:47:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6353819A96; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 00:47:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A1F1819AA3; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 00:46:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp803.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp803.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.182]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id ADF8919A93 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 00:46:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from adsl-67-38-19-191.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (HELO ameritech.net) (dbailey27@ameritech.net@67.38.19.191 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 04:46:31 -0000 Message-ID: <3F03C368.4080308@ameritech.net> From: northern snowfall User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020518 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] PowerPC Booting References: <8d1d79d373312526d6b556f424b96121@collyer.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 00:47:20 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA, X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > >I don't believe anybody has Plan 9 running on the Mac. >See the archives for what it would take to make it run. > Are there any docs on how Open Firmware booting works? All I can find are binaries and techniques that use XCOFF on floppy disks. The ether card in my Old World isn't bootable as there is no OF-ROM in it. I don't want to install plan9 on the disk, I'd like to save the MacOS9. Thus, writing a boot loader is probably in my best interest. Any URLs/etc are appreciated. Don http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_ --upas-ertyponbpnkmyogswahviwnxei-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 13:59:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 13:59:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13699 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 13:59:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13695 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 13:59:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 13:59:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id AF18019AC1; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 00:59:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2809919AA7; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 00:59:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A35E319AAC; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 00:58:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp802.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp802.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.181]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id A969B19A93 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 00:58:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from adsl-67-38-19-191.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (HELO ameritech.net) (dbailey27@ameritech.net@67.38.19.191 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 04:58:37 -0000 Message-ID: <3F03C63E.3060000@ameritech.net> From: northern snowfall User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020518 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] PowerPC Booting References: <29e54826341c623155a116461918e272@collyer.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 00:59:26 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA, X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > >You're looking at a non-trivial bit of work. For one thing, the Apple >Ethernet interfaces are unique to Apple, so we have no drivers for >them (currently anyway). But 9mtx isn't going to work if you get it >loaded for a lot of other reasons; see the archives. > I don't care if it's non-trivial. I want plan9 on this mac and I will get it on this mac. The ether is just a tulip. The driver is already in the mtx tree. There will be issues with bandit, sure, but I want to learn this architecture: case closed. So, if anyone out there *has any docs/tips/pointers* for generating boot files to manage floppy boots, let me know. Don http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 14:33:27 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 14:33:27 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15225 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 14:33:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15221 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 14:33:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 14:33:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2CF0619ACA; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 01:33:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D5F0019AAB; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 01:33:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CF45219AB5; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 01:32:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mobydick.int.entrisphere.com (unknown [63.203.52.228]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 180EA19AA9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 01:32:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from entrisphere.com ([192.168.168.142]) by mobydick.int.entrisphere.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 2 Jul 2003 22:32:39 -0700 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] PowerPC Booting In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 03 Jul 2003 00:59:26 CDT." <3F03C63E.3060000@ameritech.net> From: Tad Hunt Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jul 2003 05:32:39.0304 (UTC) FILETIME=[846F9880:01C34124] Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 22:32:39 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message <3F03C63E.3060000@ameritech.net>, you said: ;So, if anyone out there *has any docs/tips/pointers* for generating ;boot files to manage floppy boots, let me know. Check out the NetBSD project. I know they run on power mac's www.netbsd.org -Tad From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 15:33:20 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 15:33:20 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 17698 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 15:33:19 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 17693 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 15:33:19 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 15:33:19 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 820CE19ADB; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 02:33:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 25DDF19AD7; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 02:33:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E13E319AC7; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 02:32:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from henry.sockfarm.net (adsl-98-118.bway.net [216.220.98.118]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3466619A93 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 02:32:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1c7f90f26f6c602f84f5dd5807293956@sockfarm.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] PowerPC Booting From: "John Packer" From: john@sockfarm.net In-Reply-To: <3F03C368.4080308@ameritech.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 02:15:59 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) You've probably seen these, but try: http://playground.sun.com/1275/bindings/ppc/release/ppc-2_0.html http://playground.sun.com/1275/home.html http://www.openfirmware.org as well as the nedbsd source. Also, you might have a look at the 2ed Plan9 sparc sources. The sparc PROM is similiar to what you will find on a Mac. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 16:37:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 16:37:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20901 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 16:37:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20896 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 16:37:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 16:37:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7B39519AE6; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 03:37:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 33F4419ADD; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 03:37:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2325119AE0; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 03:36:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nautilus.escet.urjc.es (nautilus.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.207]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EB39519AD7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 03:36:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0afe5e9beddcb1a9768a18133d5a8fd0@plan9.escet.urjc.es> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] resizing images w/o human intervention From: Fco.J.Ballesteros From: nemo@plan9.escet.urjc.es In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-npatqcrtktkxjvgxrgzhdsntmi" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:36:54 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-npatqcrtktkxjvgxrgzhdsntmi Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yep. Thanks much. I tried lookman, but didnt tell me about resample. --upas-npatqcrtktkxjvgxrgzhdsntmi Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by aquamar; Wed Jul 2 20:06:37 MDT 2003 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 336AC19A65; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 14:02:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from rapido.vitanuova.com (unknown [62.254.170.97]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 70CAC19A07 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 13:54:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] resizing images w/o human intervention From: rog@vitanuova.com In-Reply-To: <303984eeda03942aa1107833aeac5f93@plan9.escet.urjc.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 18:57:26 +0100 > Is there any program to resize images w/o human intervention? > Something like... > > resize -r x0 y0 x1 y1 < img > resized something like resample(1)? --upas-npatqcrtktkxjvgxrgzhdsntmi-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 16:43:24 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 16:43:24 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21118 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 16:43:23 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21114 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 16:43:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 16:43:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D890419AF6; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 03:43:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C500419AF0; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 03:43:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0729B19AE9; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 03:42:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from collyer.net (adsl-63-192-14-226.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.192.14.226]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1635B19AD7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 03:42:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5b8375a5d4d4c4c5112131e76920da25@collyer.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] resizing images w/o human intervention From: Geoff Collyer From: geoff@collyer.net In-Reply-To: <0afe5e9beddcb1a9768a18133d5a8fd0@plan9.escet.urjc.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 00:42:23 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Works for me: cpu% lookman resample man 1 resample # resample(1) You probably need to (re)generate your manual page indices, possibly regularly from cron. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 18:47:27 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 18:47:27 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 25650 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 18:47:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 25645 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 18:47:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 18:47:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D687D19AFD; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:47:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F186E19AE2; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:47:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 577BA19AE2; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:46:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 87A1619A85 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:46:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19Y0V7-0001RL-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 03 Jul 2003 10:35:37 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: "Douglas A. Gwyn" Message-ID: <3EFD9950.7030107@null.net> Organization: University of Bath Computing Services, UK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] comp.lang.limbo Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:35:33 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Whoever "owns" comp.lang.limbo, please take steps to remove it. It has been taken over by eastern Europeans for some nefarious purpose. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 18:47:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 18:47:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 25658 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 18:47:39 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 25654 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 18:47:39 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 18:47:39 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C269B19B02; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:47:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7639119AFF; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:47:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7446919AF2; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:46:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7C6C119A85 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:46:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19Y0WA-0001Tj-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 03 Jul 2003 10:36:42 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Rob Ristroph Message-ID: <87adc2jdaw.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> Organization: Road Runner - Texas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [9fans] errors compiling an auth kernel Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:36:11 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I am trying to compile a pcauth kernel. I have been getting errors that I think are related to the bootdir section. I read another post by someone who seemed to be having the same problem, but the suggestions in that thread didn't help: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=Pine.SOL.4.31.0302190126370.15480-100000%40fury.csh.rit.edu&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26q%3Dbootpcauth.c%26sa%3DN%26tab%3Dwg I tried the bootdir sections that people listed in that thread, and combinations of them. Using Russ Cox's suggestion of: bootdir bootpcauth.out boot /386/bin/ip/ipconfig factotum.hack factotum /386/bin/disk/kfs I get the following messages: rc ../port/mkdevc pcauth > pcauth.c .../boot/mkboot pcauth > bootpcauth.c 8c -FVw bootpcauth.c 8l -o bootpcauth.out bootpcauth.8 ../boot/libboot.a8 print.8 bootpcauth.c:8 name not declared: configbootpcauth bootpcauth.c:8 name not declared: connectbootpcauth bootpcauth.c:9 initialization of incompatible pointers: method IND CHAR and INC FUNC(INT, IND IND CHAR) VOID bootpcauth.c:9 name not declared: config bootpcauth.c:9 name not declared: bin bootpcauth.c:9 name not declared: ip bootpcauth.c:9 name not declared: ipconfig bootpcauth.c:9 name not declared: connect bootpcauth.c:9 name not declared: bin bootpcauth.c:9 name not declared: ip bootpcauth.c:9 name not declared: ipconfig too many errors mk: ../boot/mkboot pcauth > ... : exit status=rc 570: 8c 582: error I looked at the mkboot script and I didn't understand what it was supposed to do. I also looked at the bootdir section of the wiki. My end goal is to make a standalone machine that can act as an authserver in addition to being a standalone cpu server (i.e., the computer I actually type commands at, and run my processes on). I am trying to follow the steps in the "Configuring a Standalone CPU Server" section of the wiki. Any suggestions of what I should try next would be greatly appreciated. --Rob From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 18:47:48 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 18:47:48 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 25667 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 18:47:48 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 25663 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 18:47:48 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 18:47:48 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E8E8919B16; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:47:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5852819B0A; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:47:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 34B3B19ADD; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:46:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 60C3C19AF1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:46:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19Y0dF-0001ar-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 03 Jul 2003 10:44:01 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: "Douglas A. Gwyn" Message-ID: <3F00600D.4060005@null.net> Organization: University of Bath Computing Services, UK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20030630141857.15163.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu>, Subject: Re: [9fans] 'find' Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:42:20 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) rog@vitanuova.com wrote: > and i guess awk printf should be given a %q option > and maybe echo should have a -q option too > and du should print its output quoted > and pwd should too > and maybe cp should have an option ... Does this suggest why quoting (prompted by a limitation at the "shell" level) was the wrong idea? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 18:47:56 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 18:47:56 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 25674 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 18:47:56 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 25670 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 18:47:56 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 18:47:56 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D4F0619B1E; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:47:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5439719B0A; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:47:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1A22C19AF1; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:46:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4689A19A85 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:46:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19Y0dG-0001ax-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 03 Jul 2003 10:44:02 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Clint Olsen Message-ID: Organization: AT&T Broadband References: <200306191950.h5JJol706204@augusta.math.psu.edu>, <3F004596.2030407@proweb.co.uk> Subject: Re: [9fans] dennis quote? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:42:32 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article <3F004596.2030407@proweb.co.uk>, matt wrote: > boyd, rounin wrote: > >>what did dennis say once? >> >> unix retarded o/s development by 10 years >> >> linux retarded o/s development by 20 years >> > > although said does anyone have a decent link, I'm /. trolling and could > use the ammunition 8) It sort of begs the question: What did Windows do? :) -Clint From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 18:48:06 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 18:48:06 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 25692 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 18:48:06 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 25688 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 18:48:05 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 18:48:05 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5DDDC19B03; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:47:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B100419AF5; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:47:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3661D19ADD; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:46:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2E86119A85 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:46:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19Y0dF-0001al-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 03 Jul 2003 10:44:01 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Wesley Parish Message-ID: <3gXLa.2084$9f7.195444@news02.tsnz.net> Organization: TelstraClear Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit References: <200306171652.h5HGqLEw016681@cvs.openbsd.org> Subject: Re: [9fans] The new ridiculous license Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:41:59 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Theo de Raadt wrote: > It's too difficult for me to explain in full details how much of this > license is not acceptable to us. But it clearly is not acceptable to > us. > > We have an entire operating system (minus a touch of GPL and LGPL here > and there, one sendmail license, and a few smatterings of Artistic) > that has NO CONTRACTS -- every license is simply "copyright law term > dismissal + warranty disclaimer". That is free; these licenses make > no new requirements of anyone; they do not require or re-state > anything that is already the way it is. The BSD licenses we have > simply take rights granted by copyright law to the author, and they > serve to allow the author to give up all of those rights (except the > copyright law right to be known as the author). These licenses ask > for nothing in return; they do not even restate anything that another > law might make a problem -- because there is no need to state it! > > We can't accept this license as it is. I note your meeting notes said > that a goal had been to allow OpenBSD to use parts from this (in > particular we were interested in the c compiler). I think someone did > not listen to us, or understand what a BSD-licensed operating system > has as a goal -- as this is, the plan9 components are now no more free > for us to use than they were weeks ago. > > sure; you have a new license. That will be good for some people. Too > bad it does not go far enough for the needs of a BSD licensed system. > It's just incompatible. It would be the most onerous license in our > tree (well there is the GPL, but year by year we remove and replace > more and more GPL software in our tree... we had hoped to replace the > c compiler in the long term with a free one...) If gcc a.k.a. the c compiler's a problem, why not take this one and run with it: http://www.tendra.org/ "In case you are already wondering, TenDRA is a BSD-licensed C compiler, with C++ STL support forthcoming. The original Crown copyright from DERA is still present and the further expansion of TenDRA is BSDL'd." It's reportedly a very high quality one. Wesley Parish -- First the wife, tone of awe. So much a condition. Kent in the labs, fast forward. "So how was the worthlessful businessman?" But they hadn't stopped meat for year ago, that arose hotel facade slowly moved apper. - Don't let emacs meta-x dissociatedpress write your speeches! From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 18:48:16 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 18:48:16 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 25701 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 18:48:16 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 25696 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 18:48:15 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 18:48:15 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1748E19B51; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:48:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D858119B2B; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:47:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id F1C4519AE2; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:46:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 16B0219AF2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:46:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19Y0WB-0001Tp-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 03 Jul 2003 10:36:43 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Folkert van Heusden Message-ID: <3efee8ae$0$49100$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> Organization: vanheusdendotcom Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Subject: [9fans] looking for shell account on plan9 for porting multitail Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: folkert@vanheusden.com List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:36:22 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi, I wrote a tool called MultiTail. MultiTail lets you view one or multiple files like the original tail program. The difference is that it creates multiple windows on your console (with ncurses). It can also use colors while displaying the logfiles, for faster recognition of which lines are important and which are not. It supports regular expressions. It has interactive menus for editing given regular expressions and deleting and adding windows. One can also have windows with the output of shell scripts and other software. Ok, the deal is: I want to port it to plan9. So, for that I need shell-access to a plan-9 system. Anyone who can give this to me? Some other things: MultiTail uses pseudo-tty's and (n)curses: are these available on Plan9? Folkert van Heusden p.s.: please CC me: not all news(usenet) makes it up to here +-> www.vanheusden.com folkert@vanheusden.com +31-6-41278122 <-+ +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | UNIX sysop? Then give MultiTail ( http://www.vanheusden.com/multitail/ ) | | a try, it brings monitoring logfiles (and such) to a different level! | From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 18:48:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 18:48:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 25710 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 18:48:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 25706 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 18:48:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 18:48:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A8E8C19B31; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:48:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8EDCF19A85; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:48:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D32DC19AF2; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:46:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0B5EB19A85 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:46:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19Y0Vd-0001Sk-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 03 Jul 2003 10:36:09 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: "Douglas A. Gwyn" Message-ID: <3EFD99DE.9030005@null.net> Organization: University of Bath Computing Services, UK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <3EFB47CA.893710B@null.net>, <20030627151258.6ca251a8.apurva@gmx.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] how to boot from hard disk? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:35:45 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Apurva Mehta wrote: > What is the error you are getting when trying to boot plan9? It varies, but usually it can't find a kernel and prompts me to select a file ("fd0" etc.) At that point I'm not sure what to type, but anyway it's not what I expected. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 19:05:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 19:05:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 26159 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 19:05:20 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 26154 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 19:05:19 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 19:05:19 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CB6A519B09; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 06:05:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1379B19AA3; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 06:05:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 38F2E19AE2; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 06:04:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nautilus.escet.urjc.es (nautilus.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.207]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E5E7019A7F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 06:04:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: Fco.J.Ballesteros From: nemo@plan9.escet.urjc.es To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] 'find' In-Reply-To: <3F00600D.4060005@null.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-ofzjuvvnofmhirrfygotwieaeq" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 12:03:38 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-ofzjuvvnofmhirrfygotwieaeq Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dont know if it was good or bad. What I know is that I ended up using trfs because in the end 'this stuff' didnt work as expected (think of acme and others). Sure, it's not perfect, but I need no extra options, and all the programs work as expected (while at the same time they remain using blanks all the times). --upas-ofzjuvvnofmhirrfygotwieaeq Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by aquamar; Thu Jul 3 11:47:49 MDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id ACB2719B1A; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:47:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5852819B0A; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:47:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 34B3B19ADD; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:46:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 60C3C19AF1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:46:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19Y0dF-0001ar-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 03 Jul 2003 10:44:01 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: "Douglas A. Gwyn" Message-ID: <3F00600D.4060005@null.net> Organization: University of Bath Computing Services, UK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20030630141857.15163.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu>, Subject: Re: [9fans] 'find' Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:42:20 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) rog@vitanuova.com wrote: > and i guess awk printf should be given a %q option > and maybe echo should have a -q option too > and du should print its output quoted > and pwd should too > and maybe cp should have an option ... Does this suggest why quoting (prompted by a limitation at the "shell" level) was the wrong idea? --upas-ofzjuvvnofmhirrfygotwieaeq-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 19:47:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 19:47:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27226 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 19:47:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27222 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 19:47:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 19:47:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2624B19AE9; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 06:47:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CE85019ACE; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 06:47:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0D93719AE2; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 06:46:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3B3EC19ACE for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 06:46:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19Y1US-0002O2-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 03 Jul 2003 11:39:00 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Anthony Mandic Message-ID: <3F040518.86A1F1CF@hotmail.com> Organization: Mandic Consulting Pty. Ltd. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <200306191950.h5JJol706204@augusta.math.psu.edu>, <3F004596.2030407@proweb.co.uk>, Subject: Re: [9fans] dennis quote? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:37:02 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,SEMIFORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Clint Olsen wrote: > >>what did dennis say once? > >> > >> unix retarded o/s development by 10 years > >> > >> linux retarded o/s development by 20 years > > It sort of begs the question: What did Windows do? :) It doesn't do anything. Its too retarded. -am © 2003 From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 20:15:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 20:15:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27946 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 20:15:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27942 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 20:15:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 20:15:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9657519B05; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 07:15:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7101A19AD6; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 07:15:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 30F5919AE2; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 07:14:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp803.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp803.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.182]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 2A18819ACE for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 07:14:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from adsl-67-38-19-191.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (HELO ameritech.net) (dbailey27@ameritech.net@67.38.19.191 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 11:14:54 -0000 Message-ID: <3F041E6F.9040204@ameritech.net> From: northern snowfall User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020518 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] PowerPC Booting References: <1c7f90f26f6c602f84f5dd5807293956@sockfarm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 07:15:43 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA, X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > >as well as the nedbsd source. > Ah, the NetBSD source helped. It solved the fd-just- doesnt-seem-to-CLAIM issue. My Power Macintosh refuses to boot certain devices if the output-device is set to the on-board video. Booting NetBSD bootdisks blind works properly if output- device is set to !screen. However, I have yet-another- problem. I don't have a MiniDIN8 serial cable for the Macintosh. Nor do I have a null modem. It seems that I can generate a null modem fairly easily, according to: http://www.netbsd.org/Documentation/Hardware/Misc/serial.html#mac However, I am faced with several problems: a) I have to build my own MiniDIN8 cable 1) what wires do i use? 2) how do i get the 'connector'...? 3) how does it interface with the 'null modem' b) I have to build my own null modem 1) see a){1,2} c) I have zero experience with wiring and am extremely nervous about this. I don't want to lose this Mac, even though I bought it cheap. 1) every machine is precious I'd love some assistance in building a serial cable from the MiniDIN8 to a standard i86pc serial port. I'm very willing to try things out, as long as the factors are known and I'm not putting the hardware at a risk of shorting out, etc. I'm sure there are peopel on this list with experience in this area of work. I'd appreciate the help. Don http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 21:12:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 21:12:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 29190 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 21:12:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 29186 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 21:12:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 21:12:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4D99E19AF5; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:12:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4C64619AD4; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:12:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0470719AD4; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:11:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ar.aichi-u.ac.jp (ar.aichi-u.ac.jp [202.250.160.40]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C38D319A92 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ar.aichi-u.ac.jp ([61.211.130.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 21:11:08 JST 2003 Subject: Re: [9fans] 'find' Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Kenji Arisawa To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <73b6c42894bc770bc171ccc36e6bfe6a@vitanuova.com> Message-Id: <6DC90E82-AD4F-11D7-8A64-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 21:11:08 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_APPLEMAIL version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hello, I have "repeat". usage example: du | repeat -X 'ls -l $2' Kenji Arisawa #!/bin/rc # coded by Kenar # Kenar: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp # usage=' repeat: repeat commands in the argument reading data from input. usage: repeat [-X] ''COMMANDLINE'' option: "-X" enables COMMANDLINE to be executed. 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' xopt=0 br=0 while (~ $1 -* ){ switch($1){ case -X xopt=1 case -FS fs=$2 case -* echo $usage exit usage } shift } if(! ~ $#* 1) { echo $usage exit usage } cmd=$"* # Read fields from stdin while(*=`{read}){ # echo TEST $#* $* switch($xopt){ case 1 eval $cmd case 0 eval echo $cmd } } From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 21:15:21 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 21:15:21 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 29230 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 21:15:21 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 29226 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 21:15:21 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 21:15:21 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3255E19AFF; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:15:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C4C4919A92; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:15:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D44CF19AD4; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:14:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from grillolja.cs.umu.se (grillolja.cs.umu.se [130.239.40.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9D11519A92 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:14:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by amavisd-new (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C8635AC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 14:14:53 +0200 (MEST) Received: from peppar.cs.umu.se (peppar.cs.umu.se [130.239.40.13]) by grillolja.cs.umu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id E66103556 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 14:14:50 +0200 (MEST) Received: by peppar.cs.umu.se (Postfix, from userid 4541) id 8E8962EB74; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 14:14:50 +0200 (MEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peppar.cs.umu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76BA13947F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 14:14:50 +0200 (MEST) From: Tomas To: 9fans <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] PowerPC Booting In-Reply-To: <3F041E6F.9040204@ameritech.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 14:14:50 +0200 (MEST) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 at 7:15am, northern snowfall wrote: > >as well as the nedbsd source. > > > Ah, the NetBSD source helped. It solved the fd-just- > doesnt-seem-to-CLAIM issue. My Power Macintosh refuses > to boot certain devices if the output-device is set to > the on-board video. > > Booting NetBSD bootdisks blind works properly if output- > device is set to !screen. However, I have yet-another- > problem. I don't have a MiniDIN8 serial cable for the > Macintosh. Nor do I have a null modem. > > It seems that I can generate a null modem fairly easily, > according to: > http://www.netbsd.org/Documentation/Hardware/Misc/serial.html#mac > > However, I am faced with several problems: > a) I have to build my own MiniDIN8 cable > 1) what wires do i use? > 2) how do i get the 'connector'...? > 3) how does it interface with the 'null modem' > b) I have to build my own null modem > 1) see a){1,2} > c) I have zero experience with wiring and am extremely > nervous about this. I don't want to lose this Mac, > even though I bought it cheap. > 1) every machine is precious > > I'd love some assistance in building a serial cable from the > MiniDIN8 to a standard i86pc serial port. I'm very willing to > try things out, as long as the factors are known and I'm not > putting the hardware at a risk of shorting out, etc. > > I'm sure there are peopel on this list with experience in > this area of work. I'd appreciate the help. Trying to install and run a headless and diskless SGI Indy, I am also having problems due to MiniDIN8 connectors. It's no fun changing boot parameters in the PROM and trying to boot diskless when there's only a keyboard, ethernet and power cable connected to the machine -- I'd like to see that I really type in correct values, and also why the boot fails halfway through. So far it's been impossible to find a MiniDIN8<->DB9 serial cable (or a MiniDIN8<->DB25 plus a DB25<->DB9 converter), or even a MiniDIN8 connector. But I hear there's a Mac store near the Portland airport that might have some... anyways, I've been thinking about simply cutting off one end of a DB9 cable and plugging in the wires, one by one, directly into the contact on the Indy, using the pinout maps on the URL you mentioned above, as I can't seem to get my hands on a MiniDIN8 connector. Just haven't had the time yet. Building a cable isn't that hard. A soldering iron is helpful, but there are also snap-in connectors for us who don't like soldering. I doubt there are snap-in connectors for MiniDIN8 though, just DB9/DB25... but the pins on connectors are numbered, and it's usually a breeze to build a cable if one has instructions such as those on the NetBSD page. I'll try to get time to fiddle with this during my vacation, and if I have any success I'll let you know. Finally, aren't there some retailers specializing in Mac stuff in the US, from which one should be able to get a MiniDIN8<->DB25 cable? That might be the best solution. If anyone knows, I'd appreciate it if they shared. /Tomas From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 21:58:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 21:58:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 30523 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 21:58:21 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 30519 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 21:58:20 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 21:58:20 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4CDBB19AEA; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:58:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F216F19AB2; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:58:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9880719AB5; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:57:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from juice.thebigchoice.com (pc1-nott2-3-cust18.nott.cable.ntl.com [80.4.204.18]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 8256419A7F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:57:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 44110 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 12:57:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO proweb.co.uk) (192.168.1.100) by juice.thebigchoice.com with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 12:57:38 -0000 Message-ID: <3F042841.5080308@proweb.co.uk> From: matt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] 'find' References: <20030630141857.15163.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu>, <3F00600D.4060005@null.net> In-Reply-To: <3F00600D.4060005@null.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 13:57:37 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA, X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Douglas A. 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Thu Jul 3 22:06:22 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 30729 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 22:06:22 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 30725 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 22:06:22 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 22:06:22 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 36DE519AE2; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:06:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D613519AE0; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:06:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D97FD19AB5; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:05:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EAD2419A7F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:05:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h63D5LeH018756 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 07:05:21 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h63D5KeF018752 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 07:05:20 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] errors compiling an auth kernel In-Reply-To: <87adc2jdaw.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 07:05:20 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) don't user factotum.hack, that doesn't work anymore.. the best thing to do is to do an update (replica/pull) of your system and compile an unmodified pcauth kernel as it appears in the distribution. once that's successful (it's been reported to work by several people here) you can add your ethernet/video hardware do the other sections of the pcauth file as you desire.. there should be no need to change the bootdir section. the wiki is wrong there and i'll change it... andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 22:17:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 22:17:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 31061 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 22:17:23 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 31057 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 22:17:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 22:17:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0749C19B1A; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:17:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D446719AF1; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:17:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4E99E19B00; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:16:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 56A2319AF1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:16:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h63DGieH018771 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 07:16:44 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h63DGiUZ018767 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 07:16:44 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] looking for shell account on plan9 for porting multitail In-Reply-To: <3efee8ae$0$49100$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 07:16:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Folkert van Heusden wrote: > Ok, the deal is: I want to port it to plan9. So, for that I need > shell-access to a plan-9 system. Anyone who can give this to me? you can run plan9 in a vmware image... > > Some other things: MultiTail uses pseudo-tty's and (n)curses: are these > available on Plan9? no.. but here's how you can go about implementing multitail in plan9: #!/bin/rc while (! ~ $#* 0) { window tail -f $1 shift } From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 22:18:16 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 22:18:16 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 31078 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 22:18:16 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 31074 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 22:18:15 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 22:18:15 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4DC5819B1C; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:18:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 39BA619B08; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:18:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 643B519B08; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:17:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz (clusterb.asuch.cas.cz [147.231.136.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 50C7C19AF1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:17:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from picture ([147.231.139.42]) by XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 3 Jul 2003 15:17:15 +0200 Message-ID: <000e01c34165$6bebbe60$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> From: "pac" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jul 2003 13:17:15.0949 (UTC) FILETIME=[6C360DD0:01C34165] Subject: [9fans] is this sufficient? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 15:17:15 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) hi, (and sorry for a stupid Q) is writing cp cd.iso /mnt/cd/wd || echo ERRRRRRORRR writing CD positively sufficient to know that the cd was burnt okay??? thanks, regards, ++pac. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 22:18:27 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 22:18:27 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 31086 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 22:18:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 31082 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 22:18:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 22:18:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 83ADA19B04; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:18:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2D98B19B1B; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:18:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7FCB219B08; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:17:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net (albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.120]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CBB8A19AF1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:17:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sdn-ap-024castocp0142.dialsprint.net ([65.178.112.142] helo=acm.org) by albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19Y3xe-0003sS-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 03 Jul 2003 06:17:18 -0700 Message-ID: <3F042D20.5060502@acm.org> From: "D. Brownlee" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; NetBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030701 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] PowerPC Booting References: <8d1d79d373312526d6b556f424b96121@collyer.net> <3F03C368.4080308@ameritech.net> In-Reply-To: <3F03C368.4080308@ameritech.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 06:18:24 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,RCVD_IN_NJABL,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG, X_NJABL_DIALUP version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) northern snowfall wrote: > Are there any docs on how Open Firmware booting works? All At netbsd.org, look at the 'macppc' port, you'll find links to Open Firmware, booting macs from disk or network. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 22:31:19 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 22:31:19 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 31421 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 22:31:18 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 31417 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 22:31:18 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 22:31:18 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3412419B18; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:31:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CF07719AF8; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:31:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DFEAF19AF8; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:30:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8575219ACE for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:30:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h63DKVnp023591 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 15:20:33 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h63DKSO8023590 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 15:20:28 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] is this sufficient? Message-ID: <20030703152019.F16824@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: <000e01c34165$6bebbe60$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: <000e01c34165$6bebbe60$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz>; from pac on Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 03:17:15PM +0200 Organization: Proxima Research & Development Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 15:20:20 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 03:17:15PM +0200, pac wrote: > > is writing > cp cd.iso /mnt/cd/wd || echo ERRRRRRORRR writing CD > positively sufficient to know that the cd was burnt okay??? > You'll have to read the manual a little more carefully: rm /mnt/cd/wd seems necessary to seal the CD. ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 22:33:18 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 22:33:18 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 31501 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 22:33:18 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 31497 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 22:33:18 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 22:33:18 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4CADC19B1F; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:33:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id ADD4119AD4; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:33:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9863419AFB; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:32:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp809.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp809.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.188]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id A6C0619AD4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:32:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from adsl-67-38-19-191.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (HELO ameritech.net) (dbailey27@ameritech.net@67.38.19.191 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 13:32:34 -0000 Message-ID: <3F043EB3.7010600@ameritech.net> From: northern snowfall User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020518 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] PowerPC Booting References: <8d1d79d373312526d6b556f424b96121@collyer.net> <3F03C368.4080308@ameritech.net> <3F042D20.5060502@acm.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 09:33:23 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA, X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > At netbsd.org, look at the 'macppc' port, you'll find > links to Open Firmware, booting macs from disk or network. > I actually meant the low level OF interface between the boot image and the OF that chooses it. The NetBSD ofwboot sources were pretty enlightening for this issue. I've already got my own XCOFF image loading, I just can't see it yet. Only 1,000 more things to go! Don http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 22:57:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 22:57:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 32204 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 22:57:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 32200 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 22:57:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 22:57:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2FFDA19AF8; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:57:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E404319AF8; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:57:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E685C19AF2; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:56:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net (albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.120]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3FD3D19A7F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:56:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sdn-ap-024castocp0142.dialsprint.net ([65.178.112.142] helo=acm.org) by albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19Y4ZD-0003eN-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 03 Jul 2003 06:56:07 -0700 Message-ID: <3F043639.3080704@acm.org> From: "D. Brownlee" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; NetBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030701 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] PowerPC Booting References: <8d1d79d373312526d6b556f424b96121@collyer.net> <3F03C368.4080308@ameritech.net> <3F042D20.5060502@acm.org> <3F043EB3.7010600@ameritech.net> In-Reply-To: <3F043EB3.7010600@ameritech.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 06:57:13 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,RCVD_IN_NJABL,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG, X_NJABL_DIALUP version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I've already got my own XCOFF image loading, I just can't see > it yet. Only 1,000 more things to go! > I don't think getting Plan 9 working on a power pc mac is as hard as some of the archived discussions might indicate. With the NetBSD macppc source, you can easily find alot of the low level software/hardware interface issues solved, and recent macs use PCI, ATI graphics and IDE drives, so the hardware isn't totally proprietary anymore. One suggestion though: NetBSD's 'macppc' port, v1.5, had some buggy USB code, which is fixed in 1.6.1. Good Luck! (I have an iMac I'd like to run Plan 9 on) From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 23:23:27 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 23:23:27 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 487 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 23:23:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 483 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 23:23:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 23:23:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C474419B08; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:23:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B64B019AF2; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:23:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7528A19AD4; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:22:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8928519AF2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:22:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h63EMUeH018856 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:22:30 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h63EMUrc018852 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:22:30 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] fossil warnings Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:22:30 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) the following warning filled up the console of my fossil server this morning: could not write super block; waiting 10 seconds [repeated 30 times] disk: io=10001 at 1.484ms obviously it succeeded at the end... the source indicate this condition isn't likely to happen, or wasn't expected... should i worry? andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 23:36:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 23:36:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 811 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 23:36:21 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 807 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 23:36:21 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 23:36:21 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 69998199DC; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:36:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AC7B4199DC; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:36:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BC75419AB5; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:35:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp809.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp809.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.188]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id C4794199B9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:35:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from adsl-67-38-19-191.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (HELO ameritech.net) (dbailey27@ameritech.net@67.38.19.191 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 14:35:36 -0000 Message-ID: <3F044D79.9000002@ameritech.net> From: northern snowfall User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020518 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] PowerPC Booting References: <8d1d79d373312526d6b556f424b96121@collyer.net> <3F03C368.4080308@ameritech.net> <3F042D20.5060502@acm.org> <3F043EB3.7010600@ameritech.net> <3F043639.3080704@acm.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 10:36:25 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA, X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Good Luck! (I have an iMac I'd like to run Plan 9 on) Don't get too excited, I'm mainly focused on getting plan9 on my Power Mac 5400/120. Further research would probably be of interest to me, sure, but, it'd have to be a concerted effort since I don't have all the hardware for testing. I wont release code unless I test it, especially if the code is hardware related. Don http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_ > From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 23:46:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 23:46:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 981 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 23:46:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 977 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 23:46:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 23:46:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7298919B24; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:46:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 508E119AF2; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:46:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5B45F19AFB; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:45:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 77B8A19AD4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:45:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 135.255.40.23 ([135.255.40.23]) by plan9; Thu Jul 3 10:45:34 EDT 2003 Message-ID: <000901c34192$d0dc1220$1728ff87@bl.belllabs.com> From: "david presotto" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] strange things in /sys/log/auth MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 14:42:10 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_FUTURE_03_06,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Lots of possible problems. If you change the bootes password, and convkeys the file while still running keyfs with the old keys, you can easily hose yourself. You have to kill off the keyfs running with the old keys before you convkeys anything. ----- Original Message ----- From: "andrey mirtchovski" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [9fans] strange things in /sys/log/auth > i fixed the problem -- the /adm/keys file was fscked somehow. > > i was able to see directory entries for all users i've added in /mnt/keys, > but after the directory listing there was garbage, the same thing Geoff sent > a few messages back. when started keyfs was reporting 'bad status in key'. > > i ended up doing: > > % rm /adm/keys > % con -l /srv/fscons > main: create /active/adm/keys bootes bootes 660 > % auth/changeuser bootes > ... > > and then added all other users again. i've saved the old keys file, in case > anyone is interested in playing with it to see what's wrong. i've changed > all passwords :) > > i'm a little worried, though -- i was thinking that bootes can only change > passwords on the console, but killing keyfs and restarting it again as > bootes in a local namespace gives me write privileges to /mnt/keys (though > i loose the ability to login to the machine, naturally :) > > is it advisable to lock the keyfs process the same way factotum's process > is? put it in the kernel? disallow 'echo kill > /proc/xx/ctl'? > > inquiring minds want to know :) > > > On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, David Presotto wrote: > > > It means you have to: > > > > 1) kill keyfs > > 2) run auth/convkeys on the keyfile > > 3) reboot the auth server (or just give the new key to factotum on the auth server) > > 4) if you use an nvram on the auth server to store the key, use auth/wrkey > > to rewrite it > > From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 3 23:57:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 3 23:57:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 1389 invoked by uid 1020); 3 Jul 2003 23:57:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 1385 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 23:57:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 23:57:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 87F6F19B39; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:57:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 029BB19AD4; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:57:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 178F219AF2; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:56:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1B9E219AB5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:56:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h63EuTeH018899 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:56:29 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h63EuTZG018895 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:56:29 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] how is it done on sources? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:56:29 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) how do you manage to change all file owners to sys/sys on sources without running fossil in 'allow' mode? also, what is the difference between 755 and 644, as illustrated in this replica/pull snippet (why does 644 work, while 755 doesn't): a 386/bin/xmr 775 sys sys 1039758616 warning: cannot set uid on /n/boot/386/bin/xmr a 386/bin/xms 775 sys sys 1039758617 warning: cannot set uid on /n/boot/386/bin/xms a 386/bin/yacc 775 sys sys 1045538096 warning: cannot set uid on /n/boot/386/bin/yacc a 386/bin/zip 775 sys sys 1045538096 warning: cannot set uid on /n/boot/386/bin/zip a 386/include/ape/float.h 664 sys sys 969656988 a 386/include/ape/math.h 664 sys sys 1046282351 a 386/include/ape/stdarg.h 664 sys sys 944946040 a 386/include/ape/ureg.h 664 sys sys 944946041 a 386/include/u.h 664 sys sys 1042604326 a 386/include/ureg.h 664 sys sys 944946012 thanx, andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 00:10:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 00:10:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 1640 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 00:10:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 1636 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 00:10:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 00:10:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 965D319B00; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:10:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 20FA219AF2; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:10:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CAD9A19AFB; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:09:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nautilus.escet.urjc.es (nautilus.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.207]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6FA3319AD4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:09:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: Fco.J.Ballesteros From: nemo@plan9.escet.urjc.es To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] how is it done on sources? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-dgzofbdddvpnrgrzpovhrdvbgh" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 17:09:36 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-dgzofbdddvpnrgrzpovhrdvbgh Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 755 is rwxr-xr-x 644 is rw-r--r-- regarding sys, I don't know how they do it. I use the command allow to put fossil temporarily in allow mode for the user doing the update. (has to be done in the console, though). --upas-dgzofbdddvpnrgrzpovhrdvbgh Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by aquamar; Thu Jul 3 16:57:23 MDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A111719AD4; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:57:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 029BB19AD4; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:57:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 178F219AF2; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:56:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1B9E219AB5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:56:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h63EuTeH018899 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:56:29 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h63EuTZG018895 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:56:29 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] how is it done on sources? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:56:29 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) how do you manage to change all file owners to sys/sys on sources without running fossil in 'allow' mode? also, what is the difference between 755 and 644, as illustrated in this replica/pull snippet (why does 644 work, while 755 doesn't): a 386/bin/xmr 775 sys sys 1039758616 warning: cannot set uid on /n/boot/386/bin/xmr a 386/bin/xms 775 sys sys 1039758617 warning: cannot set uid on /n/boot/386/bin/xms a 386/bin/yacc 775 sys sys 1045538096 warning: cannot set uid on /n/boot/386/bin/yacc a 386/bin/zip 775 sys sys 1045538096 warning: cannot set uid on /n/boot/386/bin/zip a 386/include/ape/float.h 664 sys sys 969656988 a 386/include/ape/math.h 664 sys sys 1046282351 a 386/include/ape/stdarg.h 664 sys sys 944946040 a 386/include/ape/ureg.h 664 sys sys 944946041 a 386/include/u.h 664 sys sys 1042604326 a 386/include/ureg.h 664 sys sys 944946012 thanx, andrey --upas-dgzofbdddvpnrgrzpovhrdvbgh-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 00:16:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 00:16:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 1720 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 00:16:23 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 1716 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 00:16:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 00:16:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2EE3419B4E; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:16:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BABA019B1B; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:16:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6018E19B26; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:15:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.mightycheese.com (mail.mightycheese.com [209.61.186.18]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A43A319AFB for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:15:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [216.239.45.4] (HELO glenda.corp.google.com) by mail.mightycheese.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 695450 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 03 Jul 2003 10:22:26 -0500 Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] 'find' From: "rob pike, esq." In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:14:38 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Does this suggest why quoting (prompted by a limitation > at the "shell" level) was the wrong idea? it may have been wrong to do anything at the shell level, but it was put in to clean up kernel interfaces and there i think it was a success. with textual command syntax, you need some help. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 00:24:24 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 00:24:24 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 1843 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 00:24:23 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 1839 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 00:24:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 00:24:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6198D19B54; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:24:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 63C4919B4B; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:24:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C993319B2A; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:23:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from juice.thebigchoice.com (pc1-nott2-3-cust18.nott.cable.ntl.com [80.4.204.18]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id CDB9C19AFB for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:23:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 68323 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 15:23:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO proweb.co.uk) (192.168.1.100) by juice.thebigchoice.com with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 15:23:34 -0000 Message-ID: <3F044A75.6050409@proweb.co.uk> From: matt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] PowerPC Booting References: <8d1d79d373312526d6b556f424b96121@collyer.net> <3F03C368.4080308@ameritech.net> <3F042D20.5060502@acm.org> <3F043EB3.7010600@ameritech.net> <3F043639.3080704@acm.org> <3F044D79.9000002@ameritech.net> In-Reply-To: <3F044D79.9000002@ameritech.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 16:23:34 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > Don't get too excited, I'm mainly focused on getting plan9 > on my Power Mac 5400/120. that's exciting enough, a quick trip to ebay sees them at $20 From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 00:25:15 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 00:25:15 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 1853 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 00:25:15 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 1849 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 00:25:15 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 00:25:15 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CB95E19B57; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:25:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E539619B26; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:25:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6FEEE19B55; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:24:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 823A419B4B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:24:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h63FO9eH018938 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:24:09 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h63FO9nn018934 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:24:09 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] how is it done on sources? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:24:09 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Fco.J.Ballesteros wrote: > 755 is rwxr-xr-x > 644 is rw-r--r-- > the question is 'why does replica/pull behave differently when the only difference between any two files in question is in their execution bits?' i'm not explaining myself well, i know... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 00:48:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 00:48:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 2219 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 00:48:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 2215 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 00:48:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 00:48:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D8A5319B58; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:48:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B347B19B26; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:48:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id F3F7E19B41; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:47:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.74.5]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D076D19B1B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:47:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cisco.com (144.254.74.60) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 03 Jul 2003 17:48:10 +0200 Received: from cisco.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ams-msg-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h63FjnEb006532 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 17:45:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from dfawcus@localhost) by cisco.com (8.8.8/2.6/Cisco List Logging/8.8.8) id QAA05558 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 16:47:53 +0100 (BST) From: Derek Fawcus To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: <20030703164753.B2573@edinburgh.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="6TrnltStXW4iwmi0" X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Subject: [9fans] sam hacking - a couple of fixes that may apply to plan9 version... Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 16:47:53 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Because of the RTT to some of the machines I have to edit code on, I decided to dig out the copy of sam I downloaded a few years ago, and get it going again. [1] As part of this I did a few hacks, the main one being ripping out the code in sam that plumbs together the io between samterm and sam, moving it into a seperate stub starter - just 'cause I want to play some games with the startup sequence when using SSH - anyone interested in these? The other hack (for the moment) is removing the '\n' appended to the use of the 'Send' menu choice. I find it more useful without the newline - does anyone actually find it useful with the newline? I also noticed what appears to be a couple of bugs in the use of tmpcstr() and freetmpstr(). I've had a glance at my copy of the 3rd ed. plan 9 sources, and these still appear to be there (one incorrectly fixed), but since I've not looked at the 4th ed. source yet, I don't know if they still applies. So I have diffs against the old netlib version, which probably aren't of much interest and the following (hand hacked) diffs which may well apply to the plan 9 version. If someone want's to patch the unix netlib version, then it may be of help to some other people... One of these days, I really should get a copy of plan 9 running on a machine to try it out... DF [1] I also grabbed the latest 1998 copy from netlib to compare, and apart from changing a bunch of copyright lines (advancing 6 years) from AT&T -> Lucent, not much seems to have been altered. Mind - as a red rag to the licencing wags - the licence for the netlib verison of sam is very liberal... --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="sam-freetmpstr.diff" diff -ru5p sam/error.c sam-host/error.c --- sam/error.c Fri Jun 27 23:03:54 2003 +++ sam-host/error.c Wed Jul 2 01:02:07 2003 @@ -125,8 +120,9 @@ termwrite(char *s) if(cmd) loginsert(cmd, cmdpt, p->s, p->n); else Strinsert(&cmdstr, p, cmdstr.n); cmdptadv += p->n; - free(p); + freetmpstr(p); }else Write(2, s, strlen(s)); } diff -ru5p sam/mesg.c sam-host/mesg.c --- sam/mesg.c Thu Jul 3 12:00:08 2003 +++ sam-host/mesg.c Thu Jul 3 14:11:27 2003 @@ -392,12 +400,15 @@ inmesg(Tmesg type) journaln(0, p0); journaln(0, p1); setgenstr(f, p0, p1); for(l = 0; lnrunes); Binsert(snarfbuf, &genstr, (Posn)0); outTl(Hsnarflen, genstr.n); +#if 0 if(genstr.s[genstr.n-1] != '\n') Straddc(&genstr, '\n'); +#endif Finsert(cmd, &genstr, cmd->nrunes); Fupdate(cmd, FALSE, TRUE); cmd->dot.r.p1 = cmd->dot.r.p2 = cmd->nrunes; telldot(cmd); termcommand(); --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 01:09:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 01:09:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 2565 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 01:09:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 2561 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 01:09:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 01:09:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8752219B5A; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 12:09:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AF5D919B1B; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 12:09:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 31E1919B43; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 12:08:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-11.noos.net [212.198.2.82]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5366A19B26 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 12:08:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 100442358 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jul 2003 16:08:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.82 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 3 Jul 2003 16:08:52 -0000 Message-ID: <014201c3417d$5d47a640$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <20030703164753.B2573@edinburgh.cisco.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] sam hacking - a couple of fixes that may apply to plan9 version... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 18:08:38 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > The other hack (for the moment) is removing the '\n' appended to the > use of the 'Send' menu choice. I find it more useful without the > newline - does anyone actually find it useful with the newline? that sounds like a plan. then i can select 'paste' and then hit return. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 01:32:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 01:32:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 2862 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 01:32:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 2858 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 01:32:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 01:32:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7FC12199B9; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 12:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9E2A019B4D; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 12:32:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A58A519B4B; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 12:31:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from edoras.nas.com (edoras.nas.com [206.63.100.8]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D5F0119B43 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 12:31:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from max2-d118.nas.com (max2-d118.nas.com [206.63.102.247]) by edoras.nas.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4B7EBB75 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [9fans] PowerPC Booting From: Jack Johnson To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1057249903.3825.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: 03 Jul 2003 09:31:43 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_XIMIAN version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 05:14, Tomas wrote: > On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 at 7:15am, northern snowfall wrote: > > I'd love some assistance in building a serial cable from the > > MiniDIN8 to a standard i86pc serial port. I'm very willing to > > try things out, as long as the factors are known and I'm not > > putting the hardware at a risk of shorting out, etc. > So far it's been impossible to find a MiniDIN8<->DB9 serial cable > (or a MiniDIN8<->DB25 plus a DB25<->DB9 converter), or even a > MiniDIN8 connector. I've got a Wyse 60 from a garage sale and I went to some random Mac store and bought a standard Macintosh modem cable (MiniDIN8<->DB25) and have had zero problems. Another trick you can use if you need a serial console from a Mac (and maybe the Indy, too) is to use another old Mac and find an appropriate cable. You'll find they come in two types: ones with a little Apple symbol on the connector and one with two-way arrows: <--- ---> The latter seem to make fine null modem cables. As for rolling your own, I'm also a wiring loser, but your local severe-geek store (looks like a Radio Shack on steroids) should have MiniDIN8 connectors, and if you're lucky or brave you may be able to find a MiniDIN8<->RJ45 adapter, which means you could get a DB9/DB25<->RJ45 (very easy to find) for the other end, some cable, ends and a crimper and do some experimentation pretty easily, sans soldering iron. Good luck! -Jack From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 01:44:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 01:44:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 3046 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 01:44:22 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 3042 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 01:44:22 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 01:44:22 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5791D19B60; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 12:44:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7AFA819B43; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 12:44:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 31B5C19B4D; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 12:43:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.mightycheese.com (mail.mightycheese.com [209.61.186.18]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 78A6219B20 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 12:43:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [216.239.45.4] (HELO glenda.corp.google.com) by mail.mightycheese.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 695517 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 03 Jul 2003 11:50:50 -0500 Message-ID: <1a6d4056b9f49a8aa2d7eed14d5c050a@mightycheese.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] sam hacking - a couple of fixes that may apply to plan9 version... From: "rob pike, esq." In-Reply-To: <014201c3417d$5d47a640$d2944251@insultant.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:43:01 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > does anyone actually find it useful with the newline it was done this way for consistency with 'send' in the old blit window manager. isolated in an editor, it makes much less sense. -rob From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 02:02:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 02:02:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 3320 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 02:02:23 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 3316 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 02:02:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 02:02:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C95D019B62; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:02:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E48DE19ACE; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:02:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DDE1019B56; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:01:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 42E3A19ACE for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:01:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19Y7R8-0002vi-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 03 Jul 2003 17:59:58 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: "Douglas A. Gwyn" Message-ID: <3F045F49.6080905@null.net> Organization: University of Bath Computing Services, UK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20030630141857.15163.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu>, <3F042841.5080308@proweb.co.uk> Subject: Re: [9fans] 'find' Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 16:59:17 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) matt wrote: > maybe we should have stuck with " as the delimeter I think delimiters should be chosen from the set of characters that one is willing to "live without" in the delimited components. That includes control characters but not space, ", or /. Control characters can be displayed with some reasonable graphic and of course are snarfable etc. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 02:07:19 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 02:07:19 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 3376 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 02:07:19 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 3372 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 02:07:19 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 02:07:19 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E134919B59; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:07:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7135119B1B; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:07:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EA6F519B1B; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:06:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from larch (unknown [195.173.15.12]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CF3FF19ACE for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:06:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: steve.simon@snellwilcox.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] sam hacking - a couple of fixes that may apply t In-Reply-To: <2149465875@snellwilcox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-tdxwrwkttbcsupkfgggquhgclu" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 18:06:04 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-tdxwrwkttbcsupkfgggquhgclu Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, As one of (I suspect) a dieing breed of intensive sam users I like send appending \n. I believe it's a matter of outlook. If you regard sam's command window as a typescript then you tend to assemble a command at the output/input point which requires many laborious cut and pastes. I can imagine not having to move the mouse before doing the paste would then seem very attrictive. If however, the history in the sam window is just text then one is quite within ones rights to 'change history', edit it, double click to the right of it (to select it) and hit send. I do this dozens of times a day. just my 2¢ worth ;-) -Steve PS. thanks Rob for releasing it alll those years ago, it has been a pool of sanity in an ever changing OS enviroment. --upas-tdxwrwkttbcsupkfgggquhgclu Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 17:43:01 +0100 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu bcc: "Steve Simon" From: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Sender: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Importance: normal Priority: normal Subject: Re: [9fans] sam hacking - a couple of fixes that may apply t Message-Id: <2149465875@snellwilcox.com> X-MIME-Engine: v0.90 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Id: <2149465875-1@snellwilcox.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > does anyone actually find it useful with the newline it was done this way for consistency with 'send' in the old blit window man= ager. isolated in an editor, it makes much less sense. -rob --upas-tdxwrwkttbcsupkfgggquhgclu-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 02:10:24 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 02:10:24 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 3393 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 02:10:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 3389 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 02:10:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 02:10:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8FBA519B5C; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:10:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 28CD319B20; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:10:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 97CC719B20; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:09:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from juice.thebigchoice.com (pc1-nott2-3-cust18.nott.cable.ntl.com [80.4.204.18]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 7DEBA19B0D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:09:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 86310 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 17:09:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO proweb.co.uk) (192.168.1.100) by juice.thebigchoice.com with SMTP; 3 Jul 2003 17:09:21 -0000 Message-ID: <3F046341.3060302@proweb.co.uk> From: matt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] 'find' References: <20030630141857.15163.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu>, <3F042841.5080308@proweb.co.uk> <3F045F49.6080905@null.net> In-Reply-To: <3F045F49.6080905@null.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 18:09:21 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA, X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Douglas A. Gwyn wrote: > matt wrote: > >> maybe we should have stuck with " as the delimeter > > > I think delimiters should be chosen from the set of > characters that one is willing to "live without" in > the delimited components. That includes control > characters but not space, ", or /. Control characters > can be displayed with some reasonable graphic and of > course are snarfable etc. > > yes, I wasn't being serious re " It has been mentioned before so I didn't think it worth repeating that a non-human usable glyph is desirable as a universal field delimeter My whimsy was to demonstrated the problem of writing about the glyph without using the glyph so that any software the processes my emails doesn't get confused by the glyph I can't mention. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 02:29:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 02:29:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 3754 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 02:29:23 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 3750 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 02:29:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 02:29:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B537919B5F; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:29:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B38BF19B20; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:29:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A039419B20; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:28:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net (conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.54]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EBD6419B0D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:28:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sdn-ap-019castocp0372.dialsprint.net ([65.178.65.118] helo=acm.org) by conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19Y7sO-0007Za-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 03 Jul 2003 10:28:08 -0700 Message-ID: <3F0467E9.3040904@acm.org> From: "D. Brownlee" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; NetBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030701 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] The new ridiculous license References: <200306171652.h5HGqLEw016681@cvs.openbsd.org> <3gXLa.2084$9f7.195444@news02.tsnz.net> In-Reply-To: <3gXLa.2084$9f7.195444@news02.tsnz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 10:29:13 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, RCVD_IN_NJABL,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG,X_NJABL_DIALUP version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Wesley Parish wrote: > If gcc a.k.a. the c compiler's a problem, why not take this one and run with > it: > http://www.tendra.org/ > > "In case you are already wondering, TenDRA is a BSD-licensed C compiler, > with C++ STL support forthcoming. The original Crown copyright from DERA is > still present and the further expansion of TenDRA is BSDL'd." > > It's reportedly a very high quality one. > > Wesley Parish > Also, ACK is available with a BSD-style license. Don't know -- haven't followed compilers lately -- but it's generated code used to be respectable. It is also fairly easy to get a compiler up for a new archictecture. It was recently at: http://www.cs.vu.nl/vakgroepen/cs/ack.html but just noticed that that link is now 404. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 02:42:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 02:42:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 4141 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 02:42:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 4137 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 02:42:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 02:42:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6E4CD19B61; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:42:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EFF3419B52; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:42:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 917EC19A69; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:41:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.74.5]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8823619A04 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:41:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cisco.com (144.254.74.60) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 03 Jul 2003 19:42:04 +0200 Received: from cisco.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ams-msg-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h63Hdi8h026719 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 19:39:44 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from dfawcus@localhost) by cisco.com (8.8.8/2.6/Cisco List Logging/8.8.8) id SAA12118 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 18:41:46 +0100 (BST) From: Derek Fawcus To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] sam hacking - a couple of fixes that may apply t Message-ID: <20030703184146.C2573@edinburgh.cisco.com> References: <2149465875@snellwilcox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from steve.simon@snellwilcox.com on Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 06:06:04PM +0100 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 18:41:46 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 06:06:04PM +0100, steve.simon@snellwilcox.com wrote: > Hi, > > As one of (I suspect) a dieing breed of intensive sam users > I like send appending \n. > > I believe it's a matter of outlook. If you regard sam's command window > as a typescript then you tend to assemble a command at the > output/input point which requires many laborious cut and pastes. > > I can imagine not having to move the mouse before doing the paste would > then seem very attrictive. > > If however, the history in the sam window is just text then one is > quite within ones rights to 'change history', edit it, double click > to the right of it (to select it) and hit send. > > I do this dozens of times a day. Hmm - I get it. Please take into account this is my first serious attempt to use the editor (and the UI) since I forst read the paper in '87. I see how you're using it, and I agree it's behaviour makes sense in that context. What I was using it for was pasting dot from an editor window into the command window - without trashing the snarf buffer. In a similar vein, what sort of things do people use the ESC key behaviour for? I'd guess it's intended for use with 'look' but has the side effect of chucking extra text into the editor window. Or is one expected to play games bouncing back to the sam window, undo, then some search (either regex in sam window, or look back in editor window). Anyway, I guess I should have a bit more of a play before I hack too much :-) The other hack I'm playing around with is the arrow keys - I keep on hitting them and getting confused. So I've made left/right dead keys, and (if I can figure it easily) will make up/down scroll one line, else they'll become dead keys as well. DF From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 02:51:40 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 02:51:40 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 4309 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 02:51:39 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 4305 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 02:51:39 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 02:51:39 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id F11A819B72; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:51:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8352A19A1D; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:51:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CB89919B52; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:50:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from invert.10k.org (66-108-255-235.nyc.rr.com [66.108.255.235]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 44B1E19A1D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:50:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by invert.10k.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E41B2A534; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:39:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by invert.10k.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18EEA532 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:39:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Jake Luck X-X-Sender: jake@invert.10k.org To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] PowerPC Booting In-Reply-To: <3F044D79.9000002@ameritech.net> Message-ID: References: <8d1d79d373312526d6b556f424b96121@collyer.net> <3F03C368.4080308@ameritech.net> <3F042D20.5060502@acm.org> <3F043EB3.7010600@ameritech.net> <3F043639.3080704@acm.org> <3F044D79.9000002@ameritech.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:39:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) North: for OW-booting you might want to take a look at BootX http://penguinppc.org/~benh/ It bootstraps off a running MacOS which gives you a lot of facilities such as filesystem network etc. Good luck jake From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 02:51:42 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 02:51:42 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 4302 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 02:51:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 4298 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 02:51:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 02:51:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D684F19B66; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:51:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B293B19A1D; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:51:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 176B719A70; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:50:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net (conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.54]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 63EA819A04 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:50:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sdn-ap-019castocp0372.dialsprint.net ([65.178.65.118] helo=acm.org) by conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19Y8Dg-00010J-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 03 Jul 2003 10:50:08 -0700 Message-ID: <3F046D11.1040106@acm.org> From: "D. Brownlee" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; NetBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030701 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] The new OK license References: <200306171652.h5HGqLEw016681@cvs.openbsd.org> <3gXLa.2084$9f7.195444@news02.tsnz.net> <3F0467E9.3040904@acm.org> In-Reply-To: <3F0467E9.3040904@acm.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 10:51:13 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,RCVD_IN_NJABL,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG, X_NJABL_DIALUP version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) D. Brownlee wrote: > Also, ACK is available with a BSD-style license. > Don't know -- haven't followed compilers lately -- but > it's generated code used to be respectable. It is also > fairly easy to get a compiler up for a new archictecture. > It was recently at: > > http://www.cs.vu.nl/vakgroepen/cs/ack.html > > but just noticed that that link is now 404. > > These work: ftp://ftp.cs.vu.nl/pub/ceriel/ack/Ack-5.5.tar.gz ftp://ftp.cs.vu.nl/pub/ceriel/ack/doc.tar.gz From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 03:31:21 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 03:31:21 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 4777 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 03:31:20 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 4773 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 03:31:20 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 03:31:20 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8B9F519B6E; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 14:31:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 56F7119B43; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 14:31:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 254F319B64; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 14:30:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plg2.math.uwaterloo.ca (plg2.math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.200]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4E54819B52 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 14:30:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rcbilson@localhost) by plg2.math.uwaterloo.ca (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) id OAA05117 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 14:30:24 -0400 From: Richard C Bilson Message-Id: <200307031830.OAA05117@plg2.math.uwaterloo.ca> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] sam hacking - a couple of fixes that may apply t Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 14:30:24 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > From: steve.simon@snellwilcox.com > > If however, the history in the sam window is just text then one is > quite within ones rights to 'change history', edit it, double click > to the right of it (to select it) and hit send. But by double-clicking to the right of the text you pick up the entire line, plus terminating new-line, right? So you're not relying on the add-a-newline behavior. - Richard [...who doesn't use sam all that often, but often uses win in the manner that you describe] From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 04:37:17 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 04:37:17 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 5639 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 04:37:16 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 5635 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 04:37:16 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 04:37:16 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5FB2219B73; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 15:37:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 309AB19B52; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 15:37:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0BA5419B64; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 15:36:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mobydick.int.entrisphere.com (unknown [63.203.52.228]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5286D19B50 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 15:36:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from entrisphere.com ([192.168.168.142]) by mobydick.int.entrisphere.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 3 Jul 2003 12:36:28 -0700 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] sam hacking - a couple of fixes that may apply to plan9 version... In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 03 Jul 2003 09:43:01 PDT." <1a6d4056b9f49a8aa2d7eed14d5c050a@mightycheese.com> From: Tad Hunt Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jul 2003 19:36:28.0579 (UTC) FILETIME=[65D5DF30:01C3419A] Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 12:36:28 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > does anyone actually find it useful with the newline Yes. Use paste if you don't want to send. -Tad From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 04:55:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 04:55:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 5971 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 04:55:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 5967 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 04:55:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 04:55:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3951819B77; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 15:55:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0E48519B56; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 15:55:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9FB0219B68; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 15:54:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from thefrayedknot.armory.com (thefrayedknot.armory.com [192.122.209.41]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id D8BE719B43 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 15:54:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23837 invoked by uid 1000); 3 Jul 2003 19:54:11 -0000 From: Andrew To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Cc: folkert@vanheusden.com Subject: Re: [9fans] looking for shell account on plan9 for porting multitail Message-ID: <20030703195411.GB23774@thefrayedknot.armory.com> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu, folkert@vanheusden.com References: <3efee8ae$0$49100$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3efee8ae$0$49100$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 12:54:11 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > Ok, the deal is: I want to port it to plan9. So, for that I need > shell-access to a plan-9 system. Anyone who can give this to me? I can get you an account on my system. email me off the list for details. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 05:57:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 05:57:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 6865 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 05:57:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 6860 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 05:57:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 05:57:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8ED7219B7B; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 16:57:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4EEEA19B78; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 16:57:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 589C319B78; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 16:56:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mobydick.int.entrisphere.com (unknown [63.203.52.228]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 913EC1998C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 16:56:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from entrisphere.com ([192.168.168.142]) by mobydick.int.entrisphere.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:56:08 -0700 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Tad Hunt Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jul 2003 20:56:08.0111 (UTC) FILETIME=[86A893F0:01C341A5] Subject: [9fans] bug in powerpc libc powerpc memccpy.s Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 13:56:08 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) There is only one required change, Line 22 needs to change from the MOVW to the ADD. As implemented, memccpy() returns the wrong pointer into the wrong string. The other changes are whitespace related. Oh yeah, and the Z on the store doesn't really make sense to me, so I got rid of it. The store with or without the Z results in the same instruction. -Tad diff local/sys/src/libc/power/memccpy.s dist/sys/src/libc/power/memccpy.s 3c3 < MOVW R3, s1+0(FP) --- > MOVW R3, s1+0(FP) 7d6 < 11d9 < 17c15 < MOVBU R6, 1(R3) --- > MOVBZU R6, 1(R3) 24c22 < ADD $1, R3 --- > MOVW R4, R3 From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 06:10:38 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 06:10:38 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 7079 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 06:10:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 7075 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 06:10:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 06:10:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6976319B85; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 17:10:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3774819B7A; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 17:10:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 36A0319B7A; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 17:09:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athena.softcardsystems.com (mail.softcardsystems.com [12.34.136.114]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 795AB19AFB for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 17:09:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athena (athena [12.34.136.114]) by athena.softcardsystems.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h63KDmfw001833 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 16:13:48 -0400 From: Sam X-Sender: To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] dos boot record manglin' Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 16:13:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) My laptop has three partitions: fat16, plan9, fat32. I recently copied a tarfile from /n/ftp to /n/c: to do some Windows work. I then halted kfs and powered down. I may have unmounted /n/c: -- I can't be certain. It was later in the evening before I came back to actually do said work. Next boot, Windows didn't. Mounting the partition in plan 9 fails with "unknown format." It appears that something stepped on the dos boot record for both the fat16 and fat32 partitions. eg, fat16: term% dd -if /dev/sdC0/dos -bs 512 -count 1 | xd -c 1+0 records in 1+0 records out 0000000 13 00 00 00 d ff ff 18 00 00 06 00 9 P 2 0000010 0 0 0 00 00 f8 ff 00 ? 00 f0 00 ? 00 00 00 0000020 c1 c0 > 00 80 00 ) I k 05 a0 00 O N A 0000030 M E 00 F A T 1 6 3 c9 (everything after this looks OK) Note the peculiarly placed 9P2000 at byte 13. I'm trying to come up to speed on the fat filesystem format so I can re-establish the dos boot record fields that have been stamped on. Can anyone offer some help in this regard? For completeness, the dos boot record on the fat32 partition looks like: term% dd -if /dev/sdC0/dos1 -bs 512 -count 1 | xd -c 1+0 records in 1+0 records out 0000000 13 00 00 00 d ff ff 18 00 00 06 00 9 P 2 0000010 0 0 0 00 00 f8 00 00 ? 00 f0 00 ? 00 00 00 0000020 f1 2 ~ 00 dc > 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 0000030 01 00 06 00 f6 f6 f6 f6 f6 f6 f6 f6 f6 f6 f6 f6 0000040 80 00 ) \t x c2 = 0000050 F A T 3 2 f6 f6 f6 f6 f6 f6 Cheers, Sam From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 06:29:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 06:29:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 7431 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 06:29:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 7426 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 06:29:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 06:29:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6F8FE19B89; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 17:29:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2903919B81; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 17:29:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1156619B81; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 17:28:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Princeton.EDU (postoffice01.Princeton.EDU [128.112.129.75]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3564B19B7D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 17:28:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpserver1.Princeton.EDU (smtpserver1.Princeton.EDU [128.112.129.65]) by Princeton.EDU (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h63LSWpo024608 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 17:28:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Princeton.EDU (lane.Princeton.EDU [128.112.52.125]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtpserver1.Princeton.EDU (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h63LSV0k021535 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 17:28:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3F049FFF.5000204@Princeton.EDU> From: Martin Harriss User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] dos boot record manglin' References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 17:28:31 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) From the horses mouth: http://www.microsoft.com/hwdev/download/hardware/fatgen103.pdf Martin Sam wrote: > My laptop has three partitions: fat16, plan9, fat32. > I recently copied a tarfile from /n/ftp to > /n/c: to do some Windows work. I then halted > kfs and powered down. I may have unmounted /n/c: -- > I can't be certain. It was later in the evening before > I came back to actually do said work. > > Next boot, Windows didn't. Mounting the partition > in plan 9 fails with "unknown format." > > It appears that something stepped on the dos boot record > for both the fat16 and fat32 partitions. eg, fat16: > > term% dd -if /dev/sdC0/dos -bs 512 -count 1 | xd -c > 1+0 records in > 1+0 records out > 0000000 13 00 00 00 d ff ff 18 00 00 06 00 9 P 2 > 0000010 0 0 0 00 00 f8 ff 00 ? 00 f0 00 ? 00 00 00 > 0000020 c1 c0 > 00 80 00 ) I k 05 a0 00 O N A > 0000030 M E 00 F A T 1 6 3 c9 > (everything after this looks OK) > > Note the peculiarly placed 9P2000 at byte 13. > > I'm trying to come up to speed on the fat filesystem > format so I can re-establish the dos boot record fields > that have been stamped on. Can anyone offer some > help in this regard? > > For completeness, the dos boot record on the fat32 > partition looks like: > > term% dd -if /dev/sdC0/dos1 -bs 512 -count 1 | xd -c > 1+0 records in > 1+0 records out > 0000000 13 00 00 00 d ff ff 18 00 00 06 00 9 P 2 > 0000010 0 0 0 00 00 f8 00 00 ? 00 f0 00 ? 00 00 00 > 0000020 f1 2 ~ 00 dc > 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 > 0000030 01 00 06 00 f6 f6 f6 f6 f6 f6 f6 f6 f6 f6 f6 f6 > 0000040 80 00 ) \t x c2 = > 0000050 F A T 3 2 f6 f6 f6 f6 f6 f6 > > > Cheers, > > Sam > > From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 06:56:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 06:56:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 7929 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 06:56:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 7925 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 06:56:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 06:56:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B4C8219B8D; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 17:56:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0D03519B83; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 17:56:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EF61D19B75; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 17:55:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from epaphras.inhouse.cnm-vra.com (epaphras.cnm-vra.com [208.21.241.46]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 85CCD19B75 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 17:55:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by epaphras.inhouse.cnm-vra.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BD19BCE42; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 14:55:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Micah Stetson To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: <20030703215531.GA22516@epaphras.inhouse.cnm-vra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: [9fans] PDF errors Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 14:55:31 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Every once in a while, I come across a PDF that I can't view in Plan 9. I updated from sources today and gs says it's Aladdin Ghostscript 7.04. But it dies when I try to view any of the PDFs of Holzmann's Beyond Photography (http://spinroot.com/pico/). However, Aladdin Ghostscript 6.01 running on NetBSD doesn't have a problem with them. Does anybody know what's going on? Below is the exact message I get: term% gs front.pdf AFPL Ghostscript 7.04 (2002-01-31) Copyright (C) 2001 artofcode LLC, Benicia, CA. All rights reserved. This software comes with NO WARRANTY: see the file PUBLIC for details. Processing pages 1 through 3. Page 1 Loading NimbusSanL-Bold font from /sys/lib/ghostscript/font/n019004l.pfb... 2013176 615541 1662804 373049 1 done. Error: /invalidfileaccess in --.outputpage-- Operand stack: 1 true Execution stack: %interp_exit .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- false 1 %stopped_push 1 3 %oparray_pop --nostringval-- 2 1 3 --nostringval-- %for_pos_int_continue --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 0 9 %oparray_pop --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- Dictionary stack: --dict:1003/1123(ro)(G)-- --dict:0/20(G)-- --dict:71/200(L)-- --dict:71/200(L)-- --dict:97/127(ro)(G)-- --dict:214/230(ro)(G)-- --dict:19/24(L)-- --dict:4/6(L)-- --dict:19/20(L)-- Current allocation mode is local AFPL Ghostscript 7.04: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1 term% Thanks, Micah From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 07:51:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 07:51:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 8777 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 07:51:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 8773 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 07:51:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 07:51:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 93B2919B8B; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 18:51:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4BA8919B0A; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 18:51:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B807B19B52; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 18:50:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C94DF19A93 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 18:50:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h63MoTeH019929 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 16:50:29 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h63MoT44019925 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 16:50:29 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] fossil/flfmt -v problem Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 16:50:29 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) [ very long story short, i'm trying to recover from couple days ago's venti, using a score i got doing 'main: vac /archive/2003/0701' ] here's the problem: # fossil/flfmt -v e24ddc5eaea97b3ad947c9d5a3b5a796c548249b /dev/sdD0/fossil fs header block already exists; are you sure? [y/n]: y 48cbf63405e14adef602c44fd7e14cd6b5471793 0c273af08c6045a9ddc58840622453929e06c206 e457e4fdd6fb49bf7d4b932568aa964adc139ce1 fatal error: bad root: no qidSpace # From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 09:37:22 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 09:37:22 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12070 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 09:37:21 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12066 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 09:37:21 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 09:37:21 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7C12A19B83; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 20:37:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3849119B91; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 20:37:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 52D4E19B83; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 20:36:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from collyer.net (adsl-63-192-14-226.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.192.14.226]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 28B6519B6D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 20:36:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <06213ce1543aa7b03dd4f1aa74f08302@collyer.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] PowerPC Booting From: Geoff Collyer From: geoff@collyer.net In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 17:36:41 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I'm not claiming that it's impossibly hard to port Plan 9 to the Mac (and I'd be happy to have it running on more common systems, not just PCs and bitsys), just that it will take some work. I'd start by looking at a current Darwin release, though I have found that it takes a while to distill BSD and Linux code, especially drivers, to their essentials, since they tend to be excessively complex. As a recent example, 3ware's Linux driver for their IDE RAID controller is a 4,174 lines long (3,155 NCSL). That's over 74 pages, printed with pr; it's a short book. This is insane! It's just a bloody controller (and the hardware is supposed to be doing most of the work, as it should). The entire Unix V6 kernel was only 11,600 lines. Admittedly, the OpenBSD 3ware driver is just 1,550 lines, but that's still too big. It's also true that hardware is even more of a pain in the ass than it used to be, but over 4,000 lines to drive a disk controller is just bloat. As you've alluded, there's also a difference between having Plan 9 running on a particular Mac and having it running on all (or even just New World) Macs. For instance, for newer Macs, you'll need USB, USB keyboard and, for terminals, USB mouse support, unless you can get by with using the OpenFirmware routines. I also don't know if the existing Power PC ports of Plan 9 are prepared to cope with multiple processors, which isn't fatal, but it would be good to exploit a second processor on machines that have them. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 10:48:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 10:48:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15412 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 10:48:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15408 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 10:48:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 10:48:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5101719B9E; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 21:48:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 657B619B96; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 21:48:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3FCCE19B97; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 21:47:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-09.noos.net [212.198.2.80]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 559D419B95 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 21:47:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 77810312 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jul 2003 01:47:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.80 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 4 Jul 2003 01:47:38 -0000 Message-ID: <002701c341ce$35f939e0$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <200307031830.OAA05117@plg2.math.uwaterloo.ca> Subject: Re: [9fans] sam hacking - a couple of fixes that may apply t MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 03:47:21 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > But by double-clicking to the right of the text you pick up the entire > line, plus terminating new-line, right? you're assuming the command fits on one line. some of the stuff i construct in the command window is multi line, hence send is really useful. it is also consistant with the window manager. i don't like acme. it has some interesting ideas, but i can't use it. rob wrote in one of the sam papers (iirc) that most people don't use complex sam commands. i used to be like that, until i learnt the error of my ways, so now i construct fairly complex stuff and refine it till it's right. having 'perfect' undo means i can make a wild guess, try it, undo it if it's wrong, and loop until i have something that smashes multiple files into the shape i want them. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 10:59:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 10:59:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15950 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 10:59:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15946 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 10:59:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 10:59:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C45AF19A2A; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 21:59:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A97311999B; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 21:59:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 26C2719B9F; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 21:58:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mobydick.int.entrisphere.com (unknown [63.203.52.228]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 52E5019B96 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 21:58:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from entrisphere.com ([192.168.168.142]) by mobydick.int.entrisphere.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 3 Jul 2003 18:58:01 -0700 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Tad Hunt Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jul 2003 01:58:01.0015 (UTC) FILETIME=[B2CA6470:01C341CF] Subject: [9fans] more libc/power assembly bits Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 18:58:00 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Two more assembler goodies: strchr() and strlen(). NetBSD has an even more optimized strlen(). According to the comment at the top it originated in 'The PowerPC Compiler Writer's Guide', by Steve Hoxey, Faraydon Karim, Bill Hay and Hank Warren. (http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/src/lib/libc/arch/powerpc/string/strlen.S?rev=1.2) However, it would have been way too much work to convert the powerpc assembly source into qa(1) source. In any case, these ones should be faster than the C versions from the libc/port directory. -Tad # text/plain; name="strlen.s" [ strlen.s ] /usr/home/tad/R1.2.0/plan9/src/libc/power/strlen.s # text/plain; name="strchr.s" [ strchr.s ] /usr/home/tad/R1.2.0/plan9/src/libc/power/strchr.s From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 11:00:17 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 11:00:17 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 16004 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 11:00:17 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 16000 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 11:00:17 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 11:00:17 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5458C19BAA; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 22:00:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 61CD219BA4; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 22:00:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A675B19A04; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 21:59:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mobydick.int.entrisphere.com (unknown [63.203.52.228]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C9ACF1999B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 21:59:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from entrisphere.com ([192.168.168.142]) by mobydick.int.entrisphere.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 3 Jul 2003 18:59:01 -0700 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----- =_aaaaaaaaaa0" Content-ID: <24249.1057283924.0@entrisphere.com> From: Tad Hunt Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jul 2003 01:59:01.0295 (UTC) FILETIME=[D6B863F0:01C341CF] Subject: [9fans] more libc/power assembly bits (with attachments this time!) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 18:59:01 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <24249.1057283924.1@entrisphere.com> Two more assembler goodies: strchr() and strlen(). NetBSD has an even more optimized strlen(). According to the comment at the top it originated in 'The PowerPC Compiler Writer's Guide', by Steve Hoxey, Faraydon Karim, Bill Hay and Hank Warren. (http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/src/lib/libc/arch/powerpc/string/strlen.S?rev=1.2) However, it would have been way too much work to convert the powerpc assembly source into qa(1) source. In any case, these ones should be faster than the C versions from the libc/port directory. -Tad ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="strlen.s"; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <24249.1057283924.2@entrisphere.com> Content-Description: strlen.s TEXT strlen(SB), $0 MOVW R3, R4 SUB $1, R4 loop: MOVBZU 1(R4), R5 CMP R5, $0 BNE loop SUB R3, R4, R3 RETURN ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="strchr.s"; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <24249.1057283924.3@entrisphere.com> Content-Description: strchr.s TEXT strchr(SB), $0 MOVW R3, R4 MOVBZ v+7(FP), R6 SUB $1, R4 loop: MOVBZU 1(R4), R5 CMP R5, R6 BEQ found CMP R5, $0 BNE loop MOVW $0, R3 RETURN found: MOVW R4, R3 RETURN ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 11:08:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 11:08:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 16329 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 11:08:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 16325 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 11:08:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 11:08:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3B44119BA9; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 22:08:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0796919A1C; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 22:08:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6D45E1999B; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 22:07:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-08.noos.net [212.198.2.77]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 783DF19A1C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 22:07:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2911434 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jul 2003 02:07:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.77 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 4 Jul 2003 02:07:24 -0000 Message-ID: <007701c341d0$f937e9e0$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] how is it done on sources? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 04:07:08 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > 755 is rwxr-xr-x > 644 is rw-r--r-- my random theory is that _all_ the changes are applied (in some cases this works) rather than the minimal set. i'm assuming it builds a wstat from the line and sends it off. in 'allow' mode you shouldn't get any opposition. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 11:45:27 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 11:45:27 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 17942 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 11:45:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 17938 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 11:45:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 11:45:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 977E619BAE; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 22:45:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5427819BA2; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 22:45:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E680C19BA2; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 22:44:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E691619B84 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 22:44:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h642ifeH020174 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 20:44:41 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h642ifJm020170 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 20:44:41 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] how is it done on sources? In-Reply-To: <007701c341d0$f937e9e0$d2944251@insultant.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 20:44:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Fri, 4 Jul 2003, boyd, rounin wrote: > my random theory is that _all_ the changes are applied (in some > cases this works) rather than the minimal set. i'm assuming it builds > a wstat from the line and sends it off. > > in 'allow' mode you shouldn't get any opposition. > it's just weird and relatively inconsistent. the lowest common denominator that i got was that all files from (/386/bin /rc/bin /acme/bin) are complaining... i managed to "fuxx0r" (pardon my language) my venti while investigating where this'll take me. ended up learning more about venti/fossil than i wanted to (see my previous message -- that's where i'm at right now)... andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 12:02:27 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 12:02:27 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 18659 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 12:02:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 18655 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 12:02:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 12:02:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3738019BB3; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 23:02:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3AB8719B9C; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 23:02:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 441CD19B84; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 23:01:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from galapagos.cse.psu.edu (galapagos.cse.psu.edu [130.203.12.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id B201D19BA2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 23:01:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6014 invoked by uid 991); 4 Jul 2003 03:01:21 -0000 Message-ID: <20030704030121.6013.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] how is it done on sources? In-reply-to: References: Comments: In-reply-to andrey mirtchovski message dated "Thu, 03 Jul 2003 20:44:40 -0600." From: Scott Schwartz Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 23:01:21 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) | it's just weird and relatively inconsistent. the lowest common denominator | that i got was that all files from (/386/bin /rc/bin /acme/bin) are | complaining... Those are all union mounts, right? Maybe that's part of the explanation. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 12:24:19 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 12:24:19 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 19655 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 12:24:18 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 19651 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 12:24:18 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 12:24:18 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 725CF19BB5; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 23:24:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 28C1D19BA2; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 23:24:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9A7BC19BA7; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 23:23:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EA41419BA4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 23:23:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] fossil/flfmt -v problem In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 23:23:42 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thu Jul 3 18:51:22 EDT 2003, mirtchov@cpsc.ucalgary.ca wrote: > [ very long story short, i'm trying to recover from couple days ago's venti, > using a score i got doing 'main: vac /archive/2003/0701' ] > > here's the problem: > > > # fossil/flfmt -v e24ddc5eaea97b3ad947c9d5a3b5a796c548249b /dev/sdD0/fossil > fs header block already exists; are you sure? [y/n]: y > 48cbf63405e14adef602c44fd7e14cd6b5471793 > 0c273af08c6045a9ddc58840622453929e06c206 > e457e4fdd6fb49bf7d4b932568aa964adc139ce1 > fatal error: bad root: no qidSpace > # > Flfmt needs a score created by an archive snapshot, not a vac file (as I understand it). It's funny, I was working on making this work (i.e. using a vac score to initialise a filesystem) earlier in the week and 'sort of' have it working, but there are details needing to be done that I won't get to for a while. The particular detail you are sticking over here is that the max qid used in the vac file is held in a different place in a 'real' vac file (qid entry of the root directory entry) than in an archive snapshot (root metadata qidspace entry). From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 12:37:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 12:37:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20217 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 12:37:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20213 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 12:37:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 12:37:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BC4F219BBB; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 23:37:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3461719BA7; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 23:37:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 64DA719BA8; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 23:36:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5FFB519BA4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 23:36:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h643ZneH020267 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 21:35:49 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h643Zn6h020263 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 21:35:49 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] fossil/flfmt -v problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 21:35:49 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote: > Flfmt needs a score created by an archive snapshot, not a vac file > (as I understand it). > I read this in the man page, that's why I decided to go sufficiently back in time that I wouldn't hit anything in the fossil snaps (which go back 23 hours). My understanding was that the 'vac' command on the fossil console would give me a real, venti score... Now that I understand where I may be wrong, the question is 'how to initialize an empty fossil from a venti without knowing any scores?'. My plans to have the nightly 'snap -a' score mailed offsite were supposed to be implemented later. I just wasn't thinking I'd break things so early in the game. Maybe that's the key -- I wasn't thinking :) andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 12:55:58 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 12:55:58 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21001 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 12:55:47 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20973 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 12:55:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 12:55:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A81C019BC4; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 23:55:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6FBF219BC0; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 23:55:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9AF5919BBC; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 23:54:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E976A19BA2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 23:54:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Thu Jul 3 23:54:02 EDT 2003 Received: from 209.23.14.101 ([209.23.14.101]) by plan9; Thu Jul 3 23:53:59 EDT 2003 Message-ID: <1f599b06ef2b405c54d9dce309728e39@plan9.bell-labs.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? From: "Russ Cox" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 23:18:09 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I'm having some trouble rationalizing the extra > two byte size as documented in stat(5) BUGS. I > see how having size[2] as part of the stat layout > helps in parsing multiple directory entries > end-to-end in a read(5). Where I'm stuck is > why it's more consistent to add another one. The variable length fields in 9P2000 always have a two-byte length in front of them. So does the stat buffer. Tstat tag[2] stat[n] parses as you would expect given the notational conventions. Russ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 12:58:24 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 12:58:24 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21103 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 12:58:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21099 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 12:58:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 12:58:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 97D0919BBE; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 23:58:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2CD4619BA4; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 23:58:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6AEC519BA4; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 23:57:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D26DE19B7D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 23:57:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] fossil/flfmt -v problem In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 23:57:40 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thu Jul 3 23:37:21 EDT 2003, mirtchov@cpsc.ucalgary.ca wrote: > ... > Now that I understand where I may be wrong, the question is 'how to > initialize an empty fossil from a venti without knowing any scores?'. > ... Look back in the 9fans archives around March, there was a discussion of this I think and some scripts were posted to help if I remember correctly. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 13:38:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 13:38:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 23183 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 13:38:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 23179 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 13:38:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 13:38:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A347F19BC6; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 00:38:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 50FEA19BB7; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 00:38:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5829B19BB8; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 00:37:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 603A119A70 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 00:37:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h644bAeH020332 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 22:37:10 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h644bAg2020328 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 22:37:10 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] fossil/flfmt -v problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 22:37:10 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote: > Look back in the 9fans archives around March, there was a discussion of > this I think and some scripts were posted to help if I remember correctly. I saw the scripts (lastfossil and vacchain) however they don't help me much, since 'fossil/flfmt -v' with a wrong score destroyed my fossil partition. andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 13:41:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 13:41:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 23306 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 13:41:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 23302 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 13:41:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 13:41:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 63B9A19BBC; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 00:41:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 03D7E19BB8; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 00:41:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 81BC419BBC; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 00:40:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7FEFB19BB7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 00:40:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Fri Jul 4 00:40:00 EDT 2003 Received: from 209.23.14.138 ([209.23.14.138]) by plan9; Fri Jul 4 00:39:56 EDT 2003 Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] how is it done on sources? From: "Russ Cox" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-upbcnvyrizqtjphlqorgkvwcgb" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 00:38:12 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-upbcnvyrizqtjphlqorgkvwcgb Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit they're not all sys/sys on sources. do an ls -l and you'll see. they're sys/sys in the replica logs, which is what gets used to update your own machines. run replica/pull as a special user that is a member of group sys and drop the -u flag. that's the easiest way to update a fossil system. the second easiest is to allocate an allowed console using srv -A. --upas-upbcnvyrizqtjphlqorgkvwcgb Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Thu Jul 3 10:57:20 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Thu Jul 3 10:57:17 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5E2B919B2A; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:57:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D0EB319AF2; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:57:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 178F219AF2; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:56:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1B9E219AB5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:56:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h63EuTeH018899 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:56:29 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h63EuTZG018895 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:56:29 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] how is it done on sources? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:56:29 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) how do you manage to change all file owners to sys/sys on sources without running fossil in 'allow' mode? also, what is the difference between 755 and 644, as illustrated in this replica/pull snippet (why does 644 work, while 755 doesn't): a 386/bin/xmr 775 sys sys 1039758616 warning: cannot set uid on /n/boot/386/bin/xmr a 386/bin/xms 775 sys sys 1039758617 warning: cannot set uid on /n/boot/386/bin/xms a 386/bin/yacc 775 sys sys 1045538096 warning: cannot set uid on /n/boot/386/bin/yacc a 386/bin/zip 775 sys sys 1045538096 warning: cannot set uid on /n/boot/386/bin/zip a 386/include/ape/float.h 664 sys sys 969656988 a 386/include/ape/math.h 664 sys sys 1046282351 a 386/include/ape/stdarg.h 664 sys sys 944946040 a 386/include/ape/ureg.h 664 sys sys 944946041 a 386/include/u.h 664 sys sys 1042604326 a 386/include/ureg.h 664 sys sys 944946012 thanx, andrey --upas-upbcnvyrizqtjphlqorgkvwcgb-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 14:13:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 14:13:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 24826 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 14:13:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 24822 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 14:13:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 14:13:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B54B519BC3; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 01:13:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id ACA7819B9F; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 01:13:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 03F1919BA1; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 01:12:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz (clusterb.asuch.cas.cz [147.231.136.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 14D8619B9F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 01:12:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from picture ([147.231.139.42]) by XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 4 Jul 2003 07:12:38 +0200 Message-ID: <000501c341ea$e3125cd0$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> From: "pac" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jul 2003 05:12:38.0088 (UTC) FILETIME=[E2DE5480:01C341EA] Subject: [9fans] is this sufficient? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 07:12:38 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > You'll have to read the manual a little more carefully: > rm /mnt/cd/wd > seems necessary to seal the CD. > ++L i don't need to fixate the CD, just be sure that writing was successful (e.g., that the image fitted onto the disk). I'm quite happy with unfixated cd's. [ from man cdfs: Copy the tracks onto a blank CD inserted in the drive, and then fixate the disk as an audio CD. cp /tmp/songs/* /mnt/cd/wa rm /mnt/cd/wa ] ++pac --- Odchozí zpráva neobsahuje viry. Zkontrolováno antivirovým systémem AVG (http://www.grisoft.cz). Verze: 6.0.476 / Virová báze: 273 - datum vydání: 24.4.2003 From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 14:16:22 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 14:16:22 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 24973 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 14:16:22 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 24969 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 14:16:22 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 14:16:22 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3331619BCC; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 01:16:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EA3B219B9F; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 01:16:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B795919BB8; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 01:15:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgristroph-austin.ath.cx (cs24362-19.austin.rr.com [24.243.62.19]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E6D5219B6A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 01:14:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgr by rgristroph-austin.ath.cx with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19YIuI-0007bq-00; Fri, 04 Jul 2003 00:14:50 -0500 From: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org (Rob Ristroph) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: <87k7b3l42q.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> In-Reply-To: <87k7b3l42q.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> Message-ID: <873chmc1py.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> Lines: 11 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [9fans] Re: compiling a pcauth kernel Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: 04 Jul 2003 00:14:49 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_GNUS_UA version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I did a replica/pull and there is a different pcauth file, which has a bootdir section. I was able to compile a kernel just fine. The problem I reported may be gone, or may just not be exercised by the new kernel configuration file. --Rob P.S. I am now having a different problem, but I have to investigate further before I can post a useful message. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 17:42:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 17:42:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 3541 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 17:42:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 3537 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 17:42:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 17:42:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 662BA19BD0; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 04:42:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 82D5719BA0; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 04:42:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 28BB019B93; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 04:41:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp808.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp808.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.187]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 3929019B80 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 04:41:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from adsl-67-38-19-191.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (HELO ameritech.net) (dbailey27@ameritech.net@67.38.19.191 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 08:41:03 -0000 Message-ID: <3F054BDF.5010604@ameritech.net> From: northern snowfall User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020518 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Cc: dbailey27@ameritech.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] plan9 for powermac Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003 04:41:51 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Heyas, I've created a website for the Plan9 PowerMac port. For now it's just a branch from my homepage, though, maybe it will end up as more, I don't know. None the less, I am committed to getting plan9 on my Power Macintosh 5400/120. The website will display the progression of the project as it matures, showing devices in a tree based ASCII format. http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_/p9ppc/index.html Don http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 18:02:40 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 18:02:40 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 4831 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 18:02:39 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 4827 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 18:02:39 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 18:02:39 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B286A19B7C; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 05:02:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 354BA19B64; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 05:02:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C5F1019B50; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 05:01:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B29F719B50 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 05:01:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19YMQc-0006xb-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 04 Jul 2003 10:00:26 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: "Douglas A. Gwyn" Message-ID: <3F051817.3050207@null.net> Organization: University of Bath Computing Services, UK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200307031830.OAA05117@plg2.math.uwaterloo.ca>, <002701c341ce$35f939e0$d2944251@insultant.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] sam hacking - a couple of fixes that may apply t Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 08:59:53 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) boyd, rounin wrote: > rob wrote in one of the sam papers (iirc) that most people don't use > complex sam commands. i used to be like that, until i learnt the error > of my ways, so now i construct fairly complex stuff and refine it till > it's right. In BRL's MUVES project, one of our Makefile targets was a profiled source listing, i.e. execution counts (for a test run) alongside each source line. Since there was no tool on our Unix systems that did that, I cobbled one up as a combination of existing tools and a "sam" script that was several hundred characters long. Worked fine! I have a file of "macors" for sam; I open that file as one file within "sam", then snarf and send to execute when needed. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 18:02:48 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 18:02:48 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 4845 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 18:02:48 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 4840 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 18:02:48 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 18:02:48 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CB12F19B9A; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 05:02:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D536619B64; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 05:02:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0D65B19B52; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 05:01:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B26D119B50 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 05:01:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19YMQ6-0006wI-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 04 Jul 2003 09:59:54 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: "Douglas A. Gwyn" Message-ID: <3F04D755.3020906@null.net> Organization: University of Bath Computing Services, UK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1a6d4056b9f49a8aa2d7eed14d5c050a@mightycheese.com>, Subject: Re: [9fans] sam hacking - a couple of fixes that may apply to plan9 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 08:59:41 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Tad Hunt wrote: > Yes. Use paste if you don't want to send. Exactly. Please don't hack up sam's user interface. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 18:23:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 18:23:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 5529 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 18:23:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 5525 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 18:23:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 18:23:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 276AD19B7E; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 05:23:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5B7D319B6B; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 05:23:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B3CAB19B6B; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 05:22:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from larch (unknown [195.173.15.12]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E355819B5D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 05:21:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: steve.simon@snellwilcox.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] sam chatter Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 10:21:58 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi, I do have two changes for sam on my to-do list: Standardisation of the control sequence for carriage return - under plan9 its Ctrl-M whilst on the Windows version it is Ctrl-J and as I tend to work in very mixed enviroments this bites me, often; I know you can just cut and paste the character but typing is easier. Also the current Plan9 release has a review key to add to its view key, the older sams do not. These are on my to-do list (somewhere) -Steve From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 19:09:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 19:09:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 7715 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 19:09:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 7711 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 19:09:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 19:09:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 568F119B9B; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 06:09:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 390D719B8A; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 06:09:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3543A19B75; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 06:08:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-03.noos.net [212.198.2.72]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 54EF519B6F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 06:08:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21941468 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jul 2003 10:08:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.72 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 4 Jul 2003 10:08:19 -0000 Message-ID: <003401c34214$26cc2cc0$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <3F051817.3050207@null.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] sam hacking - a couple of fixes that may apply t MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:08:01 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I have a file of "macors" for sam; I open that file as one > file within "sam", then snarf and send to execute when > needed. i have a thing called 'samit', which B's itself, and contains useful stuff. from the command window i: !samit From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 19:43:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 19:43:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 8839 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 19:43:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 8835 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 19:43:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 19:43:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7DD3119B6F; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 06:43:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7036919B75; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 06:43:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7BD8F19B86; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 06:42:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz (clusterb.asuch.cas.cz [147.231.136.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8AF2019B6F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 06:42:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from picture ([147.231.139.42]) by XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:42:27 +0200 Message-ID: <000f01c34218$f6855f50$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> From: "pac" To: "9fans" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jul 2003 10:42:27.0589 (UTC) FILETIME=[F6548B50:01C34218] Subject: [9fans] survey Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:42:27 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) dear folks, i§m writing a paper introducing my "neXt" archive of plan9 software to biologists. would like to know YOUR opinion on comparison with selected other oses. hope youll take a minute to help me be less subjective. pls, put scores into the following table, 1=worst, 5=best. FEEL FREE TO ADD MORE LINES, if you wish ;-) Win Mac Sun SGI Linux/BSD Plan9 design modularity (as opposed to "monolithicity") networking security orientation to computing (as opposed to "office") extensibility/flexibility user friendliness sorry to bother, nice weekend, ++pac. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 20:02:23 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 20:02:23 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 9676 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 20:02:22 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 9672 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 20:02:22 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 20:02:22 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EF53919BAD; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 07:02:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D248319B98; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 07:02:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D2E6E19B99; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 07:01:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7B93919B8F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 07:01:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h64Apbnp026500 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:51:39 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h64ApYp4026499 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:51:34 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] survey Message-ID: <20030704125129.N16824@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <000f01c34218$f6855f50$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: <000f01c34218$f6855f50$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz>; from pac on Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 12:42:27PM +0200 Organization: Proxima Research & Development Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:51:30 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 12:42:27PM +0200, pac wrote: > > dear folks, > i§m writing a paper introducing my "neXt" archive of plan9 software to ^ this is no quote/apostrophe! > biologists. would like > to know YOUR opinion on comparison with selected other oses. hope youll take > a minute > to help me be less subjective. pls, put scores into the following table, > 1=worst, 5=best. > > FEEL FREE TO ADD MORE LINES, if you wish ;-) > I think you need to go the tick-box route: For each feature you probably want to rate the operating system in some fashion. Perhaps: > Win Mac Sun SGI Linux/BSD Plan9 > > design [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] > etc. And please don't offend anyone by merging the *BSDs with Linux. ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 20:13:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 20:13:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10005 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 20:13:21 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10001 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 20:13:21 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 20:13:21 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3CF8619BB2; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 07:13:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 683B319B9D; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 07:13:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 728D919BA5; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 07:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-08.noos.net [212.198.2.77]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8FDAD19B9D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 07:12:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3178816 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jul 2003 11:12:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.77 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 4 Jul 2003 11:12:19 -0000 Message-ID: <007301c3421d$1738f780$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <000f01c34218$f6855f50$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> <20030704125129.N16824@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Subject: Re: [9fans] survey MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:12:00 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I think you need to go the tick-box route: ... on an HTML page. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 22:38:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 22:38:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13365 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 22:38:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13361 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 22:38:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 22:38:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 95F3719BB4; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 09:38:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A5FAC19BA5; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 09:38:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5A6DF19BA5; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 09:37:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nautilus.escet.urjc.es (nautilus.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.207]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6F91C19B9D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 09:37:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] fossil/flfmt -v problem From: Fco.J.Ballesteros From: nemo@plan9.escet.urjc.es In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 15:37:33 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I saw the scripts (lastfossil and vacchain) however they don't help me much, > since 'fossil/flfmt -v' with a wrong score destroyed my fossil partition. I have a cron that prints (daily) the vacchain. Is there a better way? This is also what you're asking, if I understood correctly. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 22:52:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 22:52:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13624 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 22:52:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13618 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 22:52:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 22:52:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9C4AC19B9D; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 09:52:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6AB7E19BA1; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 09:52:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0DB5D19BA5; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 09:51:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1320019B9D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 09:51:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h64Dp0eH021124 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 07:51:00 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h64Dp0qf021120 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 07:51:00 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] fossil/flfmt -v problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 07:51:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) that's what i was about to implement before i managed to reformat my fossil partition. now that i know what's the best way to do it.... i wish i knew it couple of days earlier. i'm stuck with a fossil partition of which i know only a single vac score. the more i learn about venti the more i realize that a venti without a single score is pretty much useless -- one needs to know where the root block is -- so, a warning to all: keep your venti scores. andrey On Fri, 4 Jul 2003, Fco.J.Ballesteros wrote: > I have a cron that prints (daily) the vacchain. Is there a better way? > This is also what you're asking, if I understood correctly. > From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 22:52:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 22:52:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13634 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 22:52:39 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13630 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 22:52:38 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 22:52:38 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 867B019BBA; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 09:52:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3B75919BB0; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 09:52:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 664B819BA6; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 09:51:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from juice.thebigchoice.com (pc1-nott2-3-cust18.nott.cable.ntl.com [80.4.204.18]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 48D7019B9D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 09:51:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14899 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 13:51:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO proweb.co.uk) (192.168.1.100) by juice.thebigchoice.com with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 13:51:07 -0000 Message-ID: <3F05864B.1080500@proweb.co.uk> From: matt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] inferno file servers on topic? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003 14:51:07 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) now it seems that plan9 is capable of importing Styx servers to it's namespace does that mean that people here are interested in home-brewed servers (i.e. mine) ? The particular reason I mention it is my latest server tabfs It takes a tab separated file and turns it into a directory of directories (one per row) of files (one per colum) The directory names can be numbered or taken from the primary key (via the supplied primary_key_index option) such that the file name email homepage matt matt@proweb.co.uk http://www.proweb.co.uk/~matt boyd boyd@insultant.net http://www.insultant.net would be % ls /data/0/*/* /data/0/matt/name /data/0/matt/email /data/0/matt/homepage /data/0/boyd/name /data/0/boyd/email /data/0/boyd/homepage % cat /data/0/matt/homepage http://www.proweb.co.uk/~matt My post to the Inferno mailing list is here : http://www.topica.com/lists/inferno/read/message.html?mid=806782871&sort=d&start=610 It still needs some work (the options are hardcoded atm. for instance, and "new" works in the wrong way) But I'm just exploring the concept to see if it's worth going with. I think it's going to be heavy on memory, all the data is stored in memory and it uses the styxservers helper which (presumably) keeps all the filenames in memory too. I'm about to throw a few hundred megs of httpd logs at it to see what happens From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 4 23:17:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 4 23:17:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 14024 invoked by uid 1020); 4 Jul 2003 23:17:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 14020 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2003 23:17:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 4 Jul 2003 23:17:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 61C8319BC0; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 10:17:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B639219BB0; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 10:17:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9F70119BA1; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 10:16:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BD6C119BAF for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 10:16:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19YRFF-0006F7-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 04 Jul 2003 15:09:01 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Ralph Corderoy Message-ID: <1eda.3f056faa.da6d1@blake.inputplus.co.uk> Organization: InputPlus Ltd. References: <3EFF1A96.8010201@acm.org>, <1056910273.2840.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Subject: Re: [9fans] 'find' Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 14:08:49 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi Jack, > cat foo | grep pattern > > namely because when I change my mind I've always found it easier to > change the end of a line rather than some arbitrary section of the > middle Take your pick. grep pattern ; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 10:28:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foible.proxima.alt.za (prawn.iba.co.za [192.168.30.22]) by sparkle.iba.co.za (8.11.7/8.11.5) with SMTP id h64ERnb12492 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 16:27:59 +0200 (SAST) Message-ID: <77da6dc262ebb960e06310ac8a4841ac@proxima.alt.za> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: lucio@proxima.alt.za MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.4.3(snapshot 20030221) (sparkle) Subject: [9fans] Venti for Fossil Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 16:27:51 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I am attempting to set up Fossil reliably, but I'm encountering some stumbling blocks. I have one incidental question, first of all: does not setting /env/venti cause Fossil to omit the Venti interactions? That aside, I have configured a single partition for Venti arenas: --rw-r----- S 0 proxima proxima 2146770944 Jul 3 10:57 sd01/v.arena with --rw-r----- S 0 proxima proxima 209715200 Jul 3 10:57 sd00/v.idx0 --rw-r----- S 0 proxima proxima 209715200 Jul 3 10:57 sd00/v.idx1 for the index. The following commands: venti/fmtarenas arena. /dev/sd01/v.arena venti/fmtisect isect.0 /dev/sd00/v.idx0 venti/fmtisect isect.1 /dev/sd00/v.idx1 produce results along the following lines: clearing the partition configuring /dev/sd01/v.arena with arenas=3 for a total storage of bytes=2146435072 and directory bytes=65536 adding arena arena.0 at [335872,537206784) adding arena arena.1 at [537206784,1074077696) adding arena arena.2 at [1074077696,1610948608) clearing the partition configuring index section isect.0 with space for index config bytes=65536 clearing the partition configuring index section isect.1 with space for index config bytes=65536 using 51118 buckets of 51118; div=84021 which I find a little worrying, index-size-wise. Starting venti is surprising: venti/venti -c venti.conf -B 1m -C 1m -I 1m -w -a tcp!127.1!venti which returns (note the different numbers): add arena arena.0 at [1048576,537903104) add arena arena.1 at [537903104,1074757632) add arena arena.2 at [1074757632,1611612160) configured index=main with arenas=3 and storage=1610563584 Whether this explains the problems I have encountered with archive snapshots (lost blocks, but I also saw some I/O errors :-(, I would prefer to ask more competent people. I'm appending the script I use to set up Venti and Fossil from scratch. May it be useful to others as well as attract any improvements (and land on the WIKI, if really useful). (I have been playing a bit, trying to produce reproducible results, but I have encountered too many difficulties, so the script that follows may not be exactly what I used last. It ought to be pretty close, though.) ---- cut here ---- #!/bin/rc cd /sys/lib/sysconfig/huddle/init venti/fmtarenas arena. /dev/sd01/v.arena venti/fmtisect isect.0 /dev/sd00/v.idx0 venti/fmtisect isect.1 /dev/sd00/v.idx1 venti/fmtindex venti.conf venti/venti -c venti.conf -B 1m -C 1m -I 1m -w -a tcp!127.1!venti venti=tcp!127.1!venti echo -n '(venti)' Sleeping...; sleep 30; echo echo y | fossil/flfmt /dev/sd01/fossil echo -n '(flfmt)' Sleeping...; sleep 5; echo fossil/fossil -c '. flauth' echo -n '(fossil)' Sleeping...; sleep 5; echo con -l /srv/fscons << EOF create /active/adm adm adm d775 EOF mount -c /srv/fossil /n/fossil sed 's/^([^:]+):([^:]+)/\2:\2/' /adm/users > /n/fossil/adm/users con -l /srv/fscons << EOF users -r /active/adm/users EOF 9fs kfs disk/mkfs -a -s /n/kfs /sys/lib/sysconfig/proto/allproto | disk/mkext -u -d /n/fossil con -l /srv/fscons << EOF users -w EOF echo 'Done!' ---- cut here ---- flauth is, very simply: ---- cut here ---- srv -p fscons srv fossil fsys main config /dev/sd01/fossil fsys main open -AWP fsys main ---- cut here ---- venti.conf is: ---- cut here ---- index main isect /dev/sd00/v.idx0 isect /dev/sd00/v.idx1 arenas /dev/sd01/v.arena ---- cut here ---- and the output, for reference: - Omitted - Things are too far out of kilt! - ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 5 00:37:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 5 00:37:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15598 invoked by uid 1020); 5 Jul 2003 00:37:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15594 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2003 00:37:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 5 Jul 2003 00:37:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1B7B819B67; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 11:37:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9091A19BA6; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 11:37:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0E19919A75; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 11:36:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.74.5]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 26B7D19B67 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 11:36:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cisco.com (144.254.74.60) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 04 Jul 2003 17:36:19 +0200 Received: from cisco.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ams-msg-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h64FXxPZ026025 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 17:33:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from dfawcus@localhost) by cisco.com (8.8.8/2.6/Cisco List Logging/8.8.8) id QAA03935 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 16:36:03 +0100 (BST) From: Derek Fawcus To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] sam hacking - a couple of fixes that may apply t Message-ID: <20030704163603.B1374@edinburgh.cisco.com> References: <3F051817.3050207@null.net> <003401c34214$26cc2cc0$d2944251@insultant.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <003401c34214$26cc2cc0$d2944251@insultant.net>; from boyd@insultant.net on Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 12:08:01PM +0200 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 16:36:03 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 12:08:01PM +0200, boyd, rounin wrote: > i have a thing called 'samit', which B's itself, and contains useful stuff. Speaking of B, one other thing I noticed wrt to the unix (X11) version is that the pipe for B is exported by samterm not sam. This means that if they are running on seperate machines, B is not so convenient to use - i.e. it can't be used as say "B *.h' and do what you'd like. DF From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 5 00:43:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 5 00:43:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15674 invoked by uid 1020); 5 Jul 2003 00:43:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15670 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2003 00:43:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 5 Jul 2003 00:43:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9891019B6B; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 11:43:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B42F319BAF; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 11:43:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E004D19B69; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 11:42:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.74.5]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0367619A75 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 11:42:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cisco.com (144.254.74.60) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 04 Jul 2003 17:42:48 +0200 Received: from cisco.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ams-msg-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h64FeTg2026907 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 17:40:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from dfawcus@localhost) by cisco.com (8.8.8/2.6/Cisco List Logging/8.8.8) id QAA04130 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 16:42:33 +0100 (BST) From: Derek Fawcus To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] sam chatter Message-ID: <20030704164233.C1374@edinburgh.cisco.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from steve.simon@snellwilcox.com on Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 10:21:58AM +0100 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 16:42:33 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 10:21:58AM +0100, steve.simon@snellwilcox.com wrote: > > Also the current Plan9 release has a review key > to add to its view key, the older sams do not. If you're referring to the scroll back key binding's then these exist in the '94 copy of sam for X11 - bound to XK_Up and XK_Prior. DF From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 5 00:55:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 5 00:55:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15829 invoked by uid 1020); 5 Jul 2003 00:55:23 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15825 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2003 00:55:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 5 Jul 2003 00:55:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 972BF19BBF; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 11:55:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1AE5319B7A; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 11:55:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5190E19BA6; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 11:54:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5F00919B69 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 11:54:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] PDF errors In-Reply-To: <20030703215531.GA22516@epaphras.inhouse.cnm-vra.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-qzddvqezfuxqeitscxxucxwguz" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 11:54:22 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-qzddvqezfuxqeitscxxucxwguz Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We're currently up to AFPL Ghostscript 8.00 (2002-11-21) That seems to work. I'll make sure it finds its way to sources, though it make take a while, I'm on a very flakey ppp link this week. --upas-qzddvqezfuxqeitscxxucxwguz Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Thu Jul 3 17:56:24 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Thu Jul 3 17:56:21 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 110FF19B8C; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 17:56:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B43B019B84; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 17:56:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EF61D19B75; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 17:55:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from epaphras.inhouse.cnm-vra.com (epaphras.cnm-vra.com [208.21.241.46]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 85CCD19B75 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 17:55:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by epaphras.inhouse.cnm-vra.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BD19BCE42; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 14:55:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Micah Stetson To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: <20030703215531.GA22516@epaphras.inhouse.cnm-vra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: [9fans] PDF errors Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 14:55:31 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Every once in a while, I come across a PDF that I can't view in Plan 9. I updated from sources today and gs says it's Aladdin Ghostscript 7.04. But it dies when I try to view any of the PDFs of Holzmann's Beyond Photography (http://spinroot.com/pico/). However, Aladdin Ghostscript 6.01 running on NetBSD doesn't have a problem with them. Does anybody know what's going on? Below is the exact message I get: term% gs front.pdf AFPL Ghostscript 7.04 (2002-01-31) Copyright (C) 2001 artofcode LLC, Benicia, CA. All rights reserved. This software comes with NO WARRANTY: see the file PUBLIC for details. Processing pages 1 through 3. Page 1 Loading NimbusSanL-Bold font from /sys/lib/ghostscript/font/n019004l.pfb... 2013176 615541 1662804 373049 1 done. Error: /invalidfileaccess in --.outputpage-- Operand stack: 1 true Execution stack: %interp_exit .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- false 1 %stopped_push 1 3 %oparray_pop --nostringval-- 2 1 3 --nostringval-- %for_pos_int_continue --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 0 9 %oparray_pop --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- Dictionary stack: --dict:1003/1123(ro)(G)-- --dict:0/20(G)-- --dict:71/200(L)-- --dict:71/200(L)-- --dict:97/127(ro)(G)-- --dict:214/230(ro)(G)-- --dict:19/24(L)-- --dict:4/6(L)-- --dict:19/20(L)-- Current allocation mode is local AFPL Ghostscript 7.04: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1 term% Thanks, Micah --upas-qzddvqezfuxqeitscxxucxwguz-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 5 01:01:53 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 5 01:01:53 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15935 invoked by uid 1020); 5 Jul 2003 01:01:38 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15931 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2003 01:01:37 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 5 Jul 2003 01:01:37 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BE17819B7A; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:01:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4B14919BB9; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:01:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 20C7A19BA6; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:00:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athena.softcardsystems.com (mail.softcardsystems.com [12.34.136.114]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 63B6619B69 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:00:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athena (athena [12.34.136.114]) by athena.softcardsystems.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h64F4ofw006066 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 11:04:50 -0400 From: Sam X-Sender: To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? In-Reply-To: <1f599b06ef2b405c54d9dce309728e39@plan9.bell-labs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 11:04:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > The variable length fields in 9P2000 always have > a two-byte length in front of them. So does the > stat buffer. Oh, I see. That does make sense. Thank you. I failed to make the connection that the stat buffer itself is considered a variable length field (including the size). One last niggle -- intro(5), paragraph 4, sentence 3 could stand to have "of larger or" removed since the 13 byte w?qid doesn't have a two-byte size. Just curious, but why isn't data in Rread and Twrite a variable length field with a two-byte count? Count was two bytes in 2nd Ed 9P; what was the motivating push for four bytes? I suppose it does allow you to reserve count values ~0 through ~0-6 for special meaning, though this seems unexploited. Cheers, Sam From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 5 01:44:44 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 5 01:44:44 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 16471 invoked by uid 1020); 5 Jul 2003 01:44:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 16467 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2003 01:44:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 5 Jul 2003 01:44:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 177B519AA9; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:44:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8400519BB9; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:44:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EBFF519AA9; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:43:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6470F199BF for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:42:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] fossil/flfmt -v problem In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:42:54 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Fri Jul 4 09:52:25 EDT 2003, mirtchov@cpsc.ucalgary.ca wrote: > ... > block is -- so, a warning to all: keep your venti scores. > ... a console with real paper in it makes an excellent log. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 5 02:15:44 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 5 02:15:44 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 16805 invoked by uid 1020); 5 Jul 2003 02:15:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 16801 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2003 02:15:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 5 Jul 2003 02:15:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8CBA419BC8; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:15:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C700319BC5; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:15:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5C4E219BAC; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:14:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.mightycheese.com (mail.mightycheese.com [209.61.186.18]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A2B6B19BB6 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:14:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [216.239.45.4] (HELO glenda.corp.google.com) by mail.mightycheese.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 696283 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 04 Jul 2003 12:21:32 -0500 Message-ID: <44e997e179c114d5d75e0b4b5fd0ed5a@mightycheese.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? From: "rob pike, esq." In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 10:13:37 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Just curious, but why isn't data in Rread and Twrite > a variable length field with a two-byte count? Count was > two bytes in 2nd Ed 9P; what was the motivating push > for four bytes? 65536 is not a very big number in modern i/o systems. -rob From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 5 02:18:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 5 02:18:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 16832 invoked by uid 1020); 5 Jul 2003 02:18:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 16828 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2003 02:18:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 5 Jul 2003 02:18:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6B5CE19A19; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:18:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 17D9119A31; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:18:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BE66D199E3; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:17:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nautilus.escet.urjc.es (nautilus.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.207]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 67A8719999 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:17:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <17e332b983006a47f53d99520cdb87da@plan9.escet.urjc.es> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] fossil/flfmt -v problem From: Fco.J.Ballesteros From: nemo@plan9.escet.urjc.es In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-wvpgqzpekhyewtrkfxjtxezltk" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 19:17:18 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-wvpgqzpekhyewtrkfxjtxezltk Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I use a printer. When I said a cron to print vac scores I did actually mean "print" :-) (no joke, really). --upas-wvpgqzpekhyewtrkfxjtxezltk Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by aquamar; Fri Jul 4 18:44:35 MDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A9B1D19BAC; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:44:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8400519BB9; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:44:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EBFF519AA9; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:43:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6470F199BF for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:42:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] fossil/flfmt -v problem In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:42:54 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Fri Jul 4 09:52:25 EDT 2003, mirtchov@cpsc.ucalgary.ca wrote: > ... > block is -- so, a warning to all: keep your venti scores. > ... a console with real paper in it makes an excellent log. --upas-wvpgqzpekhyewtrkfxjtxezltk-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 5 02:19:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 5 02:19:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 16839 invoked by uid 1020); 5 Jul 2003 02:19:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 16835 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2003 02:19:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 5 Jul 2003 02:19:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 64A0019AFB; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:19:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 314FE19BB6; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:19:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6376619A26; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:18:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rapido.vitanuova.com (unknown [62.254.170.97]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id ECB3E19A76 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:18:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <63090fce9e1be3b8bc05488eefe1e15f@vitanuova.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] fossil/flfmt -v problem From: rog@vitanuova.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 18:21:44 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > a console with real paper in it makes an excellent log. but... watch out, as a venti score is a dangerous thing. given a venti archive score and access to a venti server, you've got access to all data in the filesystem, regardless of permissions or ownership. i wonder whether it might be sensible to print venti scores blinded with some private key, or something along that sort of line? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 5 02:21:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 5 02:21:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 16868 invoked by uid 1020); 5 Jul 2003 02:21:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 16864 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2003 02:21:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 5 Jul 2003 02:21:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8F52219999; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:21:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3026219A76; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:21:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id F0ADD19A25; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:20:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nautilus.escet.urjc.es (nautilus.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.207]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 905FC19999 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:20:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] fossil/flfmt -v problem From: Fco.J.Ballesteros From: nemo@plan9.escet.urjc.es In-Reply-To: <63090fce9e1be3b8bc05488eefe1e15f@vitanuova.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-mrowvfsuczroknnyepmayjtxzw" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 19:20:25 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-mrowvfsuczroknnyepmayjtxzw Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I print them on a printer sitting in a locked room. If they break the room they already could break the servers, sic. --upas-mrowvfsuczroknnyepmayjtxzw Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by aquamar; Fri Jul 4 19:19:31 MDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B6C4019A25; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:19:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 314FE19BB6; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:19:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6376619A26; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:18:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rapido.vitanuova.com (unknown [62.254.170.97]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id ECB3E19A76 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:18:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <63090fce9e1be3b8bc05488eefe1e15f@vitanuova.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] fossil/flfmt -v problem From: rog@vitanuova.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 18:21:44 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > a console with real paper in it makes an excellent log. but... watch out, as a venti score is a dangerous thing. given a venti archive score and access to a venti server, you've got access to all data in the filesystem, regardless of permissions or ownership. i wonder whether it might be sensible to print venti scores blinded with some private key, or something along that sort of line? --upas-mrowvfsuczroknnyepmayjtxzw-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 5 02:26:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 5 02:26:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 16969 invoked by uid 1020); 5 Jul 2003 02:26:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 16965 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2003 02:26:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 5 Jul 2003 02:26:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 505FA19A26; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:26:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AC9C119BB0; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:26:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1557C19A25; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:25:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nautilus.escet.urjc.es (nautilus.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.207]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7102E1999B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:25:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <6d2ffb2a7a5b8f83bbe58d828efb10a6@plan9.escet.urjc.es> From: Fco.J.Ballesteros From: nemo@plan9.escet.urjc.es To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] fossil/flfmt -v problem In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-opqpvmyrmiymkywadqjqyevbgo" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 19:25:31 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-opqpvmyrmiymkywadqjqyevbgo Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Perhaps an alternative would be to keep the fossil vacs logged in a separate block in the fossil (perhaps venti) disk and keep that block as a circular log. That way we could avoid printing the vacs; you could cat the log to recover a fossil particion. --upas-opqpvmyrmiymkywadqjqyevbgo Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by aquamar; Fri Jul 4 19:21:34 MDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A7B2519BB0; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:21:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3026219A76; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:21:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id F0ADD19A25; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:20:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nautilus.escet.urjc.es (nautilus.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.207]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 905FC19999 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:20:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] fossil/flfmt -v problem From: Fco.J.Ballesteros From: nemo@plan9.escet.urjc.es In-Reply-To: <63090fce9e1be3b8bc05488eefe1e15f@vitanuova.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-mrowvfsuczroknnyepmayjtxzw" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 19:20:25 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-mrowvfsuczroknnyepmayjtxzw Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I print them on a printer sitting in a locked room. If they break the room they already could break the servers, sic. --upas-mrowvfsuczroknnyepmayjtxzw Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by aquamar; Fri Jul 4 19:19:31 MDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B6C4019A25; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:19:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 314FE19BB6; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:19:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6376619A26; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:18:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rapido.vitanuova.com (unknown [62.254.170.97]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id ECB3E19A76 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:18:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <63090fce9e1be3b8bc05488eefe1e15f@vitanuova.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] fossil/flfmt -v problem From: rog@vitanuova.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 18:21:44 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > a console with real paper in it makes an excellent log. but... watch out, as a venti score is a dangerous thing. given a venti archive score and access to a venti server, you've got access to all data in the filesystem, regardless of permissions or ownership. i wonder whether it might be sensible to print venti scores blinded with some private key, or something along that sort of line? --upas-mrowvfsuczroknnyepmayjtxzw-- --upas-opqpvmyrmiymkywadqjqyevbgo-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 5 02:44:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 5 02:44:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 17206 invoked by uid 1020); 5 Jul 2003 02:44:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 17202 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2003 02:44:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 5 Jul 2003 02:44:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 16038199E3; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:44:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9B10119BC2; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:44:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C81D719B69; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:43:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rapido.vitanuova.com (unknown [62.254.170.97]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E504B199E3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:43:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <110409d50adfb0f389e9616d7d077100@vitanuova.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] fossil/flfmt -v problem From: rog@vitanuova.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 18:46:54 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I print them on a printer sitting in a locked room. If they break the > room they already could break the servers, sic. it has to be said, though, that it's likely to be considerably easier to scribble down 40 hex digits while the room is temporarily unlocked than to break in to the server and steal all the data there and then... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 5 09:56:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 5 09:56:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 24431 invoked by uid 1020); 5 Jul 2003 09:56:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 24426 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2003 09:56:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 5 Jul 2003 09:56:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B673F19BD8; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 20:56:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E172D19BD2; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 20:56:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 13AC119BCF; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 20:55:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 65F0F19A7F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 20:55:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA24531 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 20:55:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h650tu701183 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 20:55:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307050055.h650tu701183@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] looking for shell account on plan9 for porting multitail In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 03 Jul 2003 09:36:22 GMT." <3efee8ae$0$49100$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003 20:55:55 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Huh; I wrote a program I called multitail back in 1998. It was similar in nature, but used much simpler interfaces; basically, it just tail'ed more than one file at a time. - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 5 11:18:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 5 11:18:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27385 invoked by uid 1020); 5 Jul 2003 11:18:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27381 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2003 11:18:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 5 Jul 2003 11:18:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 00FD219BDA; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 22:18:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7B4B919BDA; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 22:18:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6B89519BDB; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 22:17:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ar.aichi-u.ac.jp (ar.aichi-u.ac.jp [202.250.160.40]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3C82E19BD9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 22:17:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ar.aichi-u.ac.jp ([61.211.130.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 5 11:17:50 JST 2003 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed From: Kenji Arisawa To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Subject: [9fans] rc of Unix Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 11:17:49 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_APPLEMAIL version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hello, bash$ rc ; bash$ rc ; read read not found ; What should I do for "read" in Unix rc ? Kenji Arisawa From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 5 11:35:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 5 11:35:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27890 invoked by uid 1020); 5 Jul 2003 11:35:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27886 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2003 11:35:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 5 Jul 2003 11:35:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CDF2619BE5; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 22:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B49FC19BDE; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 22:35:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2E6E619BDF; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 22:34:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wmail.atlantic.net (wmail.atlantic.net [209.208.0.84]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 540BD19A66 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 22:34:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10780 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2003 01:32:24 -0000 Received: from cpe-203-51-78-31.nsw.bigpond.net.au (HELO cc77109e) (203.51.78.31) by wmail.atlantic.net with SMTP; 5 Jul 2003 01:32:24 -0000 Message-ID: <00d001c3429d$e5cbc020$c901a8c0@cc77109e> From: "Bruce Ellis" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] rc of Unix Organization: www.chunder.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 12:33:59 +1000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) sed 1q ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenji Arisawa" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 12:17 PM Subject: [9fans] rc of Unix > Hello, > > bash$ rc > ; bash$ rc > ; read > read not found > ; > > What should I do for "read" in Unix rc ? > > Kenji Arisawa From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 5 13:41:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 5 13:41:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 31708 invoked by uid 1020); 5 Jul 2003 13:41:23 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 31704 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2003 13:41:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 5 Jul 2003 13:41:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 739BE19BE8; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 00:41:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8704519BAC; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 00:41:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 05A1219BAC; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 00:40:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from galapagos.cse.psu.edu (galapagos.cse.psu.edu [130.203.12.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 80C3519A98 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 00:40:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14257 invoked by uid 991); 5 Jul 2003 04:40:18 -0000 Message-ID: <20030705044018.14256.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Scott Schwartz Subject: [9fans] sam for unix Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 00:40:18 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Folks, I've ported the 4e sam (but not samterm) to unix. This port also uses Russ' port of libutf and libfmt (with one patch). In the interest of consolidation, I'd be be happy if Russ would add this sam to his collection. Labs Guys: should I put this on a web page, or should I send it to you? If it could be released with the same licence as the netlib sam that might make people happy. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 5 21:16:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 5 21:16:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 6287 invoked by uid 1020); 5 Jul 2003 21:16:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 6283 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2003 21:16:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 5 Jul 2003 21:16:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4B08219BF0; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 08:16:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 178B919BE6; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 08:16:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D188219BE4; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 08:15:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ar.aichi-u.ac.jp (ar.aichi-u.ac.jp [202.250.160.40]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8788E19BC2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 08:15:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ar.aichi-u.ac.jp ([61.211.130.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 5 21:15:40 JST 2003 Subject: Re: [9fans] rc of Unix Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Kenji Arisawa To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <00d001c3429d$e5cbc020$c901a8c0@cc77109e> Message-Id: <6496F535-AEE2-11D7-B36C-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 21:15:40 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_APPLEMAIL version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hello, I said: > bash$ rc > ; bash$ rc > ; read > read not found > ; > > What should I do for "read" in Unix rc ? > Ellis: > sed 1q Thinks, Ellis. However "sed 1q" behaves somewhat differently. In the bellow my input sequence are: aaa bbb ccc ddd Plan 9 read: cpu% read; read aaa aaa bbb bbb cpu% Unix "sed 1q": bash$ rc ; sed 1q; sed 1q aaa bbb aaa ccc ddd ccc ; Kenji Arisawa From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 5 22:01:24 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 5 22:01:24 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 6811 invoked by uid 1020); 5 Jul 2003 22:01:23 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 6807 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2003 22:01:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 5 Jul 2003 22:01:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 045AA19BF2; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 09:01:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C0C3919BE6; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 09:01:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A6B8219BEA; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 09:00:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CF88D19BE3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 09:00:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <13445a642e515dcb12894281b4c18acb@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] sam for unix In-Reply-To: <20030705044018.14256.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-obglscxsdfuxkbftxykxnmnvua" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 09:00:46 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-obglscxsdfuxkbftxykxnmnvua Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'ld like to stick it on our site. --upas-obglscxsdfuxkbftxykxnmnvua Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Sat Jul 5 00:41:20 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Sat Jul 5 00:41:18 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E694719BE6; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 00:41:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 75F0719B69; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 00:41:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 05A1219BAC; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 00:40:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from galapagos.cse.psu.edu (galapagos.cse.psu.edu [130.203.12.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 80C3519A98 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 00:40:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14257 invoked by uid 991); 5 Jul 2003 04:40:18 -0000 Message-ID: <20030705044018.14256.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Scott Schwartz Subject: [9fans] sam for unix Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 00:40:18 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Folks, I've ported the 4e sam (but not samterm) to unix. This port also uses Russ' port of libutf and libfmt (with one patch). In the interest of consolidation, I'd be be happy if Russ would add this sam to his collection. Labs Guys: should I put this on a web page, or should I send it to you? If it could be released with the same licence as the netlib sam that might make people happy. --upas-obglscxsdfuxkbftxykxnmnvua-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 5 23:01:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 5 23:01:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 7796 invoked by uid 1020); 5 Jul 2003 23:01:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 7792 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2003 23:01:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 5 Jul 2003 23:01:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1BBF219BF6; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 10:01:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E4BFE19BED; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 10:01:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 35EB619BEE; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 10:00:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-09.noos.net [212.198.2.80]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5578119BE6 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 10:00:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 80667030 invoked by uid 0); 5 Jul 2003 14:00:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.80 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 5 Jul 2003 14:00:45 -0000 Message-ID: <002701c342fd$cf627080$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <6496F535-AEE2-11D7-B36C-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> Subject: Re: [9fans] rc of Unix MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 16:00:36 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) i used rc on ultrix for 2+ years and i never really ran into a problem. yes, sed 1q is different to to plan 9's read 'cos sed 1q discards the whole input stream whereas read just takes the first line (preserving the the rest of the input stream). i don't remember how i avoided this problem, but it probably involved pipe trickery and awk. it depends on the problem. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 6 02:47:41 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 6 02:47:41 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11027 invoked by uid 1020); 6 Jul 2003 02:47:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11023 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2003 02:47:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 6 Jul 2003 02:47:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3788319B99; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 13:47:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3505819AB3; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 13:47:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B437E19AB4; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 13:46:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1D18F19AB1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 13:46:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [9fans] rc of Unix From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 13:45:58 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Guys, read is not a hard program to write. Copy the plan 9 one or write your own. Should have taken a lot less time than these messages about sed 1q. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 6 03:35:38 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 6 03:35:38 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11664 invoked by uid 1020); 6 Jul 2003 03:35:37 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11660 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2003 03:35:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 6 Jul 2003 03:35:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4D01A19AB3; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 14:35:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0AFF219AC4; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 14:35:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 573C319AB8; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 14:34:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9A29419AB3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 14:34:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13681 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 14:34:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h65IYu704913 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 14:34:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307051834.h65IYu704913@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] sam chatter In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 04 Jul 2003 10:21:58 BST." From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 14:34:56 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Perhaps this will seem sacreligous, but I'd like to see the following changes in sam, myself: (1) Dragging below the boundary of the current window should cause the window to scroll, selecting new text as it appears, as it does in acme. (2) The system and sam snarf buffers should be merged. (3) Unix sam's samterm interface should be updated to look like the (much more asthetically pleasing) Plan 9 version. By this, I mean in terms of color schemes, et al. (4) The interface should support mouse chording ala acme and rio. Personally, I think this would make sam much more usable and attractive, particularly under Unix. - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 6 03:40:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 6 03:40:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11721 invoked by uid 1020); 6 Jul 2003 03:40:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11716 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2003 03:40:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 6 Jul 2003 03:40:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 24C9719B4D; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 14:40:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D0DD519AB4; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 14:40:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3236819ABC; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 14:39:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7965C19AB4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 14:38:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14096 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 14:38:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h65Icn704965 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 14:38:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307051838.h65Icn704965@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] 'find' In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 04 Jul 2003 14:08:49 GMT." <1eda.3f056faa.da6d1@blake.inputplus.co.uk> From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 14:38:49 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Take your pick. > > grep pattern grep ; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 14:45:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [216.239.45.4] (HELO glenda.corp.google.com) by mail.mightycheese.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 696698 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Sat, 05 Jul 2003 13:52:37 -0500 Message-ID: <8a9325cdd68f97de578300418820a09d@mightycheese.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] sam chatter From: "rob pike, esq." In-Reply-To: <200307051834.h65IYu704913@augusta.math.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 11:44:37 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > (1) Dragging below the boundary of the current window should > cause the window to scroll, selecting new text as it > appears, as it does in acme. > (2) The system and sam snarf buffers should be merged. > (3) Unix sam's samterm interface should be updated > to look like the (much more asthetically pleasing) > Plan 9 version. By this, I mean in terms of > color schemes, et al. > (4) The interface should support mouse chording ala acme and rio. i tried to implement both (1) and (4) some years ago and had trouble because samterm is not in the same address space as sam. this really complicates the implementation. that's not to say it's impossible, just that a few hours' attack by me led nowhere. (2) was a consequence of running over 1200 baud when sam was first written. you didn't want every cut and paste to bounce off the remote end at that speed. nowadays that argument has less weight. on the other hand, i still kinda like that you can have an editing session that doesn't corrupt what you have in rio's snarf buffer. i tried the unified way in acme and i often (not always) miss the old way. (3) is of course trivial and of course long since done in plan 9. -rob From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 6 07:20:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 6 07:20:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 16164 invoked by uid 1020); 6 Jul 2003 07:20:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 16160 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2003 07:20:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 6 Jul 2003 07:20:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4DB9319BE6; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 18:20:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1F2EB19ADC; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 18:20:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 96AA619ADF; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 18:19:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wmail.atlantic.net (wmail.atlantic.net [209.208.0.84]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id BFB5B19AD9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 18:19:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25400 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2003 21:17:00 -0000 Received: from cpe-203-51-78-31.nsw.bigpond.net.au (HELO cc77109e) (203.51.78.31) by wmail.atlantic.net with SMTP; 5 Jul 2003 21:17:00 -0000 Message-ID: <00eb01c34343$69bb0580$c901a8c0@cc77109e> From: "Bruce Ellis" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <200307051834.h65IYu704913@augusta.math.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] sam chatter Organization: www.chunder.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:18:35 +1000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >> (2) The system and sam snarf buffers should be merged. I really like the way it is. In fact I'm having a party next month to celebrate 20 years of the same user interface. I still miss the quality time you get to spend with the coffee maker when your editor is downloading at 1200 baud. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 6 08:21:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 6 08:21:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 17671 invoked by uid 1020); 6 Jul 2003 08:21:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 17667 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2003 08:21:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 6 Jul 2003 08:21:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4FFF819BE2; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 19:21:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3C10A19ADC; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 19:21:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 40A2E19ADE; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 19:20:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ar.aichi-u.ac.jp (ar.aichi-u.ac.jp [202.250.160.40]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B3C4C19AD9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 19:20:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ar.aichi-u.ac.jp ([61.211.130.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 6 08:20:24 JST 2003 Subject: Re: [9fans] rc of Unix Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Kenji Arisawa To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <40F3FBFD-AF3F-11D7-85AC-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:20:23 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_APPLEMAIL version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hello, I introduced builtin function "read" into Unix rc. bash$ diff builtins.c builtins.c.orig 30,34d29 < #define RC_READ 1 < #if RC_READ < static void b_read(char **); < #endif < 46,48d40 < #if RC_READ < { b_read, "read" }, < #endif 111,136d102 < < #if RC_READ < /* read that simulate Plan 9 read -- introduced by Kenar */ < static void b_read(char **av) { < char buf[1024]; < int i = 0; < if (*++av != NULL) { < set(FALSE); < return; < } < for(;;){ < if(i == sizeof(buf)){ < write(1, buf, i); < i = 0; < } < if(read(0, &buf[i++], 1) <= 0){ < i--; < break; < } < if(buf[i-1] == '\n') < break; < } < write(1, buf, i); < set(TRUE); < } < #endif where "builtins.c.orig" is of rc-1.7 I hope that does not introduce a bug ( not tested enough). Kenji Arisawa From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 6 08:49:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 6 08:49:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 18057 invoked by uid 1020); 6 Jul 2003 08:49:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 18053 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2003 08:49:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 6 Jul 2003 08:49:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 35FC419A9F; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 19:49:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4EE1819A31; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 19:49:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9FC1519ADF; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 19:48:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.mightycheese.com (mail.mightycheese.com [209.61.186.18]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DD9EC19AD9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 19:48:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [216.239.45.4] (HELO glenda.corp.google.com) by mail.mightycheese.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 696784 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Sat, 05 Jul 2003 18:56:14 -0500 Message-ID: <1a436ddf83596489155de6b026aa0a93@mightycheese.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] rc of Unix From: "rob pike, esq." In-Reply-To: <40F3FBFD-AF3F-11D7-85AC-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 16:48:11 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) can't resist. here is slightly better code. /* read that simulate Plan 9 read -- introduced by Kenar */ static void b_read(char **av) { char buf[1024]; if (*++av != NULL) { set(FALSE); return; } int i = 0; for(;;){ if(i == sizeof(buf)){ write(1, buf, i); i = 0; } if(read(0, &buf[i], 1) <= 0) break; if(buf[i++] == '\n') break; } if(i > 0) write(1, buf, i); set(TRUE); } From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 6 12:12:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 6 12:12:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 22232 invoked by uid 1020); 6 Jul 2003 12:12:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 22228 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2003 12:12:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 6 Jul 2003 12:12:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4147519BF3; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 23:12:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 224B919AE1; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 23:12:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id AE40E19AEB; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 23:11:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-01.noos.net [212.198.2.70]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D58E919AA2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 23:11:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 34680649 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jul 2003 03:11:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.70 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 6 Jul 2003 03:11:41 -0000 Message-ID: <001b01c3436c$4d668840$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <200307051838.h65Icn704965@augusta.math.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] 'find' MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 05:11:32 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > err, this *does* beg the question; what's wrong with `grep pattern foo'? yes From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 6 12:16:23 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 6 12:16:23 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 22297 invoked by uid 1020); 6 Jul 2003 12:16:23 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 22293 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2003 12:16:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 6 Jul 2003 12:16:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 60E5719BF9; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 23:16:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9415719AEC; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 23:16:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 53A8E19AEE; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 23:15:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-01.noos.net [212.198.2.70]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7D0EB19AA2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 23:15:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 34715762 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jul 2003 03:15:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.70 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 6 Jul 2003 03:15:23 -0000 Message-ID: <002301c3436c$d1cb5ac0$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <8a9325cdd68f97de578300418820a09d@mightycheese.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] sam chatter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 05:15:14 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) no, i don't want to pull on the edge of a transperant object. that's what 'resize' is for. 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From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 01:13:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 01:13:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 5941 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 01:13:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 5937 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 01:13:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 01:13:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 911C219AFC; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 12:13:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8DE2919A88; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 12:13:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4D39119AD5; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 12:12:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from edoras.nas.com (edoras.nas.com [206.63.100.8]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9A48D19A72 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 12:12:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from max2-d20.nas.com (max2-d20.nas.com [206.63.102.149]) by edoras.nas.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E4FEB75D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 09:12:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [9fans] 'find' From: Jack Johnson To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu In-Reply-To: <200307051838.h65Icn704965@augusta.math.psu.edu> References: <200307051838.h65Icn704965@augusta.math.psu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1057507971.2940.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: 06 Jul 2003 09:12:51 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_XIMIAN version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Sat, 2003-07-05 at 11:38, Dan Cross wrote: > > Take your pick. > > > > grep pattern > grep > > err, this *does* beg the question; what's wrong with `grep pattern foo'? My original question was about prefering to edit the end of the line when you change your mind (or make a mistake) in pattern. 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DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 04:23:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 04:23:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 9087 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 04:23:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 9083 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 04:23:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 04:23:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E81A319B2C; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 15:23:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0FD5B19B1D; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 15:23:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1D27719B1D; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 15:22:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailnw.centurytel.net (mailnw.centurytel.net [209.206.160.237]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3A52919B14 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 15:22:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from laptopvmw.9netics.com ([64.91.109.37]) by mailnw.centurytel.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h66JMRGP028483 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 12:22:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36f39dcbf0573d9d3670f9def85c2970@centurytel.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: "Skip Tavakkolian" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] rotating an image Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 12:22:53 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) is there a tool for rotating images? BTW, for the 48x48x4 thumbnail I am using something like this: jpg -kc mymug.jpg | crop -r ... | resample -x48 | iconv -k4 > mymug.9 Is this the usual technique? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 04:40:35 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 04:40:35 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 9273 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 04:40:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 9269 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 04:40:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 04:40:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4988D19BD2; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 15:40:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 204A319B2D; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 15:40:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5E88319B50; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 15:39:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 71AA919B2D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 15:39:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h66JcreH002464 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 13:38:53 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h66Jcr6t002460 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 13:38:53 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] rotating an image In-Reply-To: <36f39dcbf0573d9d3670f9def85c2970@centurytel.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 13:38:53 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Sun, 6 Jul 2003, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > is there a tool for rotating images? pressing 'u' in page will reverse the image to 180 degrees.. adding 90 degree rotation wouldn't be that much difficult ('l' and 'r' are not currently used by page, but check the BUGS section of the man page).. > jpg -kc mymug.jpg | crop -r ... | resample -x48 | iconv -k4 > mymug.9 I use 'w' in page to write the image... to be honest, I'd like to see Page accept plumbing messages for resizing, resampling, rotating, colormapping, and other commands, thereby turning a simple image viewer into a command-language driven image editor :) andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 05:14:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 05:14:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 9545 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 05:14:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 9541 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 05:14:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 05:14:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6509619C00; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 16:14:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 486D519B9F; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 16:14:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B869819BCB; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 16:13:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zephir.uk.clara.net (zephir.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.53]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1B4BD19B75 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 16:13:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from martin.althoff.claranet.co.uk ([213.253.17.40] helo=127.0.0.1) by zephir.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19ZFtB-00071J-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Sun, 06 Jul 2003 21:13:37 +0100 From: Martin Althoff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <46406593.20030706211337@tiscali.co.uk> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] 9plan as file server for non-plan9? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: "martin.althoff" List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 21:13:37 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Sorry if this is a newbie question. I tried posting a few days ago but the post never appeared. Hope I'm not ot... Question: Can I use a plan9 file server within a mixed network and have it provide file services for a Linux client? Possibly even Windows? I work in networks with several hundreds of servers (Lx and Win) and was just hoping someone has done so.... Thanks! Martin From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 06:49:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 06:49:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10644 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 06:49:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10640 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 06:49:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 06:49:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9B7CE19C01; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 17:49:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2D1EE19BEC; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 17:49:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CAD5519BCB; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 17:48:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgristroph-austin.ath.cx (cs24362-19.austin.rr.com [24.243.62.19]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3C97619B32 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 17:48:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgr by rgristroph-austin.ath.cx with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19ZHNM-0007bJ-00; Sun, 06 Jul 2003 16:48:52 -0500 From: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org (Rob Ristroph) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: <87n0fr8gxp.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> Lines: 22 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [9fans] no rio ? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: 06 Jul 2003 16:48:50 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_GNUS_UA version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I downloaded the latest plan9.iso.bz2 from the web, and when I installed it everything went ok, except that after rebooting I got only the term% prompt and no graphical mode. I have installed Plan9 on this hardware several times (earlier versions from a week or more ago). Also the floppy install had no problems bringing up the graphical mode. So I think this might be a glitch with some recent update. This is the error message: rio: can't open display: initdisplay: /dev/draw/new: no frame buffer init: rc exit status: rio 12: display open init: starting /bin/rc term% Has anyone else installing a recent Plan 9 ( in the last week or so ) had a similar problem ? --Rob From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 06:55:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 06:55:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10708 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 06:55:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10704 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 06:55:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 06:55:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5A38219C02; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 17:55:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 554E919BCB; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 17:55:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6774D19BCB; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 17:54:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgristroph-austin.ath.cx (cs24362-19.austin.rr.com [24.243.62.19]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D0FCA19B32 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 17:54:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgr by rgristroph-austin.ath.cx with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19ZHTq-0007bg-00; Sun, 06 Jul 2003 16:55:34 -0500 From: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org (Rob Ristroph) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: <87isqf8gmi.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [9fans] acme and fonts on the install floppy Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: 06 Jul 2003 16:55:33 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_GNUS_UA version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) If one is using the install floppy as a rescue disk to fix a plan9.ini they messed up ( to pick a completely random example ;) ) acme won't run at first because it is looking for a font that isn't there. You can start it after you do: cp /lib/font/bit/lucidasans/typelatin1.7.font /lib/font/bit/lucidasans/euro.8.font It might be nice to include the euro.8.font on the install disk, or make that acme look for the font that was already there. --Rob From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 07:21:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 07:21:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11057 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 07:21:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11053 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 07:21:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 07:21:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1293019C04; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 18:21:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B3BB819B32; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 18:21:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E75F419B33; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 18:20:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from juice.thebigchoice.com (pc1-nott2-3-cust18.nott.cable.ntl.com [80.4.204.18]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id DF4D719B25 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 18:20:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2906 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2003 22:20:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO proweb.co.uk) (192.168.1.100) by juice.thebigchoice.com with SMTP; 6 Jul 2003 22:20:51 -0000 Message-ID: <3F08A0C3.6050801@proweb.co.uk> From: matt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] 'find' References: <200307051838.h65Icn704965@augusta.math.psu.edu> In-Reply-To: <200307051838.h65Icn704965@augusta.math.psu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 23:20:51 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > >>err, this *does* beg the question; what's wrong with `grep pattern foo'? >> Sorry to be pedantic it would raise the question not beg it. Begging the question is another name for a circular argument A is true because B is true, and B is true because A is true. Besides which, it doesn't do either 8) From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 08:05:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 08:05:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11501 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 08:05:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11497 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 08:05:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 08:05:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D611219C0D; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 19:05:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9475819C03; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 19:05:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 393DE19C03; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 19:04:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3D9E619B34 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 19:04:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h66N45eH002687 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 17:04:05 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h66N45IY002683 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 17:04:05 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] no rio ? In-Reply-To: <87n0fr8gxp.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 17:04:05 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) for starters you may want to boot from the cd and copy the bootdisk from it onto the 9fat partition; edit plan9.ini there to boot from sdC0!9fat!9pcdisk and you'll have vga running. at least you won't have to use 'ed' to edit files :) the things to check are vgadb (did/vid pair for the video card should be there -- use the 'pci' command to see the did/vid pair that your hardware thinks it has), make sure your vga card type is defined in the configuration file for the kernel -- compile a new kernel and see if that'll work.. andrey On 6 Jul 2003, Rob Ristroph wrote: > > I downloaded the latest plan9.iso.bz2 from the web, and when I > installed it everything went ok, except that after rebooting I got > only the term% prompt and no graphical mode. I have installed Plan9 > on this hardware several times (earlier versions from a week or more > ago). Also the floppy install had no problems bringing up the > graphical mode. > > So I think this might be a glitch with some recent update. > > This is the error message: > > rio: can't open display: initdisplay: /dev/draw/new: no frame buffer > init: rc exit status: rio 12: display open > > init: starting /bin/rc > term% > > Has anyone else installing a recent Plan 9 ( in the last week or so ) > had a similar problem ? > > --Rob > From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 08:28:50 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 08:28:50 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11883 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 08:28:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11875 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 08:28:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 08:28:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A79E919C0F; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 19:28:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 408DC19C06; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 19:28:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 324F519C03; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 19:27:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5418219C06 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 19:27:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2defc5740114720fe24f65d6045eef21@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org, 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] no rio ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-hxywjndfscpqthdtjhfoswedbk" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 19:27:11 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-hxywjndfscpqthdtjhfoswedbk Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit - are $monitor and $vgasize set to anything? - is aux/vga actually loading vga mode? - if $monitor and $vgasize are set, what happens when you run aux/vga -m $monitor -l $vgasize --upas-hxywjndfscpqthdtjhfoswedbk Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Sun Jul 6 17:49:24 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Sun Jul 6 17:49:21 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6ED8919B75; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 17:49:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8F2A519BCB; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 17:49:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CAD5519BCB; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 17:48:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgristroph-austin.ath.cx (cs24362-19.austin.rr.com [24.243.62.19]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3C97619B32 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 17:48:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgr by rgristroph-austin.ath.cx with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19ZHNM-0007bJ-00; Sun, 06 Jul 2003 16:48:52 -0500 From: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org (Rob Ristroph) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: <87n0fr8gxp.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> Lines: 22 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [9fans] no rio ? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: 06 Jul 2003 16:48:50 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_GNUS_UA version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I downloaded the latest plan9.iso.bz2 from the web, and when I installed it everything went ok, except that after rebooting I got only the term% prompt and no graphical mode. I have installed Plan9 on this hardware several times (earlier versions from a week or more ago). Also the floppy install had no problems bringing up the graphical mode. So I think this might be a glitch with some recent update. This is the error message: rio: can't open display: initdisplay: /dev/draw/new: no frame buffer init: rc exit status: rio 12: display open init: starting /bin/rc term% Has anyone else installing a recent Plan 9 ( in the last week or so ) had a similar problem ? --Rob --upas-hxywjndfscpqthdtjhfoswedbk-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 11:36:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 11:36:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20452 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 11:36:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20448 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 11:36:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 11:36:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 33E7619C1D; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 22:36:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1A10319B35; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 22:36:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A8B3C19B35; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 22:35:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-04.noos.net [212.198.2.73]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BD49119B23 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 22:35:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23594350 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jul 2003 02:34:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.73 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 7 Jul 2003 02:34:59 -0000 Message-ID: <001f01c34430$579afd40$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: [9fans] memory stick Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:34:51 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) after doing some research on this fools errand it would appear that trying to boot off it is possible, but they don't want to tell you -- and, no i don't want help from the lunix loons. hmm, 'the lunix room' -- it'd probably be a padded cell ... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 12:13:59 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 12:13:59 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 22092 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 12:13:42 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 22082 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 12:13:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 12:13:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 45E3719C22; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:13:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1BD2219C17; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:13:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B155719C18; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:12:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-08.noos.net [212.198.2.77]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D0F5019C11 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:12:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4670687 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jul 2003 03:12:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.77 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 7 Jul 2003 03:12:44 -0000 Message-ID: <005201c34435$9d55b0a0$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: [9fans] LCD interlaced display? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 05:12:35 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) to me this make no sense. on a real video monitor i understand interlacing, but how is it i can choose 1024x768 LCD and then i get to choose '1024x768, interlaced'. my real problem is this LCD RAGE ATI card/display that has these wide [2cm] verticle rectangles which are just not 'part' of the display. does this make sense to anyone? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 12:24:40 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 12:24:40 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 22491 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 12:24:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 22483 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 12:24:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 12:24:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A574619C25; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:24:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8837A19A94; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:24:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1EAF019B37; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:23:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DAC20199B7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:23:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] PDF errors From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 12:23:25 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >it's Aladdin Ghostscript 7.04. But it dies when I try ... >Does anybody know what's going on? Below is the exact I'm using 7.04 without any problem, I forgot what I did on the sources of ghostscript though. I think some problems were there in fake-make process in mkfile... Probably some obj/foo.c or obj/foo.h files are not copied to src directory. I hope it may give you a hint. (damn, my corrupted brain!) Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 12:28:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 12:28:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 22664 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 12:28:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 22646 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 12:28:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 12:28:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2ADCA19C28; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:28:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BEF3719C18; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:28:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 494F719C18; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:27:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-01.noos.net [212.198.2.70]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6AE98199D2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:27:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 34491045 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jul 2003 03:27:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.70 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 7 Jul 2003 03:27:11 -0000 Message-ID: <005c01c34437$a2555fe0$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] PDF errors MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 05:27:02 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > it's Aladdin Ghostscript 7.04. But it dies when I try Ghostscript -- you don't stand a ghost of a chance ... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 12:31:27 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 12:31:27 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 22787 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 12:31:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 22783 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 12:31:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 12:31:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4E3EE19C31; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:31:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 461AD19C24; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:31:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id ED52D19C29; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:30:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 50A1119C1B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:30:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Sun Jul 6 23:30:16 EDT 2003 Received: from 209.23.14.130 ([209.23.14.130]) by plan9; Sun Jul 6 23:30:13 EDT 2003 Message-ID: <6a47e99c7bb5d983b6fb9fee28776bf9@plan9.bell-labs.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] is this sufficient? From: "Russ Cox" In-Reply-To: <000501c341ea$e3125cd0$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:28:39 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) if(! cp * /mnt/cd/wd) echo it failed From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 15:23:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 15:23:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 29799 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 15:23:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 29795 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 15:23:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 15:23:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E9CEF19C21; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 02:23:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E9A7C19AEC; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 02:23:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4C6B419AEC; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 02:22:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx2.net.titech.ac.jp (mx2.net.titech.ac.jp [131.112.125.31]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id A3C3519A0D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 02:22:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 47630 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 06:22:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vc2.net.titech.ac.jp) (131.112.125.36) by mx2.net.titech.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 06:22:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO o.cc.titech.ac.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 06:22:32 -0000 Received: from p9t by mail-o.cc.titech.ac.jp (8.11.3/1.1.10.5/20Feb97-0455PM) id h676MRK261344; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:22:32 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: YAMANASHI Takeshi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] can any user create files as bootes? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:22:22 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) If a user login but the home directory doesn't exist, the user lands on somewhere like /usr/bootes and the user seemingly keeps the permission of bootes. But the user looses the permission once he have issued a `cd' command with an absolute path as its argument. Does this just happen only on my plan 9 system? I attched the transcription: % nashi@p9t telnet -r aman connected to tcp!aman!telnet on /net/tcp/1 user: mma challenge: 92119 response: 55feacc3 aman# aman# pwd /usr/bootes aman# ls /usr /usr/bootes /usr/glenda /usr/nashi /usr/sysnashi aman# aman# ls -l hoge --rw-rw-r-- M 8 bootes bootes 0 Jul 7 15:12 hoge aman# rm hoge aman# ls -l hoge ls: hoge: 'hoge' directory entry not found aman# touch hoge aman# ls -l hoge --rw-rw-r-- M 8 bootes bootes 0 Jul 7 15:13 hoge aman# cd ../../usr/bootes aman# ls -l fuga ls: fuga: 'fuga' directory entry not found aman# touch fuga aman# ls -l fuga --rw-rw-r-- M 8 bootes bootes 0 Jul 7 15:14 fuga aman# aman# aman# cd /usr/bootes aman# ls -l foo ls: foo: 'foo' directory entry not found aman# touch foo touch: foo: cannot create: access permission denied aman# rm hoge rm: hoge: access permission denied aman# rm fuga rm: fuga: access permission denied aman# aman# exit From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 17:23:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 17:23:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 2937 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 17:23:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 2933 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 17:23:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 17:23:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D77B419B14; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:23:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DC2A919AFE; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:23:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 243CD19B11; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:22:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz (clusterb.asuch.cas.cz [147.231.136.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3949719AEC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:22:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from picture ([147.231.139.42]) by XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:22:53 +0200 Message-ID: <000501c34460$f6030c90$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> From: "pac" To: "9fans" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2003 08:22:53.0001 (UTC) FILETIME=[F5ED1390:01C34460] Subject: [9fans] survey Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:22:53 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >>> Win Mac Sun SGI Linux/BSD Plan9 >>> >>> design [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] >>> >> etc. And please don't offend anyone by merging the *BSDs with Linux. sorry for that! > on an HTML page. will you then bother to respond? ;-))) folks, I only wanted to have my "opinions" on Plan 9 corrected/supported/denied by persons much more experienced than me (==YOU)! cheers, ++pac. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 17:30:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 17:30:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 3240 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 17:30:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 3235 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 17:30:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 17:30:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9591419B11; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:30:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DBE1719B11; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:30:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DE46D19B11; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:29:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EB41119A95 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:29:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h678J4np004064 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:19:08 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h678Ix6U004063 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:18:59 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] survey Message-ID: <20030707101854.U16824@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: <000501c34460$f6030c90$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: <000501c34460$f6030c90$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz>; from pac on Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 10:22:53AM +0200 Organization: Proxima Research & Development Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:18:55 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 10:22:53AM +0200, pac wrote: > > >>> Win Mac Sun SGI Linux/BSD Plan9 > >>> > >>> design [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] > >>> > >> etc. And please don't offend anyone by merging the *BSDs with Linux. > > sorry for that! > > > on an HTML page. > > will you then bother to respond? ;-))) I did once, I don't see why I shouldn't a second time. > folks, I only wanted to have my "opinions" on Plan 9 > corrected/supported/denied by persons much more experienced than me (==YOU)! > Well, I don't know about experienced, but I'm happy to offer an opinion, but not to write an essay :-) ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 17:45:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 17:45:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 3875 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 17:45:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 3871 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 17:45:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 17:45:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E9C5719C05; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:45:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8FDC819BF7; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:45:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 309E119BEC; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:44:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from minster.cs.york.ac.uk (minster.cs.york.ac.uk [144.32.40.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 60FEE19B2F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:44:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pc118 ([144.32.41.119] helo=pc118.cs.york.ac.uk ident=1530) by minster.cs.york.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ZRaB-0002k9-3q; Mon, 07 Jul 2003 09:42:47 +0100 Subject: Re: [9fans] sam chatter From: John Murdie To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Cc: john@cs.york.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <002301c3436c$d1cb5ac0$d2944251@insultant.net> References: <8a9325cdd68f97de578300418820a09d@mightycheese.com> <002301c3436c$d1cb5ac0$d2944251@insultant.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1057567366.751.179.camel@pc118> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanner: exiscan *19ZRaB-0002k9-3q*1l/Lv9ivVtc* Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: 07 Jul 2003 09:42:46 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_XIMIAN version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Sat 2003-07-05 at 14:34 Dan Cross wrote: >Perhaps this will seem sacreligous, but I'd like to see the following >changes in sam, myself: > > (1) Dragging below the boundary of the current window should > cause the window to scroll, selecting new text as it >... > - Dan C. On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 04:15, boyd, rounin wrote: > no, i don't want to pull on the edge of a transperant object. > > that's what 'resize' is for. > I would like this feature (Ok, so I'm lazy for not having tried to code it myself.) I fail to see, however, (if this is what Boyd is referring to) how resize can be used conveniently to select a part of the document being worked on that is taller than the display. ("sacreligious" and "transparent", btw). That said, I don't want to give the impression that I think direct manipulation is _the answer_ to user interface problems. While it is convenient for small and simple tasks, and an easy concept for a novice to grasp, I believe that direct manipulation fails to take advantage of the concept of _language_, and misses the riches that this idea offers for communication with a computer. (Hence the sam command language, of course.) I think that the Bruce Tognazzini's (http://www.asktog.com) saying "power tools for power fools" is missing the point; why do so many self-appointed HCI gurus apparently want to reduce us all to the lowest common denominator? John A. Murdie From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 17:47:20 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 17:47:20 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 3917 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 17:47:20 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 3913 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 17:47:20 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 17:47:20 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3E52D19C0A; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:47:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F1B5A19B2F; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:47:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1EBBA19BFF; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:46:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4B46919B35 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:46:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19ZRRi-0006DM-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 07 Jul 2003 09:34:02 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: "Douglas A. Gwyn" Message-ID: <3F07C5D3.7030808@null.net> Organization: University of Bath Computing Services, UK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200307051838.h65Icn704965@augusta.math.psu.edu>, <001b01c3436c$4d668840$d2944251@insultant.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] 'find' Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:33:44 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) boyd, rounin wrote: >>err, this *does* beg the question; what's wrong with `grep pattern foo'? > yes What's wrong with grep pattern foo is that it acts differently from grep pattern foo1 foo2. Whether or not the filename is displayed as a prefix should be controlled by a command option, not by how many file arguments there are. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 17:47:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 17:47:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 3927 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 17:47:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 3923 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 17:47:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 17:47:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DB34419C27; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:47:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D524819C1A; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:47:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D76DD19C08; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:46:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3A5F119BFC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:46:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19ZRRi-0006DG-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 07 Jul 2003 09:34:02 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: james Message-ID: <5d408e9f.0307051426.14f00186@posting.google.com> Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [9fans] mach64xx video blues Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:33:34 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hello Earthlings, Problems with my video display. Can you lend a helping command? This was a default install on a Dell Inspiron 5000. Haven't made any changes yet but toggled a few switches with aux/vga and the problem won't leave. What is happening exactly is two or three bands where nothing but blank color and some horizontal lines being animated around the edges are being displayed over the windows in rio and the terminal without rio as well, using the mach64xx ctlr. Could it be my monitor display? It is set at monitor=xga and vgasize=1024x768x8 in plan9.ini. But I noticed when using aux/vga –piV that this line is present ( or maybe this is the default res for xga ): type=xga, size=640x480x8 but cat /dev/vgactl gives: size 1024x768x8 m8 and the installation troubleshooting wiki mentioned problems with stretching video on lcd screens. Trying to set vgasize=640x480x8 doesn't seem to affect anything. It still loads at apparently the same resolution with the bad vids. THX, James Here is cat /dev/vgactl : type mach64xx size 1024x768x8 m8 blanktime 30 hwaccel on hwblank on panning off addr 0xfd000000 Here is aux/vga –piV : main->snarf vga->snarf mach64xx->snarf vga->dump mach64xx->dump rom table offset 108 freq table offset A7C memclk 125000000 ref_freq 29500000 ref_divider 64 min_freq 9840000 max_freq 236000000 pd 0 value 4 (|4) post = 3 vmf 25175000 vmdf 0 vf1 0 vbw 0 vga->init mach64xx->init rom table offset 108 freq table offset A7C memclk 12500 memclk 12500... x 63.555114...t 63... xprec 6...fifosz 2033.763654...fprec 11...prec 6...afifosz 32...fifooff 1971.000000...pfc 7...rcc 9...fifoon 97.000000... vga->dump mach64xx->dump rom table offset 108 freq table offset A7C memclk 125000000 ref_freq 29500000 ref_divider 64 min_freq 9840000 max_freq 236000000 pd 0 value 4 (|4) post = 3 main->exits main->snarf vga->snarf mach64xx->snarf vga->attr: vid=0x1002 vga->attr: did=0x4C4D vga->attr: 0xC0000-0xC0200=MACH64LM vga->dump vga misc E3 vga feature 00 vga sequencer 03 01 0F 00 0A vga crt A3 7F 88 9A 86 1A 24 FD - 00 60 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 29 FF 80 60 03 04 A3 - FF vga graphics 00 00 00 00 00 50 05 0F - FF vga attribute 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 - 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F 41 FF 0F 00 00 vga virtual 0 0 vga panning off vga vm a b 16777216 0 vga vmz 8388608 vga apz 8388608 vga linear 1 mach64xx->dump mach64xx pci 4b488 io 2000 pciregs mach64xx ccru 300 mach64xx HTotalDisp 007F00A3 mach64xx HSyncStrtWid 001A0086 mach64xx VTotalDisp 02FF0324 mach64xx VSyncStrtWid 00090303 mach64xx VlineCrntVline 014A03FF mach64xx OffPitch 20000000 mach64xx IntCntl 80000134 mach64xx CrtcGenCntl 03002200 mach64xx OvrClr 00000000 mach64xx OvrWidLR 00000000 mach64xx OvrWidTB 00000000 mach64xx CurClr0 FFFFFFFF mach64xx CurClr1 00000000 mach64xx CurOffset 00018000 mach64xx CurHVposn 018C00C5 mach64xx CurHVoff 00300030 mach64xx ScratchReg0 04100400 mach64xx ScratchReg1 00000000 mach64xx ClockCntl 008C0002 mach64xx BusCntl 7333A001 mach64xx MemCntl 10C57A3B mach64xx ExtMemCntl E0000C81 mach64xx MemVgaWpSel 00010000 mach64xx MemVgaRpSel 00010000 mach64xx DacRegs 00FF0001 mach64xx DacCntl 8701200A mach64xx GenTestCntl 00000180 mach64xx ConfigCntl 00003F42 mach64xx ConfigChipId 64004C4D mach64xx ConfigStat0 00C00095 mach64xx ConfigStat1 00000000 mach64xx ConfigStat2 00000000 mach64xx DspConfig 004A06AA mach64xx DspOnOff 00BC0678 mach64xx DpBkgdClr FFFFFFFF mach64xx DpChainMsk FFFFFFFF mach64xx DpFrgdClr FFFFFFFF mach64xx DpMix FFFFFFFF mach64xx DpPixWidth FFFFFFFF mach64xx DpSrc FFFFFFFF mach64xx DpWriteMsk FFFFFFFF mach64xx LcdIndex 00000409 mach64xx LcdData 02000000 mach64xx PLL 8C AC 40 4C 87 03 C0 D4 - D4 D4 00 F9 80 1B 00 00 0E CF 40 00 50 F6 AC 03 - 40 00 24 FD 00 00 00 02 mach64xx LCD ConfigPanel 00034274 mach64xx LCD GenCntl 407520DA mach64xx LCD DstnCntl 00000000 mach64xx LCD HfbPitchAddr 00000F00 mach64xx LCD HorzStretch 27F00A00 mach64xx LCD VertStretch 00000000 mach64xx LCD ExtVertStretch 0017FB00 mach64xx LCD LtGio 00007000 mach64xx LCD PowerMngmnt 0200040B mach64xx LCD ZvgPio 02000000 mach64xx VCLK0 31619314 mach64xx VCLK1 31619314 mach64xx VCLK2 31619314 mach64xx VCLK3 0 rom table offset 108 freq table offset A7C memclk 125000000 ref_freq 29500000 ref_divider 64 min_freq 9840000 max_freq 236000000 pd 0 value 4 (|4) post = 3 mach64xx pixel clock = 130290000 ATI BIOS rom 0x108 freq 0x0 clock 0xa7c clocks: 43605 60288 53883 46 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 356 0 0 16969 programmable clock: 4 clock to program: 3 reference numerator: 29500 reference denominator: 1 internal clock reference divider in plls can't find lcd bios table0 vmf 25175000 vmdf 0 vf1 0 vbw 0 vga->init mach64xx->init rom table offset 108 freq table offset A7C memclk 12500 memclk 12500... x 63.555114...t 63... xprec 6...fifosz 2033.763654...fprec 11...prec 6...afifosz 32...fifooff 1971.000000...pfc 7...rcc 9...fifoon 97.000000... dbdumpmode type=xga, size=640x480x8 frequency=25175000 x=640 (0x280), y=480 (0x1E0), z=8 (0x8) ht=800 (0x320), shb=664 (0x298), ehb=760 (0x2F8) shs=664 (0x298), ehs=760 (0x2F8) vt=525 (0x20D), vrs=491 (0x1EB), vre=493 (0x1ED) hsync=0, vsync=0, interlace=0 vga->attr: vid=0x1002 vga->attr: did=0x4C4D vga->attr: 0xC0000-0xC0200=MACH64LM vga->dump vga flag Fdump|Finit|Fsnarf vga misc E3 vga feature 00 vga sequencer 03 01 0F 00 0A vga crt 5F 4F 52 9F 53 1F20B 3E - 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 1EB 2D1DF 50 601EB1EC A3 -7FF vga graphics 00 00 00 00 00 50 05 0F - FF vga attribute 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 - 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F 41 FF 0F 00 00 vga virtual 640 480 vga panning off vga clock[0] f 31619314 vga clock[0] d i m 0 0 - 64 vga clock[0] n p q r 212 3 - 0 0 vga vm a b 16777216 0 vga vmz 8388608 vga apz 8388608 vga linear 1 mach64xx->dump mach64xx flag Ulinear|Uenhanced|Fdump|Finit|Fsnarf mach64xx pci 4b488 io 2000 pciregs mach64xx ccru 300 mach64xx HTotalDisp 004F0063 mach64xx HSyncStrtWid 000C0052 mach64xx VTotalDisp 01DF020C mach64xx VSyncStrtWid 000201EA mach64xx VlineCrntVline 014A03FF mach64xx OffPitch 14000000 mach64xx IntCntl 00000000 mach64xx CrtcGenCntl 03002200 mach64xx OvrClr 00000000 mach64xx OvrWidLR 00000000 mach64xx OvrWidTB 00000000 mach64xx CurClr0 FFFFFFFF mach64xx CurClr1 00000000 mach64xx CurOffset 00018000 mach64xx CurHVposn 018C00C5 mach64xx CurHVoff 00300030 mach64xx ScratchReg0 04100400 mach64xx ScratchReg1 00000000 mach64xx ClockCntl 00000002 mach64xx BusCntl 7333A001 mach64xx MemCntl 10C57A3B mach64xx ExtMemCntl E0000C81 mach64xx MemVgaWpSel 00010000 mach64xx MemVgaRpSel 00010000 mach64xx DacRegs 00FF0001 mach64xx DacCntl 8701200A mach64xx GenTestCntl 00000180 mach64xx ConfigCntl 00000000 mach64xx ConfigChipId 64004C4D mach64xx ConfigStat0 00C00095 mach64xx ConfigStat1 00000000 mach64xx ConfigStat2 00000000 mach64xx DspConfig 006A07F1 mach64xx DspOnOff 006107B3 mach64xx DpBkgdClr FFFFFFFF mach64xx DpChainMsk FFFFFFFF mach64xx DpFrgdClr FFFFFFFF mach64xx DpMix FFFFFFFF mach64xx DpPixWidth 00020202 mach64xx DpSrc FFFFFFFF mach64xx DpWriteMsk FFFFFFFF mach64xx LcdIndex 00000409 mach64xx LcdData 02000000 mach64xx PLL 8C AC 40 4C 87 03 C0 D4 - D4 D4 00 F9 80 1B 00 00 0E CF 40 00 50 F6 AC 03 - 40 00 24 FD 00 00 00 02 mach64xx LCD ConfigPanel 00034274 mach64xx LCD GenCntl 407520DA mach64xx LCD DstnCntl 00000000 mach64xx LCD HfbPitchAddr 00000F00 mach64xx LCD HorzStretch E7F00A00 mach64xx LCD VertStretch C0000280 mach64xx LCD ExtVertStretch 0017FB00 mach64xx LCD LtGio 00007000 mach64xx LCD PowerMngmnt 0200040B mach64xx LCD ZvgPio 02000000 mach64xx VCLK0 31619314 mach64xx VCLK1 31619314 mach64xx VCLK2 31619314 mach64xx VCLK3 0 rom table offset 108 freq table offset A7C memclk 125000000 ref_freq 29500000 ref_divider 64 min_freq 9840000 max_freq 236000000 pd 0 value 4 (|4) post = 3 mach64xx pixel clock = 130290000 main->exits From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 17:47:40 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 17:47:40 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 3937 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 17:47:40 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 3932 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 17:47:40 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 17:47:40 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1410119C2F; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:47:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0EDAA19C29; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:47:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5858019BFC; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:46:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 44C0E19B35 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:46:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19ZRRi-0006DA-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 07 Jul 2003 09:34:02 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: "Douglas A. Gwyn" Message-ID: <3F05D809.7030707@null.net> Organization: University of Bath Computing Services, UK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: , <44e997e179c114d5d75e0b4b5fd0ed5a@mightycheese.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:33:21 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) rob pike, esq. wrote: > 65536 is not a very big number in modern i/o systems. Actally neither is 2^32. What the world needs is an efficient variable-length encoding of unsigned integers. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 17:47:53 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 17:47:53 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 3946 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 17:47:53 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 3942 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 17:47:53 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 17:47:53 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7CA4419C23; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:47:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2D5E019C34; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:47:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1096D19BFF; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:46:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 306A819B35 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:46:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19ZRRi-0006D4-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 07 Jul 2003 09:34:02 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: "Douglas A. Gwyn" Message-ID: <3F05D708.9080607@null.net> Organization: University of Bath Computing Services, UK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <3F051817.3050207@null.net>, <20030704163603.B1374@edinburgh.cisco.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] sam hacking - a couple of fixes that may apply t Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:33:08 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Derek Fawcus wrote: > Speaking of B, one other thing I noticed wrt to the unix (X11) version > is that the pipe for B is exported by samterm not sam. This means that > if they are running on seperate machines, B is not so convenient to > use - i.e. it can't be used as say "B *.h' and do what you'd like. Then somebody must have broken that version. The one I maintain (at one time widely used in BRL) has multiple vrsions of samterm, most of which run as processes within the terminal (5620, 630). There is no Unix in those terminals, yet the pipe feature works, operating in the host environment (which is where the files live). They also work with sam -r, which runs the host part on a remote host. (We used to edit files on the Cray mainframes this way.) From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 18:04:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 18:04:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 4411 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 18:04:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 4403 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 18:04:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 18:04:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6BADA19C1F; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 05:04:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6CB0819BFF; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 05:04:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7D85919C08; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 05:03:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from collyer.net (adsl-63-192-14-226.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.192.14.226]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 81A2B19BFF for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 05:03:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <7150078ec6d4a983e1bc125e877704f7@collyer.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? From: Geoff Collyer In-Reply-To: <3F05D809.7030707@null.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 02:03:08 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Actually 2âłâ˛ is a fairly big number in the context of 9P read & write byte counts (which is what Rob was talking about). I don't think I've ever read or written 4,294,967,296 bytes (or even close to that many) in a single operation. As for efficient integer encodings, at least for this purpose, if we restricted I/O transfer lengths to powers of 2, we could just supply the exponent in 9P (e.g., 16 in a length field in 9P would represent 2â±â¶=65,536). âş We could get away with a single byte for length fields, even a signed byte. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 18:12:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 18:12:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 4618 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 18:12:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 4614 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 18:12:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 18:12:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4403219C26; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 05:12:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 49A7F19B29; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 05:12:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 04FE419B29; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 05:11:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 93E0B19A7F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 05:11:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6791inp004222 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:01:46 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h6791gjv004221 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:01:42 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans mailing list <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Message-ID: <20030707110139.V16824@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans mailing list <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us Organization: Proxima Research & Development Subject: [9fans] Still puzzled by Venti Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:01:39 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) ... which incidentally still refuses to work as advertised :-( The constant "IndexBase" is used exclusively in /sys/src/cmd/venti/fmtindex.c after being defined (as 1024 * 1024) in .../venti/dat.h. The code that uses it seems flawed to me: it assumes that addr = IndexBase; as assigned before a loop through the contents of the Venti config file, can be used as the arenas start address, which is not entirely unjustified if the index is meant to start, as given in a comment in dat.h: IndexBase = 1024*1024, /* initial address to use in an index */ but is wrong when used in computing the beginning of the next arena (and the end of the present one) by adding to it the current arena size: amap[n].start = addr; addr += ap->arenas[j]->size; amap[n].stop = addr; I'm not sure what the correct adjustment should be here, but the upper limit should certainly remain within the arena: amap[n].stop = addr - IndexBase + ap->arenaBase; Whether this is not just my imagination running wild, remains to be decided. Unfortunately, I don't know how to test this, because I'm not sure what the importance of the initial unused space is. I guess I can but try the exact change suggested above and see what its effect is going to be. ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 19:50:19 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 19:50:19 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 7301 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 19:50:18 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 7297 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 19:50:18 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 19:50:18 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4ACB119C2D; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 06:50:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BAACE19BFC; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 06:50:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 01FB319B69; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 06:49:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-05.noos.net [212.198.2.74]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1CF71199B6 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 06:49:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5203945 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jul 2003 10:49:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.74 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 7 Jul 2003 10:49:11 -0000 Message-ID: <008d01c34475$616cf9a0$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <3F07C5D3.7030808@null.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] 'find' MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 12:49:03 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > What's wrong with grep pattern foo is that it acts differently > from grep pattern foo1 foo2. Whether or not the filename is > displayed as a prefix should be controlled by a command option, > not by how many file arguments there are. perhaps there should be an option, but i think the way it works at the moment is more useful. of course, if run from xargs: ... | xargs grep foo /dev/null does the same and adds no extra code to grep. but you [doug] knew that anyway. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 20:00:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 20:00:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 7505 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 20:00:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 7501 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 20:00:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 20:00:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2F1DE19C34; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 07:00:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6595219BFE; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 07:00:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6F4AA19C1C; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 06:59:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from minster.cs.york.ac.uk (minster.cs.york.ac.uk [144.32.40.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BB8E619BFE for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 06:59:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pc118 ([144.32.41.119] helo=pc118.cs.york.ac.uk ident=1530) by minster.cs.york.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ZTfw-0006MT-5D; Mon, 07 Jul 2003 11:56:52 +0100 Subject: Re: [9fans] sam chatter From: John Murdie To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Cc: john@cs.york.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <1057567366.751.179.camel@pc118> References: <8a9325cdd68f97de578300418820a09d@mightycheese.com> <002301c3436c$d1cb5ac0$d2944251@insultant.net> <1057567366.751.179.camel@pc118> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1057575411.751.183.camel@pc118> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanner: exiscan *19ZTfw-0006MT-5D*j.TvmiPX1EY* Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: 07 Jul 2003 11:56:51 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_XIMIAN version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 09:42, John Murdie wrote: > ("sacreligious" ... btw). No, "sacrilegious", blush. John A. Murdie From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 21:02:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 21:02:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 9068 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 21:02:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 9064 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 21:02:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 21:02:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CD15B19BFE; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:02:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D692A19A7F; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:02:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 72D4919B3F; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:01:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8AB5E19A7F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:01:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19ZUUP-00027T-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 07 Jul 2003 12:49:01 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Wesley Parish Message-ID: Organization: TelstraClear Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit References: <200306171652.h5HGqLEw016681@cvs.openbsd.org>, <3F046D11.1040106@acm.org> Subject: Re: [9fans] The new OK license Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:45:53 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) D. Brownlee wrote: > D. Brownlee wrote: > >> Also, ACK is available with a BSD-style license. >> Don't know -- haven't followed compilers lately -- but >> it's generated code used to be respectable. It is also >> fairly easy to get a compiler up for a new archictecture. >> It was recently at: >> >> http://www.cs.vu.nl/vakgroepen/cs/ack.html >> >> but just noticed that that link is now 404. >> >> > These work: > > ftp://ftp.cs.vu.nl/pub/ceriel/ack/Ack-5.5.tar.gz > ftp://ftp.cs.vu.nl/pub/ceriel/ack/doc.tar.gz Thanks! Now I've just got to try it out on my several OSes - not excluding either Plan9 _or_ OpenBSD - TenDRA compiles on Linux, I do know that, I just haven't tried compiling the kernel with it, but it'll happen ... ;) Wesley Parish -- First the wife, tone of awe. So much a condition. Kent in the labs, fast forward. "So how was the worthlessful businessman?" But they hadn't stopped meat for year ago, that arose hotel facade slowly moved apper. - Don't let emacs meta-x dissociatedpress write your speeches! From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 21:06:22 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 21:06:22 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 9134 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 21:06:22 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 9130 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 21:06:21 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 21:06:21 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4639919C2A; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:06:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 12C3519C20; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:06:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 345E319C1C; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:05:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz (clusterb.asuch.cas.cz [147.231.136.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 43BB919A7F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:05:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from picture ([147.231.139.42]) by XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 7 Jul 2003 14:05:55 +0200 Message-ID: <003201c34480$1e46e090$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> From: "pac" To: "9fans" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2003 12:05:55.0058 (UTC) FILETIME=[1E40ED20:01C34480] Subject: [9fans] verifying CD vs. iso image Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 14:05:55 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi folks, can you show me how to compare (checksums of) CD-R versus its original iso image (used to be copied to /mnt/cd/wd)? I don't know how to access the raw data on the CD (I feel that it should be some trick with with /dev/sdC1/ctl or /dev/sdC1/raw ... ) Also, I've got trapped in (presumably easy to write) script to compare all files in two (intentionally identical) directories. Just something like cmp filelist1 filelist2. I ended up with ugly enough catting everything together and piping it to cmp :-((( Beg for your help here, too. I must be an idiot, or what. Cheers, ++pac. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 22:32:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 22:32:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10879 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 22:32:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10875 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 22:32:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 22:32:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 18D4919B4C; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 09:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E2E2F19B42; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 09:32:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 035B619AB8; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 09:31:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DE4F819AB8 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 09:31:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19ZW3B-0004Hu-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 07 Jul 2003 14:29:01 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Ralph Corderoy Message-ID: <18a5.3f0970d7.252b7@blake.inputplus.co.uk> Organization: InputPlus Ltd. References: <1eda.3f056faa.da6d1@blake.inputplus.co.uk>, <200307051838.h65Icn704965@augusta.math.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] 'find' Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 13:28:47 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi Dan, > > Take your pick. > > > > grep pattern > grep > > err, this *does* beg the question; what's wrong with `grep pattern > foo'? Read my post again, including the part I quoted and replied to. The OP wants the pattern to be at the end of the line for easy editing. Cheers, -- Ralph Corderoy. http://inputplus.co.uk/ralph/ http://troff.org/ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 22:40:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 22:40:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11000 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 22:40:23 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10996 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 22:40:22 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 22:40:22 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6E78D19C37; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 09:40:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DDA3319BFC; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 09:40:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id F36F419B48; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 09:39:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ar.aichi-u.ac.jp (ar.aichi-u.ac.jp [202.250.160.40]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B1D0419B42 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 09:39:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ar.aichi-u.ac.jp ([61.211.130.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 22:39:29 JST 2003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Kenji Arisawa To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <003201c34480$1e46e090$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> Message-Id: <6F055FB9-B080-11D7-A4C1-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Subject: [9fans] pop3 before smtp Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 22:39:29 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_APPLEMAIL version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hello, Does anyone have a plan to add "pop3 before smtp" to Plan9 smtpd? Kenji Arisawa From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 23:08:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 23:08:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11740 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 23:08:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11736 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 23:08:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 23:08:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6C8F319B96; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:08:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CA74919B96; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:08:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7B27819BFC; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:07:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net (harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.12]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CF99119B48 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:07:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sdn-ap-022castocp0074.dialsprint.net ([65.178.96.74] helo=acm.org) by harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19ZWe2-0000Pq-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 07 Jul 2003 07:07:06 -0700 Message-ID: <3F097ECA.5020506@acm.org> From: "D. Brownlee" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; NetBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030701 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] The new OK license References: <200306171652.h5HGqLEw016681@cvs.openbsd.org>, <3F046D11.1040106@acm.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 07:08:10 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, RCVD_IN_NJABL,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA, X_ACCEPT_LANG,X_NJABL_DIALUP version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Wesley Parish wrote: > Now I've just got to try it out on my several OSes - not excluding either > Plan9 _or_ OpenBSD - TenDRA compiles on Linux, I do know that, I just > haven't tried compiling the kernel with it, but it'll happen ... ;) > > Wesley Parish The Linux kernel may be a problem. There is alot of "inline" code in '.h' files, assembly code at that. Those guys learned 'C' with GCC. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 23:17:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 23:17:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11864 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 23:17:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11860 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 23:17:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 23:17:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A54CB19BFC; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:17:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A114019BEC; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:17:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 003F919AED; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:16:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1BC2D19BEC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:16:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19ZWft-0004vX-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 07 Jul 2003 15:09:01 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: "Douglas A. Gwyn" Message-ID: <3F097CF9.9683D36E@null.net> Organization: U.S. Army Research Laboratory Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <3F07C5D3.7030808@null.net>, <008d01c34475$616cf9a0$d2944251@insultant.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] 'find' Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 14:05:23 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) "boyd, rounin" wrote: > ... | xargs grep foo /dev/null > but you [doug] knew that anyway. Yeah, in fact I have to do that a lot. Clearly this is a kludge. Why should /dev/null have to get involved? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 23:18:17 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 7 23:18:17 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11897 invoked by uid 1020); 7 Jul 2003 23:18:17 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11893 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 23:18:16 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 23:18:16 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E9FB719C40; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:18:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 465F919BEC; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:18:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id AEAF419C32; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:17:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A971019B42 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:17:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: David Presotto To: uncover@beat.cc.titech.ac.jp, 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] can any user create files as bootes? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-urysejxauqpanpsalirvimquxc" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:17:42 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-urysejxauqpanpsalirvimquxc Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cool! After telnetd remakes your namespace, the current directory is still under the old namespace. Normally this wouldn't be a problem since the listener should be running as 'none' and should have created a new namespace and cd'd to /usr/none. However, you also have no /usr/none so, although the namespace has been rebuilt twice, your current directory is still from two namespaces ago. Thanks much, this is a bad hole for anyone that doesn't have a /usr/none. Until I fix it, create a directory /usr/none with the following protections: d-rwxrwxr-x M 647925 none none 0 Mar 28 2000 /usr/none That should leave the no home directory user in /usr/none when he logs in and with no permissions to write any files that aren't world writable. --upas-urysejxauqpanpsalirvimquxc Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Mon Jul 7 02:23:21 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Mon Jul 7 02:23:18 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8D9A519BF7; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 02:23:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7448519B27; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 02:23:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4C6B419AEC; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 02:22:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx2.net.titech.ac.jp (mx2.net.titech.ac.jp [131.112.125.31]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id A3C3519A0D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 02:22:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 47630 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 06:22:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vc2.net.titech.ac.jp) (131.112.125.36) by mx2.net.titech.ac.jp with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 06:22:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO o.cc.titech.ac.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 06:22:32 -0000 Received: from p9t by mail-o.cc.titech.ac.jp (8.11.3/1.1.10.5/20Feb97-0455PM) id h676MRK261344; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:22:32 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: YAMANASHI Takeshi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] can any user create files as bootes? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:22:22 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) If a user login but the home directory doesn't exist, the user lands on somewhere like /usr/bootes and the user seemingly keeps the permission of bootes. But the user looses the permission once he have issued a `cd' command with an absolute path as its argument. Does this just happen only on my plan 9 system? I attched the transcription: % nashi@p9t telnet -r aman connected to tcp!aman!telnet on /net/tcp/1 user: mma challenge: 92119 response: 55feacc3 aman# aman# pwd /usr/bootes aman# ls /usr /usr/bootes /usr/glenda /usr/nashi /usr/sysnashi aman# aman# ls -l hoge --rw-rw-r-- M 8 bootes bootes 0 Jul 7 15:12 hoge aman# rm hoge aman# ls -l hoge ls: hoge: 'hoge' directory entry not found aman# touch hoge aman# ls -l hoge --rw-rw-r-- M 8 bootes bootes 0 Jul 7 15:13 hoge aman# cd ../../usr/bootes aman# ls -l fuga ls: fuga: 'fuga' directory entry not found aman# touch fuga aman# ls -l fuga --rw-rw-r-- M 8 bootes bootes 0 Jul 7 15:14 fuga aman# aman# aman# cd /usr/bootes aman# ls -l foo ls: foo: 'foo' directory entry not found aman# touch foo touch: foo: cannot create: access permission denied aman# rm hoge rm: hoge: access permission denied aman# rm fuga rm: fuga: access permission denied aman# aman# exit --upas-urysejxauqpanpsalirvimquxc-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 7 23:56:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; 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Tue Jul 8 00:17:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12880 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 00:17:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12875 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 00:17:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 00:17:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C3F8319C47; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:17:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3644E19C47; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:17:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 85F4B19BEC; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:16:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8EDD919B44 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:16:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19ZXer-00067N-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 07 Jul 2003 16:12:01 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: "Douglas A. Gwyn" Message-ID: <3F097FFF.67E4E455@null.net> Organization: U.S. Army Research Laboratory Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <3F05D809.7030707@null.net>, <7150078ec6d4a983e1bc125e877704f7@collyer.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:10:48 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Geoff Collyer wrote: > Actually 2â?łâ?˛ is a fairly big number in the context of 9P read & > write byte counts (which is what Rob was talking about). I don't > think I've ever read or written 4,294,967,296 bytes (or even close to > that many) in a single operation. It's not what you have done in the past, but what somebody might reasonably want to do in the foreseeable future. 4GB is no longer unimaginably large, even for main RAM size, nor does it take a ridiculous amount of time to transfer it among hosts in modern networks. In my opinion we ought to be able to access the entirety of any given object without having to artificially segment it. > As for efficient integer encodings, at least for this purpose, if we > restricted I/O transfer lengths to powers of 2, we could just supply > the exponent in 9P ... The trouble is that even if the user accepted the power-of-two restriction, this would waste about 50% of the channel bandwidth. What I had in mind was something like Ken Thompson once devised, a variable-length integer format. Without built-in language support, though, this tends to bog down computation. It seems there should be some nice balance between computability and flexibility.. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 00:17:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 00:17:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12866 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 00:17:18 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12862 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 00:17:18 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 00:17:18 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E619819C45; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:17:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D050119BEC; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:17:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CE75F19BEC; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:16:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 82FED19B44 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:16:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19ZXes-00067T-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 07 Jul 2003 16:12:02 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: "Douglas A. Gwyn" Message-ID: <3F097DAB.AA390545@null.net> Organization: U.S. Army Research Laboratory Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <002301c3436c$d1cb5ac0$d2944251@insultant.net>, <1057567366.751.179.camel@pc118> Subject: Re: [9fans] sam chatter Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:11:03 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) John Murdie wrote: > On Sat 2003-07-05 at 14:34 Dan Cross wrote: > > (1) Dragging below the boundary of the current window should > > cause the window to scroll, selecting new text as it I've sometimes wished for it. The workaround is to save dot within the current window, find the end of the desired text, then set dot to range from the old value to the desired end. If this is rarely needed then it's not worth the amount of hackery that it would take to implement (I looked into doing it once and gave up). From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 00:48:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 00:48:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13699 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 00:48:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13695 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 00:48:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 00:48:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 596AE19C4B; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:48:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 13B4419BEC; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:48:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 586EC19C48; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:47:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.mightycheese.com (mail.mightycheese.com [209.61.186.18]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 92FF119C38 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:47:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [216.239.45.4] (HELO glenda.corp.google.com) by mail.mightycheese.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 697601 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 07 Jul 2003 10:54:58 -0500 Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] 'find' From: "rob pike, esq." In-Reply-To: <3F07C5D3.7030808@null.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:46:45 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > What's wrong with grep pattern foo is that it acts differently > from grep pattern foo1 foo2. Whether or not the filename is > displayed as a prefix should be controlled by a command option, > not by how many file arguments there are. i tend to agree. nowadays i use bald 'grep' only on stdin and use a wrapper shell script to look for things in the file system. the script adds the -n option and a /dev/null on the end to force file names. but that's after years (hell, decades) of use. i also agree that the original design was brilliant. in an age when command lines were the only user interface, grep's behavior was a model of thinking of how the user would use the tool. i don't think most users even noticed the behavior for a long time after they became adept with it. today, you'd never write grep the same way. it would be more regular, cleaner, probably noisier, and certainly less user-friendly. -rob From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 00:50:18 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 00:50:18 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13715 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 00:50:17 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13711 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 00:50:17 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 00:50:17 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5AD0B19C38; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:50:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2310A199E6; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:50:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 484D719A20; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:49:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.mightycheese.com (mail.mightycheese.com [209.61.186.18]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 644A119A14 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:49:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [216.239.45.4] (HELO glenda.corp.google.com) by mail.mightycheese.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 697604 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 07 Jul 2003 10:56:45 -0500 Message-ID: <0ecb9b15ba9f3534a79e8cc3e4f4cc2c@mightycheese.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? From: "rob pike, esq." In-Reply-To: <3F05D809.7030707@null.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:48:33 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >> 65536 is not a very big number in modern i/o systems. > > Actally neither is 2^32. sometimes you become boyd-like in your contrarianism. 2^32 is a huge block size, even today, while 2^16 is not. hence the increase in the field. > What the world needs is an efficient variable-length > encoding of unsigned integers. not as much as it needs simple protocols. -rob From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 00:52:23 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 00:52:23 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13758 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 00:52:23 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13754 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 00:52:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 00:52:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1186219C33; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:52:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EB62519B42; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:52:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3FEE619BEC; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:51:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.mightycheese.com (mail.mightycheese.com [209.61.186.18]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 820BB199E1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:51:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [216.239.45.4] (HELO glenda.corp.google.com) by mail.mightycheese.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 697606 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 07 Jul 2003 10:59:09 -0500 Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? From: "rob pike, esq." In-Reply-To: <7150078ec6d4a983e1bc125e877704f7@collyer.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:50:56 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > As for efficient integer encodings, at least for this purpose, if we > restricted I/O transfer lengths to powers of 2, we could just supply > the exponent in 9P (e.g., 16 in a length field in 9P would represent > 2â±â¶=65,536). âş We could get away with a single byte for length fields, > even a signed byte. and when you issued a 2^10 byte read and receive 318 bytes back, how would you represent the return count? -rob From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 00:56:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 00:56:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13870 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 00:56:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13866 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 00:56:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 00:56:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8243F19C48; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:56:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2667619B42; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:56:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4248819A14; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:55:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.mightycheese.com (mail.mightycheese.com [209.61.186.18]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8192119C42 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:55:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [216.239.45.4] (HELO glenda.corp.google.com) by mail.mightycheese.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 697614 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 07 Jul 2003 11:02:49 -0500 Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] sam chatter From: "rob pike, esq." In-Reply-To: <3F097DAB.AA390545@null.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:54:36 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >> On Sat 2003-07-05 at 14:34 Dan Cross wrote: >> > (1) Dragging below the boundary of the current window should >> > cause the window to scroll, selecting new text as it > > I've sometimes wished for it. The workaround is to save dot > within the current window, find the end of the desired text, > then set dot to range from the old value to the desired end. > If this is rarely needed then it's not worth the amount of > hackery that it would take to implement (I looked into doing > it once and gave up). the 'k' command assists the work-around. -rob From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 00:59:23 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 00:59:23 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13950 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 00:59:22 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13946 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 00:59:22 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 00:59:22 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C220F19C52; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:59:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7751719C43; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:59:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 60FE019C43; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:58:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from edoras.nas.com (edoras.nas.com [206.63.100.8]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 855C219A14 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:58:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nas.com (unknown [164.116.190.46]) by edoras.nas.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD64EB3D1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F0998BB.30409@nas.com> From: Jack Johnson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030416 Thunderbird/0.1a X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? References: <0ecb9b15ba9f3534a79e8cc3e4f4cc2c@mightycheese.com> In-Reply-To: <0ecb9b15ba9f3534a79e8cc3e4f4cc2c@mightycheese.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 08:58:51 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) rob pike, esq. wrote: >>What the world needs is an efficient variable-length >>encoding of unsigned integers. > > not as much as it needs simple protocols. I keep getting stuck on, you know, world peace. How's that for a simple protocol. -Jack From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 01:05:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 01:05:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 14183 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 01:05:23 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 14179 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 01:05:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 01:05:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EC95519A14; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 12:05:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 331C919C4F; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 12:05:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 61DA619C3F; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 12:05:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from skeeve.com (80.179.113.222.forward.012.net.il [80.179.113.222]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DC39619A14 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 12:04:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aahz.skeeve.com (aahz [127.0.0.1]) by skeeve.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h64LhMlu002722 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 00:43:27 +0300 Received: (from arnold@localhost) by aahz.skeeve.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h64K6VpF014812 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 23:06:31 +0300 From: Aharon Robbins Message-Id: <200307042006.h64K6VpF014812@aahz.skeeve.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] other versions of 9wm Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 23:06:31 +0300 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Does anyone have their own hacks to 9wm? Or know of any? I'm sort of toying with the idea of merging versions and doing a new release. I have David's pre-1.2-9wm dated August of 1996. Most other things I've seen have been based on 1.1. I also have w9wm 0.4.0. In a side note, it seems that notes I post from the news system aren't making it back onto the list. At least, I don't see them. Thanks, Arnold Robbins From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 01:10:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 01:10:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 14332 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 01:10:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 14328 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 01:10:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 01:10:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3F01119C56; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 12:10:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2C87419C1A; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 12:10:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7E3EB19AED; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 12:09:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9E88419B42 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 12:09:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h67G9TeH004219 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:09:29 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h67G9T6G004215 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:09:29 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] other versions of 9wm In-Reply-To: <200307042006.h64K6VpF014812@aahz.skeeve.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:09:29 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~mirtchov/ports/9wm-1.2.tar.gz that's the one I use (sorry for posting the link again -- not sure if you have seen this already...) andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 01:15:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 01:15:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 14528 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 01:15:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 14524 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 01:15:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 01:15:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7C0A019C57; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 12:15:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 42AD319C3F; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 12:15:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 373D519C43; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 12:14:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from galapagos.cse.psu.edu (galapagos.cse.psu.edu [130.203.12.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id B0EE619C1A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 12:14:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26323 invoked by uid 991); 7 Jul 2003 16:14:46 -0000 Message-ID: <20030707161446.26322.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] other versions of 9wm In-reply-to: <200307042006.h64K6VpF014812@aahz.skeeve.com> References: <200307042006.h64K6VpF014812@aahz.skeeve.com> Comments: In-reply-to Aharon Robbins message dated "Fri, 04 Jul 2003 23:06:31 +0300." From: Scott Schwartz Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 12:14:46 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) | In a side note, it seems that notes I post from the news system | aren't making it back onto the list. At least, I don't see them. Is that just recently? We've been tinkering with spam filters, and you might be getting caught by spamassassin. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 01:59:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 01:59:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15722 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 01:59:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15718 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 01:59:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 01:59:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4203919C4E; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 12:59:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 95DE019A21; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 12:59:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6842A19AED; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 12:58:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7A1C219A21 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 12:58:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] verifying CD vs. iso image In-Reply-To: <003201c34480$1e46e090$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-kskfmfatztfcokodvntnzwrzzq" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 12:58:14 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-kskfmfatztfcokodvntnzwrzzq Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How about sum file sum /dev/sdD0/data ? --upas-kskfmfatztfcokodvntnzwrzzq Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Mon Jul 7 08:06:22 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Mon Jul 7 08:06:19 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EE10619C2E; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:06:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B69FE19A7F; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:06:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 345E319C1C; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:05:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz (clusterb.asuch.cas.cz [147.231.136.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 43BB919A7F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:05:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from picture ([147.231.139.42]) by XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 7 Jul 2003 14:05:55 +0200 Message-ID: <003201c34480$1e46e090$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> From: "pac" To: "9fans" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2003 12:05:55.0058 (UTC) FILETIME=[1E40ED20:01C34480] Subject: [9fans] verifying CD vs. iso image Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 14:05:55 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi folks, can you show me how to compare (checksums of) CD-R versus its original iso image (used to be copied to /mnt/cd/wd)? I don't know how to access the raw data on the CD (I feel that it should be some trick with with /dev/sdC1/ctl or /dev/sdC1/raw ... ) Also, I've got trapped in (presumably easy to write) script to compare all files in two (intentionally identical) directories. Just something like cmp filelist1 filelist2. I ended up with ugly enough catting everything together and piping it to cmp :-((( Beg for your help here, too. I must be an idiot, or what. Cheers, ++pac. --upas-kskfmfatztfcokodvntnzwrzzq-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 02:04:23 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 02:04:23 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15802 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 02:04:23 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15798 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 02:04:22 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 02:04:22 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 307E519C54; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 13:04:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1A87719A21; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 13:04:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6889719AED; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 13:03:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D4BAD19A21 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 13:03:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [9fans] verifying CD vs. iso image From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 13:03:39 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Just tried. Looks like this is the right mantra sum file cdfs sum /mnt/cd/d000 Otherwise you're also comparing the fixated directory. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 04:10:24 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 04:10:24 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 18239 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 04:10:23 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 18235 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 04:10:22 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 04:10:22 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5389F19C3F; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:10:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B9FAA19A20; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:10:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 41FBC199FD; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:09:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7F2BD199D2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:09:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04565 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:09:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h67J90715367 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:09:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307071909.h67J90715367@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] 'find' In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 07 Jul 2003 08:33:44 GMT." <3F07C5D3.7030808@null.net> From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 15:08:59 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > >>err, this *does* beg the question; what's wrong with `grep pattern foo'? > > yes > > What's wrong with grep pattern foo is that it acts differently > from grep pattern foo1 foo2. Whether or not the filename is > displayed as a prefix should be controlled by a command option, > not by how many file arguments there are. grep pattern ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:14:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05216 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:13:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h67JDx715471 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:13:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307071913.h67JDx715471@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] 'find' In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 07 Jul 2003 13:28:47 GMT." <18a5.3f0970d7.252b7@blake.inputplus.co.uk> From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 15:13:59 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > > > > > err, this *does* beg the question; what's wrong with `grep pattern > > foo'? > > Read my post again, including the part I quoted and replied to. The OP > wants the pattern to be at the end of the line for easy editing. Aha! I should pay more attention to what's going on. - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 04:19:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 04:19:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 18399 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 04:19:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 18395 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 04:19:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 04:19:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 16B6B19C5B; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:19:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 05E1C19C46; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:19:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3095819C49; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:18:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 82FA719A70 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:18:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05755 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:18:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h67JIL715585 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:18:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307071918.h67JIL715585@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] 'find' In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 07 Jul 2003 08:46:45 PDT." From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 15:18:21 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > today, you'd never write grep the same way. it would be more regular, > cleaner, probably noisier, and certainly less user-friendly. That scares me. I don't wish to become a slave to the user interface. Even though I already am, I'd like to spare my next life if I can. - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 04:22:24 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 04:22:24 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 18436 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 04:22:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 18432 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 04:22:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 04:22:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3BFF419C4D; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:22:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F205919C4D; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:22:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1265219C4D; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:21:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 64FAB19C46 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:21:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06180 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:21:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h67JLE715634 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:21:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307071921.h67JLE715634@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] 'find' In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 07 Jul 2003 15:08:59 EDT." <200307071909.h67J90715367@augusta.math.psu.edu> From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 15:21:13 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > grep pattern ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:26:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <40911c5cbc67cacdc08cd4b316dc9c82@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] 'find' In-Reply-To: <200307071918.h67JIL715585@augusta.math.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-dbgllricckkssbjdwkythzkfic" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:26:42 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-dbgllricckkssbjdwkythzkfic Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When are you adding 'browse' as an option to grep? --upas-dbgllricckkssbjdwkythzkfic Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Mon Jul 7 15:19:22 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Mon Jul 7 15:19:20 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A21FC19C59; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:19:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8784919C4D; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:19:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3095819C49; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:18:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 82FA719A70 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:18:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05755 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:18:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h67JIL715585 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:18:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307071918.h67JIL715585@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] 'find' In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 07 Jul 2003 08:46:45 PDT." From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 15:18:21 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > today, you'd never write grep the same way. it would be more regular, > cleaner, probably noisier, and certainly less user-friendly. That scares me. I don't wish to become a slave to the user interface. Even though I already am, I'd like to spare my next life if I can. - Dan C. --upas-dbgllricckkssbjdwkythzkfic-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 04:47:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 04:47:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 18899 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 04:47:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 18895 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 04:47:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 04:47:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5C68319A0C; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:47:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1084019A60; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:47:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 49BB419A0C; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:46:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9ECE519A27 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:46:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10659 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:46:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h67JkD715845 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:46:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307071946.h67JkD715845@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] 'find' In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 07 Jul 2003 15:26:42 EDT." <40911c5cbc67cacdc08cd4b316dc9c82@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 15:46:12 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > When are you adding 'browse' as an option to grep? Right after I add support for GNU-style long options and build in a LISP interpreter so I can turn it into an emacs module. - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 05:37:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 05:37:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 19635 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 05:37:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 19631 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 05:37:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 05:37:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3091419A8E; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:37:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B668819A40; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:37:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1907719A60; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:36:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from epaphras.inhouse.cnm-vra.com (epaphras.cnm-vra.com [208.21.241.46]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 73F1219A07 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:36:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by epaphras.inhouse.cnm-vra.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A01DFCE61; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 13:36:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Micah Stetson To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] PDF errors Message-ID: <20030707203617.GB2629@epaphras.inhouse.cnm-vra.com> References: <20030703215531.GA22516@epaphras.inhouse.cnm-vra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 13:36:17 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 11:54:22AM -0400, David Presotto wrote: > We're currently up to > > AFPL Ghostscript 8.00 (2002-11-21) > > That seems to work. I'll make sure it > finds its way to sources, though it make > take a while, I'm on a very flakey ppp link > this week. Thanks. I'm in no hurry. Micah From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 05:39:19 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 05:39:19 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 19647 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 05:39:19 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 19643 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 05:39:19 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 05:39:19 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 553D019A97; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:39:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8293C19A40; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:39:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 13A3019A07; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:38:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-08.noos.net [212.198.2.77]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1EB7419A40 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:38:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5108850 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jul 2003 20:38:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.77 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 7 Jul 2003 20:38:36 -0000 Message-ID: <001401c344c7$b8d42f40$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 22:38:28 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > and when you issued a 2^10 byte read and receive 318 bytes back, > how would you represent the return count? that's the problem. 2^16 and 2^32 are no longer large numbers, but you can't expect the read return to be a power of two. simple, sufficient protocols are the way to go -- much as i am contrary ... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 05:42:24 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 05:42:24 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 19684 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 05:42:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 19680 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 05:42:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 05:42:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9032A19A7F; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:42:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8646719A60; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:42:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6615419A60; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:41:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8ABBC19A07 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:41:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: David Presotto To: micah@cnm-vra.com, 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] PDF errors MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-enycndnxmwkotshtccwlsyobie" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:41:02 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-enycndnxmwkotshtccwlsyobie Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, rsc says that version has problems also. I'll leave it be till russ gets back from his summer hiatus. He wants to restructure the distribution and that will be part of it. --upas-enycndnxmwkotshtccwlsyobie Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Mon Jul 7 16:37:24 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Mon Jul 7 16:37:22 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1CF8719A60; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:37:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D6EC619A07; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:37:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1907719A60; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:36:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from epaphras.inhouse.cnm-vra.com (epaphras.cnm-vra.com [208.21.241.46]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 73F1219A07 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:36:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by epaphras.inhouse.cnm-vra.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A01DFCE61; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 13:36:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Micah Stetson To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] PDF errors Message-ID: <20030707203617.GB2629@epaphras.inhouse.cnm-vra.com> References: <20030703215531.GA22516@epaphras.inhouse.cnm-vra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 13:36:17 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 11:54:22AM -0400, David Presotto wrote: > We're currently up to > > AFPL Ghostscript 8.00 (2002-11-21) > > That seems to work. I'll make sure it > finds its way to sources, though it make > take a while, I'm on a very flakey ppp link > this week. Thanks. I'm in no hurry. Micah --upas-enycndnxmwkotshtccwlsyobie-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 05:43:18 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 05:43:18 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 19700 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 05:43:18 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 19696 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 05:43:18 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 05:43:18 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 79AD419B44; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:43:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D0CF419A91; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:43:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 52F0B19C49; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:42:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-10.noos.net [212.198.2.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6855319A60 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:42:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 94724079 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jul 2003 20:42:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.81 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 7 Jul 2003 20:42:14 -0000 Message-ID: <001d01c344c8$3a91fda0$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] sam chatter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 22:42:06 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > the 'k' command assists the work-around. yeah the non scrolling as you select has annoyed me a lot. but, so does the scrolling menu stuff on button 3. it's really hard to get right, so i use 'k'. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 05:47:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 05:47:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 19747 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 05:47:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 19743 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 05:47:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 05:47:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3C0A319A6B; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:47:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E1C3F19A9A; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:47:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8148519AA1; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:46:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-06.noos.net [212.198.2.75]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AA58919A60 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:46:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5814002 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jul 2003 20:46:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.75 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 7 Jul 2003 20:46:27 -0000 Message-ID: <003c01c344c8$d110e840$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] verifying CD vs. iso image MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 22:46:18 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) err, cmp? http://plan9.bell-labs.com/magic/man2html?man=cmp§=1 From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 05:55:27 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 05:55:27 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 19980 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 05:55:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 19976 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 05:55:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 05:55:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BAD1D19C59; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:55:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2320219AA1; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:55:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D6BAB19AA1; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:54:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from collyer.net (adsl-63-192-14-226.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.192.14.226]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DABF719A02 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:54:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4af0037323b00537481a99c1f57e5196@collyer.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? From: Geoff Collyer In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 13:54:51 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > and when you issued a 2^10 byte read and receive 318 bytes back, > > how would you represent the return count? It was a joke suggestion, but obviously only the length fields in the requests could be encoded as binary logarithms, the responses would need ordinary integer length fields not only for short reads (and writes, in error cases) but to represent values such as 0 and -1. Clearly, simple protocols are the right way to go. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 06:16:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 06:16:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20287 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 06:16:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20283 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 06:16:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 06:16:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2B7CD19C58; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 17:16:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6000219A2C; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 17:16:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2330D19A8B; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 17:15:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rapido.vitanuova.com (unknown [62.254.170.97]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 44D7519A40 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 17:15:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? From: rog@vitanuova.com In-Reply-To: <001401c344c7$b8d42f40$d2944251@insultant.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 22:18:55 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > simple, sufficient protocols are the way to go -- much as i am contrary ... sufficient for what? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 06:29:43 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 06:29:43 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20426 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 06:29:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20422 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 06:29:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 06:29:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CDB4519C5F; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 17:29:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 899D119A7C; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 17:29:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D7B6B19C39; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 17:28:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-12.noos.net [212.198.2.83]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0C25519A7C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 17:28:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23276692 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jul 2003 21:28:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.83 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 7 Jul 2003 21:28:29 -0000 Message-ID: <008e01c344ce$b04576c0$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 23:28:20 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > sufficient for what? sufficient to do the job. everything is a trade-off ... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 06:30:18 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 06:30:18 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20442 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 06:30:18 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20438 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 06:30:18 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 06:30:18 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7527119C67; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 17:30:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 515D519C5C; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 17:30:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1D71519C46; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 17:29:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7490619A7C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 17:29:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitecrow.demon.co.uk ([194.222.126.246]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19ZdXl-0001qS-0Y for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 07 Jul 2003 22:29:05 +0100 Received: (qmail 11310 invoked by uid 500); 7 Jul 2003 18:40:05 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO whitecrow.demon.co.uk) (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 18:40:05 -0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] other versions of 9wm In-Reply-To: Message from Aharon Robbins of "Fri, 04 Jul 2003 23:06:31 +0300." <200307042006.h64K6VpF014812@aahz.skeeve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Steve Kilbane Message-Id: Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 19:40:05 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Many years ago, I did add a pipe to 9wm, in a similar vein to sam's, and some simple commands that could be used to control it. I put together a virtual window manager with it and some scripts. It was horrible, and thankfully is long gone. :-) steve From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 06:45:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 06:45:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20702 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 06:45:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20698 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 06:45:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 06:45:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C917019A78; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 17:45:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C3EAE19C39; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 17:45:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4492819C46; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 17:44:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-11.noos.net [212.198.2.82]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 60AFF19A78 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 17:44:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 104404578 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jul 2003 21:44:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.82 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 7 Jul 2003 21:44:23 -0000 Message-ID: <009801c344d0$e90f82a0$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] other versions of 9wm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 23:44:14 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) in the X11 version of sam the right place to put the pipe was in samterm, 'cos it fit well with the event library. sam (as many of us know) has a legacy of running a lightweight client in the terminal and the editor ran on the host. but things changed. you have to B near where the pipe is, but the interpretation of the pathname is done by sam, not samterm. i should know, i submitted the code, which was taken from an X11 cut-buffer exchange idea, but rob liked the concept. pride? http://www.ultimate-lyrics.de/texte/bandalbums/albums_l/livingcolour_timessup.htm#Pride From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 07:07:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 07:07:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21121 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 07:07:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21117 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 07:07:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 07:07:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 071F919C55; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:07:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6907919C63; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:07:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E66FB19C55; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:06:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F0DAC19C5C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:06:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h67M5xeH004849 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:05:59 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h67M5xeN004845 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:05:59 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] dd-induced hangs Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:05:59 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) doing 'dd -if /dev/sdC0/arenas -of /dev/sdD0/arenas -bs 8192' hangs the system with 100% reproducibility (though each occurs after a different period of time). the arenas partition is 60GB. running the same command on smaller partitions (fossil, 13GB; isect, 3GB; 9fat, 10MB; nvram, 512B) completes successfully (at 15MB/s transfer rates). none of the processes on the machine are able to do any work, the console is updated when I hit a key (interrupts are processed), but rc doesn't get a chance to print a prompt. the load on the machine before the event wasn't high, but stats showed it peaking at 8000 just before the machine hung. things like ^T^Tp work, and in fact I've captured ^T^Tp, ^T^Tq and ^T^Tx if anyone is interested (^T^Ts doesn't work anymore? it's in the man page). starting the debugger (^T^TD) caused the machine to hang completely and irreversibly. it smells like a race, but my nose isn't that good to be absolutely sure :) andrey ps: i've turned dma off now and am runing the same thing again, but dma off means i'll be able to verify whether the command completed early tomorrow morning. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 07:13:23 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 07:13:23 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21190 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 07:13:22 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21186 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 07:13:21 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 07:13:21 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4573919C68; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:13:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E9FEF19C61; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:13:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B312A19C60; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:12:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.dirac.net (unknown [195.97.240.22]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 29F5519A9A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:12:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1295 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Jul 2003 22:10:18 -0000 Message-ID: <20030707221018.1294.qmail@mail.dirac.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] other versions of 9wm From: Keith Nash Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: 7 Jul 2003 22:10:18 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Does anyone have their own hacks to 9wm? Or know of any? I'm sort of > toying with the idea of merging versions and doing a new release. > > I have David's pre-1.2-9wm dated August of 1996. Most other things I've > seen have been based on 1.1. I also have w9wm 0.4.0. w9wm is now up to 0.4.1: http://www.grassouille.org/w9wm/index.en.shtml There is also larswm, which describes itself as "a hack for 9wm, adding automatic window tiling, virtual desktops and many other features designed to make it a very efficient user environment" - see http://www-personal.umich.edu/~larsb/larswm/ Keith. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 07:20:40 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 07:20:40 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21275 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 07:20:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21271 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 07:20:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 07:20:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2343B19C6D; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:20:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3DC3019C63; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:20:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2DFBF19C63; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:19:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4E9B319C39 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:19:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h67MIseH004904 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:18:54 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h67MIs52004900 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:18:54 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] Re: dd-induced hangs Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:18:54 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) the load jumped to 6, not 8 thousand. the reason was that the ready queue at this time had 6 processes waiting in it -- they piled up immediately after 'the event'... see, i'm reading it and almost understanding it :) the biggest almost in the world ;) From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 07:27:24 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 07:27:24 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21456 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 07:27:23 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21452 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 07:27:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 07:27:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B6E2419C70; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:27:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 593A419C65; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:27:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E0AD819C65; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:26:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F3E6819C39 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:26:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0c4c302ea99c108b3c6ce00e46f2b428@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] dd-induced hangs In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-xydrlfkmumidsxxvgyhmlrxjww" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:26:39 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-xydrlfkmumidsxxvgyhmlrxjww Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit smells like one to me also. We should be able to recreate it. --upas-xydrlfkmumidsxxvgyhmlrxjww Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Mon Jul 7 18:07:24 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Mon Jul 7 18:07:22 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2B6AF19C65; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:07:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 29CBB19C46; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:07:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E66FB19C55; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:06:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F0DAC19C5C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:06:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h67M5xeH004849 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:05:59 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h67M5xeN004845 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:05:59 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] dd-induced hangs Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:05:59 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) doing 'dd -if /dev/sdC0/arenas -of /dev/sdD0/arenas -bs 8192' hangs the system with 100% reproducibility (though each occurs after a different period of time). the arenas partition is 60GB. running the same command on smaller partitions (fossil, 13GB; isect, 3GB; 9fat, 10MB; nvram, 512B) completes successfully (at 15MB/s transfer rates). none of the processes on the machine are able to do any work, the console is updated when I hit a key (interrupts are processed), but rc doesn't get a chance to print a prompt. the load on the machine before the event wasn't high, but stats showed it peaking at 8000 just before the machine hung. things like ^T^Tp work, and in fact I've captured ^T^Tp, ^T^Tq and ^T^Tx if anyone is interested (^T^Ts doesn't work anymore? it's in the man page). starting the debugger (^T^TD) caused the machine to hang completely and irreversibly. it smells like a race, but my nose isn't that good to be absolutely sure :) andrey ps: i've turned dma off now and am runing the same thing again, but dma off means i'll be able to verify whether the command completed early tomorrow morning. --upas-xydrlfkmumidsxxvgyhmlrxjww-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 07:49:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 07:49:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21859 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 07:49:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21855 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 07:49:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 07:49:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DCF0D19C6F; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:49:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1443819C66; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:49:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9934919C66; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:48:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AC11B19C5C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:48:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h67MmSeH004974 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:48:28 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h67MmS0l004970 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:48:28 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] other versions of 9wm In-Reply-To: <20030707221018.1294.qmail@mail.dirac.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:48:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) the 'virtual desktop' business is the one that I'm most interested in having, though I haven't used any virtual desktops for the past year and a half (both in rio and in the 9wm that I use)... it's a pain on smaller screens... someday I'll hack 4 virtual desktops into Rio just to piss people enough so that they do it better on their own. no need for buttons and nice 'virtual console managers' -- take the fvwm approach and switch consoles by 'pressing' the mouse against the end of the screen in the direction of the console you want ;) there'll be flashy text indicating which console you've just switched to. the letters would fade slowly and elegantly. in fact, there _should_ be a virtual console manager present... maybe even two -- one at the top, one at the bottom, showing a minimized view of the screen (see the screenshot at: http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~mirtchov/screenshots/scr-plan9.png we're half way there!) andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 08:20:20 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 08:20:20 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 22414 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 08:20:19 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 22410 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 08:20:19 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 08:20:19 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 62F7E19C73; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 19:20:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3CE3A19C66; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 19:20:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B3EBA19C66; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 19:19:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rapido.vitanuova.com (unknown [62.254.170.97]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 467F419A7C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 19:19:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: rog@vitanuova.com In-Reply-To: <008e01c344ce$b04576c0$d2944251@insultant.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] simple, sufficient Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 00:23:10 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > sufficient for what? > > sufficient to do the job. everything is a trade-off ... there are many different jobs... some might even require >4GB unit transfer sizes to accomplish the job efficiently enough. for another, maybe 9p2000's extra 8 byte overhead on a Tread compared to old 9p might make a crucial difference. "simple and sufficient" is a platitude: i don't think anyone really wants to introduce complexity for its own sake, and what's the point in implementing something if it's not sufficient for the task you want to solve? what i think we're really after is... simple and *insufficient*; :-) choose the things you *won't* be able to do (e.g. read >4GB in a chunk, associate arbitrary metadata on a file) in order to gain simplicity overall. isn't this the reason for plan 9's beauty, and conversely perhaps, one reason for its lack of popularity? trade-offs (particularly trade-offs involving the sacrifice of some potential feature in return for ill-defined simplicity) are hard. many people are unwilling to make them; hence endlessly increasing bloat. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 09:50:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 09:50:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 26025 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 09:50:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 26021 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 09:50:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 09:50:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5641E19C5C; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 20:50:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 31F5719C39; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 20:50:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1A67319C07; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 20:49:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailrelay1.lanl.gov (mailrelay1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.101]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 18C7319A7C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 20:49:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay1.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h680ncte022369 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:49:38 -0600 Received: from maxroach.lanl.gov (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h680ncUk004920 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:49:38 -0600 From: ron minnich To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? In-Reply-To: <3F097FFF.67E4E455@null.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:49:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Or keep it simple and in 9p2001 just grow it to 64 bits. Seems to me that's what the version field can buy you. ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 10:56:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 10:56:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 29196 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 10:56:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 29192 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 10:56:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 10:56:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4EA8419C1B; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 21:56:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5A27119A9A; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 21:56:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 490FC19C1B; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 21:55:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from joxer.acsu.buffalo.edu (joxer.acsu.buffalo.edu [128.205.7.120]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id A0CE319A6A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 21:55:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5425 invoked by uid 6540); 8 Jul 2003 01:55:50 -0000 From: Jack R Lawler X-Sender: lawler@joxer.acsu.buffalo.edu To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] no text mode with NVIDIA Geforce2 MX200 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 21:55:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) With this new card I do not have any visible text mode. When I boot up the BIOS messages are visible but then the p9 boot messages and the login prompt are not visible. After I log in, my rio windows appear and they work great. Thanks for any help for a novice. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 11:50:27 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 11:50:27 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 31906 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 11:50:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 31902 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 11:50:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 11:50:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4154819C78; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 22:50:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6244719C66; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 22:50:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E493319C6E; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 22:49:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgristroph-austin.ath.cx (cs24362-19.austin.rr.com [24.243.62.19]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1846519C39 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 22:49:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgr by rgristroph-austin.ath.cx with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19ZiYK-0008T1-00; Mon, 07 Jul 2003 21:50:00 -0500 From: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org (Rob Ristroph) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] no rio ? References: <2defc5740114720fe24f65d6045eef21@plan9.bell-labs.com> In-Reply-To: <2defc5740114720fe24f65d6045eef21@plan9.bell-labs.com> Message-ID: <878yr97mw7.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> Lines: 62 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: 07 Jul 2003 21:50:00 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_GNUS_UA version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >>>>> "David" == David Presotto writes: David> David> - are $monitor and $vgasize set to anything? David> - is aux/vga actually loading vga mode? David> - if $monitor and $vgasize are set, what happens when you run David> David> aux/vga -m $monitor -l $vgasizeFrom: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org (Rob Ristroph) David> Subject: [9fans] no rio ? David> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu David> Date: 06 Jul 2003 16:48:50 -0500 David> Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu David> David> David> I downloaded the latest plan9.iso.bz2 from the web, and when I David> installed it everything went ok, except that after rebooting I got David> only the term% prompt and no graphical mode. I have installed Plan9 David> on this hardware several times (earlier versions from a week or more David> ago). Also the floppy install had no problems bringing up the David> graphical mode. David> David> So I think this might be a glitch with some recent update. David> David> This is the error message: David> David> rio: can't open display: initdisplay: /dev/draw/new: no frame buffer David> init: rc exit status: rio 12: display open David> David> init: starting /bin/rc David> term% David> David> Has anyone else installing a recent Plan 9 ( in the last week or so ) David> had a similar problem ? David> David> --Rob David> ---------- David> I can't answer your questions; I first wiped the machine and installed another OS to test the hardware, and then I re-downloaded Plan 9 this morning and tried again; this time Plan 9 won't overwrite the MBR, so the old OS's bootloader keeps coming up, no matter how many times I do "bootsetup" from the floppy. So right now I can't even get to the term% prompt. Then I took my last remaining working Plan 9 box and wiped the drive with dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda with a linux boot floppy, and tried the latest Plan 9 on it; the install process goes fine and then it just hangs right after running the BIOS; looking at the boot record again from the linux floppy confirms that Plan 9 didn't put anything there. I made a second floppy and a new CDROM and got the same results, so it's not my media. Since installing another OS on the same drive appears to work fine, I don't think it is my hardware. I suppose I could have gotten three successive broken ISO downloads, but it seems unlikely. I'm not going to have time to work on this project for a few days, so I think I'll wait and see if other people have similar problems, and if not start from scratch again. --Rob From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 14:02:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 14:02:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 5879 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 14:02:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 5875 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 14:02:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 14:02:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2CCFD199F0; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 01:02:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1ECAD19AA8; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 01:02:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D424119A6D; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 01:01:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz (clusterb.asuch.cas.cz [147.231.136.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DD620199F0 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 01:01:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from picture ([147.231.139.42]) by XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:01:25 +0200 Message-ID: <002201c3450d$fbedc160$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> From: "pac" To: "9fans" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2003 05:01:25.0941 (UTC) FILETIME=[FBE3D650:01C3450D] Subject: [9fans] verifying CD vs. iso image Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:01:25 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Just tried. Looks like this is the right mantra > > sum file > cdfs > sum /mnt/cd/d000 > > Otherwise you're also comparing the fixated directory.Yes. I ended up with the same after some experimenting yesterday. My mistake was to search for raw data in /dev/sdD0/Now I can use cmp, sum, or whatever I wish. Thanks for response, and excuse my silliness!++pac. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 17:47:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 17:47:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15930 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 17:47:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15926 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 17:47:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 17:47:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B823B19C7C; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 04:47:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9840E19C79; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 04:47:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 593BF19C75; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 04:47:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 85B0319C76 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 04:46:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19ZnvI-00022j-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Tue, 08 Jul 2003 09:34:04 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: "Douglas A. Gwyn" Message-ID: <3F09EA55.FC079DAC@null.net> Organization: U.S. Army Research Laboratory Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200307071909.h67J90715367@augusta.math.psu.edu>, <200307071921.h67JLE715634@augusta.math.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] 'find' Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 08:31:50 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Dan Cross wrote: > > grep pattern Just a note lest some pedant jump at me from behind the shadows while > I'm otherwise preoccupied. I'm assuming, of course, that file* matches > more than one file in the above examples. Actually in most Bourne shells the first file* is never expanded. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 17:47:41 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 17:47:41 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15950 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 17:47:39 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15946 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 17:47:38 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 17:47:38 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 369C519C84; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 04:47:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 095B619C81; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 04:47:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 82E6D199F2; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 04:47:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9303C19C72 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 04:46:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19ZnvI-00022p-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Tue, 08 Jul 2003 09:34:04 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: "Douglas A. Gwyn" Message-ID: <3F09EDB7.626FE4F5@null.net> Organization: U.S. Army Research Laboratory Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <3F05D809.7030707@null.net>, <0ecb9b15ba9f3534a79e8cc3e4f4cc2c@mightycheese.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 08:32:01 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) "rob pike, esq." wrote: > >> 65536 is not a very big number in modern i/o systems. > > Actally neither is 2^32. > sometimes you become boyd-like in your contrarianism. > 2^32 is a huge block size, even today, while 2^16 is not. Perhaps I'm getting tired of engineers always tweaking size fields up by a small amount every time they become too small. If you've had to deal with large IDE drives on BIOSes more than a couple of years old you know what I mean. Ever-increasing-size FAT filesystem formats are another example. Utility software that is even slightly old keeps turning out to be unable to cope with new developments, due mainly to inadequate bits in existing formats. Why should there be such a drain on developer resources to continually adapt to changing formats when we could do it right for once and for all? My rule of thumb used to be that whatever the biggest size you can imagine for some object, allocate twice as many bits to hold its size as seem sufficient. But even that approach doesn't survive for the decades that ought to be attainable for things like disk descriptors. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 18:06:27 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 18:06:27 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 16743 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 18:06:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 16739 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 18:06:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 18:06:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1E59B19C87; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 05:06:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DAB0319C76; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 05:06:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0592219C76; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 05:05:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from faui03.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (faui03.informatik.uni-erlangen.de [131.188.30.103]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0EBA919AC1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 05:05:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from folly.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by faui03.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h689556O019810 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 11:05:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: by folly.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Postfix, from userid 31451) id A61652D041; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 11:05:53 +0200 (CEST) From: Markus Friedl To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] sam chatter Message-ID: <20030708090553.GC32354@folly> References: <200307051834.h65IYu704913@augusta.math.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200307051834.h65IYu704913@augusta.math.psu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 11:05:53 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 02:34:56PM -0400, Dan Cross wrote: > (3) Unix sam's samterm interface should be updated > to look like the (much more asthetically pleasing) > Plan 9 version. By this, I mean in terms of > color schemes, et al. has anyone looked into 'updating' 9wm to the 4th edition look-and-feel? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 18:17:27 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 18:17:27 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 17241 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 18:17:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 17237 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 18:17:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 18:17:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A066E19C72; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 05:17:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 69FDF19C72; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 05:17:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 130D719C76; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 05:16:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from prunelle.tombob.com (82-41-200-130.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [82.41.200.130]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2F02819AC1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 05:16:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5e43d074072fa8d51567dfdf8a565722@tombob.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] other versions of 9wm From: plan9@blueyonder.co.uk In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:16:22 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) For virtual desktops, you could just run rios in windows. That's about as virtual as you can get, I'd have thought. (Although, make sure you leave a bit of the original backround visible, so's you can switch between desktops.) Robby From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 18:47:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 18:47:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 18086 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 18:47:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 18082 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 18:47:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 18:47:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E75A819C8E; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 05:47:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 03BF419AEF; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 05:47:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5059719AF0; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 05:46:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 79F2119AE6 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 05:46:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19ZopC-00031I-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Tue, 08 Jul 2003 10:31:50 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Anthony Mandic Message-ID: <3F0A8C03.584A047A@hotmail.com> Organization: Mandic Consulting Pty. Ltd. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <200307042006.h64K6VpF014812@aahz.skeeve.com>, <20030707161446.26322.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] other versions of 9wm Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 09:31:32 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,SEMIFORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Scott Schwartz wrote: > > | In a side note, it seems that notes I post from the news system > | aren't making it back onto the list. At least, I don't see them. > > Is that just recently? We've been tinkering with spam filters, > and you might be getting caught by spamassassin. Does that also explain why, when going thru the comp.os.plan9 newsgroup, it takes forever and a day for the post to show up? -am © 2003 From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 19:16:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 19:16:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 18920 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 19:16:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 18916 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 19:16:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 19:16:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7A73A19C8F; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 06:16:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D654819C94; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 06:16:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 79C0019C90; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 06:16:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-10.noos.net [212.198.2.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 911C319C71 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 06:15:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 94644682 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jul 2003 10:15:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.81 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 8 Jul 2003 10:15:57 -0000 Message-ID: <000f01c34539$e6fb7f00$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <2defc5740114720fe24f65d6045eef21@plan9.bell-labs.com> <878yr97mw7.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> Subject: Re: [9fans] no rio ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 12:15:48 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I can't answer your questions; I first wiped the machine and installed > another OS to test the hardware, and then I re-downloaded Plan 9 this > morning and tried again; this time Plan 9 won't overwrite the MBR, so > the old OS's bootloader keeps coming up, no matter how many times I do > "bootsetup" from the floppy. So right now I can't even get to the > term% prompt. ahh, i've got into that loop with windows 2000. in my case it had written the MBR, but i had forgotten [re]move plan9.ini that it had booted off. off course, my case was special 'cos this was a USB floppy install on a VAIO so my plan9.ini was in c:\ once moved to oplan9.ini it booted fine. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 19:23:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 19:23:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 19091 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 19:23:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 19087 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 19:23:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 19:23:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7726619C9E; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 06:23:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8772819C96; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 06:23:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3834819C97; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 06:22:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from larch (unknown [195.173.15.12]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 530CA19C94 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 06:22:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: steve.simon@snellwilcox.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] win32 rx server, 9pany ? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 11:22:48 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi, I want an rx demon (BSD rshd) to run on Win32. This could use rhosts type authentication but p9any would be a better solution. I was thinking about hacking the u9fs source to extract the p9any authentication module into a stand-alone program which my rxd could exec(). This starts to feel a bit like factotum, I could have listen exec rxd with a known file descriptor attached to factotum - Win32/Unix file descriptor inheritance being the closest thing I have to plan9 file namespace. Anyone else thought about / done anything like this. -Steve From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 19:31:27 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 19:31:27 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 19253 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 19:31:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 19249 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 19:31:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 19:31:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BDF4319CA1; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 06:31:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C12AD19C9F; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 06:31:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 91D5F19B31; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 06:30:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-06.noos.net [212.198.2.75]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B2AF019A3E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 06:30:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6141168 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jul 2003 10:30:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.75 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 8 Jul 2003 10:30:18 -0000 Message-ID: <003301c3453b$e859eba0$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <3F09EDB7.626FE4F5@null.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 12:30:09 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > My rule of thumb used to be that whatever the biggest > size you can imagine for some object, allocate twice > as many bits to hold its size as seem sufficient. as a reallocation strategy i take what i have and then double it. this is when i'm dealing with something that's going to 'grow' and i don't want to have to realloc for each new 'element'. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 19:33:21 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 19:33:21 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 19295 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 19:33:21 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 19291 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 19:33:21 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 19:33:21 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6D6B719CA3; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 06:33:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6107519C9D; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 06:33:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DE23119C9F; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 06:32:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-10.noos.net [212.198.2.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0F7EC19B51 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 06:32:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 95044968 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jul 2003 10:32:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.81 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 8 Jul 2003 10:32:49 -0000 Message-ID: <004301c3453c$420cdf40$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <3F0A8C03.584A047A@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] other versions of 9wm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 12:32:40 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Does that also explain why, when going thru the comp.os.plan9 > newsgroup, it takes forever and a day for the post to show up? i'm not sure. i think it's always been a bit weird. load related? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 19:46:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 19:46:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 19662 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 19:46:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 19658 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 19:46:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 19:46:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E9FFC19CAD; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 06:46:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 033DB19CA5; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 06:46:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1C1FA19CA5; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 06:45:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4182419C9D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 06:45:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <49a06a9fe952e0fc838bfd47c5caa3e1@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] win32 rx server, 9pany ? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-jvfcplmwpvemzwyqtbloaitanp" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 06:45:08 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-jvfcplmwpvemzwyqtbloaitanp Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I started down the path of porting factotum to windows and got side tracked, mostly because I was trying to figure out how to make it work for exploder and other apps. However, we've ported most of the libraries so if you want to make it just work as is, you could probably get it working fairly quickly. --upas-jvfcplmwpvemzwyqtbloaitanp Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Tue Jul 8 06:23:22 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Tue Jul 8 06:23:19 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5784D19C9C; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 06:23:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7E2D119C94; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 06:23:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3834819C97; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 06:22:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from larch (unknown [195.173.15.12]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 530CA19C94 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 06:22:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: steve.simon@snellwilcox.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] win32 rx server, 9pany ? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 11:22:48 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi, I want an rx demon (BSD rshd) to run on Win32. This could use rhosts type authentication but p9any would be a better solution. I was thinking about hacking the u9fs source to extract the p9any authentication module into a stand-alone program which my rxd could exec(). This starts to feel a bit like factotum, I could have listen exec rxd with a known file descriptor attached to factotum - Win32/Unix file descriptor inheritance being the closest thing I have to plan9 file namespace. Anyone else thought about / done anything like this. -Steve --upas-jvfcplmwpvemzwyqtbloaitanp-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 20:10:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 20:10:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20165 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 20:10:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20161 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 20:10:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 20:10:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E633C19AFD; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:10:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CF7DF19AA5; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:10:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4C7ED19AA5; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:09:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from juice.thebigchoice.com (pc1-nott2-3-cust18.nott.cable.ntl.com [80.4.204.18]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 3594419A86 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:09:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12932 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 11:09:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO proweb.co.uk) (192.168.1.100) by juice.thebigchoice.com with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 11:09:01 -0000 Message-ID: <3F0AA64C.8070209@proweb.co.uk> From: matt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? References: <3F09EDB7.626FE4F5@null.net> <003301c3453b$e859eba0$d2944251@insultant.net> In-Reply-To: <003301c3453b$e859eba0$d2944251@insultant.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 12:09:00 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) boyd, rounin wrote: >>My rule of thumb used to be that whatever the biggest >>size you can imagine for some object, allocate twice >>as many bits to hold its size as seem sufficient. >> >> > >as a reallocation strategy i take what i have and then double it. >this is when i'm dealing with something that's going to 'grow' >and i don't want to have to realloc for each new 'element'. > I've recently had this challenge and was wodnering what people use as a resize strategy I've read and seen the double it but decided it was pretty likely to run out of memory. Allocating 200Mb of memory for one extra array index seemed a bit risky. I plucked 5 + 125% as a compromise (the 5 for a performance boost the the beginning) Someone must have done some reseach into it but google isn't being very helpful In the end I used the "make a list and when you're done, count the elements and make the array" strategy From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 20:21:38 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 20:21:38 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20319 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 20:21:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20315 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 20:21:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 20:21:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D50D519CB3; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:21:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0B20819CAA; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:21:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C275719C92; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:20:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1463519A8C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:20:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA09103 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:20:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h68BK9719524 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:20:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307081120.h68BK9719524@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] 'find' In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 08 Jul 2003 08:31:50 GMT." <3F09EA55.FC079DAC@null.net> From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 07:20:09 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Actually in most Bourne shells the first file* is never expanded. Like I said, it doesn't work. - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 20:37:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 20:37:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20907 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 20:37:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20902 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 20:37:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 20:37:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9348219CB9; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:37:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 60D4B19CAA; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:37:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 12A8419CAA; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:36:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3B46919AD6 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:36:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA10906 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:36:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h68Ba5719800 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:36:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307081136.h68Ba5719800@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 08 Jul 2003 12:09:00 BST." <3F0AA64C.8070209@proweb.co.uk> From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 07:36:05 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) matt writes: > >as a reallocation strategy i take what i have and then double it. > >this is when i'm dealing with something that's going to 'grow' > >and i don't want to have to realloc for each new 'element'. > > I've recently had this challenge and was wodnering what people use as a > resize strategy > > I've read and seen the double it but decided it was pretty likely to run > out of memory. Allocating 200Mb of memory for one extra array index > seemed a bit risky. > > I plucked 5 + 125% as a compromise (the 5 for a performance boost the > the beginning) > > Someone must have done some reseach into it but google isn't being very > helpful > > In the end I used the "make a list and when you're done, count the > elements and make the array" strategy Doubling is, I think, the most common strategy; it works well with memory allocators based around the buddy system or variants thereof. Another common strategy that I've used is to double up until to threshold, and then extend by a constant chunk size after that. For instance, you might double things until you get to, say, a megabyte, and then add on a megabyte after that. As Boyd will no doubt tell you, everything is a tradeoff. Here, I'm trading some amount of speed for memory efficiency. If you're using smallish data sets, say anywhere from a couple of bytes up to a several megabytes, it will work resonably well (it will take only 24 allocations to get 5 megabytes if you start with a nil pointer). If you're trying to hold several gigabytes, obviously you might want to change around the starting size and chunk size, or adopt an entirely different strategy. For truly variable data sets, I like dynamic data structures that can grow without bound in a natural way. Many of these are simple to implement and have other desirable properties. For instance, lists are just about the simplest thing one can build, and work well for linear data sets (though have some overhead in having to maintain links; this can be amortized by storing more than one datum in a single node in the list). Anyway, that's just me. - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 21:13:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 21:13:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21486 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 21:13:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21481 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 21:13:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 21:13:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D45DC19CAA; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 08:13:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C616719B03; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 08:13:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id F31E619B16; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 08:12:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-06.noos.net [212.198.2.75]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 160D219B03 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 08:12:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6202374 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jul 2003 12:12:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.75 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 8 Jul 2003 12:12:15 -0000 Message-ID: <009d01c3454a$2b1ca5a0$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <200307081136.h68Ba5719800@augusta.math.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 14:12:14 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Another common strategy that I've used is to double up until to > threshold, and then extend by a constant chunk size after that. For > instance, you might double things until you get to, say, a megabyte, > and then add on a megabyte after that. yeah, that's not a bad idea, but it depends on what you're trying to allocate etc ... defining the 'threshold' and the 'chunk size' is the hard part. make a guess and then gets some stats on how it actually behaves and then tweak the numbers. make sure you have some good profiling tools too, 'cos the problem might not be the memory allocator, even though it's _the dumbest allocator ever written_. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 21:32:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 21:32:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21834 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 21:32:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21830 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 21:32:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 21:32:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C603F19A85; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 08:32:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 07E2E19CBA; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 08:32:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E2D1619CAF; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 08:31:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 199BF19A1F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 08:31:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19ZrQ9-0006Jz-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Tue, 08 Jul 2003 13:18:09 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Anthony Mandic Message-ID: <3F0AB497.F259DD47@hotmail.com> Organization: Mandic Consulting Pty. Ltd. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <3F0A8C03.584A047A@hotmail.com>, <004301c3453c$420cdf40$d2944251@insultant.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] other versions of 9wm Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 12:18:06 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,SEMIFORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) "boyd, rounin" wrote: > > > Does that also explain why, when going thru the comp.os.plan9 > > newsgroup, it takes forever and a day for the post to show up? > > i'm not sure. i think it's always been a bit weird. load related? I don't think its load but it seems to be working better now. -am © 2003 From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 22:39:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 22:39:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 23259 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 22:39:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 23255 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 22:39:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 22:39:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5C35E19AD6; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 09:39:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E8E1F19AD6; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 09:39:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 334DD19AEF; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 09:38:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 46FFA19AA5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 09:38:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h68DcneH005756 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:38:49 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h68Dcn9W005752 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:38:49 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] sam chatter In-Reply-To: <20030708090553.GC32354@folly> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:38:49 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Tue, 8 Jul 2003, Markus Friedl wrote: > has anyone looked into 'updating' 9wm to the 4th edition look-and-feel? > yes, without the colors (so just the feel): http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~mirtchov/ports/9wm-1.2.tar.gz I don't want to spend time putting colors in -- I get confused often enough as it is with the exact looking black and white menu, that I kill drawterm instead of a window in plan9 almost every day. it's frustrating. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 22:42:27 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 22:42:27 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 23366 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 22:42:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 23362 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 22:42:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 22:42:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6650819AF1; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 09:42:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 07BF419AF5; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 09:42:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 581CE19AF5; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 09:41:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7079919AA5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 09:41:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h68DfIeH005770 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:41:18 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h68DfIBX005766 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:41:18 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] other versions of 9wm In-Reply-To: <3F0A8C03.584A047A@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:41:18 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Tue, 8 Jul 2003, Anthony Mandic wrote: > Does that also explain why, when going thru the comp.os.plan9 > newsgroup, it takes forever and a day for the post to show up? comp.os.plan9 is also moderated, that takes time. 9fans is always the better choice, now that the spam has trickled down significantly. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 23:15:41 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 23:15:41 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 23894 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 23:15:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 23890 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 23:15:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 23:15:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 99E6219B18; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:15:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C9A7819AE2; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:15:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0F16419AE2; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:14:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailrelay2.lanl.gov (mailrelay2.lanl.gov [128.165.4.103]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F3C3319A3E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:14:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay2.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h68EEf58013358 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 08:14:41 -0600 Received: from maxroach.lanl.gov (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h68EEfUk014665 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 08:14:41 -0600 From: ron minnich To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? In-Reply-To: <009d01c3454a$2b1ca5a0$d2944251@insultant.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 08:14:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Tue, 8 Jul 2003, boyd, rounin wrote: > > Another common strategy that I've used is to double up until to > > threshold, and then extend by a constant chunk size after that. For > > instance, you might double things until you get to, say, a megabyte, > > and then add on a megabyte after that. > > yeah, that's not a bad idea, but it depends on what you're trying to > allocate etc ... defining the 'threshold' and the 'chunk size' is the > hard part. If the stuff is files, you can depend on some things. Every time I check a file system I find the lovely bimodal size distribution. You can start with 32K or some nominal such size and you'll cover most of the files; past that point things are "big" so you can start allocating reasonably big chunks. That's how I've done it anyways, unless I pre-computed the size. ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 8 23:38:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 8 23:38:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 24499 invoked by uid 1020); 8 Jul 2003 23:38:23 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 24495 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 23:38:22 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 23:38:22 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A439119B03; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:38:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6366819AE4; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:38:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 94D9A19AE2; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:37:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from galapagos.cse.psu.edu (galapagos.cse.psu.edu [130.203.12.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 22AA719AD7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:37:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6930 invoked by uid 991); 8 Jul 2003 14:37:04 -0000 Message-ID: <20030708143704.6929.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] other versions of 9wm In-reply-to: <3F0A8C03.584A047A@hotmail.com> References: <200307042006.h64K6VpF014812@aahz.skeeve.com>, <20030707161446.26322.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> <3F0A8C03.584A047A@hotmail.com> Comments: In-reply-to Anthony Mandic message dated "Tue, 08 Jul 2003 09:31:32 +0000." From: Scott Schwartz Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 10:37:04 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) | Does that also explain why, when going thru the comp.os.plan9 | newsgroup, it takes forever and a day for the post to show up? The usenet->list gateway at bath.ac.uk is moderated. I assume that's the source of the delay. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 01:50:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 01:50:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27733 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 01:50:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27729 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 01:50:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 01:50:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3F98919B02; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 12:50:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3FD1819AB5; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 12:50:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B48C319AB5; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 12:49:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgristroph-austin.ath.cx (cs24362-19.austin.rr.com [24.243.62.19]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F149519A1F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 12:49:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgr by rgristroph-austin.ath.cx with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19ZvfY-00011X-00; Tue, 08 Jul 2003 11:50:20 -0500 From: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org (Rob Ristroph) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] no rio ? References: <2defc5740114720fe24f65d6045eef21@plan9.bell-labs.com> <878yr97mw7.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> <000f01c34539$e6fb7f00$d2944251@insultant.net> In-Reply-To: <000f01c34539$e6fb7f00$d2944251@insultant.net> Message-ID: <87k7at55f8.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: 08 Jul 2003 11:50:19 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_GNUS_UA version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >>>>> "rounin" == rounin boyd writes: rounin> >> I can't answer your questions; I first wiped the machine and >> installed another OS to test the hardware, and then I re-downloaded >> Plan 9 this morning and tried again; this time Plan 9 won't >> overwrite the MBR, so the old OS's bootloader keeps coming up, no >> matter how many times I do "bootsetup" from the floppy. So right >> now I can't even get to the term% prompt. rounin> rounin> ahh, i've got into that loop with windows 2000. in my case it rounin> had written the MBR, but i had forgotten [re]move plan9.ini rounin> that it had booted off. rounin> rounin> off course, my case was special 'cos this was a USB floppy rounin> install on a VAIO so my plan9.ini was in c:\ rounin> rounin> once moved to oplan9.ini it booted fine. I wiped the entire disk so I don't think there is an old plan9.ini hanging around. I wiped it with dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda on one machine, and by re-partitioning the disk and installing linux on the other. --Rob From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 02:47:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 02:47:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 28703 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 02:47:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 28699 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 02:47:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 02:47:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3188B19A92; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 13:47:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 452EB19AF5; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 13:47:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9858119B09; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 13:46:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EF89819A92 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 13:46:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pr-webmail-2.demon.net ([194.159.244.50] helo=web.mail.demon.net) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 19ZwTi-0004u8-0U for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Tue, 08 Jul 2003 18:42:10 +0100 Received: from cjl1.demon.co.uk ([62.254.170.97]) by web.mail.demon.net with http; Tue, 08 Jul 2003 18:42:10 +0100 From: chris@hollis-locke.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu In-Reply-To: <3F0AA64C.8070209@proweb.co.uk> Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? User-Agent: Demon-WebMail/2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 18:42:10 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) matt@proweb.co.uk wrote: > In the end I used the "make a list and when you're done, count the > elements and make the array" strategy > So you end up needing twice the memory anyway! From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 05:20:43 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 05:20:43 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 528 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 05:20:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 524 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 05:20:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 05:20:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 872D619B54; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 16:20:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DFB8919B24; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 16:20:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EE38B19B24; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 16:19:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from juice.thebigchoice.com (pc1-nott2-3-cust18.nott.cable.ntl.com [80.4.204.18]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id E968719AA5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 16:19:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8291 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 20:19:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO proweb.co.uk) (192.168.1.100) by juice.thebigchoice.com with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 20:19:11 -0000 Message-ID: <3F0B273E.30201@proweb.co.uk> From: matt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 21:19:10 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) chris@hollis-locke.com wrote: >matt@proweb.co.uk wrote: > > >>In the end I used the "make a list and when you're done, count the >>elements and make the array" strategy >> >>So you end up needing twice the memory anyway! >> >> yes, tis true, but only temporarily From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 05:42:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 05:42:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 866 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 05:42:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 862 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 05:42:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 05:42:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0182E19B65; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 16:42:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 80CEC199BE; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 16:42:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6DA73199D2; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 16:41:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-11.noos.net [212.198.2.82]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 69AB9199BC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 16:41:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 104949720 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jul 2003 20:41:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.82 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 8 Jul 2003 20:41:40 -0000 Message-ID: <008601c34591$54e87200$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <3F0B273E.30201@proweb.co.uk> Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 22:41:39 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > yes, tis true, but only temporarily tis true it's a god-awful algorithm. mangle the pointer from char * to void * in this: typedef long msg_idx; typedef struct { msg_idx v_count; msg_idx v_size; msg_idx v_incr; char **v_list; } vec; echo vec.c sed 's/.//' >vec.c <<'//GO.SYSIN DD vec.c' -/* - * Dynamic vector of strings. - */ - -#ifndef lint -static char sccsid[] = "@(#)vec.c 1.31"; -#endif lint - -#include "mace.h" - -void -vec_init(v, n) -register vec *v; -register int n; -{ - v->v_count = 0; - v->v_size = v->v_incr = n; - v->v_list = (char **)salloc(n * sizeof(char *)); -} - -char * -vec_str(v, s) -register vec *v; -register char *s; -{ - if (v->v_count == v->v_size) - v->v_list = (char **)srealloc((char *)v->v_list, (int)(v->v_size += v->v_incr) * sizeof(char *)); - - v->v_list[v->v_count++] = s; - - return s; -} - -char * -vec_cat(v, s) -register vec *v; -register char *s; -{ - if (v->v_count != 0) - { - register char *p; - - if (v->v_list[v->v_count - 1] != NULLSTR) - { - p = concat(v->v_list[v->v_count - 1], s); - - (void)free(v->v_list[v->v_count - 1]); - (void)free(s); - } - else - p = s; - - return v->v_list[v->v_count - 1] = p; - } - else - return vec_str(v, s); -} - -void -vec_free(v) -register vec *v; -{ - register int i; - - for (i = 0; i < v->v_count; i++) - { - if (v->v_list[i] != NULLSTR) - (void)free(v->v_list[i]); - } - - v->v_count = 0; - v->v_size = 0; - v->v_incr = 0; - (void)free((char *)v->v_list); -} //GO.SYSIN DD vec.c i think that demonstrates the concept. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 07:10:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 07:10:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 2563 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 07:10:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 2558 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 07:10:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 07:10:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 23BCB19B59; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 18:10:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 859DA19B56; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 18:10:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 657EC19B51; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 18:09:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailrelay2.lanl.gov (mailrelay2.lanl.gov [128.165.4.103]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 59BBD199CC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 18:09:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay2.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h68M9E58005404 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 16:09:14 -0600 Received: from maxroach.lanl.gov (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h68M9EUk001788 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 16:09:14 -0600 From: ron minnich To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 16:09:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 chris@hollis-locke.com wrote: > > So you end up needing twice the memory anyway! not for just a count pass. ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 07:20:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 07:20:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 2749 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 07:20:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 2745 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 07:20:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 07:20:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E63B219B62; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 18:20:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AA80B19B60; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 18:20:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8C5461998C; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 18:19:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DEDA719A1F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 18:19:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA07907 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 18:19:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h68MJT723116 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 18:19:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307082219.h68MJT723116@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 08 Jul 2003 16:09:14 MDT." From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 18:19:29 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > So you end up needing twice the memory anyway! > > not for just a count pass. But what are you counting? If you store all the data in a list so that you can find out how big to make an array (are we assuming we're getting the data from somewhere I can do more than one pass?), you still use twice the memory when you allocate the array. - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 07:56:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 07:56:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 3397 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 07:56:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 3393 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 07:56:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 07:56:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A301919B51; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 18:56:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D4B7019B5C; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 18:56:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0E89419B58; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 18:55:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.monitorbm.co.nz (www.monitorbm.co.nz [203.167.201.38]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id C9F1B19A1F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 18:54:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25616 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 22:54:46 -0000 Received: from mercury.mbmnz.co.nz (HELO MERCURY) (192.168.0.63) by mail.monitorbm.co.nz with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 22:54:46 -0000 Message-ID: <02aa01c345a4$223fb760$3f00a8c0@MERCURY> From: "Andrew Simmons" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: [9fans] win32 rx server, 9pany ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 10:56:14 +1200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_NJABL,X_NJABL_OPEN_PROXY version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >I started down the path of porting factotum to windows What are you using for random number generation under Windows? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 08:01:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 08:01:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 3470 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 08:01:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 3466 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 08:01:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 08:01:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 69AA919B68; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:01:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7912519B66; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:01:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D757319B60; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:00:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-03.noos.net [212.198.2.72]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0A7D719B5C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:00:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24784842 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jul 2003 23:00:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.72 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 8 Jul 2003 23:00:26 -0000 Message-ID: <00ff01c345a4$b6dd10c0$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <02aa01c345a4$223fb760$3f00a8c0@MERCURY> Subject: Re: [9fans] win32 rx server, 9pany ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 01:00:23 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > What are you using for random number generation under Windows? time between crashes? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 08:17:35 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 08:17:35 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 3624 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 08:17:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 3620 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 08:17:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 08:17:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9B7AD19B61; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:17:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C396319B74; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:17:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8D98019B5F; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:16:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.monitorbm.co.nz (www.monitorbm.co.nz [203.167.201.38]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 34DCE19B4E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:16:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25937 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 23:16:24 -0000 Received: from mercury.mbmnz.co.nz (HELO MERCURY) (192.168.0.63) by mail.monitorbm.co.nz with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 23:16:24 -0000 Message-ID: <02b601c345a7$282bf410$3f00a8c0@MERCURY> From: "Andrew Simmons" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: [9fans] win32 rx server, 9pany ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:17:53 +1200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_NJABL,X_NJABL_OPEN_PROXY version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > time between crashes? I said "random". From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 08:24:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 08:24:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 3685 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 08:24:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 3681 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 08:24:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 08:24:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 41F4519C79; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:24:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 09A5C19B89; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:24:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8110B19B5C; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:23:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from edoras.nas.com (edoras.nas.com [206.63.100.8]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CB57D19B74 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:23:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nas.com (unknown [164.116.190.46]) by edoras.nas.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4FD9EBAE9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 16:23:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F0B5275.3020401@nas.com> From: Jack Johnson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030416 Thunderbird/0.1a X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] win32 rx server, 9pany ? References: <02aa01c345a4$223fb760$3f00a8c0@MERCURY> <00ff01c345a4$b6dd10c0$d2944251@insultant.net> In-Reply-To: <00ff01c345a4$b6dd10c0$d2944251@insultant.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 16:23:33 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) boyd, rounin wrote: >>What are you using for random number generation under Windows? > time between crashes? It used to be time between dialog boxes with only one option, but it turned out to have a period of 3. -Jack From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 08:34:40 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 08:34:40 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 3873 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 08:34:39 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 3869 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 08:34:39 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 08:34:39 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EC47719B74; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:34:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id ABE8C19C7B; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:34:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8637219B85; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:33:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-06.noos.net [212.198.2.75]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AD51019B89 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:32:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6539887 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jul 2003 23:32:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.75 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 8 Jul 2003 23:32:55 -0000 Message-ID: <011a01c345a9$40f08540$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <02b601c345a7$282bf410$3f00a8c0@MERCURY> Subject: Re: [9fans] win32 rx server, 9pany ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 01:32:52 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I said "random". get the doc on PNRGs, read it, search google, listen to Bruce Schneier ... code it. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 08:49:35 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 08:49:35 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 4119 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 08:49:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 4115 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 08:49:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 08:49:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8BF4819C83; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:49:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B023F19C85; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:49:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8A5E719C7A; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:48:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.monitorbm.co.nz (www.monitorbm.co.nz [203.167.201.38]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 4794D19B55 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:48:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26397 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 23:48:07 -0000 Received: from mercury.mbmnz.co.nz (HELO MERCURY) (192.168.0.63) by mail.monitorbm.co.nz with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 23:48:07 -0000 Message-ID: <02c401c345ab$96739ff0$3f00a8c0@MERCURY> From: "Andrew Simmons" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: [9fans] win32 rx server, 9pany ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:49:35 +1200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_NJABL,X_NJABL_OPEN_PROXY version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > listen to Bruce Schneier ... "The world is full of bad security systems designed by people who have read Applied Cryptography." > code it. That's the bit I was rather hoping to avoid. I'm currently using the Windows Crypto API, but don't really trust it. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 08:57:35 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 08:57:35 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 4277 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 08:57:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 4273 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 08:57:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 08:57:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DED9A19C85; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:57:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BF83119C92; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:57:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0CEF319C85; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:56:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-02.noos.net [212.198.2.71]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3636F19C1A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:56:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16606895 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jul 2003 23:56:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.71 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 8 Jul 2003 23:56:10 -0000 Message-ID: <012c01c345ac$8018b460$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <02c401c345ab$96739ff0$3f00a8c0@MERCURY> Subject: Re: [9fans] win32 rx server, 9pany ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 01:56:07 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > That's the bit I was rather hoping to avoid. I'm currently using the Windows > Crypto API, but don't really trust it. maybe if you told us the type of random numbers you need might help. i'm no factotum expert. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 09:29:27 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 09:29:27 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 5739 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 09:29:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 5735 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 09:29:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 09:29:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6172A19C94; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 20:29:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5A4B419B89; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 20:29:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3B0DD19B89; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 20:28:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.monitorbm.co.nz (smtp.monitorbm.co.nz [203.167.201.38]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id E8BFE19B72 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 20:28:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26829 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 00:28:34 -0000 Received: from mercury.mbmnz.co.nz (HELO MERCURY) (192.168.0.63) by mail.monitorbm.co.nz with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 00:28:34 -0000 Message-ID: <02dc01c345b1$3cc99e40$3f00a8c0@MERCURY> From: "Andrew Simmons" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: [9fans] win32 rx server, 9pany ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 12:30:02 +1200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,RCVD_IN_NJABL,X_NJABL_OPEN_PROXY version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > maybe if you told us the type of random numbers you need might help. For session key generation etc. I've been looking at OpenSSL & Cryptlib, & was just interested in any other alternatives. It would probably get too far OT and boring to go into it further, so I'll shut up now. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 09:35:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 09:35:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 5948 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 09:35:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 5944 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 09:35:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 09:35:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BA34319C93; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 20:35:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 71F5619C95; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 20:35:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 50DB319C93; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 20:34:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-06.noos.net [212.198.2.75]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7668419B8B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 20:34:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6544178 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jul 2003 00:34:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.75 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 9 Jul 2003 00:34:04 -0000 Message-ID: <014401c345b1$cbd88b00$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <02dc01c345b1$3cc99e40$3f00a8c0@MERCURY> Subject: Re: [9fans] win32 rx server, 9pany ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 02:34:01 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > It would probably get too far OT and boring to go into it further, so I'll shut up now. good crypto is never OT. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 09:50:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 09:50:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 6466 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 09:50:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 6462 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 09:50:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 09:50:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id AAC0819C95; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 20:50:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4FD3519CA5; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 20:50:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 408C219B89; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 20:49:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orthanc.ab.ca (orthanc.ab.ca [216.123.230.114]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 670C719C8C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 20:49:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orthanc.ab.ca ([192.168.42.253]) by orthanc.ab.ca (8.12.6p2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h690ngUW037536 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 18:49:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca) Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Lyndon Nerenberg To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <6F055FB9-B080-11D7-A4C1-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> Message-Id: <3B9042CE-B1A7-11D7-A840-000393D34A62@orthanc.ab.ca> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 18:49:44 -0600 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,USER_AGENT_APPLEMAIL version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Does anyone have a plan to add "pop3 before smtp" to Plan9 smtpd? I certainly hope not. RFC2554 has been out for over four years now. --lyndon From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 10:17:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 10:17:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 7720 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 10:17:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 7716 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 10:17:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 10:17:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id F0DF019AB2; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:17:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 44DEB19AB2; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:17:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9B7EB19B72; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:16:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-06.noos.net [212.198.2.75]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A716319B09 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:16:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6540223 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jul 2003 01:16:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.75 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 9 Jul 2003 01:16:52 -0000 Message-ID: <016201c345b7$c60edb60$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <3B9042CE-B1A7-11D7-A840-000393D34A62@orthanc.ab.ca> Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 03:16:49 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > Does anyone have a plan to add "pop3 before smtp" to Plan9 smtpd? i never understood that sentence. > I certainly hope not. RFC2554 has been out for over four years now. hmm 2554 and what might that be? Network Working Group J. Myers Request for Comments: 2554 Netscape Communications Category: Standards Track March 1999 SMTP Service Extension for Authentication Status of this Memo This document specifies an Internet standards track protocol for the Internet community, and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements. Please refer to the current edition of the "Internet Official Protocol Standards" (STD 1) for the standardization state and status of this protocol. Distribution of this memo is unlimited. ---- what has it got to do with POP? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 10:25:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 10:25:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 7981 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 10:25:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 7977 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 10:25:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 10:25:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8374319CBB; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:25:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6241C19B72; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:25:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A27E319B85; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:24:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E0BFD19B0D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:24:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA29123 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:24:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h691On724189 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:24:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307090124.h691On724189@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 09 Jul 2003 03:16:49 +0200." <016201c345b7$c60edb60$d2944251@insultant.net> From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 21:24:49 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > what has it got to do with POP? Early on in the days of the spam epidemic, as a crude form of authentication, someone modified sendmail to require a user to authenticate to their POP server before allowing them to relay mail through their server. Basically, the POP server put a timestamp associated with a user's email address in a file somewhere, and then the MTA looked in it before relaying mail from that address. Like most bad ideas, it stuck. - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 10:28:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 10:28:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 8108 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 10:28:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 8104 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 10:28:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 10:28:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 84EA419B1E; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:28:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0B4DA19CC0; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:28:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C0A5919CAE; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:27:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailrelay1.lanl.gov (mailrelay1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.101]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B56AB19B1E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:27:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay1.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h691ROte027126 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:27:25 -0600 Received: from maxroach.lanl.gov (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h691ROUk008404 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:27:24 -0600 From: ron minnich To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? In-Reply-To: <200307082219.h68MJT723116@augusta.math.psu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:27:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Tue, 8 Jul 2003, Dan Cross wrote: > But what are you counting? If you store all the data in a list so > that you can find out how big to make an array (are we assuming we're > getting the data from somewhere I can do more than one pass?), you > still use twice the memory when you allocate the array. I'm probably missing the point as I came into this too late, so never mind :) ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 10:38:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 10:38:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 8695 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 10:38:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 8657 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 10:37:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 10:37:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0E6ED19CBA; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:37:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5C93719CC2; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:37:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DE9D819CBA; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:36:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from galapagos.cse.psu.edu (galapagos.cse.psu.edu [130.203.12.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 4BE1719B85 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:36:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15242 invoked by uid 991); 9 Jul 2003 01:36:25 -0000 Message-ID: <20030709013624.15241.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp In-reply-to: <016201c345b7$c60edb60$d2944251@insultant.net> References: <3B9042CE-B1A7-11D7-A840-000393D34A62@orthanc.ab.ca> <016201c345b7$c60edb60$d2944251@insultant.net> Comments: In-reply-to "boyd, rounin" message dated "Wed, 09 Jul 2003 03:16:49 +0200." From: Scott Schwartz Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 21:36:23 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > what has it got to do with POP? The idea is that there's no good way to distinguish SMTP message submission by authorized users from message relaying by unauthorized ones. But POP does authenticate you as a local user, and it can remember your IP address, and your mail server can assume that attempts at mail relaying from that IP are actually attempts at mail submission and that they should be allowed. It's a popular kludge. And you don't need it if your SMTP server is willing to authenticate local users. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 10:56:59 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 10:56:59 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10033 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 10:56:56 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 9905 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 10:56:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 10:56:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DD5C419CC3; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:56:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5CB6219CC7; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:56:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9D77A19CC2; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:55:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-12.noos.net [212.198.2.83]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B742F19CBF for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:54:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23598886 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jul 2003 01:54:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.83 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 9 Jul 2003 01:54:56 -0000 Message-ID: <018e01c345bd$17d6e280$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <3B9042CE-B1A7-11D7-A840-000393D34A62@orthanc.ab.ca> <016201c345b7$c60edb60$d2944251@insultant.net> <20030709013624.15241.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 03:54:54 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > It's a popular kludge. And you don't need it > if your SMTP server is willing to authenticate local users. oh i see. thanks for the clarification, but the whole thing is nonsense. as i said before: good crypto is never OT clear text tcp auth needs to be replaced by something like styx. i'll send my pop password in the clear to the server 'cos what have i have got to lose? coupla bits of random mail that get pulled off the pop server every few minutes. it's time for a re-think, no? i am unsure how to do this, but it's gotta be a lot more interesting than bitching about how shell metacharacter expansion doesn't/does work on the other side of an i/o redirection [modulo your acid flashback of 'the shell']. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 10:59:40 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 10:59:40 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10244 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 10:59:40 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10233 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 10:59:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 10:59:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D1FB219B43; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:59:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EA0D119B49; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:59:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8D54519CD1; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:58:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-02.noos.net [212.198.2.71]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B254C19CC2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:58:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16680518 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jul 2003 01:58:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.66.148.210]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.71 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 9 Jul 2003 01:58:43 -0000 Message-ID: <019401c345bd$9ec8c880$d2944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <200307090124.h691On724189@augusta.math.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 03:58:40 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Early on any given day > someone modified sendmail to do an arbitrarily stupid thing. vix had it together, back in early '92 (or so) and then it all just went to hell. bit like the 'new' lunix DNS ... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 11:09:09 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 11:09:09 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10634 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 11:08:43 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10628 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 11:08:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 11:08:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9DA6219CD5; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 22:08:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DAE6119CB5; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 22:08:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7517319B2B; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 22:07:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from holo.morphisms.net (holo.morphisms.net [66.93.84.55]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CBE5519A2A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 22:07:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mero.morphisms.net (mero.morphisms.net [66.93.84.246]) by holo.morphisms.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8251024FAC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 22:07:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mero.morphisms.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6EF6A288; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 22:07:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 22:07:03 -0400 From: William Josephson To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? Message-ID: <20030709020703.GB60105@mero.morphisms.net> References: <3F05D809.7030707@null.net> <7150078ec6d4a983e1bc125e877704f7@collyer.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7150078ec6d4a983e1bc125e877704f7@collyer.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-No-archive: yes Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 02:03:08AM -0700, Geoff Collyer wrote: > As for efficient integer encodings, at least for this purpose, if we > restricted I/O transfer lengths to powers of 2, we could just supply > the exponent in 9P (e.g., 16 in a length field in 9P would represent > 2??????=65,536). ??? We could get away with a single byte for length fields, > even a signed byte. Bad Idea(tm) (think Ethernet MTU; this particular brain-damage has been tried ;-) From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 11:50:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 11:50:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12526 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 11:50:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12521 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 11:50:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 11:50:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B5D3619CA7; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 22:50:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9D62019B2B; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 22:50:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 831BE19BAE; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 22:49:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7B36319AF5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 22:48:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nospam.com (h00a0cca0b74a.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.34.51.37](untrusted sender)) by attbi.com (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003070902485301300ipiuie>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 02:48:53 +0000 Message-ID: <3F0B816D.8090107@nospam.com> From: bs User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.9) Gecko/20020408 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] win32 rx server, 9pany ? References: <02dc01c345b1$3cc99e40$3f00a8c0@MERCURY> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: bs@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 22:43:57 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Andrew Simmons wrote: >>maybe if you told us the type of random numbers you need might help. > > > For session key generation etc. I've been looking at OpenSSL & Cryptlib, & > was just interested in any other alternatives. It would probably get too > far OT and boring to go into it further, so I'll shut up now. > Why not PRNGD? It has a liberal license. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 12:31:42 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 12:31:42 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 14145 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 12:31:41 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 14141 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 12:31:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 12:31:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1474F19CCE; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 23:31:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E926B19BAE; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 23:31:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5F16D19CB5; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 23:30:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 75CC819BAE for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 23:30:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] win32 rx server, 9pany ? In-Reply-To: <3F0B816D.8090107@nospam.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-jmyssaqhyhynjjlymnaoxmzwjc" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 23:30:46 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-jmyssaqhyhynjjlymnaoxmzwjc Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Perhaps because it isn't a random number generator. Getting reasonable random numbers with beating clocks, ala /dev/random in plan9, is not hard. However, to have any confidence in it you really have to test it on every machine. I've got a few reasonable random number testers and there are plenty on the web. I throw them at our random generator every now and then to make sure nothing broke. If in Windows, a process can get interrupted by the 8253 clock, we can generate similarly random numbers there though perhaps at a slower rate. That does require that the 8253 stay independent of the cpu clock. However, something like the X9.17 algorithm, seeded by a small amount of random material will produce a ready supply of unpredicatble and incoherent bytes for things like prime number generation. You don't have to look around too much, we've already got it. --upas-jmyssaqhyhynjjlymnaoxmzwjc Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Tue Jul 8 22:50:23 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Tue Jul 8 22:50:20 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 37DA419BAE; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 22:50:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6160A19AF5; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 22:50:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 831BE19BAE; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 22:49:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7B36319AF5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 22:48:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nospam.com (h00a0cca0b74a.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.34.51.37](untrusted sender)) by attbi.com (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003070902485301300ipiuie>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 02:48:53 +0000 Message-ID: <3F0B816D.8090107@nospam.com> From: bs User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.9) Gecko/20020408 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] win32 rx server, 9pany ? References: <02dc01c345b1$3cc99e40$3f00a8c0@MERCURY> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: bs@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 22:43:57 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Andrew Simmons wrote: >>maybe if you told us the type of random numbers you need might help. > > > For session key generation etc. I've been looking at OpenSSL & Cryptlib, & > was just interested in any other alternatives. It would probably get too > far OT and boring to go into it further, so I'll shut up now. > Why not PRNGD? 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Baker" To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [9fans] The new ridiculous license Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 20:33:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) FYI http://news.com.com/2008-1082_3-1023765.html?tag=fd_lede2_hed --------------8<-------------- (c|net's Stephen Shankland) Do you ever wish you'd opted for a BSD-style license instead of the General Public License (GPL)? (Unlike the GPL, BSD-style licenses such as those used for the Apache Software Foundation Web server and the FreeBSD Unix offshoot permit open-source code to be made proprietary.) 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DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 14:07:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 14:07:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 18349 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 14:07:38 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 18345 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 14:07:38 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 14:07:38 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D5D0519BB3; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 01:07:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E944819BBC; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 01:07:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B21D519BBB; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 01:06:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ar.aichi-u.ac.jp (ar.aichi-u.ac.jp [202.250.160.40]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6DF7219B9C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 01:06:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ar.aichi-u.ac.jp ([61.211.130.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 14:05:48 JST 2003 Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Kenji Arisawa To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <018e01c345bd$17d6e280$d2944251@insultant.net> Message-Id: <00B9A19C-B1CB-11D7-9609-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:05:47 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,USER_AGENT_APPLEMAIL version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hello, >> It's a popular kludge. And you don't need it >> if your SMTP server is willing to authenticate local users. > > oh i see. thanks for the clarification, but the whole thing is > nonsense. Hmm.. How do you send emails from notebook via Plan 9 server? "POP3 before smtp" is a simple solution though not a best one. Kenji Arisawa From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 16:22:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 16:22:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 25323 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 16:22:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 25319 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 16:22:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 16:22:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9CF4519B79; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 03:22:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C91A519BA4; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 03:22:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DA08119B8E; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 03:21:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nautilus.escet.urjc.es (nautilus.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.207]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EE8F0199FD for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 03:21:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <40440837a092e3b0b9a58df0805c0578@plan9.escet.urjc.es> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp From: Fco.J.Ballesteros From: nemo@plan9.escet.urjc.es In-Reply-To: <00B9A19C-B1CB-11D7-9609-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:21:07 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Hmm.. > How do you send emails from notebook via Plan 9 server? > "POP3 before smtp" is a simple solution though not a best one. The notebook can send them by itself. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 16:40:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 16:40:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 26219 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 16:40:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 26215 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 16:40:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 16:40:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EF66219C9A; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 03:40:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D15C319BB7; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 03:40:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7682E19BBB; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 03:39:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ar.aichi-u.ac.jp (ar.aichi-u.ac.jp [202.250.160.40]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3B09719BB7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 03:39:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ar.aichi-u.ac.jp ([61.211.130.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 16:39:25 JST 2003 Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Kenji Arisawa To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <40440837a092e3b0b9a58df0805c0578@plan9.escet.urjc.es> Message-Id: <76892BE6-B1E0-11D7-9609-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:39:25 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,USER_AGENT_APPLEMAIL version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hello, >> Hmm.. >> How do you send emails from notebook via Plan 9 server? >> "POP3 before smtp" is a simple solution though not a best one. > > The notebook can send them by itself. IP address of my notebook is determined by DHCP. The address changes from place to place. Kenji Arisawa From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 16:57:35 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 16:57:35 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27055 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 16:57:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27051 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 16:57:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 16:57:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1B3D519B95; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 03:57:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B5A8419CA6; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 03:57:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E6C1B19BB8; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 03:56:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from collyer.net (adsl-63-192-14-226.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.192.14.226]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E9B6819B95 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 03:56:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <15cf5606d70893813ba8f7a50d7c5680@collyer.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp From: Geoff Collyer In-Reply-To: <76892BE6-B1E0-11D7-9609-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 00:56:05 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Your IP address shouldn't matter if you've set "site" to your domain in termrc and cpurc, and set "fd" to your domain (if the return address would be unqualified) in /mail/lib/remotemail*. Various anti-spam measures at other sites may interfere, but I don't yet control my reverse DNS map and have had very little trouble sending mail directly even though the domain returned by reverse lookup of my IP addresses is different than the one I claim in mail. In those few cases, I've rerouted outgoing mail in rewrite to my ISP's mail servers. Currently the only sites my rewrite does this for are at my old employer, the University of Toronto. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 17:31:04 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 17:31:04 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 28665 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 17:30:39 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 28653 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 17:30:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 17:30:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1CAFB19CD0; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 04:30:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E91E819BC3; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 04:30:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5E4E419BCC; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 04:29:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ar.aichi-u.ac.jp (ar.aichi-u.ac.jp [202.250.160.40]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 25C6D19BB7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 04:29:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ar.aichi-u.ac.jp ([61.211.130.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 17:29:13 JST 2003 Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Kenji Arisawa To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <15cf5606d70893813ba8f7a50d7c5680@collyer.net> Message-Id: <6B31EC14-B1E7-11D7-9609-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 17:29:12 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_APPLEMAIL version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hello, Thanks all. It seems current smtpd support some relay authentications. SMTP authentication by login and cram-md5 protocols is supported; authenticated connections are permitted to relay. I didn't aware that. I will try. Kenji Arisawa From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 18:08:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 18:08:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 30177 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 18:08:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 30173 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 18:08:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 18:08:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2D81B19BBD; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 05:08:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E443719B53; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 05:08:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6B3DC19B70; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 05:07:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ar.aichi-u.ac.jp (ar.aichi-u.ac.jp [202.250.160.40]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 323C519B49 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 05:07:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ar.aichi-u.ac.jp ([61.211.130.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 18:07:12 JST 2003 Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Kenji Arisawa To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <6B31EC14-B1E7-11D7-9609-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:07:11 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_APPLEMAIL version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hello, SMTP authentication by login and cram-md5 protocols is supported; authenticated connections are permitted to relay. OK. That works fine. Thanks for the person who wrote smtpd. Kenji Arisawa From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 19:28:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 19:28:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 32530 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 19:28:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 32526 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 19:28:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 19:28:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EB86419B85; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 06:28:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D4B9219B2A; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 06:28:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 217B519B78; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 06:27:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7E7A119B08 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 06:27:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h69AH8np010715 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 12:17:14 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h69AH4PN010714 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 12:17:04 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans mailing list <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Message-ID: <20030709121658.M7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans mailing list <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us Organization: Proxima Research & Development Subject: [9fans] I hate to insist... (Was: Venti for Fossil) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 12:16:59 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I appreciate that some of my previous questions may have been a little uninformed, but now I really would like a simple answer: In /sys/src/cmd/venti/fmtindex.c, the last section starts addr = IndexBase; n = 0; ... and seemingly proceeeds to compute arena maps (amap[n]) based on the arena size amap[n].start = addr; addr += ap->arenas[j]->size; amap[n].stop = addr; with, later: ix->amap = amap; Why is the start address "IndexBase" and not "ArenaBase"? And, in my opinion, "addr" should be incremented by ap->arenas[j]->size + 2 * ap->arenas[j]->blockSize because ap->arenas[j]->size is generated (in arena.c:/initArena) by arena->size = size - 2 * blockSize; Please someone tell me where I'm going wrong! ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 22:21:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 22:21:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 3965 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 22:21:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 3961 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 22:21:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 22:21:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2128419B80; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:21:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2865719B5A; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:21:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 620A419B6E; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:20:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailrelay2.lanl.gov (mailrelay2.lanl.gov [128.165.4.103]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3025B19B5A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:20:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay2.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h69DKLLQ003149 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 07:20:21 -0600 Received: from maxroach.lanl.gov (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h69DKLUk025518 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 07:20:21 -0600 From: ron minnich To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.35 Subject: [9fans] A simple question Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 07:20:20 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I have a little program, a.c: #include int a(){ print("hi\n"); } I want to link the a.8 program produced by 8.c against the 9pcdisk image and produce an 8.out, something like this: 8l -T some-base-address a.8 9pcdisk I want the 8.out to be JUST the a.8 with symbol fixups from 9pcdisk, and based at 'some-base-address'. Now obviously that doesn't *quite* work, since 9pcdisk is not something you can link against. So what I'm really after is something like this: 8l -T some-base-address -d 9pcdisk a.8 This would use 9pcdisk to define the symbols. I don't really want to work with 9pcdisk directly, so I did this: nm 9pcdisk > kname I get a log of entries in kname like this: 0x80400040 T somesymbol And then all I need to do is set up 8l to read this file and pre-define a bunch of symbols (or so I think). So as a test I put this code into 8l, ripping off the readundefs code (defs is an array of names of define files to use, defsp is how many there are): void readdefs(void) { int i, n; Sym *s; Biobuf *b; char *l, buf[256], *fields[3]; for(i = 0; i < defsp; i++) { b = Bopen(defs[i], OREAD); if(b == nil) { diag("could not open %s: %r", defs[i]); errorexit(); } while((l = Brdline(b, '\n')) != nil) { n = Blinelen(b); if(n >= sizeof(buf)) { diag("%s: line too long", defs[i]); errorexit(); } strncpy(buf, l, n); n = getfields(buf, fields, nelem(fields), 1, " \t\r\n"); if(n == nelem(fields)) { diag("%s: bad format", defs[i]); errorexit(); } if ((*fields[1] != 'T') && (*fields[1] != 'D')) continue; s = lookup(fields[2], 0); if (*fields[1] == 'T') s->type = STEXT; else s->type = SDATA; s->value = strtol(fields[0], 0, 0); } Bterm(b); } } I.e. read the kname file, and for all the 'T' and 'D' entries, put a symbol table entry in for those names. Well, this sort of works, but I have not figured out how to make 8l NOT change the values of these symbols. In other words, print starts out with some value from 9pcdisk, but in 8.out it has a different value. Not what I want at all. I want 8.out to have a fixed up symbol for print, with the value found in 9pcdisk. I also think I'm missing some bits which are probably needed to link correctly. I set name, value, and type; I think I might need to set frame; are version and become required? If it's not obvious I need this to allow me to put code images into kernel space and call them. I'm doing this via a device I've called zoot (#z) since I don't believe anybody else is using #z. This work is for two uses: modules and Plan 9 booting Plan 9. I started on Plan 9 booting Plan 9 since fixing 9load AND Plan 9 issues for linuxbios is twice as much work as just trying to fix Plan 9 for linuxbios. If Plan 9 can boot Plan 9, then I can stop worrying about 9load. Now if somebody has already done both these things just tell me and I can stop :-) BTW #z, so far, is in port, not pc, and I hope to keep it that way. ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 9 23:56:52 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 9 23:56:52 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 6195 invoked by uid 1020); 9 Jul 2003 23:56:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 6190 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 23:56:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 23:56:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E1E7819B8F; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 10:56:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 244FD19B78; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 10:56:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A190119B5F; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 10:55:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rapido.vitanuova.com (unknown [62.254.170.97]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3266D19B24 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 10:55:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <56156a60fc995930065001592e6f105a@vitanuova.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? From: rog@vitanuova.com In-Reply-To: <008601c34591$54e87200$d2944251@insultant.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 15:58:30 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > yes, tis true, but only temporarily > > tis true it's a god-awful algorithm. for the kind of thing i think matt was thinking of, something like (limbo for brevity, i'm afraid): items: list of Item; while((item := getnextitem()) != nil) items = item :: items; a := array[len items] of Item; for(i := 0; items != nil; items = tl items) a[i++] = hd items; the amount of data copying is only O(n); if i'd been expanding an array, it would have been O(n log n). that's doesn't seem bad *algorithmicly* although the heap overheads might be bad in practise. i confess to having used this technique before. i'm probably missing something crucial. why is it a "god-awful algorithm"? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 00:43:41 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 00:43:41 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 7295 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 00:43:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 7291 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 00:43:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 00:43:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A21D019B53; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:43:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5021319B5F; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:43:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 57FB119B5F; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:42:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5AA2319B53 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:42:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h69Fg2eH008270 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:42:02 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h69Fg2JM008266 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:42:02 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] now for something completely devfs :) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:42:02 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Now I have a venti, I'm keeping score, emailing it to myself every morning (thanx to nemo's suggestions!) and am ready to embark on something that'll break the machine completely! I decide to create a devfs mirror. The fossil installation page on the wiki gives some instructions, but the main part is missing -- how to write the first disk to the second one? In the hardware RAID world, there are utilities provided for copying a hard drive 'en masse' to others to create the mirror. With devfs I'm supposed to do it myself. But what do I copy? The entire drive (dd -if /dev/sdC0/data -of /dev/sdD0/data)? Partition by partition? The wiki says: If you already have a fossil and want to add another disk to mirror it, you can setup the mirror as said before, start your fossil and while you are using it, use dd(1) to copy the first device to the new one. Since writes go to all devices but reads are performed just by the first device as long as it works it can be done this way. but what does 'other one' mean here? am I supposed to do something like: dd -if /dev/sdC0/isect -of /dev/fs/isect ? (ok, I try that -- I echo a file to sdD0's isect, run the command, it takes much longer than normal, completes, I run cmp on the two drives -- they're not the same.) Another thing: I should *not*, repeat *not* mirror 9fat with devfs, right? Because if I do the machine becomes unbootable. MBR... shows up, but 9load is nowhere to be found. also: how do I know if one of my /dev/fs/ mirrored disks has crashed? I mean, without rebooting :) andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 01:02:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 01:02:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 7779 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 01:02:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 7775 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 01:02:21 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 01:02:21 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 39FFD19B9A; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 12:02:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E3D6419B6F; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 12:02:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E05BD19B71; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 12:01:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F057219B6B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 12:01:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h69G1jeH008293 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 10:01:45 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h69G1jWU008289 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 10:01:45 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] now for something completely devfs :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 10:01:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) forgot to add that at the end I did something like: for (i in nvram 9fat isect fossil arenas) { dd -if /dev/sdC0/$i -of /dev/sdD0/$i -bs 8192 if(cmp /dev/sdC0/$i /dev/sdD0/$i) { end=success } if not{ end=failure } echo $end $i | mail mirtchov@cpsc } naturally the only one that was a failure was fossil, since things like cron write to /sys/log every 10 minutes (and 'dd' takes longer than that). hopefully devfs knows how to miraculously fix that, otherwise I don't see how I can ever have two identical mirrored disks... of course, all this was before I found out that 9fat shouldn't be mirrored.. :) ps: OT note -- it's interesting how trust is distributed among various operating systems, at least for me: - i'd never trust a linux system on an open network. i'm very paranoid about this box here, run firewalls and what have you - i'm fine with a freebsd box on the network -- it's much less chaotic, and i know that once fixed, the set of utilities that open ports to the internet will not change - i'm fine with a plan9 'out-of-the-box' install on the internet.. it instills trust in me that so far nobody has broken. i can just leave the box and never worry about it. on the other hand: - i couldn't care less if the disk on this linux box crashed.. i know i have important information on it, but somehow i can't be bothered to worry about backups - same data, but on freebsd -- I'd back that up several times a week, i don't know why, just seems reasonable, since the setup on the box is so nice and thorough and andrey-appeasing... it took time to arrive there, i don't want to do it again... - plan9 -- here i'm paranoid, i can set up a file server in less than half a day now, but I have so many personal scripts and modifications to the system, that losing them would feel like I'm completely naked... i'll go fix that 9fat partition now -- I keep a spare kfs disk just for that purpose :) From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 02:07:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 02:07:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 8956 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 02:07:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 8952 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 02:07:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 02:07:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 996E519B98; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 13:07:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EC23519B8C; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 13:07:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5C70319B4F; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 13:06:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nautilus.escet.urjc.es (nautilus.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.207]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C430C19B0B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 13:06:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <01eb95d1b74c640de263ed1bfb9e5e71@plan9.escet.urjc.es> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] now for something completely devfs :) From: Fco.J.Ballesteros From: nemo@plan9.escet.urjc.es In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-myghkvgtejtlhhoexqybtmqxwv" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:06:10 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-myghkvgtejtlhhoexqybtmqxwv Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I did setup the mirror before formatting venti/fossil partitions. Otherwise, you'd need to copy one disk to another while the partitions are idle. Let's say you have /dev/fs/mirror out of /dev/sdC0/part and /dev/sdC1/part If you add /dev/sdD0/part you could dd from either /dev/fs/mirror or from /dev/sdC[01]/part to /dev/sdD0/part. You should also add the device to devfs. I can help somehow, let me know. --upas-myghkvgtejtlhhoexqybtmqxwv Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by aquamar; Wed Jul 9 17:43:27 MDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8854219B60; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:43:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5021319B5F; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:43:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 57FB119B5F; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:42:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5AA2319B53 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:42:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h69Fg2eH008270 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:42:02 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h69Fg2JM008266 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:42:02 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] now for something completely devfs :) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:42:02 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Now I have a venti, I'm keeping score, emailing it to myself every morning (thanx to nemo's suggestions!) and am ready to embark on something that'll break the machine completely! I decide to create a devfs mirror. The fossil installation page on the wiki gives some instructions, but the main part is missing -- how to write the first disk to the second one? In the hardware RAID world, there are utilities provided for copying a hard drive 'en masse' to others to create the mirror. With devfs I'm supposed to do it myself. But what do I copy? The entire drive (dd -if /dev/sdC0/data -of /dev/sdD0/data)? Partition by partition? The wiki says: If you already have a fossil and want to add another disk to mirror it, you can setup the mirror as said before, start your fossil and while you are using it, use dd(1) to copy the first device to the new one. Since writes go to all devices but reads are performed just by the first device as long as it works it can be done this way. but what does 'other one' mean here? am I supposed to do something like: dd -if /dev/sdC0/isect -of /dev/fs/isect ? (ok, I try that -- I echo a file to sdD0's isect, run the command, it takes much longer than normal, completes, I run cmp on the two drives -- they're not the same.) Another thing: I should *not*, repeat *not* mirror 9fat with devfs, right? Because if I do the machine becomes unbootable. MBR... shows up, but 9load is nowhere to be found. also: how do I know if one of my /dev/fs/ mirrored disks has crashed? I mean, without rebooting :) andrey --upas-myghkvgtejtlhhoexqybtmqxwv-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 02:20:41 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 02:20:41 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 9110 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 02:20:40 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 9106 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 02:20:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 02:20:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CE98919B5A; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 13:20:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4A76A19B2A; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 13:20:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DCF2D19B5A; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 13:19:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E0B5C19B76 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 13:19:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h69HJkeH008533 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:19:46 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h69HJkkU008529 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:19:46 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] now for something completely devfs :) In-Reply-To: <01eb95d1b74c640de263ed1bfb9e5e71@plan9.escet.urjc.es> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:19:46 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) My fossil is working, but I still want to know if /dev/sdC0/fossil (for example) changes while I'm dd-ing it to /dev/sdD0/fossil, will devfs take care of that discrepancy? The other question -- is there a way to know whether one or more of the mirrored disks have crashed and take measures? Watch the HDD light on the front panel? (A RAID controller we have here actually says that the only way to know if a disk has crashed is to reboot the machine -- then the controller BIOS will detect it.) andrey On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Fco.J.Ballesteros wrote: > I did setup the mirror before formatting venti/fossil partitions. > > Otherwise, you'd need to copy one disk to another while the partitions > are idle. > > Let's say you have /dev/fs/mirror out of /dev/sdC0/part and /dev/sdC1/part > > If you add /dev/sdD0/part you could dd from either /dev/fs/mirror or > from /dev/sdC[01]/part to /dev/sdD0/part. You should also add the device > to devfs. > > I can help somehow, let me know. > From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 03:20:47 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 03:20:47 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10449 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 03:20:41 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10445 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 03:20:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 03:20:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CBEAE19AE2; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:20:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4E68A19A26; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:20:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7F87919AE2; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:19:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailrelay1.lanl.gov (mailrelay1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.101]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7485A19A23 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:19:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay1.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h69IJShH002497 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 12:19:28 -0600 Received: from maxroach.lanl.gov (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h69IJSUk005240 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 12:19:28 -0600 From: ron minnich To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.35 Subject: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 12:19:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I'm hearing the claim that fork is "useless and painful" (from an IBM K42 guy). Maybe it's just me, but I've always liked fork. Am I nuts? ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 03:27:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 03:27:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10524 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 03:27:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10520 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 03:27:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 03:27:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2BD0819B1B; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:27:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 98C0419A23; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:27:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D72CA19A26; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:26:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from galapagos.cse.psu.edu (galapagos.cse.psu.edu [130.203.12.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 42A3F19A1F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:26:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21053 invoked by uid 991); 9 Jul 2003 18:26:24 -0000 Message-ID: <20030709182624.21052.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? In-reply-to: References: Comments: In-reply-to ron minnich message dated "Wed, 09 Jul 2003 12:19:28 -0600." From: Scott Schwartz Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 14:26:23 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Ron says: | I'm hearing the claim that fork is "useless and painful" (from an IBM K42 | guy). | | Maybe it's just me, but I've always liked fork. | | Am I nuts? Not at all. But all the published programs that people see use pthreads, which is an anti-unix design. If you want to change people's minds, you have to show them programs that use rfork effectively. (Linux has cleverly engineered clone so that it can't be used directly, which feeds the idea that pthreads are the right thing.) From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 03:37:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 03:37:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10670 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 03:37:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10666 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 03:37:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 03:37:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C65ED19BAB; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:37:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 81F8A19B9D; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:37:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D146619AF6; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:36:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2670219A26 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:36:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07024 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:36:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h69Ia2727769 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:36:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307091836.h69Ia2727769@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 09 Jul 2003 12:19:28 MDT." From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 14:36:01 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I'm hearing the claim that fork is "useless and painful" (from an IBM K42 > guy). > > Maybe it's just me, but I've always liked fork. > Am I nuts? Well, for what? I find fork useful for all sorts of things For running another program, I never did quite figure out why there wasn't a `spawn' library function that did the dance for you; I could see fork() looking like an unnecessary extra step if that's all you ever saw it do, but then I'd just point to pipelines of commands and the simplicity of `backgrounding' a process as a counter example. And, of course, rfork() is pretty cool, as Scott pointed out. - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 03:42:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 03:42:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10705 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 03:42:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10701 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 03:42:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 03:42:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 33DD619A1D; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:42:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 768FC199E3; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:42:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5B81019A6E; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:41:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nautilus.escet.urjc.es (nautilus.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.207]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EA27219A1D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:41:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <6891119e090a91ad091eb75594181ae5@plan9.escet.urjc.es> From: Fco.J.Ballesteros From: nemo@plan9.escet.urjc.es To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] now for something completely devfs :) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-ubnqzxuszabmfcihpymayqnbln" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 20:43:58 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-ubnqzxuszabmfcihpymayqnbln Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit if you have several partitions configure in devfs, them all are updated. If you config the mirror before dding, then dd takes care of everything not updated during the dd, and devfs takes care of things updated while dding. Since devfs services reads from the first device (as long as it works), there's no problem in using it. There's a race of course, but you can probably check later with cmp (I did that a couple of times and the race did not hurt me). I'd try as hard as feasible to keep the partitions untouched, just in case... --upas-ubnqzxuszabmfcihpymayqnbln Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by aquamar; Wed Jul 9 19:20:28 MDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6F25C19BAA; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 13:20:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4A76A19B2A; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 13:20:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DCF2D19B5A; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 13:19:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E0B5C19B76 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 13:19:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h69HJkeH008533 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:19:46 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h69HJkkU008529 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:19:46 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] now for something completely devfs :) In-Reply-To: <01eb95d1b74c640de263ed1bfb9e5e71@plan9.escet.urjc.es> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:19:46 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) My fossil is working, but I still want to know if /dev/sdC0/fossil (for example) changes while I'm dd-ing it to /dev/sdD0/fossil, will devfs take care of that discrepancy? The other question -- is there a way to know whether one or more of the mirrored disks have crashed and take measures? Watch the HDD light on the front panel? (A RAID controller we have here actually says that the only way to know if a disk has crashed is to reboot the machine -- then the controller BIOS will detect it.) andrey On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Fco.J.Ballesteros wrote: > I did setup the mirror before formatting venti/fossil partitions. > > Otherwise, you'd need to copy one disk to another while the partitions > are idle. > > Let's say you have /dev/fs/mirror out of /dev/sdC0/part and /dev/sdC1/part > > If you add /dev/sdD0/part you could dd from either /dev/fs/mirror or > from /dev/sdC[01]/part to /dev/sdD0/part. You should also add the device > to devfs. > > I can help somehow, let me know. > --upas-ubnqzxuszabmfcihpymayqnbln-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 04:36:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 04:36:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11367 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 04:36:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11363 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 04:36:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 04:36:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 501FF19AD5; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 15:36:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4045C19A7D; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 15:36:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 91D8D19A7D; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 15:35:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-03.noos.net [212.198.2.72]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id ADEB419A82 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 15:35:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25269717 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jul 2003 19:35:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.72 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 9 Jul 2003 19:35:21 -0000 Message-ID: <002a01c34651$3b686ae0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 21:35:19 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Maybe it's just me, but I've always liked fork. yeah, i kinda like it too. on the one had we have fork() -- zero arguments. then, we have on NT CreateProcess() which takes 10 arguments and two of those are structs (iirc). now the only _feature_ here is that all the args and and values in the structs can be either 0 or NULL; write once, copy and paste everywhere. maybe it's just me. if 10 was 0? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 04:40:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 04:40:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11405 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 04:40:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11401 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 04:40:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 04:40:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9A51519AA6; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 15:40:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 79B4319A87; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 15:40:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id AB2E419AEA; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 15:39:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-12.noos.net [212.198.2.83]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B486919AA6 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 15:39:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24391915 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jul 2003 19:39:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.83 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 9 Jul 2003 19:39:56 -0000 Message-ID: <003001c34651$df539d00$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <20030709182624.21052.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 21:39:54 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > ... But all the published programs that people see use pthreads, > which is an anti-unix design. pthreads? yeah, i wrote some of that once -- ghastly. all those extra characters to type and if you get it wrong, well your code breaks. i think rob said once that: concurrent [thread] programming is beyond the capabilities of most programmers. i tend to agree. look what they did to ls(1) on lunix ... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 04:43:24 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 04:43:24 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11479 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 04:43:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11475 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 04:43:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 04:43:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E134B19AEF; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 15:43:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D848619A87; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 15:43:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BB77719A87; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 15:42:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-09.noos.net [212.198.2.80]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E13C419A70 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 15:42:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 83282554 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jul 2003 19:42:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.80 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 9 Jul 2003 19:42:20 -0000 Message-ID: <003b01c34652$35b19940$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <56156a60fc995930065001592e6f105a@vitanuova.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 21:42:19 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > why is it a "god-awful algorithm"? because it is [unecessarily] two pass. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 04:46:21 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 04:46:21 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11544 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 04:46:21 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11540 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 04:46:20 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 04:46:20 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6D5D019AEE; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 15:46:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 918BF199F4; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 15:46:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 720A819ADE; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 15:45:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8EA3219A75 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 15:45:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16412 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 15:45:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h69JjT728195 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 15:45:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307091945.h69JjT728195@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 09 Jul 2003 21:39:54 +0200." <003001c34651$df539d00$b9844051@insultant.net> From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 15:45:29 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > i tend to agree. look what they did to ls(1) on lunix ... Okay, this *raises* the question (Hi, Matt!): What *did* they do to ls on lunix? The only thing I've noticed about it is that they've changed around the default sorting order, and I can't find a way to get the traditional behavior. Actually, it's really irritating. - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 05:06:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 05:06:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12113 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 05:06:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12109 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 05:06:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 05:06:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6AE5219A75; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:06:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BA76419A70; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:06:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9AE0919A70; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:05:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.74.5]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id ABA8619A26 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:05:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cisco.com (144.254.74.60) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 09 Jul 2003 22:05:32 +0200 Received: from cisco.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ams-msg-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h69K3B8Q005564 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 22:03:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from dfawcus@localhost) by cisco.com (8.8.8/2.6/Cisco List Logging/8.8.8) id VAA25074 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 21:05:15 +0100 (BST) From: Derek Fawcus To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? Message-ID: <20030709210515.A6186@edinburgh.cisco.com> References: <003001c34651$df539d00$b9844051@insultant.net> <200307091945.h69JjT728195@augusta.math.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200307091945.h69JjT728195@augusta.math.psu.edu>; from cross@math.psu.edu on Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 03:45:29PM -0400 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 21:05:15 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 03:45:29PM -0400, Dan Cross wrote: > The only thing I've noticed about it is that they've > changed around the default sorting order, and I can't find a way to > get the traditional behavior. Actually, it's really irritating. I find it really bloody annoying, however 'LC_ALL=C ls' put's things back the way they should be... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 05:10:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 05:10:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12174 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 05:10:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12170 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 05:10:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 05:10:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E120C19A60; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:10:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6BE0B19A70; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:10:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3D8F319A7D; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:09:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 57EEA19A60 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:09:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h69K9HeH008899 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:09:17 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h69K9Hac008895 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:09:17 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? In-Reply-To: <20030709210515.A6186@edinburgh.cisco.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:09:17 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Derek Fawcus wrote: > I find it really bloody annoying, however 'LC_ALL=C ls' put's things > back the way they should be... > and "export LD_DEBUG=all; ls" will show you things you never wanted to know :) From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 05:15:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 05:15:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12232 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 05:15:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12228 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 05:15:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 05:15:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E99D619AF3; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:15:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 00BBC19A7D; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:15:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8B2FD19ADE; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:14:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-12.noos.net [212.198.2.83]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6962F19AA4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:14:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24561187 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jul 2003 20:14:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.83 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 9 Jul 2003 20:14:10 -0000 Message-ID: <006501c34656$a8077a60$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <003001c34651$df539d00$b9844051@insultant.net> <200307091945.h69JjT728195@augusta.math.psu.edu> <20030709210515.A6186@edinburgh.cisco.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 22:14:09 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Actually, it's really irritating. well there is that. and the ls | mc default and the colours based on file type ... explain to my why: ls and: ls | cat give diffferent visual [human readable] outputs? oh, yeah, don't forget the mmap() implementation of cat -- try that on a pipe ... now, don't get me all contrary ... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 05:26:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 05:26:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12398 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 05:26:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12394 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 05:26:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 05:26:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7B3A519AF6; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:26:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0FDDA19A70; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:26:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8C48919A71; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:25:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DB70A19A6E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:25:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21465 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:25:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h69KPQ728367 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:25:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307092025.h69KPQ728367@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 09 Jul 2003 21:05:15 BST." <20030709210515.A6186@edinburgh.cisco.com> From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 16:25:26 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Derek Fawcus writes: > > On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 03:45:29PM -0400, Dan Cross wrote: > > The only thing I've noticed about it is that they've > > changed around the default sorting order, and I can't find a way to > > get the traditional behavior. Actually, it's really irritating. > > I find it really bloody annoying, however 'LC_ALL=C ls' put's things > back the way they should be... Ahh.... Thanks to you and Vic for telling me this. I feel much more at home now. - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 05:32:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 05:32:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12478 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 05:32:38 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12473 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 05:32:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 05:32:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 718BA19AFA; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:32:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 427B719AA4; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:32:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7ABB819AEA; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:31:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BE8C919A53 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:31:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22229 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:31:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h69KVS728420 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:31:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307092031.h69KVS728420@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 09 Jul 2003 22:14:09 +0200." <006501c34656$a8077a60$b9844051@insultant.net> From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 16:31:28 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) "boyd, rounin" writes: > > > Actually, it's really irritating. > > well there is that. and the ls | mc default and the colours based on file > type ... Oh, I turned that junk off. Ls is aliased to ls -1A and lc is aliased to ls | mc, as it should be (using my Unix version of mc). > oh, yeah, don't forget the mmap() implementation of cat -- try that on a pipe > ... Yeah, that is dumb. > now, don't get me all contrary ... :-) I still find Lunix horrible, but at least it's tolerable for the most part at this point. - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 05:35:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 05:35:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12494 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 05:35:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12490 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 05:35:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 05:35:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2DFB919B20; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:35:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9151C19AFB; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:35:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6322019AFE; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:34:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.74.5]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7C41219B05 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:34:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cisco.com (144.254.74.60) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 09 Jul 2003 22:34:13 +0200 Received: from cisco.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ams-msg-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h69KVwOM009206 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 22:31:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from dfawcus@localhost) by cisco.com (8.8.8/2.6/Cisco List Logging/8.8.8) id VAA26373 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 21:34:02 +0100 (BST) From: Derek Fawcus To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? Message-ID: <20030709213402.B6186@edinburgh.cisco.com> References: <20030709210515.A6186@edinburgh.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from mirtchov@cpsc.ucalgary.ca on Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 02:09:17PM -0600 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 21:34:02 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 02:09:17PM -0600, andrey mirtchovski wrote: > On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Derek Fawcus wrote: > > > I find it really bloody annoying, however 'LC_ALL=C ls' put's things > > back the way they should be... > > > > and "export LD_DEBUG=all; ls" will show you things you never wanted to know and those are the reasons I've replaced the my ls with the one from embutils From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 06:09:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 06:09:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13188 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 06:09:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13184 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 06:09:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 06:09:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 097A3199FC; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 17:09:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 877FD199FC; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 17:09:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D82D419AE9; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 17:08:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.cistron.nl (smtp2.cistron.nl [62.216.30.41]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 324AD19ABB for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 17:08:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cust.7.19.adsl.cistron.nl ([62.216.7.19]) by smtp2.cistron.nl with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19aMBI-0003Vj-00 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 09 Jul 2003 23:08:53 +0200 From: Vincent van Gelderen To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200307092308.36905.lunix@plan9.cistron.nl> Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 23:08:36 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Wednesday 09 July 2003 22:09, andrey mirtchovski wrote: > and "export LD_DEBUG=all; ls" will show you things you never wanted to know > Incroyable! On my particular machine: linux:~> (export LD_DEBUG=all; ls /dev/zero) 2>&1 | wc 1093 6380 74269 Regards, Vincent van Gelderen From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 06:27:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 06:27:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13464 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 06:27:22 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13460 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 06:27:21 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 06:27:21 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A403D19B0F; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 17:27:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B5F9419AEA; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 17:27:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CA90819ABF; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 17:26:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athena.softcardsystems.com (mail.softcardsystems.com [12.34.136.114]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 243E0199D2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 17:26:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athena (athena [12.34.136.114]) by athena.softcardsystems.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h69KV5Eh008792 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:31:05 -0400 From: Sam X-Sender: To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? In-Reply-To: <200307092308.36905.lunix@plan9.cistron.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:31:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Incroyable! On my particular machine: > > linux:~> (export LD_DEBUG=all; ls /dev/zero) 2>&1 | wc > 1093 6380 74269 $ LD_DEBUG=all ls /dev/zero 2>&1 | wc 1388 8913 94822 $ Bugger. Your ls must be more optimised. ;) Sam From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 06:34:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 06:34:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13534 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 06:34:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13530 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 06:34:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 06:34:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D94E919B28; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 17:34:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C95DD19AF5; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 17:34:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E4A2719B04; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 17:33:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cerberus.uk.clara.net (cerberus.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.103]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 356B119AEA for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 17:33:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from martin.althoff.claranet.co.uk ([213.253.17.40] helo=127.0.0.1) by cerberus.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #3) id 19aMYi-000AH6-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Wed, 09 Jul 2003 22:33:04 +0100 From: Martin Althoff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <19251203453.20030709223304@tiscali.co.uk> To: james <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] mach64xx video blues In-Reply-To: <5d408e9f.0307051426.14f00186@posting.google.com> References: <5d408e9f.0307051426.14f00186@posting.google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: "martin.althoff" List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 22:33:04 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) James, Unfortunately I cannot add much constructive information... 'xcept that I can join in on the woes. I am not sure whether it is exactly the same problem. Probably not quite... During installation everything went fine. Since I had to start the installation several times for other reasons, I permutated resolutions: 640x480x8/16, 800x600x8, 1024x768x16. All were perfectly ok during installation. Until the first reboot. _All_ resolutions caused this "banding", windows not redrawn properly, highlighting not showing up. I am using an orignal ATI PCI Mach64 on an Intel motherboard. This board has an intel video chipset on-board, but that _should_ be disabled. Using that does not work, it just gives a blank screen. Did you also have the problem during installation or only after it had finished? For my part, I am trying to figure out what is the difference between the installation and "standard" boot situation. Hope we can piece this together... Martin <<<<<================>>>>> From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 06:36:20 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 06:36:20 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13572 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 06:36:19 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13568 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 06:36:19 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 06:36:19 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D4B9219B17; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 17:36:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A851A19AEA; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 17:36:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D93CA19B25; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 17:35:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-02.noos.net [212.198.2.71]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F250019B17 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 17:35:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17122947 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jul 2003 21:35:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.71 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 9 Jul 2003 21:35:30 -0000 Message-ID: <00c001c34662$0406ce00$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 23:35:28 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Incroyable! quelle putain de connerie!! From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 07:02:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 07:02:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13821 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 07:02:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13817 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 07:02:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 07:02:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A45A619AFB; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:02:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8A87E19A32; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:02:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4F46819A25; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:01:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from collyer.net (adsl-63-192-14-226.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.192.14.226]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 22BCE19A04 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:01:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? From: Geoff Collyer In-Reply-To: <200307091945.h69JjT728195@augusta.math.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 15:01:00 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) The latest bit of whacked behaviour can be seen on RedHat 9, where if you don't set LANG in your .profile, you get LANG=en_US.UTF-8, which does this: : secgw.sec; ls -lA total 716 -r--r--r-- 1 geoff geoff 92160 2003-06-22 21:36 9wm-1.2.tar lrwxrwxrwx 1 geoff geoff 11 2003-06-22 20:03 .acrorc -> lib/.acrorc lrwxrwxrwx 1 geoff geoff 9 2003-06-22 20:18 .bash_history -> /dev/null drwxr-xr-x 4 geoff geoff 4096 2003-06-22 16:13 bin -rw------- 1 geoff geoff 16 2003-06-26 23:09 .esd_auth lrwxrwxrwx 1 geoff geoff 15 2003-06-22 20:03 .find.codes -> lib/.find.codes -rw-rw-r-- 1 geoff geoff 24030 2003-07-01 02:13 .fonts.cache-1 -rw-rw-r-- 1 geoff geoff 99551 2003-06-25 05:07 FOOFILE -rw-rw-r-- 1 geoff geoff 315392 2003-06-25 05:49 FOOFILE2 -rw-rw-r-- 1 geoff geoff 126 2003-06-25 05:56 FOOFILE3 different unhelpful sort order, ugly all-numeric dashed dates and ghod only knows what other stupidity. Luckily, adding LANG=C to your .profile defeats this. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 07:05:23 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 07:05:23 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13847 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 07:05:23 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13843 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 07:05:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 07:05:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D477319B3F; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:05:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2268B19ABF; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:05:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1856019AEA; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:04:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3807C19A04 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:04:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h69M4beH009070 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:04:37 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h69M4btT009066 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:04:37 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:04:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Sam wrote: > > Bugger. Your ls must be more optimised. ;) > I bet you're running a later distribution -- with linux those things just grow uncontrollably with time. expect 'ld' in the kernel come 2.6.0... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 07:09:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 07:09:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13899 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 07:09:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13895 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 07:09:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 07:09:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A35A019B57; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:09:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id ACDC419B0D; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:09:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EA5E019B40; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:08:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zephir.uk.clara.net (zephir.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.53]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3ECB619B0D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:08:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from martin.althoff.claranet.co.uk ([213.253.17.40] helo=127.0.0.1) by zephir.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19aN6i-0004eg-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Wed, 09 Jul 2003 23:08:12 +0100 From: Martin Althoff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <653311640.20030709230812@tiscali.co.uk> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] partdisk is greedy... Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: "martin.althoff" List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 23:08:12 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Starting of with a new installation on a previously used disk. The point where partdisk comes around, I first deleted all partitions previously on the disk (20GB Maxtor) and created a new one (a p1 0 512) giving me a partition of just short or 4GB. Execute write, quit and I land at partdisk again. It shows a blank partition table. Accepting the default p1 on the blanked disk and writing that to the mbr is fine. I can continue the installation. Variants I have tried: - Another disk (20GB IBM) - same effect. - Putting a DOS (no, not denial of service) 2 GB partition on the disk first. Same thing: if I allow partdisk to take the whole space things are fine. Giving just a part of the disk does not work. Is partdisk greedy?? Any other ideas? Help greatly appreciated. All the best, Martin Written Wednesday, July 9, 2003 at 22:59:19 From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 07:29:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 07:29:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 14165 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 07:29:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 14161 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 07:29:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 07:29:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E6E4B19B1C; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:29:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1BB1B19B0D; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:29:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 342C019ABF; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:28:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-08.noos.net [212.198.2.77]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 44E7F19A70 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:28:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6547264 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jul 2003 22:28:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.77 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 9 Jul 2003 22:28:52 -0000 Message-ID: <011101c34669$78dbffa0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 00:28:50 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) i quick test for an idiot european is: env | egrep 'LANG|LC_' if LANG != C or LC_ALL != C you have a prize idiot because they are trusting the interesting instationaliZation (sic) done by americans. doing that stuff is hard and lunix got it all wrong. given that i'm feeling 'contrary': why doesn't the installation process ask you what sort of keyboard you have? i can type qwerty, azerty and swedish qwerty but it really is a pain to have to type qwerty on an azerty keyboard to get to the point where i can type chars to build the kernel etc that i want. the 'kbmap' stuff is trivial to install if you can type the chars on the keyboard. trying to install it when you don't have a qwerty keyboard, well it's less than pleasant. it wouldn't be hard to add and it would make the system more open to europeans. i'd do it, mais j'ai d'autres chats ŕ foutter ... and going back to being 'contrary' your setup had better look pretty much like what they have at the labs. this is a semi-criticism, because it's 1127-centric but (thank ...) it's not the 'army of programmers' ... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 07:32:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 07:32:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 14231 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 07:32:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 14216 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 07:32:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 07:32:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1A07E19B66; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1819619B40; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:32:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 869F719B4F; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:31:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-06.noos.net [212.198.2.75]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A99ED19B42 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:31:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7177558 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jul 2003 22:31:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.75 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 9 Jul 2003 22:31:51 -0000 Message-ID: <011701c34669$e3640840$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 00:31:49 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I bet you're running a later distribution -- with linux those things > just grow uncontrollably with time. debian's apt-get: it's not apt, but it does get [on your nerves] From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 07:53:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 07:53:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15320 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 07:53:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15316 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 07:53:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 07:53:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9965C19AA4; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:53:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4545719B0A; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:53:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2B97819AA4; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:52:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from collyer.net (adsl-63-192-14-226.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.192.14.226]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CB26219AA4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:52:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2c2226061eedb01d1a6fd20d2e42a947@collyer.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] now for something completely devfs :) From: Geoff Collyer In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 15:52:51 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I think the paragraph on the wiki would be clearer like this: If you already have a fossil and want to add another disk to mirror it, you can setup the mirror as said before, with the original fossil device (possibly a partition) being mirrored by the new disk, start your fossil and while you are using it, use dd(1) to copy the fossil device to the mirror device or partition. Since writes go to all devices in the mirror but reads are performed just by the first device (as long as it has no read errors), the copy can be made this way with relative safety. Races are still possible, since dd might read a block from the fossil device, fossil might change it and write it to both devices (original fossil and mirror) and then dd might write the now-stale block to the mirror, so it's safer to make the copy when fossil (and venti, if you mirror it) are idle. This might require booting your file server off another standalone Plan 9 file & cpu server. How do you know if a disk in a mirror has died? The kernel should print I/O-error messages on the console. devfs should cope until you can shut the system down and replace the dying disk. With modern disks, I/O errors are generally a sign of degradation: the disk has forwarded as many bad sectors as it can and now the reserved bad sector areas are full. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 07:56:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 07:56:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15373 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 07:56:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15369 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 07:56:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 07:56:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6A72019B5E; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:56:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2D3C019B37; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:56:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2614219B0A; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:55:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2830F19B19 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:55:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h69MsoeH009133 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:54:50 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h69MsoDe009129 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:54:50 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: OT lunix rants (Was: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful?) In-Reply-To: <011101c34669$78dbffa0$b9844051@insultant.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:54:50 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, boyd, rounin wrote: > i quick test for an idiot european is: > > env | egrep 'LANG|LC_' > since we're ranting, anyways: to read utf-8 in lunix I need to set: LANG=en_US.UTF-8 (no, not bg_BG.UTF-8, because then lpr decides to print in A4 only, and there's no printer here that'd do it, unless I have a dead chicken to wave at it. we have mad cow in calgary, not dead chickens) -u8 to xterm (no chance of using other terminals -- 9term works with utf, but linux doesn't work with 9term) -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso10646-1 - my personal favourite. sometimes I need to switch fonts because this one doesn't have a full set of glyphs.. -iconv handy -- for all the stupid bulgarians that still use KOI8-r, Windows-cp1251, KOI8-u, Codepage-866, ISO-8859-5 and god knows what else to write utf-8 in lunix I need to set (in X11): -Option "XkbLayout" "bg" #Option "XkbVariant" "" -- to tell it that it's a bulgarian sitting behind the keyboard (to scare it perhaps and force X into submission?) -Option "XkbVariant" "phonetic_enhanced" -- 'phonetic_bds' is a local to eastern european countries layout for typewriters, where all the vowels are on one side of the keyboard, it's there in case we ought to torture somebody and are out of other options -Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll" -- try to decipher that on your own. There is no conceivable set of documentation that explains how to do it in one go -- one has to be 'enlightened' by somebody who already knows this stuff. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 08:03:45 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 08:03:45 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15486 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 08:03:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15481 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 08:03:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 08:03:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8E64619B6D; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:03:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1AC7519B37; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:03:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5579419B42; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:02:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from collyer.net (adsl-63-192-14-226.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.192.14.226]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5E6CC19B19 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:02:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <079665054be2c120cca55284ad919672@collyer.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] now for something completely devfs :) From: Geoff Collyer In-Reply-To: <2c2226061eedb01d1a6fd20d2e42a947@collyer.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:02:06 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Andrey, I can't get mail to you; it bounces with this: --- Your request ``smtp /net.alt/tcp!cpsc.ucalgary.ca mirtchov '' failed (code smtp 685: Permanent Failure). The symptom was: Wed Jul 9 15:58:59 PDT 2003 connect to /net.alt/tcp!cpsc.ucalgary.ca: 554 fsa.cpsc.ucalgary.ca ESMTP not accepting messages --- Anyway, yes, I'll update the wiki. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 08:27:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 08:27:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15957 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 08:27:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15953 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 08:27:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 08:27:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7EFB919B37; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:27:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 579D319B42; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:27:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D99F319B5B; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:26:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-05.noos.net [212.198.2.74]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 09ECC19B37 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:26:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6949969 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jul 2003 23:26:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.74 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 9 Jul 2003 23:26:07 -0000 Message-ID: <013901c34671$78244ec0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: OT lunix rants (Was: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful?) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 01:26:05 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > There is no conceivable set of documentation that explains how to do it in > one go -- one has to be 'enlightened' by somebody who already knows this > stuff. yup, welcome to lunix ... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 08:33:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 08:33:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 16116 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 08:33:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 16111 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 08:33:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 08:33:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EB93719B7A; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:33:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D377C19B42; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:33:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4EE4F19B63; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:32:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from galapagos.cse.psu.edu (galapagos.cse.psu.edu [130.203.12.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id CF55919B19 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25364 invoked by uid 991); 9 Jul 2003 23:32:15 -0000 Message-ID: <20030709233215.25363.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] now for something completely devfs :) In-reply-to: <2c2226061eedb01d1a6fd20d2e42a947@collyer.net> References: <2c2226061eedb01d1a6fd20d2e42a947@collyer.net> Comments: In-reply-to Geoff Collyer message dated "Wed, 09 Jul 2003 15:52:51 -0700." From: Scott Schwartz Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 19:32:15 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) | How do you know if a disk in a mirror has died? The kernel should | print I/O-error messages on the console. Maybe /dev/fs/status could do the job, too. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 08:45:40 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 08:45:40 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 16428 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 08:45:38 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 16413 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 08:45:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 08:45:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E6C5B19B7C; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:45:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CC71D19AF5; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:45:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B965019B6C; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:44:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-02.noos.net [212.198.2.71]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D18B819A64 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:44:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17196016 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jul 2003 23:44:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.71 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 9 Jul 2003 23:44:22 -0000 Message-ID: <01a801c34674$048b6220$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <2c2226061eedb01d1a6fd20d2e42a947@collyer.net> <20030709233215.25363.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] now for something completely devfs :) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 01:44:19 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > | How do you know if a disk in a mirror has died? The kernel should > | print I/O-error messages on the console. > > Maybe /dev/fs/status could do the job, too. death of a mirror/raid disk is something you want to know about. those Digital StorageWorks raid arrays were something, once you had them set up. i had disks dying every month but the array would pick a free disk and just continue. iirc, the RZ-2[89]'s were incredibly unreliable. good thing i had them in mirrors or raid 5. the interface was a bit VMS-ey, but it walked all over those horrible EMC2 fiber channel horrors ... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 09:06:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 09:06:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 16952 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 09:06:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 16948 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 09:06:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 09:06:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 95A4919B81; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 20:06:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 841F319B6B; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 20:06:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 58FF919B6F; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 20:05:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8A89D19B63 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 20:05:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] security hole Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 20:07:05 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I plugged a security hole in Plan 9. It involved the state of a process after it did a newns(). Newns() is used to create a new namespace, usually after a process has changed uid (like when someone attaches to a server: telnet, ssh, ...). Newns opens a file, called a namespace file, that describes the new namespace and then follows the instructions inside (see /lib/namespace). Newns(2) creates a new namespace, but until the process calling newns does a chdir through /, it's local directory is still in the old name space. If the process then navigates the name space using relative commands (chdir(".."), open("../lib/profile")) it is walking the space using the priviledges of the OLD user id. Because of the way namespaces are usually set up, this doesn't normally happen. All the normal namespace files themselves do a chdir to /usr/$user effectively leaving the old namespace before newns returns. However, if either there wasn't such a chdir in the namespace file, i.e., if you've removed it for your installation or /usr/$user (and also /usr/none) doesn't exist then it was possible for a user to log in (for example via telnet or ssh) and end up in a directory like /usr/bootes in which they still had the rights of bootes. Neither situation applied to the labs since we have a /usr/none but one user in Japan (YAMANASHI Takeshi ) discovered it when he created an account with no home dir. I changed newns() to fix the problem. It now always leaves you chdir'd into a directory in the current namespace. It does that by first seeing if the namespace file has already caused a chdir through the root. If not, it effectively does a chdir(getpwd). If that fails, it does a chdir("/"). This is a change in semantics. I haven't found (by inspection) any programs that would be bothered by it but please tell me if you see anything fishy since I'm about to update sources with the change. I've been running our servers here with the change for a few days and all seems well. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 10:12:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 10:12:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 19835 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 10:12:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 19831 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 10:12:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 10:12:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 97C7019B78; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 21:12:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 39F0A19A07; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 21:12:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 781C319B7B; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 21:11:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailrelay1.lanl.gov (mailrelay1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.101]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6D01819A07 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 21:11:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay1.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6A1BQDP008664 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:11:26 -0600 Received: from maxroach.lanl.gov (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6A1BQUk020080 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:11:26 -0600 From: ron minnich To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? In-Reply-To: <200307092308.36905.lunix@plan9.cistron.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.35 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:11:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Vincent van Gelderen wrote: > On Wednesday 09 July 2003 22:09, andrey mirtchovski wrote: > > > and "export LD_DEBUG=all; ls" will show you things you never wanted to know > > > > Incroyable! On my particular machine: > > linux:~> (export LD_DEBUG=all; ls /dev/zero) 2>&1 | wc > 1093 6380 74269 As I said when I first posted this number a year ago, back when it only fixed up 300-odd symbols: "masataka ohta, where are you now, you were right all along" ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 10:19:11 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 10:19:11 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20089 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 10:18:50 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20072 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 10:18:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 10:18:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 72E2719B91; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 21:18:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7DD6219B7F; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 21:18:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7723B19B7F; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 21:17:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-11.noos.net [212.198.2.82]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9C9BB19A07 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 21:17:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 105644989 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jul 2003 01:17:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.82 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 10 Jul 2003 01:17:21 -0000 Message-ID: <01e801c34681$02265d20$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 03:17:18 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > fixed up 300-odd symbols: symbols? give me an LA-120 printed VAX stack backtrace and adb and i'm happy. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 13:12:35 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 13:12:35 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 28449 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 13:12:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 28445 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 13:12:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 13:12:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6621519B6A; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 00:12:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5129D19ADD; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 00:12:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3D7BF19A94; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 00:11:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 95417199B6 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 00:11:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Thu Jul 10 00:12:55 EDT 2003 Received: from 209.23.14.44 ([209.23.14.44]) by plan9; Thu Jul 10 00:12:51 EDT 2003 Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple question From: "Russ Cox" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 23:59:57 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > space and call them. I'm doing this via a device I've called zoot (#z) > since I don't believe anybody else is using #z. /sys/src/9/port/master says otherwise. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 13:12:45 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 13:12:45 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 28466 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 13:12:45 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 28461 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 13:12:44 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 13:12:44 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 448D519B9B; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 00:12:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 30ABB19B2F; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 00:12:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 895C119A94; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 00:11:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E4B87199B6 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 00:11:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Thu Jul 10 00:13:03 EDT 2003 Received: from 209.23.14.44 ([209.23.14.44]) by plan9; Thu Jul 10 00:13:00 EDT 2003 Message-ID: <84150e2849766508075303e166ffc9ed@plan9.bell-labs.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp From: "Russ Cox" In-Reply-To: <00B9A19C-B1CB-11D7-9609-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 00:02:02 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > How do you send emails from notebook via Plan 9 server? > "POP3 before smtp" is a simple solution though not a best one. I use exactly that, via ratfs(4) and pop3(8). I'm surprised no one else mentioned this yet. Imap4 before smtp also works. Russ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 13:45:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 13:45:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 29817 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 13:45:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 29812 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 13:45:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 13:45:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EEF1219AEA; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 00:45:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7726819A64; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 00:45:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EF01B19ADD; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 00:44:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hope.attbi.com (12-234-61-69.client.attbi.com [12.234.61.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CAA40199FD for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 00:44:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hope.attbi.com (hope.attbi.com [127.0.0.1]) by hope.attbi.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6A4ijUZ001732 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 21:44:47 -0700 Received: from localhost (quantum@localhost) by hope.attbi.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6A4ihQO001728 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 21:44:44 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: hope.attbi.com: quantum owned process doing -bs From: Gregory Gorsuch To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] Video card Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: gorsuchg@yahoo.com List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 21:44:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I have a video card that sounds the same as your your s3 vision 968 (IABE3) except that it says made in japan and has a single Stealth 64 video VRAM 1995 Diamond 2.07 RAM on it (I have no clue how much RAM). I am trying to get it working in Linux but have had not luck. I saw your posting somewhere on the web and wondered if you had any information about getting this card working. Thanks. Greg From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 14:38:46 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 14:38:46 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 32520 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 14:38:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 32512 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 14:38:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 14:38:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 08DA019AED; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 01:38:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A1F8B19A6E; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 01:38:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A491A19A6E; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 01:37:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mobydick.int.entrisphere.com (unknown [63.203.52.228]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DFA56199D3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 01:37:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from entrisphere.com ([192.168.168.142]) by mobydick.int.entrisphere.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 9 Jul 2003 22:37:37 -0700 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple question In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 09 Jul 2003 23:59:57 EDT." From: Tad Hunt Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jul 2003 05:37:37.0324 (UTC) FILETIME=[5EF616C0:01C346A5] Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 22:37:37 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message , you said: ;> space and call them. I'm doing this via a device I've called zoot (#z) ;> since I don't believe anybody else is using #z. 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Does anyone run multiple fossils, all of them serviced by single venti server? I got running two fossils from a venti, one fossil to service an old 4th ed. file system listening on il and the other the breeding edge fs on tcp, and either hangs up occasionaly. When one hangs, hitting return doesn't give prompt `main:'. -- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 15:11:21 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 15:11:21 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 2628 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 15:11:21 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 2624 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 15:11:21 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 15:11:21 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8EC4319AA9; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 02:11:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C172619AEB; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 02:11:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B1E4419B2F; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 02:10:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ducky.net (ducky.net [66.93.167.66]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9167F19AA9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 02:10:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ducky.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ducky.net (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6A6AbeF072084 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 23:10:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@ducky.net) Received: (from mike@localhost) by ducky.net (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h6A6AaBt072083 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 23:10:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Haertel Message-Id: <200307100610.h6A6AaBt072083@ducky.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? In-Reply-To: <20030709210515.A6186@edinburgh.cisco.com> Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 23:10:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >> The only thing I've noticed about it is that they've >> changed around the default sorting order, and I can't find a way to >> get the traditional behavior. Actually, it's really irritating. > >I find it really bloody annoying, however 'LC_ALL=C ls' put's things >back the way they should be... I've seen this on Solaris too, so it's hardly a Linux thing. In fact, I saw it on Solaris before I ever saw it on Linux. So by the time it started popping up on Linux, I knew what to do. I am pleased to report that the disease has not yet spread to FreeBSD, at least. I think the root of the problem is that in Unix-family operating systems (including Plan 9) the shell and utilities have tried to serve two different masters, which is always hard. On one hand, they form a programming language, for which well-defined behavior is a paramount consideration. But on the other hand, they are a user interface. And people like their interfaces to conform to their prejudices and comfort zones, rather than having to conform their behavior to fit a logically minimal interface. This tension has been in Unix for a long time. An early example was the multi-column support in Berkeley "ls" which changed its behavior depending on whether it thought it was talking to a human or not. The recent disease of making all kinds of utilities default to using locale-specific sorting rather than native machine sorting is just the latest in a long line of plagues. The recent Unix/Posix changes are especially ironic and ill-conceived because they are attempting to change command-line interfaces to be more "user friendly" at a point in history when all the users who need "friendliness" are pretty much exclusively using graphical interfaces anyway. On the other hand, it would be fair to say that a lot of the power of Unix as a programming environment comes from developing familiarity, through routine interactive use, with tools that one can subsequently incorporate into programs. So if you can get people to use things interactively you may be able to turn them into programmers, and that may justify trying to engineer the command line environment in fuzzy human friendly ways. But while having logically unnecessary but supposedly human-friendly features may be reasonable, it's surely NOT an goal that justifies any design no matter how awful. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 15:16:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 15:16:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 2884 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 15:16:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 2880 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 15:16:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 15:16:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7D68119B88; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 02:16:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D674D19B7F; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 02:16:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4046C19B7F; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 02:15:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ducky.net (ducky.net [66.93.167.66]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4B33719B2F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 02:15:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ducky.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ducky.net (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6A6FheF072116 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 23:15:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@ducky.net) Received: (from mike@localhost) by ducky.net (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h6A6Fh7H072115 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 23:15:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Haertel Message-Id: <200307100615.h6A6Fh7H072115@ducky.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? In-Reply-To: Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 23:15:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >-rw-rw-r-- 1 geoff geoff 24030 2003-07-01 02:13 .fonts.cache-1 >-rw-rw-r-- 1 geoff geoff 99551 2003-06-25 05:07 FOOFILE > >different unhelpful sort order, ugly all-numeric dashed dates and ghod >only knows what other stupidity. Luckily, adding LANG=C to your >.profile defeats this. While I agree the sort ordering on names is terrible, I'd argue the "ugly all-numeric dashed dates" are actually more desirable than the traditional Unix format, because they are more sortable. With traditional Unix date strings you get into all sorts of ugly contortions if you want to run them through sort(1). System V added a -M option to sort to do grok month names, but it is still unpleasant. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 15:47:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 15:47:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 4428 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 15:47:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 4424 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 15:47:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 15:47:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A1FCE19B75; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 02:47:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 69B7B19B19; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 02:47:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5382119B22; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 02:46:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-12.noos.net [212.198.2.83]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 75FE519B19 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 02:46:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24682821 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jul 2003 06:46:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.83 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 10 Jul 2003 06:46:09 -0000 Message-ID: <001601c346ae$f10200c0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:46:05 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I thought that Brucee already did the compiler and device work to > make dynamically loadable kernel modules work. but this woulda been on inferno, right? bit like the OSI model really :) From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 15:52:27 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 15:52:27 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 4662 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 15:52:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 4658 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 15:52:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 15:52:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A63D419B19; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 02:52:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2FCE119B19; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 02:52:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E3BDA19B1A; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 02:51:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from collyer.net (adsl-63-192-14-226.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.192.14.226]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D5CC919A66 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 02:51:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <86c25708dfe8ed8efeedd415a82807f3@collyer.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? From: Geoff Collyer In-Reply-To: <200307100615.h6A6Fh7H072115@ducky.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 23:51:11 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Your point is taken. I wouldn't object as much to an option to ls (though ls already has too many options) to print times in the ugly all-numeric format or just as seconds since the epoch, but to change the default output format at this late date to the ugly format, with no obvious way to disable it (I can't see how in a quick reading of Linux's ls(1)), seems wrong. To really pick nits, why should setting LANG=en_US.UTF-8 bugger the sort order and change to all-numeric uglies? I'm an English-speaker in the US who prefers UTF-8, and I don't want any of this rubbish. Actually the all-numeric uglies I sort of understand; I'd never seen such aversion to four-digit years and month names, despite the ambiguity of all-numeric dates internationally, until I moved to the US. But if I wanted my ls output in `sort -df' order, I'd pipe it through `sort -df +8'. These changes are just somebody's favourite dumb ideas glommed onto a convenient locale. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 16:00:38 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 16:00:38 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 5077 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 16:00:37 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 5073 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 16:00:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 16:00:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 33F3A19B94; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 03:00:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F410319BA1; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 03:00:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1973E19B94; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 02:59:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-11.noos.net [212.198.2.82]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2B0BD19B8E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 02:59:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 103860123 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jul 2003 06:59:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.82 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 10 Jul 2003 06:59:22 -0000 Message-ID: <002401c346b0$ca44c9c0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Cc: "Fredrik Juhlin" References: <200307100610.h6A6AaBt072083@ducky.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:59:16 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I think the root of the problem is that in Unix-family operating > systems (including Plan 9) the shell and utilities have tried to > serve two different masters, which is always hard. internationalisation is hard. forget about french; all those diacritical marks are just the same as ' in english -- used to replace 'missing' characters: hôpital = hospital 'cos the ô = os whereas in swedish they have 3 extra real vowels. sure they have diacritical marks but they are _real characters_ with a collating sequence and a nasty set of pronounciation rules. take iso latin 1: sure, you have all the chars but it depends on _where_ you are as: Fredrik (listen to me) Juhlin pointed out to me and i had to rethink my internationalisation thoughts. and, yeah, he was right. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 16:23:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 16:23:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 6347 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 16:23:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 6340 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 16:23:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 16:23:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0403719BA7; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 03:23:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2737B19B5D; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 03:23:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 48B2F19B8E; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 03:22:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-08.noos.net [212.198.2.77]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 60B4819B5D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 03:22:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6755711 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jul 2003 07:22:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.77 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 10 Jul 2003 07:22:40 -0000 Message-ID: <003501c346b4$0b6c2440$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <86c25708dfe8ed8efeedd415a82807f3@collyer.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:22:39 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > To really pick nits, why should setting LANG=en_US.UTF-8 bugger the > sort order and change to all-numeric uglies? I'm an English-speaker > in the US who prefers UTF-8, and I don't want any of this rubbish. yup i bitch to google about such, err, assumpions. so i'm in oz, so i'm australian. i'm in france so i'm french. i'm in sweden so i'm swedish. NO, just shut up. i want http://www.google.com in english and they then tell me to use random URL whatever and it's in english, except the banner says: Google Français i know what i want; assumption being the mother of all clusterfucks. call me contrary, but i know what i want. it's all mike burrows' fault anyway ... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 17:11:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 17:11:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 8805 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 17:11:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 8801 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 17:11:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 17:11:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 62EB719A93; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 04:11:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 55DAE19B9D; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 04:11:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0F47E19A26; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 04:10:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nautilus.escet.urjc.es (nautilus.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.207]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B3B10199D3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 04:10:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] now for something completely devfs :) From: Fco.J.Ballesteros From: nemo@plan9.escet.urjc.es In-Reply-To: <20030709233215.25363.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-hahysqcuzzewjnaffpvmztvtsa" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:10:17 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-hahysqcuzzewjnaffpvmztvtsa Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The kernel does print messages. Doesn't it? from devfs.c: if (waserror()){ // if a read fails we let the user know and try // another device. print("#k: mread: (%llx %d): %s\n", c->qid.path, i, up->errstr); continue; } --upas-hahysqcuzzewjnaffpvmztvtsa Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by aquamar; Thu Jul 10 01:33:27 MDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4524019B7B; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:33:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D377C19B42; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:33:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4EE4F19B63; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:32:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from galapagos.cse.psu.edu (galapagos.cse.psu.edu [130.203.12.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id CF55919B19 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25364 invoked by uid 991); 9 Jul 2003 23:32:15 -0000 Message-ID: <20030709233215.25363.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] now for something completely devfs :) In-reply-to: <2c2226061eedb01d1a6fd20d2e42a947@collyer.net> References: <2c2226061eedb01d1a6fd20d2e42a947@collyer.net> Comments: In-reply-to Geoff Collyer message dated "Wed, 09 Jul 2003 15:52:51 -0700." From: Scott Schwartz Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 19:32:15 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) | How do you know if a disk in a mirror has died? The kernel should | print I/O-error messages on the console. Maybe /dev/fs/status could do the job, too. --upas-hahysqcuzzewjnaffpvmztvtsa-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 18:01:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 18:01:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10719 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 18:01:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10715 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 18:01:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 18:01:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BB5E319B83; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 05:01:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BFF5219BAC; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 05:01:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 52D3019BA0; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 05:00:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.74.5]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6693419B83 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 05:00:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cisco.com (144.254.74.60) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 10 Jul 2003 11:00:10 +0200 Received: from cisco.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ams-msg-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6A8vpKs019990 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:57:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from dfawcus@localhost) by cisco.com (8.8.8/2.6/Cisco List Logging/8.8.8) id JAA21380 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:59:57 +0100 (BST) From: Derek Fawcus To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? Message-ID: <20030710095957.C6186@edinburgh.cisco.com> References: <86c25708dfe8ed8efeedd415a82807f3@collyer.net> <003501c346b4$0b6c2440$b9844051@insultant.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <003501c346b4$0b6c2440$b9844051@insultant.net>; from boyd@insultant.net on Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 09:22:39AM +0200 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:59:57 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 09:22:39AM +0200, boyd, rounin wrote: > > To really pick nits, why should setting LANG=en_US.UTF-8 bugger the > > sort order and change to all-numeric uglies? I'm an English-speaker > > in the US who prefers UTF-8, and I don't want any of this rubbish. > > yup i bitch to google about such, err, assumpions. > > so i'm in oz, so i'm australian. > > i'm in france so i'm french. > > i'm in sweden so i'm swedish. Oh - I can beat that. I'm in the UK, but if I use google.com I get it in Dutch. That's would appear to be 'cause our network connectivity pops outside of the company in Amsterdam... DF From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 20:13:41 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 20:13:41 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15249 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 20:13:40 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15245 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 20:13:40 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 20:13:40 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 62C3E19B7B; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:13:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9E66F19BA4; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:13:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2CDFC19B35; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:12:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailrelay1.lanl.gov (mailrelay1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.101]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 27D1819B0A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:11:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay1.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6ABBpDP017471 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 05:11:51 -0600 Received: from maxroach.lanl.gov (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6ABBnUk000960 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 05:11:51 -0600 From: ron minnich To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.35 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 05:11:48 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Russ Cox wrote: > > space and call them. I'm doing this via a device I've called zoot (#z) > > since I don't believe anybody else is using #z. > > /sys/src/9/port/master says otherwise. quick! somebody name a letter! Oh well, seriously, what should I use for this thing? ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 20:15:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 20:15:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15273 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 20:15:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15269 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 20:15:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 20:15:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 74EC819BA4; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:15:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 26FAD19BAC; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:15:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BA16419B8A; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:14:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailrelay2.lanl.gov (mailrelay2.lanl.gov [128.165.4.103]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BBA7D19B0A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:14:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay2.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6ABEArk011479 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 05:14:10 -0600 Received: from maxroach.lanl.gov (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6ABE9Uk001010 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 05:14:09 -0600 From: ron minnich To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.35 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 05:14:09 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Tad Hunt wrote: > I thought that Brucee already did the compiler and device work to > make dynamically loadable kernel modules work. pointer? ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 20:43:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 20:43:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15795 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 20:43:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15791 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 20:43:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 20:43:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3F27D19BB8; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:43:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 86D9219BB5; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:43:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 84C3F19B0C; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:42:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 64F6019B0A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:42:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6ABVWnp014457 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:31:37 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h6ABVSQ2014456 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:31:28 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple question Message-ID: <20030710133120.C7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: ; from ron minnich on Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 05:11:48AM -0600 Organization: Proxima Research & Development Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:31:21 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 05:11:48AM -0600, ron minnich wrote: > > On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Russ Cox wrote: > > > /sys/src/9/port/master says otherwise. > > Oh well, seriously, what should I use for this thing? > How about reserving zero to nine (digits) for local application? Or is that not possible? ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 21:02:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 21:02:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 16095 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 21:02:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 16091 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 21:02:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 21:02:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 967BC19BA9; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:02:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 952A419BBF; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:02:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 99FD319BB2; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:01:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BA98319BA9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:01:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31e226ec432d01cbc6a48d980b17d8c0@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple question In-Reply-To: <20030710133120.C7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-xjoqwsnqdhmopgbtxegjyaqiwy" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:03:02 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-xjoqwsnqdhmopgbtxegjyaqiwy Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Good idea, I added the following: α local use β local use Îł local use δ local use ε local use ζ local use η local use θ local use Îą local use Îş local use We won't use those letters in the release. --upas-xjoqwsnqdhmopgbtxegjyaqiwy Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Thu Jul 10 07:45:12 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Thu Jul 10 07:45:09 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0B99F19BB6; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:43:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DC18719B0C; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:43:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 84C3F19B0C; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:42:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 64F6019B0A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:42:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6ABVWnp014457 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:31:37 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h6ABVSQ2014456 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:31:28 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple question Message-ID: <20030710133120.C7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: ; from ron minnich on Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 05:11:48AM -0600 Organization: Proxima Research & Development Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:31:21 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 05:11:48AM -0600, ron minnich wrote: > > On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Russ Cox wrote: > > > /sys/src/9/port/master says otherwise. > > Oh well, seriously, what should I use for this thing? > How about reserving zero to nine (digits) for local application? Or is that not possible? ++L --upas-xjoqwsnqdhmopgbtxegjyaqiwy-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 21:28:43 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 21:28:43 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 16871 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 21:28:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 16867 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 21:28:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 21:28:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3992819A02; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:28:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E436519A19; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:28:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 866EC199CC; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:27:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rapido.vitanuova.com (unknown [62.254.170.97]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A4AEE199D3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:27:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Rstat needs three size fields? From: rog@vitanuova.com In-Reply-To: <003b01c34652$35b19940$b9844051@insultant.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:30:36 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > why is it a "god-awful algorithm"? > because it is [unecessarily] two pass. the alternative is log n passes. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 23:16:51 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 23:16:51 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 18803 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 23:16:40 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 18799 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 23:16:40 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 23:16:40 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 553B519BCA; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:16:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5524E19BD1; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:16:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D525319BC9; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:15:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-08.noos.net [212.198.2.77]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 514C419BBC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:15:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7002121 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jul 2003 14:14:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.77 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 10 Jul 2003 14:14:54 -0000 Message-ID: <00c901c346ed$a15fa7e0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <20030710133120.C7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:14:52 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > How about reserving zero to nine (digits) for local application? any unicode character can be used. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 23:19:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 23:19:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 18839 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 23:19:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 18835 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 23:19:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 23:19:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CBBEB19BC7; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:19:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 12AFB19BD6; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:19:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 715C019BD6; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:18:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailrelay1.lanl.gov (mailrelay1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.101]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6F10719BC7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:18:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay1.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6AEI5DP008179 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:18:05 -0600 Received: from maxroach.lanl.gov (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6AEI5Uk006111 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:18:05 -0600 From: ron minnich To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.35 Subject: [9fans] my question Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:18:04 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) yeah, I know you can use any char you want. I actually had a goal if this thing worked of contributing it back to the tree, hence my question. no big deal. ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 23:20:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 23:20:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 18856 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 23:20:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 18852 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 23:20:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 23:20:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 23FED19BD4; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:20:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 467C219BDC; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:20:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E318A19BD5; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:19:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8CBB319BD3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:19:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6AE90np014688 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:09:06 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h6AE8v47014687 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:08:57 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple question Message-ID: <20030710160854.E7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: <20030710133120.C7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <00c901c346ed$a15fa7e0$b9844051@insultant.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: <00c901c346ed$a15fa7e0$b9844051@insultant.net>; from boyd, rounin on Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 04:14:52PM +0200 Organization: Proxima Research & Development Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:08:54 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 04:14:52PM +0200, boyd, rounin wrote: > > > How about reserving zero to nine (digits) for local application? > > any unicode character can be used. Yes, I'm still trying to figure out how to enter the "cap" device code :-( ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 23:24:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 23:24:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 18907 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 23:24:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 18903 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 23:24:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 23:24:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BD68D19BE1; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:24:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DE4D819BE0; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:24:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A6F3619999; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:23:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B49FF19991 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:22:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4b98d4a6bc053f2a6d06aed8997d50ff@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple question In-Reply-To: <20030710160854.E7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:24:24 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) alt g $ - its a currency symbol From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 23:37:42 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 23:37:42 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 19174 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 23:37:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 19170 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 23:37:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 23:37:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A1FF819BF7; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:37:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B3CFD19BED; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:37:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B2D1019BE9; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:36:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 37712199F4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:36:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6AEPEnp014746 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:25:21 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h6AEPCBJ014745 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:25:12 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple question Message-ID: <20030710162509.F7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: <20030710160854.E7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <4b98d4a6bc053f2a6d06aed8997d50ff@plan9.bell-labs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: <4b98d4a6bc053f2a6d06aed8997d50ff@plan9.bell-labs.com>; from David Presotto on Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 10:24:24AM -0400 Organization: Proxima Research & Development Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:25:10 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 10:24:24AM -0400, David Presotto wrote: > > alt g $ - its a currency symbol I'm an internationalisation philistine (Italian has only 21 letters in its alphabet, I guess I'll never grow out of that mold), but thank you for the useful snippet. Here are a couple of heresies I indulge in: - Capital letters should be part of a different font. - Internationalisation should occur exclusively in the presentation layer (rio?). I guess they are not that outlandish, really. Does anyone have similar suggestions? ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 23:46:41 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 23:46:41 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 19353 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 23:46:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 19349 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 23:46:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 23:46:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7FEA719BEA; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:46:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D607B19BED; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:46:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C569C19BE9; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:45:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3295319BCC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:45:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:46:42 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thu Jul 10 07:17:05 EDT 2003, rminnich@lanl.gov wrote: > On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Tad Hunt wrote: > > > I thought that Brucee already did the compiler and device work to > > make dynamically loadable kernel modules work. > > pointer? > > ron I've been tinkering with this off and on. As I understand it, Brucee put the support in Inferno, but only for the ps2 I think. David Hogan put the support in the Plan 9 compiler/loader and library support for the 386, α, arm, mips and power, but the external interface was a little different from what brucee did. It's not on sources. I'll look and see what I can do, but don't expect anything immediate. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 10 23:57:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 10 23:57:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 19560 invoked by uid 1020); 10 Jul 2003 23:57:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 19556 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 23:57:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 23:57:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4605F19A98; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:57:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6609819BF0; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:57:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BAC0C19A9E; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:56:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rapido.vitanuova.com (unknown [62.254.170.97]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9768219BE4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:56:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <212c59d55eb25badcbc00c9fe4121065@vitanuova.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? From: rog@vitanuova.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:59:34 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I'm hearing the claim that fork is "useless and painful" (from an IBM K42 > guy). > > Maybe it's just me, but I've always liked fork. fork's kinda nice, but can be confusing. plan9 has really moved away from fork for multithreaded programs towards the "spawn" style proccreate. (rfork for other resource attributes is quite different, i think) a day or so ago, i had occasion to write the following code: int mpipe(void) { char buf[BUFSIZE]; int n, p[2]; pipe(p); if(fork() == 0){ if(fork() == 0){ close(p[1]); return p[0]; } close(p[0]); while((n = read(0, buf, sizeof(buf))) > 0) write(p[1], buf, n); exits(nil); } close(p[0]); while((n = read(p[1], buf, sizeof(buf))) > 0) write(1, buf, n); exits(nil); } there's nothing particularly complicated going on and i don't *think* the implementation is particularly obtuse, but i don't find reading that code straightforward. here's a different structure to the same end: int mpipe(void) { int p[2]; pipe(p); spawn copy(0, p[1]); spawn copy(p[1], 1); return p[0]; } void copy(int fd0, int fd1) { char buf[BUFSIZE]; int n; while((n = read(fd0, buf, sizeof(buf))) > 0) write(fd1, buf, n); } ok, i cheated, assuming that C has been given a "spawn" statement similar to Limbo's. nonetheless, i think the structure itself is clearer, and the meaning of the code more transparent - no possibility of accidentally duplicating the *caller* of mpipe... given that forking a process in plan 9, unlike unix, is not synonymous with forking its file descriptors, surely the only real reason to prefer it is that the call fits more nicely into the C syntax; one doesn't have to bypass typechecking in order to pass arguments to a new process. how often does anyone do anything with fork that could not be done at least as easily with spawn? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 00:07:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 00:07:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 19747 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 00:07:37 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 19743 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 00:07:37 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 00:07:37 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 52DE919BE4; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:07:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9C5B819BFB; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:07:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9DC6519BCE; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:06:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-09.noos.net [212.198.2.80]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C4B3F19BE5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:06:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 83532249 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jul 2003 15:06:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.80 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 10 Jul 2003 15:06:07 -0000 Message-ID: <014d01c346f4$c8f26840$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <20030710160854.E7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <4b98d4a6bc053f2a6d06aed8997d50ff@plan9.bell-labs.com> <20030710162509.F7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:06:04 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > - Internationalisation should occur exclusively in the > presentation layer (rio?). i think that's a bad idea. err, internationalisation is hard. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 00:07:51 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 00:07:51 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 19754 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 00:07:50 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 19750 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 00:07:50 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 00:07:50 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EE32A19BCE; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:07:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 422AD19BF1; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:07:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9C4E1199CC; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:06:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rapido.vitanuova.com (unknown [62.254.170.97]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B8CAD19BE5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:06:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <38dad7fdd5255c0e9d345e45ef28dfcb@vitanuova.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple question From: rog@vitanuova.com In-Reply-To: <20030710160854.E7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:09:42 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Yes, I'm still trying to figure out how to enter the "cap" device > code :-( in general, grep c /lib/keyboard will tell you if there's a keyboard shortcut; otherwise: unicode c will give you its hex value (enter with alt-X-digits) and grep hex /lib/unicode might tell you what it's called. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 00:10:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 00:10:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 19784 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 00:10:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 19780 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 00:10:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 00:10:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C035C19C19; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:10:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 866DB19C29; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:10:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 77C5219BE5; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:09:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from edoras.nas.com (edoras.nas.com [206.63.100.8]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BC1F719BF1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:09:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nas.com (unknown [164.116.190.46]) by edoras.nas.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C52FEBDE8 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F0D8198.6000009@nas.com> From: Jack Johnson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030416 Thunderbird/0.1a X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple question References: <20030710160854.E7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <4b98d4a6bc053f2a6d06aed8997d50ff@plan9.bell-labs.com> <20030710162509.F7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> In-Reply-To: <20030710162509.F7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:09:12 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Lucio De Re wrote: > I'm an internationalisation philistine (Italian has only 21 letters in > its alphabet, I guess I'll never grow out of that mold), but thank you > for the useful snippet. So you know I had to look it up: J, K, W, X and Y (for you inglese) > Here are a couple of heresies I indulge in: > > - Capital letters should be part of a different font. Can you explain this a little further? Do you mean that a font should be entirely one case or the other? -J From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 00:47:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 00:47:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20533 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 00:47:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20528 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 00:47:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 00:47:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DB4C119AB7; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:47:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id ACA3419B24; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:47:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 74FD419B05; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:46:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sargazos.escet.urjc.es (sargazos.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.206]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8E4FD19991 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:46:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: paurea@plan9.escet.urjc.es MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [9fans] USB quickcams Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:46:45 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) What models of USB quickcams can I buy which are supported in Linux?. Any suggestions about performance or any details given will be welcome. Gorka ă‚´ă«ă‚« From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 01:33:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 01:33:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21242 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 01:33:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21238 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 01:33:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 01:33:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7AF0019B35; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:33:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 00AE119B6F; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:33:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E1B5219B52; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:32:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 42C4D19A9D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:32:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15088 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:32:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h6AGW4703469 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:32:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307101632.h6AGW4703469@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple question In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:46:42 EDT." From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:32:04 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I've been tinkering with this off and on. As I understand it, Brucee > put the support in Inferno, but only for the ps2 I think. It was running on the froggies as well. - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 01:38:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 01:38:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21318 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 01:38:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21313 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 01:38:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 01:38:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3B06F199BC; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:38:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6977B19B89; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:38:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E17AC19A10; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:37:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-10.noos.net [212.198.2.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 12E49199A3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:37:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 96601785 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jul 2003 16:37:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.81 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 10 Jul 2003 16:37:18 -0000 Message-ID: <019401c34701$85db7f80$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <200307101632.h6AGW4703469@augusta.math.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:37:16 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > It was running on the froggies as well. that's how i remember it. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 01:46:35 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 01:46:35 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21802 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 01:46:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21798 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 01:46:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 01:46:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3E77219B89; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:46:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B171919B8C; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:46:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2354219A9B; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:45:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2848019B5B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:45:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5b68877f993232fb23394caf30309e12@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? In-Reply-To: <212c59d55eb25badcbc00c9fe4121065@vitanuova.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-jrpdqxmobcqupmhypihhqmtytf" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:47:14 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-jrpdqxmobcqupmhypihhqmtytf Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's why we have libthread with its threadcreate/proccreate/procexec. I've been moving stuff over to windows and just kept the libthread interface. It's amazing how awkward win32 makes all of the same. Every process control call turns into a handful of calls, each with a dozen params. --upas-jrpdqxmobcqupmhypihhqmtytf Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Thu Jul 10 10:59:13 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Thu Jul 10 10:59:10 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 196E319A9E; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:57:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 55D2D19BE4; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:57:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BAC0C19A9E; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:56:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rapido.vitanuova.com (unknown [62.254.170.97]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9768219BE4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:56:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <212c59d55eb25badcbc00c9fe4121065@vitanuova.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? From: rog@vitanuova.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:59:34 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I'm hearing the claim that fork is "useless and painful" (from an IBM K42 > guy). > > Maybe it's just me, but I've always liked fork. fork's kinda nice, but can be confusing. plan9 has really moved away from fork for multithreaded programs towards the "spawn" style proccreate. (rfork for other resource attributes is quite different, i think) a day or so ago, i had occasion to write the following code: int mpipe(void) { char buf[BUFSIZE]; int n, p[2]; pipe(p); if(fork() == 0){ if(fork() == 0){ close(p[1]); return p[0]; } close(p[0]); while((n = read(0, buf, sizeof(buf))) > 0) write(p[1], buf, n); exits(nil); } close(p[0]); while((n = read(p[1], buf, sizeof(buf))) > 0) write(1, buf, n); exits(nil); } there's nothing particularly complicated going on and i don't *think* the implementation is particularly obtuse, but i don't find reading that code straightforward. here's a different structure to the same end: int mpipe(void) { int p[2]; pipe(p); spawn copy(0, p[1]); spawn copy(p[1], 1); return p[0]; } void copy(int fd0, int fd1) { char buf[BUFSIZE]; int n; while((n = read(fd0, buf, sizeof(buf))) > 0) write(fd1, buf, n); } ok, i cheated, assuming that C has been given a "spawn" statement similar to Limbo's. nonetheless, i think the structure itself is clearer, and the meaning of the code more transparent - no possibility of accidentally duplicating the *caller* of mpipe... given that forking a process in plan 9, unlike unix, is not synonymous with forking its file descriptors, surely the only real reason to prefer it is that the call fits more nicely into the C syntax; one doesn't have to bypass typechecking in order to pass arguments to a new process. how often does anyone do anything with fork that could not be done at least as easily with spawn? --upas-jrpdqxmobcqupmhypihhqmtytf-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 02:10:35 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 02:10:35 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 22182 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 02:10:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 22178 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 02:10:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 02:10:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8E58419BA0; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:10:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2AB9419B8D; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:10:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2626319B8D; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:09:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from prunelle.tombob.com (82-41-200-130.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [82.41.200.130]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 41B2E19B5B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:09:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: plan9@blueyonder.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] spaces in passwords and factotum secstore file Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:09:41 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi, apologies for the slightly mundane question. What is the right way of telling factotum about a password that contains spaces? Specifically, I would like to put a line like the following into my factotum secstore file: key proto=pass server=some.server service=imap user=me !password= pwd with spaces I have tried escaping the spaces with backslashes, and quoting the password with single and double quotes, but I cannot get it to work. Thanks for any pointers, Robby From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 02:16:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 02:16:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 22348 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 02:16:38 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 22344 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 02:16:38 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 02:16:38 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2B8D919BBF; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:16:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3157719BAD; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:16:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 83265199CC; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:15:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mobydick.int.entrisphere.com (unknown [63.203.52.228]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C472019B8C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:15:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from entrisphere.com ([192.168.168.142]) by mobydick.int.entrisphere.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:15:06 -0700 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple question In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 10 Jul 2003 05:14:09 MDT." From: Tad Hunt Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jul 2003 17:15:06.0585 (UTC) FILETIME=[CF108C90:01C34706] Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:15:06 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message , you said: ;On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Tad Hunt wrote: ; ;> I thought that Brucee already did the compiler and device work to ;> make dynamically loadable kernel modules work. ; ;pointer? Brucee. -Tad From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 02:42:55 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 02:42:55 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 22865 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 02:42:44 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 22861 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 02:42:43 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 02:42:43 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 57C1A19B5B; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:42:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id ECB9119BB4; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:42:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0229E19B6C; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:41:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2168F19A9D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:41:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6AHfJeH010653 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:41:19 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6AHfJWi010649 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:41:19 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] 9load + scsi Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:41:19 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) 9load should be able to recognize a SCSI drive, right? A friend of mine just installed Plan 9 on an old compaq with an ISA AHA 1542 scsi card. 9load prints only fd0 as a boot option (boot from: ).. We are able to bring up a kernel from the floppy, but want to be able to do it straight from the hard drive. possible? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 02:58:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 02:58:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 23098 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 02:58:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 23094 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 02:58:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 02:58:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C520619B25; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:58:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5E59119BBC; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:58:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7495719981; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:57:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.mightycheese.com (mail.mightycheese.com [209.61.186.18]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B65D719B8C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:57:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [216.239.45.4] (HELO stinkhorn.corp.google.com) by mail.mightycheese.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 700036 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:04:49 -0500 Message-ID: <9ea00626b9b796c02f2caf5aba645d0a@mightycheese.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] spaces in passwords and factotum secstore file From: "rob pike, esq." In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:56:18 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) key proto=pass server=some.server service=imap user=me !password=' pwd with spaces' should work fine. there's a space in some of my passwords and i've had no trouble (since early bugs were fixed). -rob From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 03:12:46 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 03:12:46 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 23284 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 03:12:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 23280 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 03:12:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 03:12:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 993C219BC4; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 14:12:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2725B19BBA; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 14:12:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2D2CE19B7F; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 14:11:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8EA2D1999B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 14:11:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple question In-Reply-To: <019401c34701$85db7f80$b9844051@insultant.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 14:13:15 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thu Jul 10 12:40:15 EDT 2003, boyd@insultant.net wrote: > > It was running on the froggies as well. > > that's how i remember it. that may be, but it's not in any source tree i have access to. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 04:15:40 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 04:15:40 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 24417 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 04:15:39 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 24413 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 04:15:39 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 04:15:39 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EF4FC19BBC; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:15:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C613119BAF; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:15:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3BAD919B8D; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:14:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-04.noos.net [212.198.2.73]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5A99619BAC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:13:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26182731 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jul 2003 19:13:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.73 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 10 Jul 2003 19:13:51 -0000 Message-ID: <000e01c34717$64a41280$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 21:13:49 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > that may be, but it's not in any source tree i have access to. yup 'cos he was in 118 (iirc). From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 04:19:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 04:19:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 24527 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 04:19:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 24523 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 04:19:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 04:19:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3072F19BAF; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:19:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9E90C19BC2; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:19:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8D74D19BAD; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:18:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orthanc.ab.ca (orthanc.ab.ca [216.123.230.114]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A2D2519B8D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:18:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orthanc.ab.ca ([192.168.42.253]) by orthanc.ab.ca (8.12.6p2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6AJIVUW046096 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:18:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca) Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Lyndon Nerenberg To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <84150e2849766508075303e166ffc9ed@plan9.bell-labs.com> Message-Id: <4A1AFDDC-B30B-11D7-8B4D-000393D34A62@orthanc.ab.ca> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:18:29 -0600 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_APPLEMAIL version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Wednesday, July 9, 2003, at 10:02 PM, Russ Cox wrote: >> How do you send emails from notebook via Plan 9 server? >> "POP3 before smtp" is a simple solution though not a best one. > > I use exactly that, via ratfs(4) and pop3(8). > I'm surprised no one else mentioned this yet. > Imap4 before smtp also works. There is some invisible barrier out there that apparently stops e-mail client authors from implementing SMTP AUTH (or STARTTLS), but I'll be damned if I can figure out what it is. Given that most modern e-mail clients already support SSL/TLS and SASL for POP and IMAP, what's so difficult about making the SMTP/Submission bits authentication aware? (Seriously. I've been trying to get a straight answer for this out of client authors for years, without success.) --lyndon From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 04:24:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 04:24:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 24621 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 04:24:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 24617 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 04:24:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 04:24:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D65C3199E3; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:24:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BDC8C19B9D; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:24:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3E02919991; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:23:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id ADF40199E1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:23:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp In-Reply-To: <4A1AFDDC-B30B-11D7-8B4D-000393D34A62@orthanc.ab.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:24:55 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) as a client author, I pierced the invisible barrier by letting dan cross write the code and stick it in. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 04:34:47 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 04:34:47 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 24889 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 04:34:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 24885 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 04:34:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 04:34:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B247219BAD; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:34:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 07F1C19BC3; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:34:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BCD7719BAD; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:33:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from garlic.apnic.net (unknown [62.140.53.107]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AFD6B19991 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:33:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from garlic.apnic.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by garlic.apnic.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6AJX765000233 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 05:33:07 +1000 (EST) Received: (from ggm@localhost) by garlic.apnic.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6AJX4kP003709; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 05:33:04 +1000 (EST) From: George Michaelson To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp Message-Id: <20030711053303.2340e439.ggm@apnic.net> In-Reply-To: <4A1AFDDC-B30B-11D7-8B4D-000393D34A62@orthanc.ab.ca> References: <84150e2849766508075303e166ffc9ed@plan9.bell-labs.com> <4A1AFDDC-B30B-11D7-8B4D-000393D34A62@orthanc.ab.ca> Organization: APNIC Pty Ltd X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.0claws84 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-netbsdelf1.6U) X-Fruit-Of-The-Month-Club: persimmon Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 05:33:03 +1000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) probably the same twisted logic which prevented people implementing 'turn please' in the same protocol. oh hang on, that WAS a security risk, wasn't it... I believe it was Charles Forsyth who pointed out to me S(imple) MTP didn't make much sense when the paper printout of the RFC was 1/2 an inch thick. in marketing terms, I suspect embedded sender security would be popular. I use a mailer called 'sylpheed' which is a GUI frontend to MH, and it does STARTTLS in its choices, and does it even if you don't want it, if the upstream SMTP server demands it. So maybe there is some sanity emerging. -George From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 04:37:42 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 04:37:42 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 24937 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 04:37:41 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 24933 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 04:37:41 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 04:37:41 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9D55A19BDA; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:37:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CF22D19BC6; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:37:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5B02519BC2; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:36:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C4E3A19991 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:36:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <6775b5273a21ebea7da9dedd6d520bec@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:38:11 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Seriously, the biggest barrier is the thing noone seems to have, a client certificate. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 04:37:52 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 04:37:52 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 24944 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 04:37:51 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 24940 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 04:37:51 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 04:37:51 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5CACB19BDC; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:37:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1AB0719BA3; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:37:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DE09919BC2; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:36:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx01.netapp.com (mx01.netapp.com [198.95.226.53]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EDD9A19BA3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:36:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frejya.corp.netapp.com (frejya [10.10.20.91]) by mx01.netapp.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/NTAP-1.4) with ESMTP id h6AJagJo028243 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:36:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from place.org (wynne-lap.hq.netapp.com [10.34.18.99]) by frejya.corp.netapp.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/NTAP-1.5) with ESMTP id h6AJafRa014049 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:36:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F0DC049.7030300@place.org> From: Stephen Wynne User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? References: <5b68877f993232fb23394caf30309e12@plan9.bell-labs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:36:41 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) David Presotto wrote: > It's amazing how awkward win32 makes all of the same. Every > process control call turns into a handful of calls, each with > a dozen params. Yes, I'm noticing! On a related note, since I've been looking at how to solve the probelm with console hacking: Lately I've been wanting pseudo terminals because my rshd.exe gives me stdout in line buffered mode, causing un-line-terminated program prompts to only be output after the program exits (if at all). I haven't tried to run anything that reads or writes directly to the console yet, but I trust those kinds of programs are common enough. Where is the joy in computing? Win32 is making me wonder. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 04:46:45 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 04:46:45 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 25193 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 04:46:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 25189 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 04:46:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 04:46:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EEA7119BA5; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:46:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 440AB19BB9; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:46:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2C78D19BC1; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:45:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orthanc.ab.ca (orthanc.ab.ca [216.123.230.114]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 45E3D19991 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:45:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orthanc.ab.ca ([192.168.42.253]) by orthanc.ab.ca (8.12.6p2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6AJixUW046219 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:44:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca) Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Lyndon Nerenberg To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <20030711053303.2340e439.ggm@apnic.net> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:44:58 -0600 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_APPLEMAIL version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 01:33 PM, George Michaelson wrote: > I believe it was Charles Forsyth who pointed out to me S(imple) MTP > didn't make > much sense when the paper printout of the RFC was 1/2 an inch thick. I will forgo *that* discussion today, since I have to get some productive work done. However ... if you've managed to implement that .5 inch document, the incremental work to add AUTH with CRAM-MD5 (and LOGIN under SSL) can't be that bloody difficult. Okay, one e-mail protocols cheap shot: IMAP puts the S in SMTP ;-) --lyndon From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 04:50:35 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 04:50:35 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 25367 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 04:50:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 25363 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 04:50:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 04:50:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2FFFD19BE0; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:50:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 90C5E19BC1; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:50:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 169A019BC1; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:49:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-03.noos.net [212.198.2.72]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 381FF19AEC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:49:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26034178 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jul 2003 19:49:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.72 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 10 Jul 2003 19:49:45 -0000 Message-ID: <006001c3471c$689111e0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <6775b5273a21ebea7da9dedd6d520bec@plan9.bell-labs.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 21:49:43 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) the real problem is that the PKI is totally flawed. it's a sad state of affairs when Notwork Solutions (sic), who are pretty tight with VeriSad (sic), operate with an X.509 certificate that's expired ... time for a rethink, methinks. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 04:52:35 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 04:52:35 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 25636 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 04:52:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 25632 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 04:52:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 04:52:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A8DE819BC1; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:52:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D2EA919BD5; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:52:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0111919BB4; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:51:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orthanc.ab.ca (orthanc.ab.ca [216.123.230.114]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 215FE19AEC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:51:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orthanc.ab.ca ([192.168.42.253]) by orthanc.ab.ca (8.12.6p2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6AJpJUW046236 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:51:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca) Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Lyndon Nerenberg To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <6775b5273a21ebea7da9dedd6d520bec@plan9.bell-labs.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:51:19 -0600 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_APPLEMAIL version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 01:38 PM, David Presotto wrote: > Seriously, the biggest barrier is the thing noone seems to have, > a client certificate. From a practical standpoint, you don't need one. You can use SSL to encrypt the protocol session (without a cert), and use AUTH LOGIN inside of that to authenticate the submitting agent. If you don't need the encrypted link, just AUTH using a non-plaintext SASL mechanism (e.g., CRAM-MD5, DIGEST-MD5). --lyndon From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 04:58:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 04:58:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 25757 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 04:58:38 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 25753 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 04:58:37 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 04:58:37 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C773619B7F; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:58:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BE94119B40; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:58:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D2BB419AC5; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:57:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-04.noos.net [212.198.2.73]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EE4AA199FD for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:57:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26041966 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jul 2003 19:57:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.73 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 10 Jul 2003 19:57:24 -0000 Message-ID: <006601c3471d$7a06de40$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <5b68877f993232fb23394caf30309e12@plan9.bell-labs.com> <3F0DC049.7030300@place.org> Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 21:57:22 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Where is the joy in computing? Win32 is making me wonder. been there, done that. a repeat of SysVile (sic) R3: you could select on a socket or poll on a stream, but they would not interoperate on NT you need to call WaitForMultipleObjects() iirc and that doesn't work on WinShlock (sic) sockets etc, so you have to use a threaded implementation. for extra points, if the NT CreateSocket() call finds that you are _not_ WinShlock (sic) the call fails and returns -6 iirc. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 05:02:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 05:02:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 25821 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 05:02:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 25817 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 05:02:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 05:02:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 53582199A3; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:02:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1DE8B19BAA; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:02:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8623C199E1; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:01:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-11.noos.net [212.198.2.82]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 995B7199FD for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:01:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 106182667 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jul 2003 20:01:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.82 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 10 Jul 2003 20:01:33 -0000 Message-ID: <007001c3471e$0ec21fe0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 22:01:31 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > From a practical standpoint, you don't need one. you do. alice doesn't trust bob and bob doesn't trust alice. if you're gonna do it, do it right, or just forget about it. i am certain that some POP3/SMTP auth combination will just break. in the limited case such a hideous kludge will probably work. in the general case, i think not. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 05:07:52 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 05:07:52 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 25895 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 05:07:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 25891 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 05:07:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 05:07:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E95EB19BC6; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:07:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 350AC19BD1; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:07:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 40147199FD; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:06:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx01.netapp.com (mx01.netapp.com [198.95.226.53]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4590119AC5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:06:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frejya.corp.netapp.com (frejya [10.10.20.91]) by mx01.netapp.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/NTAP-1.4) with ESMTP id h6AK6eJo000367 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from place.org (wynne-lap.hq.netapp.com [10.34.18.99]) by frejya.corp.netapp.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/NTAP-1.5) with ESMTP id h6AK6eRa019300 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F0DC750.9040707@place.org> From: Stephen Wynne User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? References: <5b68877f993232fb23394caf30309e12@plan9.bell-labs.com> <3F0DC049.7030300@place.org> <006601c3471d$7a06de40$b9844051@insultant.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:06:40 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) And I just got a suggestion to use named pipes, presumably because they have a richer set of buffering options. I don't think named pipes help one with the situation where a DOS program does direct console I/O. I think "net use" does that when it prompts you for a password; you get the idea, in any case. My line buffering app is cacls.exe (don't laugh). I don't think I am going to work on this more right now, but if I were, I would try to replace the standard I/O via plain pipes connected to winsock sockets with standard I/O through dedicated but hidden consoles for each connection. I think it's possible. As an aside, UWIN's rshd is just as bad, and Cygwin's is worse. I'm guessing Microsoft's telnetd is fairly brain dead in this respect, as well. boyd, rounin wrote: >>Where is the joy in computing? Win32 is making me wonder. > > > been there, done that. a repeat of SysVile (sic) R3: > > you could select on a socket or poll on a stream, > but they would not interoperate > > on NT you need to call WaitForMultipleObjects() iirc and > that doesn't work on WinShlock (sic) sockets etc, so you > have to use a threaded implementation. > > for extra points, if the NT CreateSocket() call finds that you > are _not_ WinShlock (sic) the call fails and returns -6 iirc. > > From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 05:10:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 05:10:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 25931 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 05:10:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 25927 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 05:10:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 05:10:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9703419BB9; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:10:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0D8A419BCD; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:10:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id AF4EA19B5C; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:09:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wilbur.25thandClement.com (wilbur.25thandclement.com [64.62.167.198]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BA905199E1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:09:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wilbur.25thandClement.com (william@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wilbur.25thandClement.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6AK97j8015903 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from william@localhost) by wilbur.25thandClement.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6AK97Sr030548 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:09:07 -0700 (PDT) From: William Ahern To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp Message-ID: <20030710200907.GA4449@wilbur.25thandClement.com> References: <6775b5273a21ebea7da9dedd6d520bec@plan9.bell-labs.com> <006001c3471c$689111e0$b9844051@insultant.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <006001c3471c$689111e0$b9844051@insultant.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:09:07 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 09:49:43PM +0200, boyd, rounin wrote: > the real problem is that the PKI is totally flawed. > > it's a sad state of affairs when Notwork Solutions (sic), who are > pretty tight with VeriSad (sic), operate with an X.509 certificate > that's expired ... > > time for a rethink, methinks. What is needed is a distributed PKI. If I can ever find this elusive race condition in AnonNet (I hate threads; bad design decision) I would really like to work on AuthNet, using a design in this vein: http://theory.lcs.mit.edu/~cis/cis-threshold.html I'm not an expert in this area by any measure. "A colleague once told me that the world was full of bad security systems designed by people who read 'Applied Cryptography'" -- Bruce Schneier But *somebody* has to fill this gap. Maybe I can scare someone enough to take my place. If anybody has some [debugging] time on their hands, c/o: http://www.authnet.org/anonnet/ - Bill From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 05:17:38 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 05:17:38 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 26020 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 05:17:37 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 26016 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 05:17:37 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 05:17:37 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1A33019AAE; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:17:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6BF2F19B6F; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:17:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 91BC119AC5; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:16:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-12.noos.net [212.198.2.83]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AE957199CC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:16:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25314590 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jul 2003 20:16:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.83 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 10 Jul 2003 20:16:21 -0000 Message-ID: <008f01c34720$1fd6c400$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <5b68877f993232fb23394caf30309e12@plan9.bell-labs.com> <3F0DC049.7030300@place.org> <006601c3471d$7a06de40$b9844051@insultant.net> <3F0DC750.9040707@place.org> Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 22:16:19 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > As an aside, UWIN's rshd is just as bad, and Cygwin's is worse. > I'm guessing Microsoft's telnetd is fairly brain dead in this > respect, as well. yeah, i had to write an rsh client -- arrgh ... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 05:21:43 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 05:21:43 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 26093 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 05:21:43 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 26089 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 05:21:43 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 05:21:43 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9AB7919AC5; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:21:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4C6E6199CC; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:21:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A8B46199CC; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:20:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orthanc.ab.ca (orthanc.ab.ca [216.123.230.114]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B8E5619B40 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:20:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orthanc.ab.ca ([192.168.42.253]) by orthanc.ab.ca (8.12.6p2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6AKKDUW046369 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 14:20:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca) Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Lyndon Nerenberg To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <007001c3471e$0ec21fe0$b9844051@insultant.net> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 14:20:12 -0600 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_APPLEMAIL version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 02:01 PM, boyd, rounin wrote: >> From a practical standpoint, you don't need one. > > you do. alice doesn't trust bob and bob doesn't trust alice. You can put an SSL cert on the server if you really want to verify it's who it claims to be. (Most people don't seem to care.) You don't need one for the client, though, as you're verifying it via SASL. (And some SASL mechanisms can also verify the server side while authenticating the client, as well as performing encryption of the session. You pick the one that matches your requirements.) Again, I'm speaking from a *practical* standpoint, and addressing a *very* narrow problem space. I, too, would like to see a global PKI that actually works. --lyndon From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 06:22:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 06:22:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 26993 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 06:22:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 26989 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 06:22:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 06:22:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4796219B99; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:22:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7340019A90; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:22:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EDAE919A9D; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:21:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from galapagos.cse.psu.edu (galapagos.cse.psu.edu [130.203.12.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 70FFD19A90 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:21:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6080 invoked by uid 991); 10 Jul 2003 21:21:55 -0000 Message-ID: <20030710212155.6079.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp In-reply-to: <20030710200907.GA4449@wilbur.25thandClement.com> References: <6775b5273a21ebea7da9dedd6d520bec@plan9.bell-labs.com> <006001c3471c$689111e0$b9844051@insultant.net> <20030710200907.GA4449@wilbur.25thandClement.com> Comments: In-reply-to William Ahern message dated "Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:09:07 -0700." From: Scott Schwartz Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:21:54 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) | What is needed is a distributed PKI. But why? It seems easy enough to use use private keys, and a nice protocol like SRP. I guess the reason is that you just can't convince people not to give their password away (just type it here in this web page!!), and, worse, can't convince programmers not to ask for it. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 06:51:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 06:51:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27439 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 06:51:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27435 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 06:51:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 06:51:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6A1C919BCD; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:51:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C319B19BB4; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:51:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0179819B8E; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:50:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 47D9219B5C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:50:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA26008 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:50:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h6ALol704789 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:50:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307102150.h6ALol704789@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:21:54 EDT." <20030710212155.6079.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:50:47 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > | What is needed is a distributed PKI. > > But why? It seems easy enough to use use private keys, and a nice > protocol like SRP. Well, the typical reason given is that you end up with this n^2 key distribution problem. PKI (in theory, at least) solves that via signature chains. Shared secret key systems like Kerberos have attempted to solve this with authentication hierarchies, but while e.g. Kerberos has proliferated, the hierarchial authentication component hasn't. I don't understand this talk of `distributed PKI' though; isn't the whole idea of a PKI that it's distributed to begin with? Supposedly we have that; it's just never really worked all that well. It's a shame. Public key cryptography involves some absolutely beautiful mathematics. Too bad people are disgusted with it due to the poor implementations they most frequently encounter. - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 06:57:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 06:57:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27524 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 06:57:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27520 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 06:57:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 06:57:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BE4A419A90; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:57:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A6BA519B6F; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:57:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5D4B019B7E; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:56:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-10.noos.net [212.198.2.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8138E19B5C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:56:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 96662590 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jul 2003 21:56:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.81 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 10 Jul 2003 21:56:06 -0000 Message-ID: <010301c3472e$0e43d4e0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <200307102150.h6ALol704789@augusta.math.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 23:56:02 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > It's a shame. Public key cryptography involves some absolutely > beautiful mathematics. Too bad people are disgusted with it due to the > poor implementations they most frequently encounter. i'm with you, captain. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 07:03:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 07:03:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27590 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 07:03:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27586 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 07:03:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 07:03:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B624319BB7; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:03:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 30BEB19B7E; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:03:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5426819B8C; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:02:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from collyer.net (cpu.collyer.net [63.192.14.226]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1FAE919B6F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:02:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp From: Geoff Collyer In-Reply-To: <20030711053303.2340e439.ggm@apnic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:02:53 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Yeah, SMTP is a misnomer. It makes me wonder how complex MTP was. I think a lot of the complexity is due to typical Internet micromanagement of a baroque syntax. I designed a replacement, the Really Simple Mail Transfer Protocol, and did an implementation or two in Limbo. The spec. is 13 pages, including index, rather than the 68 pages of RFC 821. Lucent has had a patent application in the works for years (4 or 5, I think), so I'm not sure how much I can say about it, except to point interested parties at (this is one line): http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=2&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PG01&s1=collyer.IN.&OS=IN/collyer&RS=IN/collyer The description therein is a legalistic version of a lawyer's understanding of my paper, so it's likely pretty difficult to follow, alas. Of course, as I suggest at the end of the RSMTP paper, protocols like SMTP and RSMTP could be replaced by 9P2000 if it were used more universally. (Mount the recipient's synthetic inbox and write to it. Done.) The last thing the Internet needs is more protocols, but bad ones like SMTP ought to be replaced. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 07:24:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 07:24:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27784 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 07:24:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27779 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 07:24:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 07:24:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EF2D819B0A; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:24:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E285919B6F; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:24:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0FBED19B7E; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:23:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orthanc.ab.ca (orthanc.ab.ca [216.123.230.114]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3747919B0A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:23:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orthanc.ab.ca ([192.168.42.253]) by orthanc.ab.ca (8.12.6p2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6AMNUUW046875 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:23:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca) Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Lyndon Nerenberg To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <21A8881A-B325-11D7-8B4D-000393D34A62@orthanc.ab.ca> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:23:29 -0600 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_APPLEMAIL version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 04:02 PM, Geoff Collyer wrote: > Yeah, SMTP is a misnomer. It makes me wonder how complex MTP was. It was FTP :-P See RFC 221. --lyndon From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 07:40:42 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 07:40:42 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 28058 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 07:40:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 28054 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 07:40:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 07:40:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 19DEF19BCC; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:40:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AB20A19B8C; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:40:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6EB8D19B8C; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:39:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-10.noos.net [212.198.2.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7BD3619B5C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:39:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 96695324 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jul 2003 22:14:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.81 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 10 Jul 2003 22:14:28 -0000 Message-ID: <011d01c34730$9f27e4e0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 00:14:24 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Yeah, SMTP is a misnomer. nah, i think strict SMTP is fine. it's 822 that really screws things up. ESMTP is a debacle and the MINE (sic) field is a disaster. i asked gettys about some of it, 'cos by the end of the 4th MINE (sic) doc [some 150 a4 pages] i was beginning to lose it. like francis ford coppola said about the making of apocalypse now: we had too much money, too much equipment and slowly, but surely we went insane just like the war. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 08:12:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 08:12:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 28507 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 08:12:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 28503 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 08:12:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 08:12:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5AF7019BDF; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:12:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B2EE819BD1; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:12:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 30EF619BD1; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:11:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from collyer.net (collyer.ca [63.192.14.226]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 25F0F19BC5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:11:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <6524aa214605cc00624cb507a53317e9@collyer.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp From: Geoff Collyer In-Reply-To: <011d01c34730$9f27e4e0$b9844051@insultant.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:11:51 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) There are lots of things wrong with strict SMTP, such as the enforced slowness due to its lock-step nature, but perhaps the most egregious is that it enforces a 7-bit channel. I used to think that this was for the sake of long-dead PDP-10s, but it turns out to be for the benefit of (CSnet?) people who wanted to run SMTP over plain old un-error-corrected, un-flow-controlled serial lines without benefit of TCP/IP underneath, and who feared that the high bit might be lost as a parity bit (never mind that whole chunks of the message might be lost due to lack of flow control, or garbled due to lack of error correction). So given that one expects there to be people who can only talk strict 821 SMTP, Content Transfers Encodings become necessary if one wants to send 8-bit data, such as UTF-8. So some of the MIME mess is directly due to the failings of strict SMTP. And that's just a bit of the fall-out from SMTP's failings. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 08:27:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 08:27:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 28711 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 08:27:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 28707 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 08:27:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 08:27:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7270A19BF0; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:27:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7E68E19ADA; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:27:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5DE7719BD1; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:26:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-04.noos.net [212.198.2.73]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 73E7419ADA for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:26:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26234640 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jul 2003 23:26:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.73 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 10 Jul 2003 23:26:37 -0000 Message-ID: <016201c3473a$b2fce7e0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <6524aa214605cc00624cb507a53317e9@collyer.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 01:26:32 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) i thought the whole 7 bit deal was due to the IMP's. the number of times i've gotten into shitfights over: it is a 7 bit transport -- period i had a simpler vision of ESMTP, ages ago; you just say with HELO or something to say 'will you talk 8 bit'? if the answer is 'no way' you return the mail. this way it would track the braindamage and force the 7-bitters to go to 8 bits. no 4 MIME docs, no zillion lines of code. i suggested it to vix, but he wasn't convinced. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 08:40:40 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 08:40:40 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 29028 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 08:40:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 29024 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 08:40:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 08:40:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6C0EB19BB1; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:40:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7BA0A19BC9; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:40:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9221919BD1; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:39:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from collyer.net (collyer.ca [63.192.14.226]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9291019ADA for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:39:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <990cd64b5f8887babd88e9b042b760dd@collyer.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp From: Geoff Collyer In-Reply-To: <016201c3473a$b2fce7e0$b9844051@insultant.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:38:59 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I doubt that the 7-bit channel was due to the IMPs; FTP can use all 8 bits. (IMP stood for Interface Message Processor: Honeywell 516 [my memory says 316, but BBN's history disagrees] minicomputers used as front-ends to hosts to handle the complexity of dealing with the network. Only the IMPs attached directly to the ARPAnet originally.) But the 7-bit stupidity infected protocols inspired by SMTP, such as NNTP (which protocol wasn't even necessary, but that's another story). From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 08:49:40 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 08:49:40 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 29206 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 08:49:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 29202 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 08:49:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 08:49:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CBE8419BC5; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:49:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AF34719A7D; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:49:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7793919BC9; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:48:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-06.noos.net [212.198.2.75]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9A31819ADA for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:48:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7868166 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jul 2003 23:48:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.75 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 10 Jul 2003 23:48:36 -0000 Message-ID: <01a101c3473d$c48a9720$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <990cd64b5f8887babd88e9b042b760dd@collyer.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 01:48:30 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I doubt that the 7-bit channel was due to the IMPs; FTP can use all 8 > bits. yeah, i guess it was 7 bit control and with FTP 8 bit data. but all this is ancient history. we gotta replace all that stuff. although i don't see it happening soon :( hell, they can bearly keep up even with the 'army of programmers'. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 08:51:23 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 08:51:23 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 29262 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 08:51:22 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 29258 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 08:51:22 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 08:51:22 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6243A19BEF; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:51:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1208E19ADA; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:51:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 017A619BDB; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:50:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wmail.atlantic.net (wmail.atlantic.net [209.208.0.84]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 296DD19ADA for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:50:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19234 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 22:47:40 -0000 Received: from cpe-203-51-78-31.nsw.bigpond.net.au (HELO cc77109e) (203.51.78.31) by wmail.atlantic.net with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 22:47:40 -0000 Message-ID: <013901c3473e$100d7e10$c901a8c0@cc77109e> From: "Bruce Ellis" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple question Organization: www.chunder.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 09:47:41 +1000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) 5l on sources is the froggie loader. /usr/inferno/os/port/devdynload.c is the driver ----- Original Message ----- From: To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 4:13 AM Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple question > On Thu Jul 10 12:40:15 EDT 2003, boyd@insultant.net wrote: > > > It was running on the froggies as well. > > > > that's how i remember it. > > that may be, but it's not in any source tree i have access to. > From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 08:56:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 08:56:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 29414 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 08:56:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 29410 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 08:56:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 08:56:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 788AA19A7D; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:56:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id ED17219BDE; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:56:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CADE619BDB; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:55:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E4D0E19A7D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:55:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp In-Reply-To: <01a101c3473d$c48a9720$b9844051@insultant.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-ajjotkmgdhheabiqmhewjyypzz" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:56:43 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-ajjotkmgdhheabiqmhewjyypzz Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, compared to most of the standards out there, I find mime refreshingly simple. It actually solves a problem, albeit with more mechanism than I would like. I don't want to go back to the old days of n different ways to encode cruft into a mail message. I also find it quite easy to present the mime encoding as a pretty simple hierarchical file system. I don't really need anything to replace MIME since the only thing I'ld be getting is a bit more simplicity and little else. If I were to throw stones at anything it would be ASN.1. --upas-ajjotkmgdhheabiqmhewjyypzz Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Thu Jul 10 19:51:04 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Thu Jul 10 19:51:01 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 39DC819BD7; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:49:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 60C6719ADA; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:49:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7793919BC9; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:48:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-06.noos.net [212.198.2.75]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9A31819ADA for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:48:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7868166 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jul 2003 23:48:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.75 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 10 Jul 2003 23:48:36 -0000 Message-ID: <01a101c3473d$c48a9720$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <990cd64b5f8887babd88e9b042b760dd@collyer.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 01:48:30 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I doubt that the 7-bit channel was due to the IMPs; FTP can use all 8 > bits. yeah, i guess it was 7 bit control and with FTP 8 bit data. but all this is ancient history. we gotta replace all that stuff. although i don't see it happening soon :( hell, they can bearly keep up even with the 'army of programmers'. --upas-ajjotkmgdhheabiqmhewjyypzz-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 09:02:59 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 09:02:59 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 29629 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 09:02:56 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 29615 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 09:02:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 09:02:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D6EA619C1A; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:02:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 93DC319BDE; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:02:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 28E9519BF2; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:01:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 371D319BDB for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:01:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <967768cb40aa71d536446da30109cc15@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp In-Reply-To: <200307102150.h6ALol704789@augusta.math.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-ivjrpwtxifxnulrtqpyvtllpia" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:02:58 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-ivjrpwtxifxnulrtqpyvtllpia Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The x.509 PKI is distributed. The only problem with it is that noone takes responsibility for anything. I'ld be happy to believe a CA about a cert it signs if the cert itself didn't contain a scree about how the CA absolves itself of all responsibility. Also, the revocation problem has also never been well handled. There are revocation servers out there but they tend to be overloaded and often unavailable. Shorter term keys would help accept then one of the big advantages of having a CA would disappear, i.e., that you wouldn't have to talk to it very often. With revocation lists and/or short lived keys, shared keys don't look so bad anymore. The result is that the one org willing to take financial responsibility, i.e. Microsoft, can get away with something as crufty as Passport. --upas-ivjrpwtxifxnulrtqpyvtllpia Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Thu Jul 10 17:53:04 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Thu Jul 10 17:53:02 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3A07919BC3; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:51:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5779B19B8E; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:51:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0179819B8E; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:50:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 47D9219B5C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:50:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA26008 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:50:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h6ALol704789 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:50:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307102150.h6ALol704789@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:21:54 EDT." <20030710212155.6079.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:50:47 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > | What is needed is a distributed PKI. > > But why? It seems easy enough to use use private keys, and a nice > protocol like SRP. Well, the typical reason given is that you end up with this n^2 key distribution problem. PKI (in theory, at least) solves that via signature chains. Shared secret key systems like Kerberos have attempted to solve this with authentication hierarchies, but while e.g. Kerberos has proliferated, the hierarchial authentication component hasn't. I don't understand this talk of `distributed PKI' though; isn't the whole idea of a PKI that it's distributed to begin with? Supposedly we have that; it's just never really worked all that well. It's a shame. Public key cryptography involves some absolutely beautiful mathematics. Too bad people are disgusted with it due to the poor implementations they most frequently encounter. - Dan C. --upas-ivjrpwtxifxnulrtqpyvtllpia-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 09:04:23 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 09:04:23 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 29677 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 09:04:22 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 29673 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 09:04:22 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 09:04:22 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 53F1419BF8; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:04:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D01A719BF2; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:04:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E5C5B19BF8; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:03:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-12.noos.net [212.198.2.83]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1C57A19BDE for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:03:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25301081 invoked by uid 0); 11 Jul 2003 00:03:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.83 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 11 Jul 2003 00:03:51 -0000 Message-ID: <01d901c3473f$e61edd40$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 02:03:46 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > If I were to throw stones at anything it would be ASN.1. yes that thing is truly frightening. could it be _more_ complex? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 09:05:23 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 09:05:23 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 29707 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 09:05:22 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 29703 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 09:05:22 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 09:05:22 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D77D019C2C; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:05:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6B35219BDE; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:05:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 05C1A19C29; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:04:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 019CA19C0E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:04:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <85139cb0363c3b2b1f14746d68b9ff59@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? In-Reply-To: <006601c3471d$7a06de40$b9844051@insultant.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-kiikoralsifnuuyhdrwjglnwlv" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:05:53 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-kiikoralsifnuuyhdrwjglnwlv Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not to mention the fact that you have to send/receive on sockets and read/write on everything else so that an app has to check the type of any handles it is passed so that it can use the right calls. --upas-kiikoralsifnuuyhdrwjglnwlv Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Thu Jul 10 16:00:06 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Thu Jul 10 16:00:04 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1EC6D199E1; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:58:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0A67519A04; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:58:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D2BB419AC5; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:57:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-04.noos.net [212.198.2.73]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EE4AA199FD for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:57:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26041966 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jul 2003 19:57:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.73 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 10 Jul 2003 19:57:24 -0000 Message-ID: <006601c3471d$7a06de40$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <5b68877f993232fb23394caf30309e12@plan9.bell-labs.com> <3F0DC049.7030300@place.org> Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 21:57:22 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Where is the joy in computing? Win32 is making me wonder. been there, done that. a repeat of SysVile (sic) R3: you could select on a socket or poll on a stream, but they would not interoperate on NT you need to call WaitForMultipleObjects() iirc and that doesn't work on WinShlock (sic) sockets etc, so you have to use a threaded implementation. for extra points, if the NT CreateSocket() call finds that you are _not_ WinShlock (sic) the call fails and returns -6 iirc. --upas-kiikoralsifnuuyhdrwjglnwlv-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 09:10:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 09:10:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 29870 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 09:10:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 29866 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 09:10:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 09:10:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 64C8719C08; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:10:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 543C119BD5; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:10:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 68DB519BDE; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:09:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-02.noos.net [212.198.2.71]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 868F119ADA for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:09:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17655117 invoked by uid 0); 11 Jul 2003 00:09:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.71 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 11 Jul 2003 00:09:20 -0000 Message-ID: <01ed01c34740$aa416f80$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <967768cb40aa71d536446da30109cc15@plan9.bell-labs.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 02:09:15 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) at some point when the bank [french] were talking about doing X.509 stuff and random things with their clients i suggested they stuck the certs on a chip/smart card (the things being rampant in france since a govt decree in 1991) and jamming it into a reader. when it dies it's dead and then you use some other channel to renew it. it's quasi private key, but not quite. RSA is a good idea. another guy i sort of worked with told me back in '98 that you could get quasi decent DES out of a chip card and RSA wasn't that far off. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 09:22:42 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 09:22:42 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 30460 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 09:22:40 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 30452 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 09:22:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 09:22:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D227019C2E; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:22:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E9F0719C1C; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:22:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3E42219BE5; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:21:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 600AB19ADA for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:21:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <04adc5d4539eb45ef7c2348b79782a92@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp In-Reply-To: <01ed01c34740$aa416f80$b9844051@insultant.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-teyfhvnxfxoqbamystrmkxmxxa" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:23:15 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-teyfhvnxfxoqbamystrmkxmxxa Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Atmel makes a reasonable chip and its also available in card form. --upas-teyfhvnxfxoqbamystrmkxmxxa Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Thu Jul 10 20:12:01 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Thu Jul 10 20:11:58 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D311919BDE; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:10:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8681919ADA; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:10:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 68DB519BDE; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:09:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-02.noos.net [212.198.2.71]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 868F119ADA for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:09:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17655117 invoked by uid 0); 11 Jul 2003 00:09:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.71 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 11 Jul 2003 00:09:20 -0000 Message-ID: <01ed01c34740$aa416f80$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <967768cb40aa71d536446da30109cc15@plan9.bell-labs.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 02:09:15 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) at some point when the bank [french] were talking about doing X.509 stuff and random things with their clients i suggested they stuck the certs on a chip/smart card (the things being rampant in france since a govt decree in 1991) and jamming it into a reader. when it dies it's dead and then you use some other channel to renew it. it's quasi private key, but not quite. RSA is a good idea. another guy i sort of worked with told me back in '98 that you could get quasi decent DES out of a chip card and RSA wasn't that far off. --upas-teyfhvnxfxoqbamystrmkxmxxa-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 10:42:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 10:42:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 1576 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 10:42:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 1572 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 10:42:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 10:42:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B93E019C1C; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 21:42:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AFCB719BED; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 21:42:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B68CE19BF2; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 21:42:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-04.noos.net [212.198.2.73]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DD94D19BDB for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 21:41:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26305710 invoked by uid 0); 11 Jul 2003 01:41:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.73 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 11 Jul 2003 01:41:58 -0000 Message-ID: <02d501c3474d$9a255e60$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <20030709033343.85503.qmail@web40402.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] The new ridiculous license MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 03:41:51 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Forking a project is in my opinion hugely important, s/or/uc/ w q From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 11:03:24 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 11:03:24 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 2649 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 11:03:23 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 2645 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 11:03:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 11:03:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 623F019C32; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 22:03:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A20E419B4F; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 22:03:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2CE0119B4F; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 22:02:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.monitorbm.co.nz (mail.monitorbm.co.nz [203.167.201.38]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 4A5AC19BC9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 22:02:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24957 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 02:02:12 -0000 Received: from mercury.mbmnz.co.nz (HELO MERCURY) (192.168.0.63) by mail.monitorbm.co.nz with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 02:02:12 -0000 Message-ID: <002801c34750$47015010$3f00a8c0@MERCURY> From: "Andrew Simmons" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 14:01:00 +1200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_NJABL,X_NJABL_OPEN_PROXY version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >Not to mention the fact that you have to send/receive on sockets >and read/write on everything else so that an app has to check >the type of any handles it is passed so that it can use the >right calls. Actually, under Winsock2 you can use ReadFile/WriteFile with sockets as well as file handles. You can also use WaitForMultipleObjects, not on the socket handle itself, but on an event object which is triggered when eg there is data available for reading. Admittedly you'd never know this from the documentation, which says you have to use WSAWaitForMultipleEvents, and use WSAEvents rather than regular Windows events. The main problem I have with Windows is not the bazillion parameters for each function call, which you soon learn to ignore, but the fact that it seems to consist of a random collection of constantly changing APIs designed, if that's the right word, by different groups of people who never talked to each other about things such as a uniform method for reporting errors. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 11:16:27 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 11:16:27 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 3246 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 11:16:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 3241 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 11:16:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 11:16:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B426219C3C; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 22:16:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6B73719BDB; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 22:16:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9B74319BE7; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 22:15:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1522519BDB for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 22:15:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <813ab0b228dabb66d7a5c1985d8952bb@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? In-Reply-To: <002801c34750$47015010$3f00a8c0@MERCURY> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 22:17:05 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I just tried a ReadFile on a socket on my NT system and it failed miserably. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 11:30:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 11:30:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 3930 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 11:30:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 3925 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 11:30:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 11:30:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CA3B719C51; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 22:30:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 59A2519BC9; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 22:30:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5BEC319C2B; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 22:29:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-12.noos.net [212.198.2.83]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6251519BC9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 22:29:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25450804 invoked by uid 0); 11 Jul 2003 02:29:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.83 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 11 Jul 2003 02:29:34 -0000 Message-ID: <000501c34754$434f47c0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <813ab0b228dabb66d7a5c1985d8952bb@plan9.bell-labs.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 04:29:32 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I just tried a ReadFile on a socket on my NT system and it > failed miserably. absolutely. you have to cut the code into one chunk that deals with 'files' and another that deals with 'sockets' and that means threads. jesus, these fools don't even have SIGINT. it truly is ghastly. it's windows 3 with dave cutler's footprints over everything. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 11:33:27 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 11:33:27 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 4071 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 11:33:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 4067 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 11:33:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 11:33:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0E70B19C63; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 22:33:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C1AB919C43; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 22:33:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CCC6819C53; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 22:32:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-05.noos.net [212.198.2.74]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9B0CF19C4A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 22:32:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7614358 invoked by uid 0); 11 Jul 2003 02:32:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.74 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 11 Jul 2003 02:32:15 -0000 Message-ID: <000b01c34754$a3014420$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <002801c34750$47015010$3f00a8c0@MERCURY> Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 04:32:13 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Actually, under Winsock2 you should cut up, not across. if you want to slash your wrists correctly. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 13:49:50 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 13:49:50 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10112 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 13:49:40 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10106 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 13:49:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 13:49:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E351619C7B; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 00:49:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D59D0199F2; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 00:49:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1C45F19C7A; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 00:48:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.monitorbm.co.nz (mx2.monitorbm.co.nz [203.167.201.38]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id D72F619C76 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 00:48:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27328 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 04:48:09 -0000 Received: from mercury.mbmnz.co.nz (HELO MERCURY) (192.168.0.63) by mail.monitorbm.co.nz with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 04:48:09 -0000 Message-ID: <006501c34767$758415a0$3f00a8c0@MERCURY> From: "Andrew Simmons" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:46:57 +1200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,RCVD_IN_NJABL,X_NJABL_OPEN_PROXY version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > jesus, these fools don't even have SIGINT.Look, we don't want SIGINT, okay??? At least, I'm sure we wouldn't if we knew what it was. Now leave me alone while I attempt to follow your wrist-slashing instructions. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 13:54:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 13:54:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10337 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 13:54:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10333 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 13:54:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 13:54:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 773D219B05; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 00:54:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id ACD8219C80; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 00:54:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9415C19ACB; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 00:53:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 86F1519C86 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 00:52:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6B4flnp017314 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 06:41:48 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h6B4flRu017313 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 06:41:47 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple question Message-ID: <20030711064145.G7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: <20030710160854.E7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <4b98d4a6bc053f2a6d06aed8997d50ff@plan9.bell-labs.com> <20030710162509.F7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <3F0D8198.6000009@nas.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: <3F0D8198.6000009@nas.com>; from Jack Johnson on Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 08:09:12AM -0700 Organization: Proxima Research & Development Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 06:41:46 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 08:09:12AM -0700, Jack Johnson wrote: > > So you know I had to look it up: > > J, K, W, X and Y (for you inglese) > Yep. And never thought it weird :-) > > Here are a couple of heresies I indulge in: > > > > - Capital letters should be part of a different font. > > Can you explain this a little further? Do you mean that a font should > be entirely one case or the other? > Not really, now that you make me think about it. SOme fonts have more characters than others. The uppercase font would have only 26 letters in it (for the English alphabet) while the lower case font would have 26 fewer. May seem a little odd, but is it? Of course, all the accents and other qualifiers would have corresponding entries in each font, once you go that route. Composition as in APL may be another approach, but it strikes me as too hard to manage (doesn't really scale?). I confess it is just a foible of mine, but I'm curious to see how it strikes others. ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 14:15:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 14:15:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11418 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 14:15:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11412 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 14:15:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 14:15:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D3CF919C86; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 01:15:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3FFDF19C88; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 01:15:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BC84119C88; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 01:14:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-11.noos.net [212.198.2.82]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E1A6919BF5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 01:14:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 106154456 invoked by uid 0); 11 Jul 2003 05:14:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.82 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 11 Jul 2003 05:14:28 -0000 Message-ID: <00b501c3476b$4c2b8860$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <006501c34767$758415a0$3f00a8c0@MERCURY> Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 07:14:25 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Look, we don't want SIGINT, okay??? yes you do. SIGINT kills the proc. on windows the 'process' is asked to 'call it quits' and that doesn't really work, especially when the 'process' in in a hung state and is less than cooperative. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 14:21:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 14:21:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11671 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 14:21:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11651 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 14:21:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 14:21:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 613F719CA5; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 01:21:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 122CD19C96; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 01:21:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CF46919C92; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 01:20:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp809.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp809.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.188]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id E487319C88 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 01:20:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from adsl-67-38-31-8.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (HELO ameritech.net) (dbailey27@ameritech.net@67.38.31.8 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 05:20:56 -0000 Message-ID: <3F0E576B.8060602@ameritech.net> From: northern snowfall User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020518 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? References: <006501c34767$758415a0$3f00a8c0@MERCURY> <00b501c3476b$4c2b8860$b9844051@insultant.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 01:21:31 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA, X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > >>Look, we don't want SIGINT, okay??? >> > >yes you do. SIGINT kills the proc. > Forget SIGINT. Semantics say that can be caught, and a hung process catching on Win isn't likely to yeild any different results. SIGKILL enforcement sounds nicer to me :/ Don http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 14:44:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 14:44:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12844 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 14:44:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12835 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 14:44:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 14:44:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5F39419C9F; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 01:44:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7443719C80; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 01:44:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9FDBC19C6A; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 01:43:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-08.noos.net [212.198.2.77]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BE9A119C20 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 01:43:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7416145 invoked by uid 0); 11 Jul 2003 05:43:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.77 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 11 Jul 2003 05:43:44 -0000 Message-ID: <00d101c3476f$63094640$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <006501c34767$758415a0$3f00a8c0@MERCURY> <00b501c3476b$4c2b8860$b9844051@insultant.net> <3F0E576B.8060602@ameritech.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 07:43:41 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > SIGKILL enforcement sounds nicer to me :/ yup, but being able to hit DEL and the proc (in general) gets blown away without any nonsense about: well that there varmit of a proc is a might contrary and would ya like to blow its head ... clean off or take a sip of JD while it decides if it's gonna to get the hell out of dodge, y'all? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 15:04:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 15:04:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13803 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 15:04:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13791 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 15:04:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 15:04:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8BEE919CAC; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 02:04:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0743019CA2; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 02:04:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C67D319CA4; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 02:03:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-09.noos.net [212.198.2.80]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E422519CA0 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 02:03:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 84033362 invoked by uid 0); 11 Jul 2003 06:03:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.80 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 11 Jul 2003 06:03:23 -0000 Message-ID: <00f601c34772$215ea340$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <20030710160854.E7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <4b98d4a6bc053f2a6d06aed8997d50ff@plan9.bell-labs.com> <20030710162509.F7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <3F0D8198.6000009@nas.com> <20030711064145.G7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 08:03:20 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) well if unicode was organised so that each language had its own code space it would be a trivial problem. look at latin 1 (for want of a better term): it covers a whole bunch of languages, with different collation sequences and many of the glyphs are not actually _real letters_. é tells me how to pronounce it (as far as i'm concerned), but it's not really a character (ô is probably a better example). ö is a real character in swedish: en öl = a beer. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 15:23:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 15:23:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 14768 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 15:23:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 14764 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 15:23:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 15:23:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 57D6C19CB8; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 02:23:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 70F7719CA6; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 02:23:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9827419CAF; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 02:22:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5C81A19C9B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 02:22:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6B6BInp017463 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 08:11:21 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h6B6BH3I017462 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 08:11:17 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple question Message-ID: <20030711081111.H7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: <20030710160854.E7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <4b98d4a6bc053f2a6d06aed8997d50ff@plan9.bell-labs.com> <20030710162509.F7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <3F0D8198.6000009@nas.com> <20030711064145.G7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <00f601c34772$215ea340$b9844051@insultant.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: <00f601c34772$215ea340$b9844051@insultant.net>; from boyd, rounin on Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 08:03:20AM +0200 Organization: Proxima Research & Development Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 08:11:13 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 08:03:20AM +0200, boyd, rounin wrote: > > well if unicode was organised so that each language had its own > code space it would be a trivial problem. > Well, I'm assuming a total rewrite of the alphabets anyway. Although ideograms really don't fit in the same representation space. > look at latin 1 (for want of a better term): it covers a whole bunch > of languages, with different collation sequences and many of the > glyphs are not actually _real letters_. > Yes, that's where composition came into the picture. But that needs to be clever, with character scaling to make room for accents becoming more than a trivial nuisance. Technically, it doesn't matter what a symbol stands for, as much as it needs to be _presented_ in an unambiguous, clear fashion. Whether it's a pronunciation issue or a distinct character (is the final letter in "papa" and "papŕ" a pronunciation aid or a different character in the sense of differentiating words with different meanings?) is not important to its internal or external repreentation. But I do get your point that overlaps of alphabets for different languages does add complexity. Maybe there is enough scope in UTF-8 or Unicode to allow many-to one internal to external mappings. The existence of a phonetic alphabet is a different issue, too vast to address here (without composition capabilities, specially). Suffice to say even in Plan 9 there are fonts that do not have all the useful glyphs in them, so whereas UTF-8 is a great abstraction for internal purposes, there should be a more definite standard about externalising it. ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 16:00:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 16:00:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 16567 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 16:00:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 16563 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 16:00:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 16:00:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4DD4B19CB5; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 03:00:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 21C0619C98; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 03:00:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 77ED419C98; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 02:59:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-09.noos.net [212.198.2.80]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7622D19BF1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 02:59:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 84088367 invoked by uid 0); 11 Jul 2003 06:59:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.80 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 11 Jul 2003 06:59:45 -0000 Message-ID: <012a01c3477a$018ce920$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <20030710160854.E7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <4b98d4a6bc053f2a6d06aed8997d50ff@plan9.bell-labs.com> <20030710162509.F7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <3F0D8198.6000009@nas.com> <20030711064145.G7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <00f601c34772$215ea340$b9844051@insultant.net> <20030711081111.H7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 08:59:43 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Yes, that's where composition came into the picture. But that > needs to be clever, with character scaling to make room for accents > becoming more than a trivial nuisance. Technically, it doesn't > matter what a symbol stands for, as much as it needs to be _presented_ > in an unambiguous, clear fashion. yes that is not a problem. > Whether it's a pronunciation issue or a distinct character (is the > final letter in "papa" and "papŕ" a pronunciation aid or a different > character in the sense of differentiating words with different > meanings?) is not important to its internal or external repreentation. but it's a big problem when you come to write sort(1). > But I do get your point that overlaps of alphabets for different > languages does add complexity. Maybe there is enough scope in > UTF-8 or Unicode to allow many-to one internal to external mappings. it really is a nasty problem. python [makes a crucifix sign] lets you add codecs and all sorts of horrible crap. > The existence of a phonetic alphabet is a different issue, too vast > to address here (without composition capabilities, specially). phonetic alphabets are easy. well japanese would be perfect if they had stuck with the kana, but the kanji really messes things up. i think the wost character has 17 readings and that can ruin your whole day. just my rounin tattoo: http://www.insultant.net/images/rounin.jpg has three readings and a 4th in chinese. > Suffice to say even in Plan 9 there are fonts that do not have all > the useful glyphs in them, so whereas UTF-8 is a great abstraction > for internal purposes, there should be a more definite standard > about externalising it. well maybe. i'd be happier if i could chose my keyboard layout as part of the install. much as i hate lunix, the redhat install was pretty impressive, but that's the 'army or programmers' tar pit. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 16:13:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 16:13:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 17385 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 16:13:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 17380 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 16:13:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 16:13:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EC91A19CBC; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 03:13:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 36B1B19C77; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 03:13:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7039D19C8A; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 03:12:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp808.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp808.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.187]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 880BE19C53 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 03:12:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from adsl-67-38-31-8.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (HELO ameritech.net) (dbailey27@ameritech.net@67.38.31.8 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 07:12:33 -0000 Message-ID: <3F0E719A.2050307@ameritech.net> From: northern snowfall User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020518 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple question References: <20030710160854.E7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <4b98d4a6bc053f2a6d06aed8997d50ff@plan9.bell-labs.com> <20030710162509.F7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <3F0D8198.6000009@nas.com> <20030711064145.G7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <00f601c34772$215ea340$b9844051@insultant.net> <20030711081111.H7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <012a01c3477a$018ce920$b9844051@insultant.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 03:13:14 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA, X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > >much as i hate lunix, the redhat install was pretty impressive, >but that's the 'army or programmers' tar pit. > I prefer the Army of Me. Don http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_ > From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 17:28:40 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 17:28:40 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21162 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 17:28:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21157 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 17:28:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 17:28:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A2BFD19CCC; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 04:28:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D744E19C9B; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 04:28:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E73A719C50; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 04:27:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mgw-x4.nokia.com (mgw-x4.nokia.com [131.228.20.27]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8771519C50 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 04:27:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from esvir03nok.nokia.com (esvir03nokt.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.143.35]) by mgw-x4.nokia.com (Switch-2.2.6/Switch-2.2.6) with ESMTP id h6B8Rlk18100 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:27:48 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from esebh001.NOE.Nokia.com (unverified) by esvir03nok.nokia.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.5) with ESMTP id for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:27:47 +0300 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([172.27.161.71]) by esebh001.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6139); Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:27:47 +0300 Received: (from soenderg@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h6B8RKY10164 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:27:20 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: soenderg set sender to anders.soendergaard@nokia.com using -f From: Anders Soendergaard To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Nokia Message-Id: <1057912039.10046.16.camel@coffin01> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.4 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jul 2003 08:27:47.0604 (UTC) FILETIME=[4F2CED40:01C34786] Subject: [9fans] Archiving appliance Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: 11 Jul 2003 10:27:20 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_XIMIAN,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi Plan 9 folks. I'm involved in a project that is to produce archiving services to our company. Besides policies and procedures we need a box with a lot of disks. I thought it would be fun to see if it was possible to use Venti/Fossil for that purpose. My wet dream is to make some sort of Plan 9 archiving appliance that you would dump your data on from our NetApp's. We would then have several of those appliances on different sites that replicated their local content to the others. The first obstacle is to get the data from the NetApps to the Venti/Fossil server. This might be through a gateway of some sort. Has anybody tried something like that? Or is it a waste of time to try this approach? Best regards, -- /Anders From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 17:53:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 17:53:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 22151 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 17:53:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 22146 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 17:53:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 17:53:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6399C19C29; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 04:53:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8A57219CCF; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 04:53:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D269F19CD2; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 04:52:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 080D519C29 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 04:52:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19atdj-00011I-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 09:52:27 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: bs Message-ID: <3F0E0953.2050907@nospam.com> Organization: Comcast Online Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20030710200907.GA4449@wilbur.25thandClement.com>, <20030710212155.6079.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: none!bs@uunet.uu.net List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 08:52:13 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Scott Schwartz wrote: > | What is needed is a distributed PKI. > > But why? It seems easy enough to use use private keys, and a nice > protocol like SRP. > I think SRP or any other Zero Knowledge Proof system is the way to go. Users can still enter passwords, as they used to, and crackers will find very little to crack. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 18:08:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 18:08:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 22669 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 18:08:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 22665 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 18:08:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 18:08:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8B0AF19C7A; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 05:08:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 99A3E19C7A; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 05:08:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3665219CB2; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 05:07:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 593BA19C77 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 05:07:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19ateH-00012d-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 09:53:01 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: "Douglas A. Gwyn" Message-ID: <3F0E76CA.8010207@null.net> Organization: University of Bath Computing Services, UK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <006501c34767$758415a0$3f00a8c0@MERCURY>, <00b501c3476b$4c2b8860$b9844051@insultant.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 08:52:35 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) boyd, rounin wrote: >>Look, we don't want SIGINT, okay??? > yes you do. SIGINT kills the proc. on windows the 'process' is asked to > 'call it quits' and that doesn't really work, especially when the 'process' in > in a hung state and is less than cooperative. Actually SIGINT is a signal that can be caught or ignored by the process, leading to a hang under some conditions. SIGKILL can't be caught or ignored. The recommended procedure for terminating a process forcefully is first send it a SIGHUP, then a SIGTERM, then a SIGKILL. That gives it a chance to clean up properly but if the process isn't cooperative then it is killed eventually. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 18:19:27 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 18:19:27 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 22968 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 18:19:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 22964 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 18:19:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 18:19:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B397A19CC7; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 05:19:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3B17119BD8; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 05:19:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0A6DF19C0E; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 05:18:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-11.noos.net [212.198.2.82]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 30F3E19BD8 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 05:18:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 106388027 invoked by uid 0); 11 Jul 2003 09:18:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.82 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 11 Jul 2003 09:18:06 -0000 Message-ID: <01bd01c3478d$54e720a0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <3F0E0953.2050907@nospam.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:18:03 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > ... Zero Knowledge Proof system is the way to go. yeah, that sounds quite viable. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 18:24:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 18:24:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 23133 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 18:24:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 23129 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 18:24:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 18:24:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A762119CCF; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 05:24:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5521019C98; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 05:24:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3A09B19C53; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 05:23:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from larch (unknown [195.173.15.12]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2387B19C0E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 05:23:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: steve.simon@snellwilcox.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-anvlxdwrzfzbzztaxwzqspxyxl" Subject: [9fans] win32 listen1 + Named pipes + rshd Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:23:44 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-anvlxdwrzfzbzztaxwzqspxyxl Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I wrote a listen1.c and a toy rxd.c as native windows apps. The code seems OK to me but others my cringe at my implementation, I have no need nor wish to properly learn the win32 api - your mileage may vary. I use it to run crosscompilers and u9fs on a WinNT system. I planed to add build p9any authentication into the rxd, though the plan9 cpu protocol fits my needs better, propogation of signals and remote execution in the same directory. If I can work out how to get Win32 to do TLS I might have a go at that too somtime. -Steve --upas-anvlxdwrzfzbzztaxwzqspxyxl Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=listen1.c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit /* listen1.c - network listener */ #include #include #include #include #include #include #define MAX_MSG 8200 /* buffer size */ typedef struct { int skt; HANDLE rd; HANDLE wr; HANDLE event; } session; char *argv0; char *Program; int Debug = 0; int main(int argc, char *argv[]); unsigned long parseip(char *to, char *from); char *ipaddr(unsigned long ip); void work(void *p); HANDLE child(HANDLE std_in, HANDLE std_out); unsigned int __stdcall thr_read(void *vp); unsigned int __stdcall thr_write(void *vp); int errmsg(char *s, ...); int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { char *p, *q, to[4]; char buf[2048]; int on, n, port, fd, nfd; struct servent *serv; struct sockaddr_in addr, peer; struct hostent *hp; WSADATA wsadata; argv0 = argv[0]; if (WSAStartup(MAKEWORD(1, 1), &wsadata) != 0){ errmsg("WSAStartup failed\n"); return(0); } if (strcmp(argv[1], "-d") == 0){ Debug = 1; argc--; argv++; } if (argc < 3){ fprintf(stderr, "usage: %s [-v] tcp!ipaddr!port prog.exe\n", argv0); goto sysfatal; } Program = argv[2]; strcpy(buf, argv[1]); p = strchr(buf, '!'); if(p == 0){ fprintf(stderr, "bad address syntax\n"); goto sysfatal; } q = strchr(p+1, '!'); if(q == 0){ fprintf(stderr, "bad address syntax\n"); goto sysfatal; } *p++ = 0; *q++ = 0; if ((fd = socket(PF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, 0)) == -1){ errmsg("socket failed"); goto sysfatal; } memset(&addr, 0, sizeof(addr)); addr.sin_family = AF_INET; if ((serv = getservbyname(q, buf)) != NULL) addr.sin_port = serv->s_port; else if (strcmp(buf, "tcp") == 0 && (port = atoi(q)) != 0) addr.sin_port = htons(port); else { errmsg("bad port", argv[1]); goto sysfatal; } if (strcmp(p, "*") == 0) addr.sin_addr.s_addr = INADDR_ANY; else addr.sin_addr.s_addr = htonl(parseip(to, p)); if (bind(fd, (struct sockaddr *)&addr, sizeof(addr)) == -1){ errmsg("bind failed"); goto sysfatal; } if (listen(fd, SOMAXCONN) == -1){ errmsg("listen failed"); goto sysfatal; } while (1){ n = sizeof(peer); if ((nfd = accept(fd, (struct sockaddr *)&peer, &n)) == -1){ errmsg("accept failed"); goto sysfatal; } if ((hp = gethostbyaddr((char *)&peer.sin_addr, n, peer.sin_family)) != NULL) SetEnvironmentVariable("REMOTEHOST", hp->h_name); else SetEnvironmentVariable("REMOTEHOST", ipaddr(ntohl(peer.sin_addr.s_addr))); on = 1; if (setsockopt(nfd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_KEEPALIVE, (char*)&on, sizeof(on)) != 0) errmsg("setsockopt keepalive failed"); on = 1; if (setsockopt(nfd, IPPROTO_TCP, TCP_NODELAY, (char*)&on, sizeof(on)) != 0) errmsg("setsockopt nodelay failed"); on = MAX_MSG; if (setsockopt(nfd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_SNDBUF, (char*)&on, sizeof(on)) != 0) errmsg("setsockopt sndbuf failed"); on = MAX_MSG; if (setsockopt(nfd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_RCVBUF, (char*)&on, sizeof(on)) != 0) errmsg("setsockopt rcvbuf failed"); if(setsockopt(nfd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_REUSEADDR, (char*)&on, sizeof(on)) != 0) errmsg("setsockopt reuseaddr failed"); _beginthread(work, 0, (void *)nfd); } sysfatal: if (fd){ shutdown(fd, SD_BOTH); closesocket(fd); } WSACleanup(); return(0); } void work(void *p) { session ss; unsigned tid; SOCKET skt = (SOCKET)p; SECURITY_ATTRIBUTES sa; HANDLE proc = 0, rd = 0, wr = 0, rt = 0, wt = 0, ha[2] = {0,0}; memset(&ss, 0, sizeof(ss)); sa.nLength = sizeof(SECURITY_ATTRIBUTES); sa.lpSecurityDescriptor = NULL; sa.bInheritHandle = TRUE; if (CreatePipe(&ss.rd, &wr, &sa, MAX_MSG) == FALSE) goto cleanup; if (CreatePipe(&rd, &ss.wr, &sa, MAX_MSG) == FALSE) goto cleanup; if ((proc = child(rd, wr)) == 0) goto cleanup; CloseHandle(rd); rd = 0; CloseHandle(wr); wr = 0; if ((ss.event = CreateEvent(NULL, TRUE, FALSE, NULL)) == 0) return; ss.skt = skt; if ((rt = (HANDLE)_beginthreadex(NULL, 0, thr_read, (void *)&ss, 0, &tid)) == 0) return; if ((wt = (HANDLE) _beginthreadex(NULL, 0, thr_write, (void *)&ss, 0, &tid)) == 0){ SetEvent(ss.event); WaitForSingleObject(rt, INFINITE); ResetEvent(ss.event); goto cleanup; } WaitForSingleObject(proc, INFINITE); ha[0] = rt; ha[1] = wt; SetEvent(ss.event); WaitForMultipleObjects(2, ha, TRUE, INFINITE); ResetEvent(ss.event); cleanup: if (rd) CloseHandle(rd); if (wr) CloseHandle(wr); if (ss.rd) CloseHandle(ss.rd); if (ss.wr) CloseHandle(ss.wr); if (ss.event) CloseHandle(ss.event); if (rt) CloseHandle(rt); if (wt) CloseHandle(wt); if (proc) CloseHandle(proc); shutdown(skt, SD_BOTH); closesocket(skt); } HANDLE child(HANDLE std_in, HANDLE std_out) { STARTUPINFO si; PROCESS_INFORMATION pi; memset(&si, 0, sizeof(STARTUPINFO)); si.cb = sizeof(STARTUPINFO); si.dwFlags = STARTF_USESTDHANDLES | STARTF_USESHOWWINDOW; si.wShowWindow = SW_HIDE; si.hStdInput = std_in; si.hStdOutput = std_out; DuplicateHandle(GetCurrentProcess(), std_out, GetCurrentProcess(), &si.hStdError, 0, TRUE, DUPLICATE_SAME_ACCESS); if (CreateProcess(NULL, Program, NULL, NULL, TRUE, 0, NULL, NULL, &si, &pi) == 0){ errmsg("cannot start %s", Program); return(0); } CloseHandle(pi.hThread); return pi.hProcess; } unsigned int __stdcall thr_read(void *vp) { unsigned long len, xfer; char *p, buf[MAX_MSG], *pos; session *ss = (session *)vp; while (1) { if (WaitForSingleObject(ss->event, 0) == WAIT_OBJECT_0) break; if (PeekNamedPipe(ss->rd, buf, sizeof(buf), &len, NULL, NULL) == NULL) break; if (len == 0){ Sleep(10); continue; } if (!ReadFile(ss->rd, buf, sizeof(buf), &len, 0)) break; pos = buf; if (Debug){ fprintf(stderr, "-> "); for (p = pos; p < pos + len; p++) if ((*p < ' ' || *p > '~') && *p != '\n') fprintf(stderr, "\\x%02x", *p); else fprintf(stderr, "%c", *p); fprintf(stderr, "\n"); } again: if ((xfer = send(ss->skt, pos, len, 0)) <= 0) break; if (xfer < len){ /* paranoia */ len -= xfer; pos += xfer; goto again; } } return(0); } unsigned int __stdcall thr_write(void *vp) { int err; fd_set rd; struct timeval tout; unsigned long len, xfer; char *p, buf[MAX_MSG], *pos; session *ss = (session *)vp; tout.tv_sec = 0; tout.tv_usec = 100000; while (1) { if (WaitForSingleObject(ss->event, 0) == WAIT_OBJECT_0) break; FD_ZERO(&rd); FD_SET((unsigned int)ss->skt, &rd); if ((err = select(ss->skt + 1, &rd, NULL, NULL, &tout)) < 0) break; if (err == 0) continue; if ((len = recv(ss->skt, buf, sizeof(buf), 0)) <= 0) break; pos = buf; if (Debug){ fprintf(stderr, "<- "); for (p = pos; p < pos + len; p++) if ((*p < ' ' || *p > '~') && *p != '\n') fprintf(stderr, "\\x%02x", *p); else fprintf(stderr, "%c", *p); fprintf(stderr, "\n"); } again: if (!WriteFile(ss->wr, pos, len, &xfer, 0)){ if (Debug) fprintf(stderr, "WriteFile failed\n"); break; } if (xfer < len){ /* paranoia */ len -= xfer; pos += xfer; goto again; } } return(0); } int errmsg(char *s, ...) /* NB: this is not sysfatal() - its not fatal. */ { char msg[128]; va_list args; fprintf(stderr, "%s: ", argv0); va_start(args, s); vfprintf(stderr, s, args); va_end(args); if (GetLastError()){ FormatMessage(FORMAT_MESSAGE_FROM_SYSTEM, NULL, GetLastError(), MAKELANGID(LANG_NEUTRAL, SUBLANG_DEFAULT), msg, sizeof(msg), 0); fprintf(stderr, " %lu/%s", (unsigned long)GetLastError(), msg); } if (WSAGetLastError()){ FormatMessage(FORMAT_MESSAGE_FROM_SYSTEM, NULL, WSAGetLastError(), MAKELANGID(LANG_NEUTRAL, SUBLANG_DEFAULT), msg, sizeof(msg), 0); fprintf(stderr, " %lu/%s", (unsigned long)WSAGetLastError(), msg); } fputc('\n', stderr); return(1); } char * ipaddr(unsigned long ip) { static char buf[20]; snprintf(buf, sizeof(buf), "%d.%d.%d.%d", (ip >> 24) & 0xff, (ip >> 16) & 0xff, (ip >> 8) & 0xff, (ip >> 0) & 0xff); return(buf); } #define CLASS(p) ((*(unsigned char*)(p))>>6) unsigned long parseip(char *to, char *from) { int i; char *p; p = from; memset(to, 0, 4); for(i = 0; i < 4 && *p; i++){ to[i] = strtoul(p, &p, 0); if(*p == '.') p++; } switch(CLASS(to)){ case 0: /* class A - 1 byte net */ case 1: if(i == 3){ to[3] = to[2]; to[2] = to[1]; to[1] = 0; } else if (i == 2){ to[3] = to[1]; to[1] = 0; } break; case 2: /* class B - 2 byte net */ if(i == 3){ to[3] = to[2]; to[2] = 0; } break; } return ntohl(*(unsigned long *)to); } --upas-anvlxdwrzfzbzztaxwzqspxyxl Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=rxd.c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit #include #include #include static void getstr(HANDLE h, char *s, int n) { char c; unsigned long got; while (n--){ if (ReadFile(h, &c, 1, &got, NULL) == 0) break; if (got != 1) break; *s++ = c; if (c == 0) break; } } static void putstr(HANDLE h, char *s) { unsigned long got; WriteFile(h, s, strlen(s) +1, &got, NULL); } void main() { int cmdlen; HANDLE inp, out; STARTUPINFO si; PROCESS_INFORMATION pi; unsigned long len; char errport[24], remuser[24], locuser[24], cmd[4096], iam[1024]; if (!GetEnvironmentVariable("COMSPEC", cmd, sizeof(cmd))) strcpy(cmd, "cmd.exe"); strcat(cmd, " /c "); cmdlen = strlen(cmd); inp = GetStdHandle(STD_INPUT_HANDLE); out = GetStdHandle(STD_OUTPUT_HANDLE); SetConsoleMode(inp, ENABLE_PROCESSED_INPUT); SetConsoleMode(out, 0); getstr(inp, errport, sizeof(errport)); getstr(inp, remuser, sizeof(remuser)); getstr(inp, locuser, sizeof(locuser)); getstr(inp, cmd + cmdlen, sizeof(cmd) - cmdlen); len = sizeof(iam); GetUserName(iam, &len); if (strcmp(iam, locuser) != 0){ putstr(out, "xAuthentication failed\n"); Sleep(100); exit(1); } putstr(out, ""); Sleep(10); memset(&pi, 0, sizeof(pi)); memset(&si, 0, sizeof(si)); si.cb = sizeof(si); if( !CreateProcess(NULL, cmd, NULL, NULL, TRUE, 0, NULL, NULL, &si, &pi)){ fprintf(stderr, "'%s' exec failed\n", cmd); Sleep(100); exit(1); } Sleep(100); WaitForSingleObject(pi.hProcess, INFINITE); CloseHandle(pi.hProcess); CloseHandle(pi.hThread); exit(0); } --upas-anvlxdwrzfzbzztaxwzqspxyxl-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 18:59:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 18:59:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 23985 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 18:59:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 23980 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 18:59:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 18:59:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7040019CBE; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 05:59:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F261D19BC3; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 05:59:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 36B8719BEB; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 05:58:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from prunelle.tombob.com (82-41-200-130.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [82.41.200.130]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 505DE19BD8 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 05:58:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <474e59b36f9a7c801ac5004816b0e219@tombob.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] spaces in passwords and factotum secstore file From: plan9@blueyonder.co.uk In-Reply-To: <9ea00626b9b796c02f2caf5aba645d0a@mightycheese.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:58:03 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Managed to get it to work with key proto=pass server=some.server service=imap user=me '!password= pwd with spaces' Thanks, Robby From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 19:45:51 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 19:45:51 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 25041 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 19:45:40 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 25036 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 19:45:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 19:45:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 47C0E19CCD; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 06:45:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C522C19C76; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 06:45:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2BD7A19C15; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 06:44:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from juice.thebigchoice.com (pc1-nott2-3-cust18.nott.cable.ntl.com [80.4.204.18]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 232F819C1E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 06:44:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5081 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 10:44:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO proweb.co.uk) (192.168.1.100) by juice.thebigchoice.com with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 10:44:38 -0000 Message-ID: <3F0E9516.5060500@proweb.co.uk> From: matt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp References: <967768cb40aa71d536446da30109cc15@plan9.bell-labs.com> In-Reply-To: <967768cb40aa71d536446da30109cc15@plan9.bell-labs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:44:38 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > >The result is that the one org willing to take financial responsibility, >i.e. Microsoft, can get away with something as crufty as Passport. > There's a huge pot of gold for someone who starts this off. Sadly it's going to take a world player to force it. Someone with a big set of electronic customers needs to say : "we will no longer accept SMTP mail" The Register has this recent [scare] story : The Internet Research Task Force's (IRTF) quest for an effective solution to spam has struck gold in the form of IT specialist Mark McCarron. http://theregister.co.uk/content/55/31638.html From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 20:00:42 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 20:00:42 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 25325 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 20:00:41 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 25320 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 20:00:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 20:00:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 41E7319CB1; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 07:00:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3118D19C1E; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 07:00:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D295819C1E; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 06:59:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from juice.thebigchoice.com (pc1-nott2-3-cust18.nott.cable.ntl.com [80.4.204.18]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id C283419AF7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 06:59:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7602 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 10:59:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO proweb.co.uk) (192.168.1.100) by juice.thebigchoice.com with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 10:59:53 -0000 Message-ID: <3F0E98A9.1080308@proweb.co.uk> From: matt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? References: <002801c34750$47015010$3f00a8c0@MERCURY> In-Reply-To: <002801c34750$47015010$3f00a8c0@MERCURY> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:59:53 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > > the fact that it >seems to consist of a random collection of constantly changing APIs >designed, if that's the right word, by different groups of people who never >talked to each other about things such as a uniform method for reporting >errors. > > that's a business model, those MSDN subscriptions aren't free ya know [at least they weren't free the day I stopped reading them] From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 20:25:43 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 20:25:43 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 26029 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 20:25:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 26025 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 20:25:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 20:25:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9AFAE19CDC; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 07:25:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A2CD519C61; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 07:25:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A60D119CA8; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 07:24:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lnx00.cecm.usp.br (lnx00.cecm.usp.br [143.107.90.10]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 5F2C419AB4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 07:24:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19772 invoked by uid 1073); 11 Jul 2003 11:24:14 -0000 From: "Alexis S. L. Carvalho" To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? Message-ID: <20030711112413.GA19647@cecm.usp.br> References: <200307100615.h6A6Fh7H072115@ducky.net> <86c25708dfe8ed8efeedd415a82807f3@collyer.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86c25708dfe8ed8efeedd415a82807f3@collyer.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-Editor: Vim-601 http://www.vim.org Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 08:24:13 -0300 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Thus spake Geoff Collyer: > To really pick nits, why should setting LANG=en_US.UTF-8 bugger the > sort order and change to all-numeric uglies? I'm an English-speaker > in the US who prefers UTF-8, and I don't want any of this rubbish. (Please don't shoot me for knowing this...) There are quite a few locale categories - LC_CTYPE specifies the encoding used, LC_COLLATE the sorting order and so on. You can see their current value using the command locale. LANG specifies the default value for all categories; you can override one particular category with LC_CTYPE, LC_COLLATE etc. LC_ALL overrides both LC_* and LANG. In a nutshell: use LANG=C and LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 and you should be happier. Alexis From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 22:26:23 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 22:26:23 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 28560 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 22:26:22 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 28556 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 22:26:21 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 22:26:21 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8891319CDA; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 09:26:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D200219AB0; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 09:26:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A9E4619A77; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 09:25:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net (harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.12]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E5AC919AB1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 09:25:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sdn-ap-019castocp0072.dialsprint.net ([65.178.64.72] helo=acm.org) by harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19axuO-0005dB-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 06:25:56 -0700 Message-ID: <3F0EBB2D.4050207@acm.org> From: "D. Brownlee" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; NetBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030701 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? References: <006501c34767$758415a0$3f00a8c0@MERCURY> <00b501c3476b$4c2b8860$b9844051@insultant.net> In-Reply-To: <00b501c3476b$4c2b8860$b9844051@insultant.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 06:27:09 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,RCVD_IN_NJABL,RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG, X_NJABL_DIALUP version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >>Look, we don't want SIGINT, okay??? > > > yes you do. SIGINT kills the proc. on windows the 'process' is asked to > 'call it quits' and that doesn't really work, especially when the 'process' in > in a hung state and is less than cooperative. > > On Win2k the task mgr. will say something like, "Process not responding. Do you want to end it now and lose your data?" So, they must have some way of killing it. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 11 23:47:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 11 23:47:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 30331 invoked by uid 1020); 11 Jul 2003 23:47:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 30327 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 23:47:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 23:47:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0598D19CE5; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:47:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C07E119CDB; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:47:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E0C1119CDD; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:46:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wilbur.25thandClement.com (wilbur.25thandclement.com [64.62.167.198]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E4EC919CD9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:46:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wilbur.25thandClement.com (william@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wilbur.25thandClement.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6BEkhj8012628 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 07:46:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from william@localhost) by wilbur.25thandClement.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6BEkhrI007634 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 07:46:43 -0700 (PDT) From: William Ahern To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp Message-ID: <20030711144643.GA26212@wilbur.25thandClement.com> References: <20030710212155.6079.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> <200307102150.h6ALol704789@augusta.math.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200307102150.h6ALol704789@augusta.math.psu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 07:46:43 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 05:50:47PM -0400, Dan Cross wrote: > > | What is needed is a distributed PKI. > > > > But why? It seems easy enough to use use private keys, and a nice > > protocol like SRP. > > Well, the typical reason given is that you end up with this n^2 key > distribution problem. PKI (in theory, at least) solves that via > signature chains. Shared secret key systems like Kerberos have > attempted to solve this with authentication hierarchies, but while > e.g. Kerberos has proliferated, the hierarchial authentication > component hasn't. > > I don't understand this talk of `distributed PKI' though; isn't the > whole idea of a PKI that it's distributed to begin with? Supposedly we > have that; it's just never really worked all that well. Because for many things, especially when you get into generic web services, you don't need a hierarchy of _trusted_ certificate chains that you can trace. All you really care is that the same client who visited you yesterday is the same one doing a follow-up today. Or maybe that you were redirected to service XYZ, and you need a high degree (not absolute) of probability that the service XYZ you are talking to is the one you were meant to be redirected to. Not to mention its pretty much requisite to build any significantly sized trust metric system. If I'm in a corporation, then a hierarchical system is normative. But in the rest of the world, why do I care if some capriciously chosen entity vouches for the _name_ (not identity) of some web site? - Bill From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 12 00:00:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 12 00:00:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 30693 invoked by uid 1020); 12 Jul 2003 00:00:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 30689 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2003 00:00:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 12 Jul 2003 00:00:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 757A119CE9; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:00:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DC03F19CE1; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:00:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C246919CE1; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:59:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailrelay1.lanl.gov (mailrelay1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.101]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BBF4319CDB for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:59:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay1.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6BExTDP001746 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 08:59:30 -0600 Received: from maxroach.lanl.gov (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6BExTUk019342 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 08:59:29 -0600 From: ron minnich To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple question In-Reply-To: <013901c3473e$100d7e10$c901a8c0@cc77109e> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.35 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 08:59:29 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Fri, 11 Jul 2003, Bruce Ellis wrote: > 5l on sources is the froggie loader. > > /usr/inferno/os/port/devdynload.c is the driver Thanks bruce. I am still a newbie so brucee did not ring any bells with me. Is there any (sorry to ask) licensing issue if I try to port this to 4e? thanks ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 12 00:02:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 12 00:02:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 30765 invoked by uid 1020); 12 Jul 2003 00:02:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 30761 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2003 00:02:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 12 Jul 2003 00:02:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 56DE519CEC; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:02:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D30E719CE7; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:02:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2FC8D19CE3; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:01:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailrelay2.lanl.gov (mailrelay2.lanl.gov [128.165.4.103]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1F1B319CE6 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:01:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay2.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6BF1WOP024972 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 09:01:32 -0600 Received: from maxroach.lanl.gov (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6BF1VUk019427 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 09:01:31 -0600 From: ron minnich To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? In-Reply-To: <85139cb0363c3b2b1f14746d68b9ff59@plan9.bell-labs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.35 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 09:01:31 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, David Presotto wrote: > Not to mention the fact that you have to send/receive on sockets > and read/write on everything else so that an app has to check > the type of any handles it is passed so that it can use the > right calls. and if memory serves, sendto/recvfrom won't work on tcp sockets (they do on *bsd) so you not only need to have exact knowledge of it being a socket, and what type of socket it is. W32 is in many ways the evil counterexample to Plan 9. ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 12 00:04:27 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 12 00:04:27 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 30848 invoked by uid 1020); 12 Jul 2003 00:04:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 30844 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2003 00:04:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 12 Jul 2003 00:04:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5174119CF4; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:04:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AE94819CE4; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:04:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8450419CE4; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:03:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wilbur.25thandClement.com (wilbur.25thandclement.com [64.62.167.198]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 91A7219CE3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:03:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wilbur.25thandClement.com (william@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wilbur.25thandClement.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6BF36j8028039 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 08:03:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from william@localhost) by wilbur.25thandClement.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6BF36uL006465 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 08:03:06 -0700 (PDT) From: William Ahern To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp Message-ID: <20030711150306.GB26212@wilbur.25thandClement.com> References: <967768cb40aa71d536446da30109cc15@plan9.bell-labs.com> <01ed01c34740$aa416f80$b9844051@insultant.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <01ed01c34740$aa416f80$b9844051@insultant.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 08:03:06 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 02:09:15AM +0200, boyd, rounin wrote: > at some point when the bank [french] were talking about doing > X.509 stuff and random things with their clients i suggested > they stuck the certs on a chip/smart card (the things being > rampant in france since a govt decree in 1991) and jamming > it into a reader. when it dies it's dead and then you use some > other channel to renew it. > I bought a 10-pack of Schlumberger cryptocards (RSA operations computed on-chip, plus the USB controller is on-chip so there's no need to carry around a card reader everywhere). I've been meaning to setup a completely password-less system for login to my personal machines, as well as authentication to my servers via ssh. Now I'm writing an Apache module to interface w/ BSD Auth (similar to PAM), so it can all integrate w/ the web sites as well. The only problem is I can't get the damn thing to get recognized in Linux.... Supposedly everybody and their uncle has gotten it to work in a snap. *sigh* Interactive password systems stink, but like many other sticky subjects, where's the alternative? (tho in an all Windows environment I've read its fairly workable). From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 12 00:07:20 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 12 00:07:20 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 30901 invoked by uid 1020); 12 Jul 2003 00:07:20 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 30897 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2003 00:07:19 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 12 Jul 2003 00:07:19 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2261C19CF7; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:07:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BA59E19CE4; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:07:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0404219CE4; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:06:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 04C6219C1E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:06:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6BF6WeH013284 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 09:06:32 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6BF6WLL013280 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 09:06:32 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Archiving appliance In-Reply-To: <1057912039.10046.16.camel@coffin01> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 09:06:32 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I'll go first, hopefully other can correct me. there are several approaches you can take, rated here based on how good they sound to me (this also happens to be the same order, had they been rated by the 'impossibility to implement in the real world' scale): - replace NetApp with Fossil/Venti. it really sounds like a good idea. a fossil/venti combination gives you exactly the same thing as a NetApp, but it has the archival option (dumps), and no NFS as a bonus. (how about speed?) cons: you need to teach your client applications to speak 9p - teach NetApp to speak 9p (or just to talk directly to the Venti) and have it store dumps there every night. good thing about this is that your applications don't need to know 9p, and could still access /n/dump/yyyy/mmdd/-style archives. cons: quite a bit. teaching NetApp to talk 9p may be quite the task. you still have NFS. - have a fossil/venti/nfs server in the back, where netapp dumps the data. that way you don't have to change anything but just add functionality. cons: you still have to deal with NFS, and Plan 9 does not a good NFS server make, I've heard. andrey ps: this list is non-exhaustive, it is just what I could think of during morning coffee. it also could be totally wrong. On 11 Jul 2003, Anders Soendergaard wrote: > Hi Plan 9 folks. > > I'm involved in a project that is to produce archiving > services to our company. Besides policies and procedures > we need a box with a lot of disks. > > I thought it would be fun to see if it was possible to > use Venti/Fossil for that purpose. My wet dream is to make > some sort of Plan 9 archiving appliance that you would dump > your data on from our NetApp's. We would then have several > of those appliances on different sites that replicated their > local content to the others. > > The first obstacle is to get the data from the NetApps to > the Venti/Fossil server. This might be through a gateway > of some sort. > > Has anybody tried something like that? Or is it a waste > of time to try this approach? > > > Best regards, > > From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 12 00:17:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 12 00:17:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 31134 invoked by uid 1020); 12 Jul 2003 00:17:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 31130 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2003 00:17:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 12 Jul 2003 00:17:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D576319CFB; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:17:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B5BFB19CEF; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:17:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0CC8719CEF; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:16:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Princeton.EDU (postoffice02.Princeton.EDU [128.112.130.38]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2971119CE3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:16:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpserver1.Princeton.EDU (smtpserver1.Princeton.EDU [128.112.129.65]) by Princeton.EDU (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6BFG4rc023392 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:16:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from princeton.edu (albion.Princeton.EDU [128.112.234.82]) by smtpserver1.Princeton.EDU (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6BFG4Sd025658 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:16:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3F0ED4B3.4B140151@princeton.edu> From: Martin Harriss Organization: Princeton University OIT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp References: <967768cb40aa71d536446da30109cc15@plan9.bell-labs.com> <01ed01c34740$aa416f80$b9844051@insultant.net> <20030711150306.GB26212@wilbur.25thandClement.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:16:03 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_XM,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) William Ahern wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 02:09:15AM +0200, boyd, rounin wrote: > > at some point when the bank [french] were talking about doing > > X.509 stuff and random things with their clients i suggested > > they stuck the certs on a chip/smart card (the things being > > rampant in france since a govt decree in 1991) and jamming > > it into a reader. when it dies it's dead and then you use some > > other channel to renew it. > > > > I bought a 10-pack of Schlumberger cryptocards (RSA operations computed > on-chip, plus the USB controller is on-chip so there's no need to carry > around a card reader everywhere). I've been meaning to setup a completely > password-less system for login to my personal machines, as well as > authentication to my servers via ssh. Now I'm writing an Apache module to > interface w/ BSD Auth (similar to PAM), so it can all integrate w/ the web > sites as well. > > The only problem is I can't get the damn thing to get recognized in > Linux.... Supposedly everybody and their uncle has gotten it to work in a > snap. *sigh* > > Interactive password systems stink, but like many other sticky subjects, > where's the alternative? (tho in an all Windows environment I've read its > fairly workable). But now these cards become bearer instruments. You steal the card, you have access. Methinks you need at least a PIN to validate the card. Martin From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 12 00:17:42 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 12 00:17:42 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 31141 invoked by uid 1020); 12 Jul 2003 00:17:41 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 31137 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2003 00:17:41 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 12 Jul 2003 00:17:41 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A540A19D02; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:17:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 593B119CE4; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:17:27 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E1C8919CEF; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:16:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailrelay2.lanl.gov (mailrelay2.lanl.gov [128.165.4.103]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D4E8619CE3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:16:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay2.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6BFGVOP032628 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 09:16:31 -0600 Received: from maxroach.lanl.gov (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6BFGVUk019916 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 09:16:31 -0600 From: ron minnich To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Archiving appliance In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.35 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 09:16:30 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Fri, 11 Jul 2003, andrey mirtchovski wrote: > - replace NetApp with Fossil/Venti. it really sounds like a good idea. a > fossil/venti combination gives you exactly the same thing as a NetApp, but > it has the archival option (dumps), and no NFS as a bonus. (how about > speed?) netapp has snapshots however. > cons: you need to teach your client applications to speak 9p er ... > cons: quite a bit. teaching NetApp to talk 9p may be quite the task. you > still have NFS. esp. as netapp will say market share for 9p servers is approx 0.0% > cons: you still have to deal with NFS, and Plan 9 does not a good NFS > server make, I've heard. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 12 01:01:44 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 12 01:01:44 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 32163 invoked by uid 1020); 12 Jul 2003 01:01:43 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 32157 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2003 01:01:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 12 Jul 2003 01:01:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5451E19CF6; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 12:01:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 08CB819CDB; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 12:01:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9EA6B19BC2; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 12:00:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wilbur.25thandClement.com (wilbur.25thandclement.com [64.62.167.198]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9FDB619A68 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 12:00:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wilbur.25thandClement.com (william@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wilbur.25thandClement.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6BFxxj8001233 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 08:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from william@localhost) by wilbur.25thandClement.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6BFxxTJ014379 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 08:59:59 -0700 (PDT) From: William Ahern To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp Message-ID: <20030711155959.GA3136@wilbur.25thandClement.com> References: <967768cb40aa71d536446da30109cc15@plan9.bell-labs.com> <01ed01c34740$aa416f80$b9844051@insultant.net> <20030711150306.GB26212@wilbur.25thandClement.com> <3F0ED4B3.4B140151@princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F0ED4B3.4B140151@princeton.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 08:59:59 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 11:16:03AM -0400, Martin Harriss wrote: > But now these cards become bearer instruments. You steal the card, you > have access. Methinks you need at least a PIN to validate the card. > > Martin yes, but you *know* when you're card is gone. often there isn't even a hint that somebody has _stolen_ your password. i certainly don't think these cards are a panacea. you can strip the casing w/ acid and trace the on-board chips and _steal_ the private key. but for the forseeable future this behavior is significantly mediated by time and physical constraints, which at the very least can give me a warning that the card cannot be trusted anymore. i would personally frown on any singular dependence by a government on the technology, because of your point, and also the corollary that the more valuable they become, the quicker the bad guys will develop the ability to copy/replace them. 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Thanks, Sam From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 12 05:23:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 12 05:23:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 4483 invoked by uid 1020); 12 Jul 2003 05:23:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 4479 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2003 05:23:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 12 Jul 2003 05:23:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 83AA919B36; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:23:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 22C9519B36; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:23:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D87DE19CE8; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:22:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailnw.centurytel.net (mailnw.centurytel.net [209.206.160.237]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A85E019B2C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:22:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from laptopvmw.9netics.com ([64.91.109.37]) by mailnw.centurytel.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6BKMBIE027788 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 13:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1efd792a3ee90e6dd21ffbb41efc51e5@centurytel.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Archiving appliance From: "Skip Tavakkolian" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 13:22:16 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) One of my clients recently had an RFC for a document management system. The process was well underway before I got there. Had I been there early enough, it would have been worthwhile to propose a Plan9 solution for about a quarter of the average price from other vendors. I went through a rough cost estimate exercise. One chunk of the effort would have to go to maturing SMB and NFS servers, and adding in a snapshot-on-change feature; Another would be to build an automatic mechanism for indexing of the content and correlating it with fossil/venti snapshots. I think this would be the same issue for caching servers. Relating what the user is looking for with a snapshot will be the key. Maybe that is what rob is working on at google. maybe not. > I'll go first, hopefully other can correct me. > > there are several approaches you can take, rated here based on how good they > sound to me (this also happens to be the same order, had they been rated by > the 'impossibility to implement in the real world' scale): > > - replace NetApp with Fossil/Venti. it really sounds like a good idea. a > fossil/venti combination gives you exactly the same thing as a NetApp, but > it has the archival option (dumps), and no NFS as a bonus. (how about > speed?) > > cons: you need to teach your client applications to speak 9p > > - teach NetApp to speak 9p (or just to talk directly to the Venti) and have > it store dumps there every night. good thing about this is that your > applications don't need to know 9p, and could still access > /n/dump/yyyy/mmdd/-style archives. > > cons: quite a bit. teaching NetApp to talk 9p may be quite the task. you > still have NFS. > > - have a fossil/venti/nfs server in the back, where netapp dumps the data. > that way you don't have to change anything but just add functionality. > > cons: you still have to deal with NFS, and Plan 9 does not a good NFS > server make, I've heard. > > andrey > > ps: this list is non-exhaustive, it is just what I could think of during > morning coffee. it also could be totally wrong. > > On 11 Jul 2003, Anders Soendergaard wrote: > >> Hi Plan 9 folks. >> >> I'm involved in a project that is to produce archiving >> services to our company. Besides policies and procedures >> we need a box with a lot of disks. >> >> I thought it would be fun to see if it was possible to >> use Venti/Fossil for that purpose. My wet dream is to make >> some sort of Plan 9 archiving appliance that you would dump >> your data on from our NetApp's. We would then have several >> of those appliances on different sites that replicated their >> local content to the others. >> >> The first obstacle is to get the data from the NetApps to >> the Venti/Fossil server. This might be through a gateway >> of some sort. >> >> Has anybody tried something like that? Or is it a waste >> of time to try this approach? >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 12 05:23:38 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 12 05:23:38 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 4490 invoked by uid 1020); 12 Jul 2003 05:23:37 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 4486 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2003 05:23:37 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 12 Jul 2003 05:23:37 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 850A319CF9; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:23:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1344619CF0; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:23:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A8F29199B3; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:22:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BF55C19A69 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:22:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: David Presotto To: sah@softcardsystems.com, 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] https MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-znwzecwufxyxarxezqrzerywza" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:24:21 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-znwzecwufxyxarxezqrzerywza Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Add an 'owner=*' field to the key that you dump into factotum. See if your old key has that. --upas-znwzecwufxyxarxezqrzerywza Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Fri Jul 11 13:55:02 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Fri Jul 11 13:54:59 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5BFD119CE3; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 13:53:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 79BD219AB1; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 13:53:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BDA2019BEB; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 13:52:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athena.softcardsystems.com (mail.softcardsystems.com [12.34.136.114]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1082B19AB1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 13:52:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athena (athena [12.34.136.114]) by athena.softcardsystems.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6BGvNEh017149 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 12:57:23 -0400 From: Sam X-Sender: To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] https Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 12:57:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I recently have had cause to regenerate our certificate to indicate our more recent domain name. I've followed the instructions in rsa(8) for key/cert generation. Restarting httpd with the new cert causes https auths to fail with ``no key matches.'' Given my penchant for boobism, I've very carefully made certain the right key was in factotum and even pulled the httpd binary from sources, just in case. If I switch back to the old key/cert pair, authentication works as expected. Can anyone else see this or am I having local issues? 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Don http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 12 08:35:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 12 08:35:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 7595 invoked by uid 1020); 12 Jul 2003 08:35:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 7591 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2003 08:35:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 12 Jul 2003 08:35:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5A8B819D05; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 19:35:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1616219BF1; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 19:35:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id AB1A119CDF; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 19:34:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-05.noos.net [212.198.2.74]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D0DAA19A69 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 19:34:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8262391 invoked by uid 0); 11 Jul 2003 23:34:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.74 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 11 Jul 2003 23:34:00 -0000 Message-ID: <01e401c34804$e6304ce0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <20030710160854.E7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <4b98d4a6bc053f2a6d06aed8997d50ff@plan9.bell-labs.com> <20030710162509.F7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <3F0D8198.6000009@nas.com> <20030711064145.G7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <00f601c34772$215ea340$b9844051@insultant.net> <20030711081111.H7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <012a01c3477a$018ce920$b9844051@insultant.net> <3F0E719A.2050307@ameritech.net> <3F0EE174.9010704@nas.com> <3F0F567D.8090409@ameritech.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] A simple question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 01:33:57 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Then bust out the soft serve, bro. It's summer time! well, in one hemisphere :) From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 12 09:54:48 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 12 09:54:48 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 9835 invoked by uid 1020); 12 Jul 2003 09:54:37 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 9831 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2003 09:54:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 12 Jul 2003 09:54:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 98A0B19D01; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 20:54:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3910E19CFA; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 20:54:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 57CC719CE8; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 20:53:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wmail.atlantic.net (wmail.atlantic.net [209.208.0.84]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 76DA919CD3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 20:52:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20756 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 23:49:00 -0000 Received: from cpe-203-51-78-31.nsw.bigpond.net.au (HELO cc77109e) (203.51.78.31) by wmail.atlantic.net with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 23:49:00 -0000 Message-ID: <013801c3480f$d493ef40$c901a8c0@cc77109e> From: "Bruce Ellis" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <967768cb40aa71d536446da30109cc15@plan9.bell-labs.com> <01ed01c34740$aa416f80$b9844051@insultant.net> <20030711150306.GB26212@wilbur.25thandClement.com> <3F0ED4B3.4B140151@princeton.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp Organization: www.chunder.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 10:51:41 +1000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > I bought a 10-pack of Schlumberger cryptocards (RSA operations computed > > on-chip, plus the USB controller is on-chip so there's no need to carry > > around a card reader everywhere). I have some of these - they are kinda neat. They generate and store RSA key pairs and won't release the private key. > > The only problem is I can't get the damn thing to get recognized in > > Linux.... Supposedly everybody and their uncle has gotten it to work in a > > snap. *sigh* Not a good space to be looking at Linux code - there is so much Linux smart card code - buckets of repeated code, all almost right. > But now these cards become bearer instruments. You steal the card, you > have access. Methinks you need at least a PIN to validate the card. The cards I have are PIN protected. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 12 15:20:43 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 12 15:20:43 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 18581 invoked by uid 1020); 12 Jul 2003 15:20:42 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 18573 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2003 15:20:39 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 12 Jul 2003 15:20:39 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0434719CEB; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 02:20:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 37BAA19D0B; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 02:20:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 90CF919CDF; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 02:19:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailnw.centurytel.net (mailnw.centurytel.net [209.206.160.237]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B5E0719B9F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 02:19:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from laptopvmw.9netics.com ([64.91.109.37]) by mailnw.centurytel.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6C6J5IE009514 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 23:19:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: "Skip Tavakkolian" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] imap4d man page nitpick Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 23:19:10 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) diff /n/dump/2003/0711/sys/man/8/pop3 /sys/man/8/pop3 86c86 < .B p --- > .B c From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 13 08:55:53 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 13 08:55:53 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 4695 invoked by uid 1020); 13 Jul 2003 08:55:42 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 4691 invoked from network); 13 Jul 2003 08:55:42 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 13 Jul 2003 08:55:42 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7160319C2A; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 19:55:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E98A619C33; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 19:55:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A432A19C27; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 19:54:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from doppio.vitanuova.com (unknown [62.254.170.97]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 26E0319A84 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 19:54:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <8ad941aca9fdad3ba916503276aa99b8@vitanuova.com> From: C H Forsyth To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp In-Reply-To: <20030711144643.GA26212@wilbur.25thandClement.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-afeguxxbwxcdfbrmryuekayxod" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 00:58:11 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-afeguxxbwxcdfbrmryuekayxod Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit what makes you think that PKI is necessarily or even essentially hierarchical? are you sure that was that the aim of some (or all) of the inventors? --upas-afeguxxbwxcdfbrmryuekayxod Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu> Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for forsyth@vitanuova.com id 19azJo-4-7Og-DZ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 14:56:16 -0000 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by punt-3.mail.demon.net id aa0421715; 11 Jul 2003 14:47 GMT Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E859E19CDF; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:47:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4054019CDE; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:47:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E0C1119CDD; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:46:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wilbur.25thandClement.com (wilbur.25thandclement.com [64.62.167.198]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E4EC919CD9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:46:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wilbur.25thandClement.com (william@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wilbur.25thandClement.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6BEkhj8012628 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 07:46:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from william@localhost) by wilbur.25thandClement.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6BEkhrI007634 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 07:46:43 -0700 (PDT) From: William Ahern To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp Message-ID: <20030711144643.GA26212@wilbur.25thandClement.com> References: <20030710212155.6079.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> <200307102150.h6ALol704789@augusta.math.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200307102150.h6ALol704789@augusta.math.psu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 07:46:43 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 05:50:47PM -0400, Dan Cross wrote: > > | What is needed is a distributed PKI. > > > > But why? It seems easy enough to use use private keys, and a nice > > protocol like SRP. > > Well, the typical reason given is that you end up with this n^2 key > distribution problem. PKI (in theory, at least) solves that via > signature chains. Shared secret key systems like Kerberos have > attempted to solve this with authentication hierarchies, but while > e.g. Kerberos has proliferated, the hierarchial authentication > component hasn't. > > I don't understand this talk of `distributed PKI' though; isn't the > whole idea of a PKI that it's distributed to begin with? Supposedly we > have that; it's just never really worked all that well. Because for many things, especially when you get into generic web services, you don't need a hierarchy of _trusted_ certificate chains that you can trace. All you really care is that the same client who visited you yesterday is the same one doing a follow-up today. Or maybe that you were redirected to service XYZ, and you need a high degree (not absolute) of probability that the service XYZ you are talking to is the one you were meant to be redirected to. Not to mention its pretty much requisite to build any significantly sized trust metric system. If I'm in a corporation, then a hierarchical system is normative. But in the rest of the world, why do I care if some capriciously chosen entity vouches for the _name_ (not identity) of some web site? - Bill --upas-afeguxxbwxcdfbrmryuekayxod-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 14 02:04:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 14 02:04:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 24589 invoked by uid 1020); 14 Jul 2003 02:04:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 24585 invoked from network); 14 Jul 2003 02:04:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 14 Jul 2003 02:04:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3615019B15; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 13:04:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A7ED219AD7; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 13:04:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7C23019AE0; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 13:03:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 89D3919AC2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 13:03:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6DH3OeH025763 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 11:03:24 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6DH3OvI025759 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 11:03:24 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] new font Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 11:03:24 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) thanx to Skip Tavakkolian's bdf2subf (http://www.9netics.com/who/fst/) program I have converted the XFree86 utf-8 font that I use the most in UNIX. Here is a screenshot, comparing it with unicode.8.font: http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~mirtchov/screenshots/scr-9x18.png note how much better the other characters look. this font has additional 18x18kr and 18x18jp glyphs, which makes it pretty much the most complete font of them all. note, however that there are still some problems with accented capital letters (O, U on the first row) which I'm not sure whether to blame the font or the conversion for. since it comes from XFree86, the license (I believe) would be more liberal than some of the fonts currently in Plan 9. I would imagine that including it in the default distribution wouldn't be a problem, right? i've left the NUL glyph empty, so that bell-labs people will have the chance to add pjw's face as it is with all other fonts cheers, andrey ps: mail me for the font.. i haven't added the japanese and korean glyphs yet, but will do so later today. pps: Skip's bdf2subf program did all the work -- thank him for it :) From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 14 02:36:53 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 14 02:36:53 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 24984 invoked by uid 1020); 14 Jul 2003 02:36:42 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 24980 invoked from network); 14 Jul 2003 02:36:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 14 Jul 2003 02:36:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 75DBB19B03; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 13:36:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 07541199F2; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 13:36:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 118EB19AC2; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 13:35:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from infocom.km.ua (infocom.km.ua [195.46.36.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B6BD1199E8 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 13:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kp.km.ua (root@kp.km.ua [217.196.174.2]) by infocom.km.ua (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/ic) with ESMTP id h6DHYuDO035889 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 20:35:02 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from plan9@kp.km.ua) Received: from localhost.localdomain (dialup13.kp.km.ua [217.196.174.28]) by kp.km.ua (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/kp-branch) with SMTP id h6DHYpHT005668 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 20:34:52 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from plan9@kp.km.ua) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" From: "Andrey S. Kukhar" To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] new font X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <03071320400800.00525@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 20:40:08 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_FUTURE_06_12,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) hi, could you send me the font namesake From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 14 02:38:20 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 14 02:38:20 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 25004 invoked by uid 1020); 14 Jul 2003 02:38:19 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 25000 invoked from network); 14 Jul 2003 02:38:19 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 14 Jul 2003 02:38:19 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BD5BF19B44; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 13:38:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9C91119B22; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 13:38:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2C93D19AE4; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 13:37:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.mightycheese.com (mail.mightycheese.com [209.61.186.18]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 788AF199F2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 13:37:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [216.239.45.4] (HELO glenda.corp.google.com) by mail.mightycheese.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 701838 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 12:46:01 -0500 Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] new font From: "rob pike, esq." In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 10:37:11 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Why not post a link to the font when it's got all the characters and the bugs in diacriticals are fixed? It looks like a great thing but one that's not quite ready. -rob From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 14 02:42:27 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 14 02:42:27 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 25117 invoked by uid 1020); 14 Jul 2003 02:42:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 25113 invoked from network); 14 Jul 2003 02:42:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 14 Jul 2003 02:42:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 30C7D19B7E; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 13:42:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7159419AC2; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 13:42:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 387FA19AE4; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 13:41:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from infocom.km.ua (infocom.km.ua [195.46.36.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2964E19A15 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 13:41:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kp.km.ua (root@kp.km.ua [217.196.174.2]) by infocom.km.ua (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/ic) with ESMTP id h6DHfIDO037021 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 20:41:19 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from plan9@kp.km.ua) Received: from localhost.localdomain (dialup13.kp.km.ua [217.196.174.28]) by kp.km.ua (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/kp-branch) with SMTP id h6DHfFHT006405 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 20:41:16 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from plan9@kp.km.ua) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" From: "Andrey S. Kukhar" To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] new font X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <03071320400800.00525@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <03071320400800.00525@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <03071320432201.00525@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 20:47:35 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_FUTURE_06_12,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) sorry, my previous letter only to andrey... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 14 02:58:24 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 14 02:58:24 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 25352 invoked by uid 1020); 14 Jul 2003 02:58:23 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 25348 invoked from network); 14 Jul 2003 02:58:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 14 Jul 2003 02:58:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B3A2819B2F; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 13:58:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8D7E519AE4; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 13:58:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DC98119AE6; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 13:57:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 027E219ABA for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 13:57:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6DHv4eH025836 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 11:57:04 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6DHv4tD025832 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 11:57:04 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] new font In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 11:57:04 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, rob pike, esq. wrote: > Why not post a link to the font when it's got all the characters and the > bugs in diacriticals are fixed? It looks like a great thing but one that's > not quite ready. > because I first have to learn how to fix them. I was hoping that somebody with better knowledge than me on the subject would have a suggestion. andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 14 03:07:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 14 03:07:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 25512 invoked by uid 1020); 14 Jul 2003 03:07:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 25508 invoked from network); 14 Jul 2003 03:07:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 14 Jul 2003 03:07:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 38EB319C23; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 14:07:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0E5E319BA2; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 14:07:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 34A6419BC2; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 14:06:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.mightycheese.com (mail.mightycheese.com [209.61.186.18]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7A89219B22 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 14:06:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [216.239.45.4] (HELO glenda.corp.google.com) by mail.mightycheese.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 701851 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 13:15:20 -0500 Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] new font From: "rob pike, esq." In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 11:06:30 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > because I first have to learn how to fix them. I was hoping that somebody > with better knowledge than me on the subject would have a suggestion. that's the job tweak was written to solve. it's a silly program but if you have to set or clear a bit or two, it works fine. -rob From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 14 03:57:27 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 14 03:57:27 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 26105 invoked by uid 1020); 14 Jul 2003 03:57:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 26101 invoked from network); 14 Jul 2003 03:57:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 14 Jul 2003 03:57:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id AAC1819BA2; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 14:57:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 446B9199E6; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 14:57:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 38D0619AD4; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 14:56:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4BE9C199E6 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 14:56:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6DIuUeH025948 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 12:56:30 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6DIuUuq025944 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 12:56:30 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] new font In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 12:56:30 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, rob pike, esq. wrote: > that's the job tweak was written to solve. it's a silly program but > if you have to set or clear a bit or two, it works fine. > I figured it out -- the bug was behind the keyboard. The ascent and height values I had specified in the font file didn't match the actual ones from the font, so the top of the font was cropped. I've decided to resample the 0x0-0x1F characters from latin8.1 and use that in the font. I'll have the font on the web shortly, including a utf8 demo program which crashes my drawterm when attempted with a normal plan9 font. andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 14 04:59:27 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 14 04:59:27 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 26869 invoked by uid 1020); 14 Jul 2003 04:59:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 26865 invoked from network); 14 Jul 2003 04:59:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 14 Jul 2003 04:59:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id AF8F719ABA; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 15:59:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 65AB219AAB; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 15:59:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7CCC019AAB; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 15:58:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailproxy.de.uu.net (mailproxy.de.uu.net [192.76.144.34]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6435119A03 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 15:58:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from knuut.de (1Cust185.tnt5.hnr2.deu.da.uu.net [149.225.146.185]) by mailproxy.de.uu.net (8.9.3p2/5.5.5) with SMTP id VAA06309 for <@uumail.de.uu.net:9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:58:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from andrew@localhost) by knuut.de (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id VAA00960 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:44:56 +0200 From: "Andrew Lynch" Message-Id: <1030713214455.ZM958@Sindy> In-Reply-To: David Presotto "Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful?" (Jul 10, 10:17pm) References: <813ab0b228dabb66d7a5c1985d8952bb@plan9.bell-labs.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (5.0.0 30July97) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:44:55 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,RCVD_IN_NJABL, RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, X_NJABL_DIALUP version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Jul 10, 10:17pm, David Presotto wrote: > I just tried a ReadFile on a socket on my NT system and it > failed miserably. You should upgrade to XP. There it fails with a smile on its face. Andrew. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 14 05:11:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 14 05:11:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27075 invoked by uid 1020); 14 Jul 2003 05:11:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27071 invoked from network); 14 Jul 2003 05:11:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 14 Jul 2003 05:11:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id F161A19A03; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 16:11:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 558AE19AA8; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 16:11:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 26A3819AAB; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 16:10:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3D40219A03 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 16:10:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6DKA6eH026084 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 14:10:06 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6DKA6s0026080 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 14:10:06 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] new fonts, this time for real Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 14:10:06 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I've put two of the newly converted fonts on the web, together with a test file: http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~mirtchov/p9/fonts/ both fonts (9x18 and 10x20) are complete conversions, the korean and japanese ones will come later -- they take too much time to complete. characters in the range 0x00-0x1F are taken from latin8.9 and ascii.10 respectively -- that way users will be accustomed to the common Plan 9 control character font. There doesn't appear to be any license distributed with the fonts. The author's page (linked to from the page above) also doesn't contain anything about licenses. I've contacted him and will update you when I know the licensing for sure. andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 14 07:34:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 14 07:34:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 29079 invoked by uid 1020); 14 Jul 2003 07:34:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 29075 invoked from network); 14 Jul 2003 07:34:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 14 Jul 2003 07:34:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2D39D19B24; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 18:34:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C0EE419AD4; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 18:34:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 48EB119AD4; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 18:33:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 54F5819AAB for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 18:33:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6DMXfeH026430 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 16:33:41 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6DMXfdS026426 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 16:33:41 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] new fonts, this time for real In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 16:33:41 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) It has been pointed to me that control character glyphs occur at 0x2400 in the new fonts just converted. This means that we can avoid abusing the latin1.9 and ascii.10 fonts, though we lose the historically significant NUL glyph. If anyone is interested in seeing how the fonts look without my intrusive Plan 9 font additions, do the following substitution: line 2 of 9x18.font becomes: 0x0000 0x001F 9x18.2400-2426 line 2 of 10x20.font becomes: 0x0000 0x001F 10x20.2400-2426 the files there are all viewable with page, so to check the differences between the two do: page 9x18.0-1F 9x18.2400-2426 I can imagine why the Plan9 people have decided to do this, the question is which one do you like better? andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 14 12:51:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 14 12:51:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 8191 invoked by uid 1020); 14 Jul 2003 12:51:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 8187 invoked from network); 14 Jul 2003 12:51:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 14 Jul 2003 12:51:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 39E8019AF1; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 23:51:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CCB1C19AC2; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 23:51:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2911519AD4; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 23:50:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3B96019A5E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 23:50:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6E3nseH026720 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:49:54 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6E3nrbX026716 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:49:54 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] even more fonts Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:49:53 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) positive feedback prompted me to spend the entire day converting fonts. I've put everything on the web page, uncluding some asian fonts (but not Korean -- if you want to write/read Korean in Plan 9 you have to email me). here's what I currently have: 4x6.tgz 5x7.tgz 5x8.tgz 6x10.tgz 6x12.tgz 6x13.tgz 6x13ja.tgz 6x9.tgz 7x13.tgz 7x14.tgz 8x13.tgz 9x15.tgz 9x18.tgz 10x20.tgz 18x18ja.tgz there are no more fonts in the set of BDFs that I have (it corresponds to 10646 fonts in XFree86), so I'll leave it at that. if you have anything else that you like and have converted it to images for Plan9 -- send it to me, I'll put it on the web page. lots of pictures, so you can choose your favourite size, at: http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~mirtchov/p9/fonts/ andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 14 22:23:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 14 22:23:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 29633 invoked by uid 1020); 14 Jul 2003 22:23:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 29629 invoked from network); 14 Jul 2003 22:23:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 14 Jul 2003 22:23:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1A0A119B50; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:23:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 016A119A08; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:23:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E0CD619B77; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:22:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mgw-x1.nokia.com (mgw-x1.nokia.com [131.228.20.21]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8083419A05 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:22:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from esvir01nok.ntc.nokia.com (esvir01nokt.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.143.33]) by mgw-x1.nokia.com (Switch-2.2.6/Switch-2.2.6) with ESMTP id h6E7Hla11420 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:17:47 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from esebh003.NOE.Nokia.com (unverified) by esvir01nok.ntc.nokia.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.5) with ESMTP id for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:17:47 +0300 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([172.27.161.71]) by esebh003.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6139); Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:17:46 +0300 Received: (from soenderg@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h6E7HVM20687 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:17:31 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: soenderg set sender to anders.soendergaard@nokia.com using -f Subject: Re: [9fans] Archiving appliance From: Anders Soendergaard To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Nokia Message-Id: <1058167050.20672.13.camel@coffin01> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.3 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jul 2003 07:17:46.0369 (UTC) FILETIME=[06489710:01C349D8] Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: 14 Jul 2003 09:17:30 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.3 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_XIMIAN,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Fri, 2003-07-11 at 17:06, ext andrey mirtchovski wrote: > - replace NetApp with Fossil/Venti. it really sounds like a good idea. a > fossil/venti combination gives you exactly the same thing as a NetApp, but > it has the archival option (dumps), and no NFS as a bonus. (how about > speed?) > > cons: you need to teach your client applications to speak 9p This is _not_ an option. We have a fantazillion different clients talking to our NetApps. Even some running a bizarre OS called Windows. Besides, we're really happy with the NetApps. They've got a very well implemented snapshot functionality I haven't seen anywhere else and they're fast as lightning. > - teach NetApp to speak 9p (or just to talk directly to the Venti) and have > it store dumps there every night. good thing about this is that your > applications don't need to know 9p, and could still access > /n/dump/yyyy/mmdd/-style archives. Although we are a relatively big customer with NetApp, I really doubt that they would take that seriously. It would be nice though! > - have a fossil/venti/nfs server in the back, where netapp dumps the data. > that way you don't have to change anything but just add functionality. > > cons: you still have to deal with NFS, and Plan 9 does not a good NFS > server make, I've heard. Yes, and I was hoping that someone had done a secret project that would allow me to avoid NFS. NDMP or something similar. But I guess thats the most "implementable" way to go. Thanks for your reply. Best regards, -- /Anders From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 14 22:23:55 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 14 22:23:55 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 29642 invoked by uid 1020); 14 Jul 2003 22:23:54 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 29638 invoked from network); 14 Jul 2003 22:23:54 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 14 Jul 2003 22:23:54 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 08496199FE; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:23:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3FAD119B06; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:23:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0F56A19B06; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:22:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7521119BBB for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:22:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19bz3n-0004BH-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:51:51 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: John Kodis Message-ID: Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center (skates.gsfc.nasa.gov) References: <006601c3471d$7a06de40$b9844051@insultant.net>, <85139cb0363c3b2b1f14746d68b9ff59@plan9.bell-labs.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 08:51:34 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article <85139cb0363c3b2b1f14746d68b9ff59@plan9.bell-labs.com>, David Presotto wrote: > Not to mention the fact that you have to send/receive on sockets > and read/write on everything else so that an app has to check > the type of any handles it is passed so that it can use the > right calls. Nor to mention the fact that you have to pclose on process streams and fclose on everything else so that an app has to check the type of any streams it is passed so that it can use the right calls. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 14 22:36:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 14 22:36:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 29866 invoked by uid 1020); 14 Jul 2003 22:36:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 29862 invoked from network); 14 Jul 2003 22:36:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 14 Jul 2003 22:36:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6659F19B56; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:36:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6340219B16; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:36:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 101F019A80; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:35:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1B93219A05 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:35:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6EDOCnp026141 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:24:19 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h6EDO9u0026140 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:24:09 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? Message-ID: <20030714152401.A7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: <006601c3471d$7a06de40$b9844051@insultant.net>, <85139cb0363c3b2b1f14746d68b9ff59@plan9.bell-labs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: ; from John Kodis on Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 08:51:34AM +0000 Organization: Proxima Research & Development Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:24:02 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 08:51:34AM +0000, John Kodis wrote: > > In article <85139cb0363c3b2b1f14746d68b9ff59@plan9.bell-labs.com>, > David Presotto wrote: > > > Not to mention the fact that you have to send/receive on sockets > > and read/write on everything else so that an app has to check > > the type of any handles it is passed so that it can use the > > right calls. > > Nor to mention the fact that you have to pclose on process streams and > fclose on everything else so that an app has to check the type of any > streams it is passed so that it can use the right calls. I thought the object oriented paradigm would at least be able to hide that from the programmer. Weird... ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 14 22:59:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 14 22:59:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 30429 invoked by uid 1020); 14 Jul 2003 22:59:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 30425 invoked from network); 14 Jul 2003 22:59:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 14 Jul 2003 22:59:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A95C919AB8; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:59:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0FADB19A91; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:59:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2309F19A9A; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:58:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-07.noos.net [212.198.2.76]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 42B5519A8C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:58:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22623702 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jul 2003 13:58:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.76 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 14 Jul 2003 13:58:49 -0000 Message-ID: <000901c34a10$0a79ea40$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <20030714152401.A7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:58:44 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I thought the object oriented paradigm would at least be able to hide > that from the programmer. Weird... one might like to think so. the problem stems from the fact that winsock was justa a bolt-on to windows 3 and it's always been like that. it never got integrated into the rest of the mess ['95/'98/NY] correctly. windows might have a lotta C++ in it but the 'syscall' interface is classic. it truly is a ghastly mess. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 14 23:23:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 14 23:23:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 30914 invoked by uid 1020); 14 Jul 2003 23:23:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 30910 invoked from network); 14 Jul 2003 23:23:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 14 Jul 2003 23:23:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B892519A91; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:23:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B711E19A91; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:23:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BAA9F19A9F; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:22:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1A94619A91 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:22:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sdn-ap-014castocp0260.dialsprint.net ([63.187.137.6] helo=acm.org) by hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19c4Dy-0003EJ-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 07:22:42 -0700 Message-ID: <3F12BCFD.8090203@acm.org> From: "D. Brownlee" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030712 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] new fonts, this time for real References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 07:23:57 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) andrey mirtchovski wrote: > I've put two of the newly converted fonts on the web, together with a test > file: > > http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~mirtchov/p9/fonts/ With X fonts, it seems to me that the lines are spaced too closely together. 10x20 seems alright, but the smaller ones, 8x13 and 7x13 look odd. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 14 23:29:27 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 14 23:29:27 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 31136 invoked by uid 1020); 14 Jul 2003 23:29:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 31132 invoked from network); 14 Jul 2003 23:29:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 14 Jul 2003 23:29:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E487419AB5; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:29:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DEFF1199EB; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:29:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DAC5319A9F; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:28:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.starcenter.tn.org (www.starcenter.tn.org [209.173.40.51]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DCD4A19A8C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:28:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.starcenter.tn.org (antares [127.0.0.1]) by mail.starcenter.tn.org (8.12.9/8.12.6/Debian-5) with ESMTP id h6EEYHYh029442 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:34:17 -0500 HX-RAV-AntiVirus: This e-mail has been scanned for viruses on host: mail.starcenter.tn.org Received: (from zfolkerts@localhost) by mail.starcenter.tn.org (8.12.9/8.12.6/Debian-6) id h6EEYH0X011694 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:34:17 -0500 From: zfolkerts@starcenter.tn.org To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: <20030714143417.GA24532@antares> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: [9fans] Enabling DMA causes newlines on console Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:34:17 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi, If I enable DMA on my disks I get blank lines on the console whenever I do disk I/O. Basically this prevents me from using rio while any I/O is happening. I think there may be a blank message echoed to the console in the IDE driver or somewhere. This does not happen if I do not have DMA enabled. This seems to happen even if I only enable DMA on one disk. It also seems to happen on both the onboard and offboard controllers. I have not yet done extensive testing(I set up this server yesterday), so I am unsure if this happens only with reads, writes or both. My setup is as follows: The onboard IDE is a VIA, it is one of the VT82C69xx chipsets. (I am not at the machine now, and I don't remember the exact #) The offboard IDE is a Promise Ultra 100. My disk layout looks like this: /dev/sdC0/fs 1Gb kfs (What I am currently booting from) /dev/sdC0/fossil 20Gb fossil /dev/fs/isect0 1Gb index /dev/sdE0/isect0 /dev/sdF0/isect0 /dev/fs/arenas0 17Gb arena /dev/sdE0/arenas0 /dev/sdF0/arenas0 So if I do this: # for (i in sdC0 sdE0 sdF0) echo 'dma on' > /dev/^$i^/ctl # con -l /srv/fscons prompt: main: snap -a A couple of seconds later, when the data is sent off to venti, I will get blank lines scroll through the center of my display, as if a message were being printed on the console, but no text appears. Any ideas as to the cause/prevention of this behavior? I never had DMA enabled on the previous fossil/venti fileserver that I had, so I have only seen this happen on this box. None of my other machines running Plan 9 have disks in them, so I have only seen this happen on this machine. Thanks, Zack Folkerts From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 14 23:35:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 14 23:35:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 31226 invoked by uid 1020); 14 Jul 2003 23:35:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 31222 invoked from network); 14 Jul 2003 23:35:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 14 Jul 2003 23:35:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A945319B16; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:35:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9959419A01; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:35:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 499A319A01; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:34:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 515D5199B6 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:34:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6EEYSeH027746 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 08:34:28 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6EEYSOZ027742 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 08:34:28 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Enabling DMA causes newlines on console In-Reply-To: <20030714143417.GA24532@antares> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 08:34:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 zfolkerts@starcenter.tn.org wrote: > If I enable DMA on my disks I get blank lines on the console whenever > I do disk I/O. Basically this prevents me from using rio while any > I/O is happening. I think there may be a blank message echoed to the > console in the IDE driver or somewhere. This does not happen if I do > not have DMA enabled. This seems to happen even if I only enable DMA on funny, this happens to me when I have DMA _disabled_... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 14 23:51:09 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 14 23:51:09 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 31538 invoked by uid 1020); 14 Jul 2003 23:50:53 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 31534 invoked from network); 14 Jul 2003 23:50:53 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 14 Jul 2003 23:50:53 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 41B71199F2; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:50:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 15A1519B08; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:50:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 93BAE19B1E; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:49:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EF6C2199F2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:49:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Enabling DMA causes newlines on console In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:50:38 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 zfolkerts@starcenter.tn.org wrote: > If I enable DMA on my disks I get blank lines on the console whenever > I do disk I/O. Basically this prevents me from using rio while any > I/O is happening. I think there may be a blank message echoed to the > console in the IDE driver or somewhere. This does not happen if I do > not have DMA enabled. This seems to happen even if I only enable DMA on do a simple test - bring the system up to a shell prompt (i.e. no window manager) - enable dma then dd from one of discs to /dev/null, see what happens. venti has a bad habit of writing to stdout/stderr. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 15 00:21:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 15 00:21:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 32065 invoked by uid 1020); 15 Jul 2003 00:21:23 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 32061 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2003 00:21:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 15 Jul 2003 00:21:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CB42E19A06; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:21:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6D15B19B26; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:21:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0DA1619ACD; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:20:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailrelay2.lanl.gov (mailrelay2.lanl.gov [128.165.4.103]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0578E19A06 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:20:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay2.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6EFKRXA030977 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:20:27 -0600 Received: from maxroach.lanl.gov (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6EFKRAO018020 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:20:27 -0600 From: ron minnich To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? In-Reply-To: <20030714152401.A7106@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.35 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:20:26 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Lucio De Re wrote: > I thought the object oriented paradigm would at least be able to hide > that from the programmer. Weird... The weirdest thing about the "OO paradigm" is how badly it is done in so many places. I was looking at one "OO" os. Floppy, disk, console, etc. were all different types of "objects", all accessed very differently. What's the point of OO if you do that type of thing? ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 15 00:49:38 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 15 00:49:38 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 32605 invoked by uid 1020); 15 Jul 2003 00:49:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 32601 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2003 00:49:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 15 Jul 2003 00:49:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4107719B34; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:49:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B155319A9A; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:49:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4D1F219B08; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:48:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6CECC199F0 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:48:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6EFmVeH028592 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:48:31 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6EFmVTt028588 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:48:31 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] fossil crash Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:48:31 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) disk: io=10011 at 0.790ms disk: io=10027 at 0.992ms disk: io=10030 at 0.774ms disk: io=10027 at 1.303ms disk: io=10000 at 1.349ms assert failed: b->nlock == 1 fossil 44: suicide: sys: trap: fault read addr=0x0 pc=0x0002b5af had to reboot the system (it didn't crash, but I wasn't able to run any commands, naturally)... the machine was up for about 5 days or so. writes to fossil go through /dev/fs. what's the best way of reporting this? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 15 00:55:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 15 00:55:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 301 invoked by uid 1020); 15 Jul 2003 00:55:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 32764 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2003 00:55:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 15 Jul 2003 00:55:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9938019B4B; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:55:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8111219B08; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:55:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5C25C19B1F; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:54:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6A55E19B08 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:54:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6EFsYeH028607 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:54:34 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6EFsY0K028603 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:54:34 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] fossil crash In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:54:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) sorry! i hate it when i give incomplete information. when that happened i was doing a sweeping rm -rf * on a two-level subdirectory. after the reboot it shows only half of the files being deleted. andrey On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, andrey mirtchovski wrote: > disk: io=10011 at 0.790ms > disk: io=10027 at 0.992ms > disk: io=10030 at 0.774ms > disk: io=10027 at 1.303ms > disk: io=10000 at 1.349ms > assert failed: b->nlock == 1 > fossil 44: suicide: sys: trap: fault read addr=0x0 pc=0x0002b5af > > had to reboot the system (it didn't crash, but I wasn't able to run any > commands, naturally)... the machine was up for about 5 days or so. > writes to fossil go through /dev/fs. > > what's the best way of reporting this? > From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 15 02:24:35 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 15 02:24:35 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 2080 invoked by uid 1020); 15 Jul 2003 02:24:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 2076 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2003 02:24:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 15 Jul 2003 02:24:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2E4D819B55; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 13:24:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EA36B19B09; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 13:24:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 636B419B26; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 13:23:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.starcenter.tn.org (www.starcenter.tn.org [209.173.40.51]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4E88219B09 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 13:23:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.starcenter.tn.org (antares [127.0.0.1]) by mail.starcenter.tn.org (8.12.9/8.12.6/Debian-5) with ESMTP id h6EHSNYh005335 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 12:28:23 -0500 HX-RAV-AntiVirus: This e-mail has been scanned for viruses on host: mail.starcenter.tn.org From: zfolkerts@mail.starcenter.tn.org Received: (from zfolkerts@localhost) by mail.starcenter.tn.org (8.12.9/8.12.6/Debian-6) id h6EHSNDS014538 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 12:28:23 -0500 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Enabling DMA causes newlines on console Message-ID: <20030714172823.GA13597@antares> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 12:28:23 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 10:50:38AM -0400, jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 zfolkerts@starcenter.tn.org wrote: > > If I enable DMA on my disks I get blank lines on the console whenever > > I do disk I/O. Basically this prevents me from using rio while any > > I/O is happening. I think there may be a blank message echoed to the > > console in the IDE driver or somewhere. This does not happen if I do > > not have DMA enabled. This seems to happen even if I only enable DMA on > > do a simple test - bring the system up to a shell prompt (i.e. no window > manager) - enable dma then dd from one of discs to /dev/null, see what happens. Well, I rebooted the box, and found that there was no longer a partition table on either of the drives attached to the Promise controller(lc /dev/sd[EF]0 only gives ctl data and raw). Other than that, these were the results: with dma on: /dev/sdC0 no newlines to console /dev/sd[EF]0 newlines to console with dma off: /dev/sdC0 newlines to console /dev/sd[EF]0 newlines to console Could enabling dma on the Promise controller have trashed the partition table? (I seem to remember a message to 9fans saying some controllers trash data with dma enabled) Also which controllers are recommended? I also have a Promise Ultra 66, and a CMD 640b(I haven't tried to use this under Plan 9 since it is so old). Luckily I have my fossil on the first drive in the system, so I don't have to recreate that, however I am curious whether I should just get rid of the offboard controller entirly making one of the drives slave to another. I had originally put the Ultra 100 in so I could keep all of my disks as masters. Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks, Zack Folkerts From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 15 09:39:46 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 15 09:39:46 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10576 invoked by uid 1020); 15 Jul 2003 09:39:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10572 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2003 09:39:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 15 Jul 2003 09:39:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4200719B17; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:39:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 169AE19AF5; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:39:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E56D019AD4; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:38:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4D5CD199FC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:37:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA05896 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:37:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Cross Received: (from cross@localhost) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) id h6F0bwq04666 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:37:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307150037.h6F0bwq04666@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] Dumb question. Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:37:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Don't shoot me. Does a Java implementation of 9p2000 exist? - Dan C. (Don't ask.) From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 15 09:53:14 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 15 09:53:14 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11170 invoked by uid 1020); 15 Jul 2003 09:53:12 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11165 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2003 09:53:11 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 15 Jul 2003 09:53:11 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 51D9D19AE9; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:52:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B7ACC19AE9; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:52:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id F180319AF3; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:51:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 57A0719A2C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:51:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6F0pXeH029788 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 18:51:33 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6F0pXUI029784 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 18:51:33 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1618459641-1116310329-1058229720=:29555" Content-ID: Subject: [9fans] more info on fossil crashes Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 18:51:33 -0600 (MDT) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---1618459641-1116310329-1058229720=:29555 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: The little script attached in this email manages to crash my fossil server with 100% reproducibility (i.e. 5 out of 5, I got sick of rebooting so I'm not trying anymore). The error message on the console is: [heavy io] disk: io=10000 at 0.991ms assert failed: b->nlock == 1 fossil 44: suicide: sys: trap: fault read addr=0x0 pc=0x0002b5af [here I usually reboot] The machine does not panic, it simply becomes unusable. The attachment: the attached archive includes a small program that I use to extract subfonts from a .bdf font file. It's a modified version of Skip Tavakkolian's bdf2subf. Also included is a sample .bdf file. The script 'runtest' will extract all glyphs from the .bdf file and save them in files named according to the range the subfont covers; after the extraction is complete the script will attempt to detele all subfont files and will cause my fossil to crash. Symptoms: I don't seem to lose any other data. Before deletion there are 5000+ files in the directory. After a reboot I usually find around 1600 still remaining. Setup: I run fossil over a two-disk mirror using devfs, the disks it mirrors to are 80GB Matrox IDE disks set up as sdC0 and sdD0, running with UDMA4. 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---1618459641-1116310329-1058229720=:29555-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 15 12:24:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 15 12:24:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 18278 invoked by uid 1020); 15 Jul 2003 12:24:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 18270 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2003 12:24:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 15 Jul 2003 12:24:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 274CD19B1C; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 23:24:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5223C19AEB; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 23:24:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id AF17819AEB; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 23:23:14 -0400 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 05:23:07 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Does a Java implementation of 9p2000 exist? Harry Callahan: But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya punk? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 15 13:02:45 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 15 13:02:45 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20286 invoked by uid 1020); 15 Jul 2003 13:02:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20281 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2003 13:02:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 15 Jul 2003 13:02:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 014A9199D1; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 00:02:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5C49919AC2; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 00:02:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D9A3619AEB; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 00:01:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.fywss.com (unknown [207.245.2.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E480419AC2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 00:01:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from steve@localhost) by smtp.fywss.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h6F414j26146 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 00:01:04 -0400 From: steve-9fans@fywss.com.ca Message-Id: <200307150401.h6F414j26146@smtp.fywss.com> X-Authentication-Warning: burly.fywss.com: steve set sender to steve-9fans@fywss.com.ca using -f To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] [reminder] pointer to Plan 9 FAQ Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 00:01:04 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) The Plan 9 faq is posted to comp.os.plan9 at the beginning of each month. It is also at news.answers archive sites, look for comp-os/plan9-faq The latest hypertext version of the faq is available at url http://www.fywss.com/plan9/plan9faq.html To reply directly to this message, remove the '.ca' from my address. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 15 14:17:44 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 15 14:17:44 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 23965 invoked by uid 1020); 15 Jul 2003 14:17:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 23945 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2003 14:17:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 15 Jul 2003 14:17:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5B6B119B20; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 01:17:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3483519A70; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 01:17:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 04F9A19A86; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 01:16:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgristroph-austin.ath.cx (cs24362-19.austin.rr.com [24.243.62.19]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 54B1D19A6D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 01:16:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgr by rgristroph-austin.ath.cx with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19cIC8-0000y3-00; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 00:17:44 -0500 From: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org (Rob Ristroph) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: <87vfu4mkqw.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> Lines: 26 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [9fans] Plan 9 install doesn't put the right MBR on the disk Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: 15 Jul 2003 00:17:43 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_GNUS_UA version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi, The current Plan 9 which you download from Bell Labs is uninstallable on a clean machine. It doesn't put the Master Boot Record on the disk during the install process, and various methods of writing an mbr (from another OS or from a Plan 9 floppy) make the boot process survive only a split second longer. Note that if you currently have a working Plan 9 on the disk, you have to wipe the MBR to replicate this problem. You can do this by booting a dos disk and doing fdisk /mbr or with dd. If you don't, you will install the latest Plan 9 and it will seem to work fine, but only because the MBR survived from your previous working setup. I have replicated this behaviour on two computers of my own, and even bought a brand new disk because I thought all my disks might be screwed; and on top of that I went to friend's house today and convinced him to take down his working Plan 9 and try a fresh install on a clean disk, and replicated it there also. --Rob From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 15 17:08:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 15 17:08:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 32260 invoked by uid 1020); 15 Jul 2003 17:08:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 32255 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2003 17:08:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 15 Jul 2003 17:08:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1E29F19B53; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 04:08:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 07CF619B2C; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 04:08:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6B2E119B2C; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 04:07:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nautilus.escet.urjc.es (nautilus.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.207]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 208ED19B1B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 04:07:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] new fonts, this time for real From: Fco.J.Ballesteros In-Reply-To: <3F12BCFD.8090203@acm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-rqftzzfryvxnzprqlcnlfykpwz" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:07:32 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-rqftzzfryvxnzprqlcnlfykpwz Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 6x13 looks fine, however. --upas-rqftzzfryvxnzprqlcnlfykpwz Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by aquamar; Mon Jul 14 16:23:27 MDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id ADAFA19B00; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:23:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B711E19A91; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:23:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BAA9F19A9F; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:22:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1A94619A91 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:22:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sdn-ap-014castocp0260.dialsprint.net ([63.187.137.6] helo=acm.org) by hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19c4Dy-0003EJ-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 07:22:42 -0700 Message-ID: <3F12BCFD.8090203@acm.org> From: "D. Brownlee" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030712 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] new fonts, this time for real References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 07:23:57 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) andrey mirtchovski wrote: > I've put two of the newly converted fonts on the web, together with a test > file: > > http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~mirtchov/p9/fonts/ With X fonts, it seems to me that the lines are spaced too closely together. 10x20 seems alright, but the smaller ones, 8x13 and 7x13 look odd. --upas-rqftzzfryvxnzprqlcnlfykpwz-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 15 17:54:45 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 15 17:54:45 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 2196 invoked by uid 1020); 15 Jul 2003 17:54:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 2191 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2003 17:54:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 15 Jul 2003 17:54:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 391C919B5A; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 04:54:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8AA3719B42; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 04:54:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 980EC19B43; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 04:53:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C6DEE19AA7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 04:53:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19cLPl-0003FP-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:44:01 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: bs Message-ID: <3F133F29.8090804@nospam.com> Organization: Comcast Online Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: , <20030714172823.GA13597@antares> Subject: Re: [9fans] Enabling DMA causes newlines on console Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 08:40:35 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Could enabling dma on the Promise controller have trashed the partition > table? From what I have heard, the Promise controller is a very naughty one. Even provisioning Windows via automated mechanisms are a problem. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 15 19:53:35 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 15 19:53:35 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 5796 invoked by uid 1020); 15 Jul 2003 19:53:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 5786 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2003 19:53:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 15 Jul 2003 19:53:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8F4C719B76; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 06:53:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4412F19B6B; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 06:53:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7A38819B6E; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 06:52:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9D19619B6B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 06:52:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19cND3-0005i1-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:39:01 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: "Douglas A. Gwyn" Message-ID: <2bydnZ0l9vKjSI6iXTWJhw@comcast.com> Organization: University of Bath Computing Services, UK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <87vfu4mkqw.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 install doesn't put the right MBR on the disk Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:38:20 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Rob Ristroph wrote: > The current Plan 9 which you download from Bell Labs is > uninstallable on a clean machine. It doesn't put the Master > Boot Record on the disk during the install process, ... It has been that way for at least a month.. Whenever I install (floppy+CD) a kit from back then I don't get a bootable Plan9 partition, and if I let the install process modify the partition table it wipes out my Solaris boot manager, usually making a "bad PBR Sig" (signature?). If I tell the installer to make a boot floppy, the resulting floppy can't boot the system. This is frustrating and annoying.. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 15 20:17:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 15 20:17:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 6558 invoked by uid 1020); 15 Jul 2003 20:17:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 6554 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2003 20:17:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 15 Jul 2003 20:17:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B5F4219B81; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 07:17:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E765F19B6D; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 07:17:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 440FC19B74; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 07:16:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5C330199BE for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 07:16:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: David Presotto To: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org, 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 install doesn't put the right MBR on the disk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-xglpitvkyhsbgugujnbtrxwuem" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 07:16:49 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-xglpitvkyhsbgugujnbtrxwuem Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I tried it on one yesterday and it put a working mbr on it. Perhaps I did something different. I copied /dev/zeros to the disk before starting to wipe out what was there. Is it asking you to install an MBR? --upas-xglpitvkyhsbgugujnbtrxwuem Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Tue Jul 15 01:17:29 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Tue Jul 15 01:17:27 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1C73219AEA; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 01:17:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0F89A19A6D; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 01:17:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 04F9A19A86; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 01:16:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgristroph-austin.ath.cx (cs24362-19.austin.rr.com [24.243.62.19]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 54B1D19A6D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 01:16:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgr by rgristroph-austin.ath.cx with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19cIC8-0000y3-00; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 00:17:44 -0500 From: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org (Rob Ristroph) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: <87vfu4mkqw.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> Lines: 26 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [9fans] Plan 9 install doesn't put the right MBR on the disk Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: 15 Jul 2003 00:17:43 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_GNUS_UA version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi, The current Plan 9 which you download from Bell Labs is uninstallable on a clean machine. It doesn't put the Master Boot Record on the disk during the install process, and various methods of writing an mbr (from another OS or from a Plan 9 floppy) make the boot process survive only a split second longer. Note that if you currently have a working Plan 9 on the disk, you have to wipe the MBR to replicate this problem. You can do this by booting a dos disk and doing fdisk /mbr or with dd. If you don't, you will install the latest Plan 9 and it will seem to work fine, but only because the MBR survived from your previous working setup. I have replicated this behaviour on two computers of my own, and even bought a brand new disk because I thought all my disks might be screwed; and on top of that I went to friend's house today and convinced him to take down his working Plan 9 and try a fresh install on a clean disk, and replicated it there also. --Rob --upas-xglpitvkyhsbgugujnbtrxwuem-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 15 22:03:44 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 15 22:03:44 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 9308 invoked by uid 1020); 15 Jul 2003 22:03:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 9304 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2003 22:03:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 15 Jul 2003 22:03:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9619719B80; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:03:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 422F819B70; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:03:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 250AB19B0B; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:02:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from achebe.arb (adsl-66-143-166-49.dsl.austtx.swbell.net [66.143.166.49]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5BBB819B71 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:02:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccsi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by achebe.arb (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2390704C9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 08:02:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F13FB76.721F2B2C@ccsi.com> From: nofreakingspam@ccsi.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.20-4GB i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 install doesn't put the right MBR on the disk References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 08:02:46 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) David Presotto wrote: > > I tried it on one yesterday and it put a working mbr on it. Perhaps > I did something different. I copied /dev/zeros to the disk before > starting to wipe out what was there. > > Is it asking you to install an MBR? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [9fans] Plan 9 install doesn't put the right MBR on the disk > Date: 15 Jul 2003 00:17:43 -0500 > From: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org (Rob Ristroph) > Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu > To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu > > Hi, > > The current Plan 9 which you download from Bell Labs is > uninstallable on a clean machine. > . . . Actually, the loader when on the HD seems to fail. I use a boot floppy made at install time and erased everything on it except 9load. The floppy boots, the loader goes to the HD for 9pcdisk and plan9.ini and the system is up and running. Someone put 9load out of its misery. Later, Bob -- bbourg-at-ccsi.com From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 15 22:08:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 15 22:08:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 9390 invoked by uid 1020); 15 Jul 2003 22:08:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 9385 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2003 22:08:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 15 Jul 2003 22:08:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0F9BE19B90; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:08:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 749C019B70; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:08:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 09AAE19B7A; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:07:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zephir.uk.clara.net (zephir.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.53]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 14ECF19B0B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:07:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from martin.althoff.claranet.co.uk ([213.253.17.40] helo=127.0.0.1) by zephir.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19cPWq-000E0P-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 14:07:36 +0100 From: Martin Althoff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <620180968.20030715140735@tiscali.co.uk> To: Rob Ristroph <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 install doesn't put the right MBR on the disk In-Reply-To: <87vfu4mkqw.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> References: <87vfu4mkqw.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: "martin.althoff" List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 14:07:35 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hello Rob Ristroph I'll join in on that experience. 2 main boards, 3 hdd's tested. I previously posted about partdisk being greedy... Hours of install atempts later.... Replicateable steps and work around: (with the aid of TomsRTBT linux 2.88 on CD) 1. Cleanup boot Linux (I use TomsRtbt), execute dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=1k count=10000 Zeroing just the mbr (bs=512 count=1) leads to the side effect later if the same partitions are created again, plan9 fdisk will find the old partitions. So the count value clobbers a bit more. Beware if you have other partitions!!!!! Does anyone know where plan9 keeps the "sub partitions info so I could kill that more "point blank"?? Then again prepdisk should not pick up historic entries... 2. partitions if you go to plan9 it cannot create partitions properly (as the others described: In my case creating a partition less than the total hdd size, resulted in the installer going back to partdisk. Inspecting what it had done from Linux fdisk, I found a partion entry which had the proper boundaries, but type set to "0". I tried lots of variants of that theme none worked. Even giving it the whole disk (20GB) is useless since the MBR does not work. Other fdisks (non plan9) cough up about the format of the entries at times. Soooo.... stay in Linux In Linux fdisk: create a new, blank partition table if working on a zeroed disk. Write that. Now create the partions for plan9 that you need. fdisk will set them to type 82 (linux) change that to type 39 (plan9, which fdisk knows) Write. Finished. 2b. You did not zero the disk since you are keeping other partitions: use Linux fdisk to create the partitions anyhow. It works. Don't rewrite the MBR from Plan9. 2c. using DOS fdisk /mbr creates a MBR that is only good for 2GB partitions. 3. Plan9 will be happy now continue with prepdisk, creating fs, swap,... It will see the partition you have created and set to type 39 All the best, Martin martin.althoff@tiscali.co.uk Written Tuesday, July 15, 2003 at 13:47:39 <<<<<================>>>>> Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 6:17:43 AM, you wrote: > Hi, > The current Plan 9 which you download from Bell Labs is > uninstallable on a clean machine. It doesn't put the Master > Boot Record on the disk during the install process, and > various methods of writing an mbr (from another OS or from a > Plan 9 floppy) make the boot process survive only a split > second longer. > Note that if you currently have a working Plan 9 on the disk, > you have to wipe the MBR to replicate this problem. You can > do this by booting a dos disk and doing fdisk /mbr or with > dd. If you don't, you will install the latest Plan 9 and > it will seem to work fine, but only because the MBR survived > from your previous working setup. > I have replicated this behaviour on two computers of my own, > and even bought a brand new disk because I thought all my > disks might be screwed; and on top of that I went to friend's > house today and convinced him to take down his working Plan 9 > and try a fresh install on a clean disk, and replicated it > there also. > --Rob From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 15 22:34:50 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 15 22:34:50 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10033 invoked by uid 1020); 15 Jul 2003 22:34:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10029 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2003 22:34:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 15 Jul 2003 22:34:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 026AD19B8B; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:34:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5968019B92; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:34:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9319E19B8B; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:33:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp805.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp805.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.184]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id A319219B83 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:33:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from adsl-67-38-31-8.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (HELO ameritech.net) (dbailey27@ameritech.net@67.38.31.8 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jul 2003 13:33:22 -0000 Message-ID: <3F1410D4.6060507@ameritech.net> From: northern snowfall User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020518 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 install doesn't put the right MBR on the disk References: <87vfu4mkqw.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> <2bydnZ0l9vKjSI6iXTWJhw@comcast.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:33:56 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA, X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > It has been that way for at least a month.. Yeh, it didn't bother me much last time I did a clean installation. I'm pretty sure something is just skipped in the inst scripts. I didn't feel the need to report since the solution is very simple. To rectify the situation I simply installed a mbr manually via the plan9 install floppy. It takes less than a second to do. Don http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 16 00:51:44 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 16 00:51:44 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13250 invoked by uid 1020); 16 Jul 2003 00:51:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13246 invoked from network); 16 Jul 2003 00:51:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 16 Jul 2003 00:51:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0014D19BCE; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:51:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7CE4F19BA9; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:51:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 44A5119BAE; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:50:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from achebe.arb (adsl-66-143-167-253.dsl.austtx.swbell.net [66.143.167.253]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8BE7C19BA7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:50:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccsi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by achebe.arb (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810BB704C9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:50:25 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F1422C0.15288D53@ccsi.com> From: nofreakingspam@ccsi.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.20-4GB i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 install doesn't put the right MBR on the disk References: <3F13FB76.721F2B2C@ccsi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:50:24 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) nofreakingspam@ccsi.com wrote: > Actually, the loader when on the HD seems to fail. I use a boot floppy > made at install time and erased everything on it except 9load. The > floppy boots, the loader goes to the HD for 9pcdisk and plan9.ini and > the system is up and running. Someone put 9load out of its misery. Wow, is my face red. I checked on the boot sequence and 9load is probably not the culprit. According to 9load(8) the boot sequence is: BIOS, MBR, PBS, 9load, kernel The PBS program may be the culprit. The last thing I see on a boot from the HD is "PBS..." then the machine recycles to reboot. From the floppy the boot continues and is OK. Question: How to verify and fix the PBS? Later, Bob -- bbourg-at-ccsi.com From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 16 01:10:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 16 01:10:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13575 invoked by uid 1020); 16 Jul 2003 01:10:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13571 invoked from network); 16 Jul 2003 01:10:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 16 Jul 2003 01:10:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A151819BB5; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 12:10:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3BA4C19B00; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 12:10:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E085B19B04; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 12:09:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4451819AB7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 12:09:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA22405 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 12:09:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h6FG9B708358 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 12:09:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307151609.h6FG9B708358@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 install doesn't put the right MBR on the disk In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:50:24 CDT." <3F1422C0.15288D53@ccsi.com> From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 12:09:11 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hmm, you might need to use pbslba. Just a guess. - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 16 07:14:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 16 07:14:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20861 invoked by uid 1020); 16 Jul 2003 07:14:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20857 invoked from network); 16 Jul 2003 07:14:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 16 Jul 2003 07:14:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2468519A9B; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:14:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4E58519A9D; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:14:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C04FD19AC5; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:13:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgristroph-austin.ath.cx (cs24362-19.austin.rr.com [24.243.62.19]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 25A6619A9B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:13:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgr by rgristroph-austin.ath.cx with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19cY4O-0001T2-00; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 17:14:48 -0500 From: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org (Rob Ristroph) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 install doesn't put the right MBR on the disk References: <87vfu4mkqw.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> <2bydnZ0l9vKjSI6iXTWJhw@comcast.com> <3F1410D4.6060507@ameritech.net> In-Reply-To: <3F1410D4.6060507@ameritech.net> Message-ID: <87brvvmo88.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: 15 Jul 2003 17:14:47 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_GNUS_UA version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >>>>> "northern" == northern snowfall writes: northern> >> It has been that way for at least a month.. northern> Yeh, it didn't bother me much last time I northern> did a clean installation. I'm pretty sure northern> something is just skipped in the inst northern> scripts. northern> northern> I didn't feel the need to report since the northern> solution is very simple. To rectify the northern> situation I simply installed a mbr manually northern> via the plan9 install floppy. northern> northern> It takes less than a second to do. Yes that occurred to me also; but booting from a floppy and doing "disk/mbr" or "disk/mbr -m /386/mbr /dev/sdC0/data" did not work. How did you put an mbr on the harddrive ? --Rob From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 16 07:20:41 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 16 07:20:41 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20934 invoked by uid 1020); 16 Jul 2003 07:20:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20930 invoked from network); 16 Jul 2003 07:20:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 16 Jul 2003 07:20:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D7AAA19BBF; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:20:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7AD8719AC5; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:20:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5526519AEA; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:19:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp809.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp809.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.188]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 0D97519AC5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:19:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from adsl-67-38-31-8.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (HELO ameritech.net) (dbailey27@ameritech.net@67.38.31.8 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jul 2003 22:19:54 -0000 Message-ID: <3F148C3F.9020304@ameritech.net> From: northern snowfall User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020518 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 install doesn't put the right MBR on the disk References: <87vfu4mkqw.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> <2bydnZ0l9vKjSI6iXTWJhw@comcast.com> <3F1410D4.6060507@ameritech.net> <87brvvmo88.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:20:31 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA, X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > >Yes that occurred to me also; but booting from a floppy and doing >"disk/mbr" or "disk/mbr -m /386/mbr /dev/sdC0/data" did not work. How >did you put an mbr on the harddrive ? > Same c-line for mbr. Then I redid the partitions. Don http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_ > From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 16 07:29:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 16 07:29:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21066 invoked by uid 1020); 16 Jul 2003 07:29:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21062 invoked from network); 16 Jul 2003 07:29:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 16 Jul 2003 07:29:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1445419BCD; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:29:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 22DF219AEA; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:29:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5361419B3C; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:28:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgristroph-austin.ath.cx (cs24362-19.austin.rr.com [24.243.62.19]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5039F19AC5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:28:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgr by rgristroph-austin.ath.cx with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19cYJD-0001U0-00; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 17:30:07 -0500 From: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org (Rob Ristroph) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 install doesn't put the right MBR on the disk References: <87vfu4mkqw.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> <620180968.20030715140735@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <620180968.20030715140735@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <87oezvl8y8.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: 15 Jul 2003 17:30:07 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_GNUS_UA version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >>>>> "Martin" == Martin Althoff writes: Martin> Martin> 2c. using DOS fdisk /mbr creates a MBR that is only good for Martin> 2GB partitions. You know, that explains a lot, because now I understand how I got Plan 9 working before -- I was playing around on a small, old disk, just 2 GB big. I was planing to re-install fresh on larger disks to experiment with a more permanent setup when I ran into this. --Rob From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 16 16:35:38 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 16 16:35:38 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13238 invoked by uid 1020); 16 Jul 2003 16:35:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13233 invoked from network); 16 Jul 2003 16:35:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 16 Jul 2003 16:35:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7370B19B3D; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 03:35:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2C72319B0D; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 03:35:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A2BED19B0D; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 03:34:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz (clusterb.asuch.cas.cz [147.231.136.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AF55719B05 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 03:34:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from picture ([147.231.139.42]) by XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:34:31 +0200 Message-ID: <003301c34b6c$b1fe9ab0$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> From: "pac" To: "9fans" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2003 07:34:31.0184 (UTC) FILETIME=[B206B100:01C34B6C] Subject: [9fans] gcc/plan9 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:34:31 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi, friends, I've got several questions considering GCC on Plan9: i) if (sscanf(str+(*pos),"%d",&tag)) [ on gcc/linux] ### != ### if (sscanf(str+(*pos),"%d",&tag)1) [ on gcc/plan9] ### instead == ### if (sscanf(str+(*pos),"%d",&tag)==1) [ on gcc/plan9] is this okay? ii) //is this possible/safe??? #ifndef Plan9 #include #else #include // otherwise, what to do ? iii) in case ii), where does string.h come from (it isn't in /sys/include/gnu/)? /sys/include/ape/?? Thanks, regards, ++pac. --- Odchozí zpráva neobsahuje viry. Zkontrolováno antivirovým systémem AVG (http://www.grisoft.cz). Verze: 6.0.476 / Virová báze: 273 - datum vydání: 24.4.2003 From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 16 16:38:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 16 16:38:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13482 invoked by uid 1020); 16 Jul 2003 16:38:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13477 invoked from network); 16 Jul 2003 16:38:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 16 Jul 2003 16:38:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D8E8D19B82; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 03:38:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 745EB19B60; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 03:38:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A62FF19B60; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 03:37:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 735A419B0A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 03:37:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <76bd7dcaf60606573d6f59e5fecca65c@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] What the reason of much change of rc(1) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:38:03 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I noticed today, so much of the sources of /sys/src/cmd/rc have been changed recently. Why? Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 16 17:00:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 16 17:00:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 14862 invoked by uid 1020); 16 Jul 2003 17:00:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 14717 invoked from network); 16 Jul 2003 16:58:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 16 Jul 2003 16:58:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C3D8319B6B; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 03:58:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 83DC919AFB; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 03:58:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A131919B3C; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 03:57:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nautilus.escet.urjc.es (nautilus.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.207]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AB25F19ADD for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 03:57:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 install doesn't put the right MBR on the disk From: Fco.J.Ballesteros In-Reply-To: <3F1422C0.15288D53@ccsi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:57:07 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Question: How to verify and fix the PBS? I don't have a machine to do that, but verifying is easy: try with a pbs from the worm to see if it works (actually, try with versions backward in time, going back a month at a time). If one works and the next does not, we could diff the source perhaps. It would be hard for me these days (a story to long to tell), but I can send whoever can test it a copy of the different pbss. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 16 22:27:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 16 22:27:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 24318 invoked by uid 1020); 16 Jul 2003 22:27:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 24314 invoked from network); 16 Jul 2003 22:27:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 16 Jul 2003 22:27:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 786DF19BB9; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:27:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B722619B9E; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:27:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 06DAE19BAF; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:26:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from achebe.arb (adsl-66-143-166-124.dsl.austtx.swbell.net [66.143.166.124]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4E15019B74 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:26:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccsi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by achebe.arb (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0516704CC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:26:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F15527F.A09B94B3@ccsi.com> From: nofreakingspam@ccsi.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.20-4GB i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 install doesn't put the right MBR on the disk References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:26:23 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) "Fco.J.Ballesteros" wrote: > > > Question: How to verify and fix the PBS? > > I don't have a machine to do that, but verifying is easy: > try with a pbs from the worm to see if it works (actually, try > with versions backward in time, going back a month at a time). > If one works and the next does not, we could diff the source perhaps. > > It would be hard for me these days (a story to long to tell), but I > can send whoever can test it a copy of the different pbss. Question: How to put [pbs | pbslba] on the HD of an already installed system? Maybe, something like: Backup the files in 9fat; disk/format -b /386/[pbs|pbslba] -df /dev/sdC0!9fat Restore the files to 9fat. Thanks, Bob -- bbourg-at-ccsi.com From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 17 00:46:42 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 17 00:46:42 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27566 invoked by uid 1020); 17 Jul 2003 00:46:41 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27562 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 00:46:41 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 00:46:41 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4212F19BB7; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:46:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A149E19B9E; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:46:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D45F619B40; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:45:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nautilus.escet.urjc.es (nautilus.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.207]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6661B19A82 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:45:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <6039a59b43aa88b69b70a97fe26b3af8@plan9.escet.urjc.es> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 install doesn't put the right MBR on the disk From: Fco.J.Ballesteros In-Reply-To: <3F15527F.A09B94B3@ccsi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-oixvvvafadzgggcxqrizfjiceo" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 17:45:32 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,RCVD_IN_ORBS, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-oixvvvafadzgggcxqrizfjiceo Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I always use something like disk/format -r 2 -d -b /386/pbslba \ /dev/$disk/9fat /n/kfs/386/9load --upas-oixvvvafadzgggcxqrizfjiceo Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by aquamar; Wed Jul 16 15:27:29 MDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 54B8719BC1; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:27:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B722619B9E; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:27:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 06DAE19BAF; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:26:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from achebe.arb (adsl-66-143-166-124.dsl.austtx.swbell.net [66.143.166.124]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4E15019B74 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:26:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccsi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by achebe.arb (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0516704CC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:26:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F15527F.A09B94B3@ccsi.com> From: nofreakingspam@ccsi.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.20-4GB i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 install doesn't put the right MBR on the disk References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:26:23 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) "Fco.J.Ballesteros" wrote: > > > Question: How to verify and fix the PBS? > > I don't have a machine to do that, but verifying is easy: > try with a pbs from the worm to see if it works (actually, try > with versions backward in time, going back a month at a time). > If one works and the next does not, we could diff the source perhaps. > > It would be hard for me these days (a story to long to tell), but I > can send whoever can test it a copy of the different pbss. Question: How to put [pbs | pbslba] on the HD of an already installed system? Maybe, something like: Backup the files in 9fat; disk/format -b /386/[pbs|pbslba] -df /dev/sdC0!9fat Restore the files to 9fat. Thanks, Bob -- bbourg-at-ccsi.com --upas-oixvvvafadzgggcxqrizfjiceo-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 17 00:52:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 17 00:52:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27725 invoked by uid 1020); 17 Jul 2003 00:52:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27721 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 00:52:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 00:52:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 937C319BBE; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:52:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9E3D819AB3; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:52:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6665119A82; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:51:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7DB6919AB3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:51:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6GFpeeH000856 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:51:40 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6GFpesG000852 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:51:40 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 install doesn't put the right MBR on the disk In-Reply-To: <6039a59b43aa88b69b70a97fe26b3af8@plan9.escet.urjc.es> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:51:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,RCVD_IN_ORBS,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) from http://plan9.bell-labs.com/magic/man2html/8/prep -- Initialize the blank hard disk /dev/sdC0/data: disk/mbr -m /386/mbr /dev/sdC0/data disk/fdisk -baw /dev/sdC0/data disk/prep -bw -a^(9fat fs cache swap) /dev/sdC0/plan9 disk/format -b /386/pbs -d -r 2 /dev/sdC0/9fat 9load 9pcdisk plan9.ini I use the last line whenever my 9fat partitions get mangled by devfs :) From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 17 09:11:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 17 09:11:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 4468 invoked by uid 1020); 17 Jul 2003 09:11:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 4464 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 09:11:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 09:11:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 335E319B70; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:11:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E16B119B10; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:11:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5D1C619AFB; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:10:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from collyer.net (cpu.collyer.net [63.192.14.226]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3763C19AD0 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:10:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <18e61d55c20c0b4c1a12231e91b0c831@collyer.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] gcc/plan9 From: Geoff Collyer In-Reply-To: <003301c34b6c$b1fe9ab0$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 17:10:52 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Testing that *scanf found exactly the number of items you expected is usually the right thing to do. scanf and fscanf can return EOF (-1), so a test against zero will usually be inappropriate. So the last example you gave, if (sscanf(str+(*pos),"%d",&tag)==1) should be used everywhere, including linux (and tag should be an int, not a long nor a short). strings.h is an archaism and shouldn't be needed nor included. All ANSI C implementations (hosted ones, anyway) must provide string.h, and it's been 13 years since the first ANSI C standard, so everybody really ought to have string.h by now. GNU configure and much GNU software go out of their way to support aged or deficient C implementations. I think it's no longer worth worrying about pre-ANSI implementations, except for amusement (e.g., running V7 on a PDP-11 simulator). As for broken implementations, with C News, we found that it was generally better not to contort our code to accommodate bugs in somebody's C implementation, but to publish the bug (perhaps including a pointer to the section of the current C standard that forbids the erroneous behaviour), a test case to demonstrate it, and a workaround, and to distribute the whole bundle widely. Once a vendor realises that it really is his bug and the customers know it and demand a fix, he tends to fix the bug pretty quickly. We found astonishing bugs in production C implementations, some of which had been around for a long time, and I think helped to get them fixed. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 17 09:16:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 17 09:16:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 4727 invoked by uid 1020); 17 Jul 2003 09:16:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 4723 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 09:16:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 09:16:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CAA2319B98; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:16:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E071F19B51; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:16:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CEE5C19B57; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:15:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-12.noos.net [212.198.2.83]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 033F619B36 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:15:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29148112 invoked by uid 0); 17 Jul 2003 00:15:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.83 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 17 Jul 2003 00:15:52 -0000 Message-ID: <006c01c34bf8$92c718c0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <18e61d55c20c0b4c1a12231e91b0c831@collyer.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] gcc/plan9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 02:15:47 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) never use scanf From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 17 09:25:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 17 09:25:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 5136 invoked by uid 1020); 17 Jul 2003 09:25:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 5132 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 09:25:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 09:25:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A6E0319BA8; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:25:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6546919B57; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:25:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id AD14219AC2; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:24:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-02.noos.net [212.198.2.71]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CF85619B57 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:24:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21603697 invoked by uid 0); 17 Jul 2003 00:24:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.71 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 17 Jul 2003 00:24:07 -0000 Message-ID: <007801c34bf9$ba248000$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <18e61d55c20c0b4c1a12231e91b0c831@collyer.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] gcc/plan9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 02:24:03 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) to quote Pere Ubu: But I don't need a cure D-don't need a cure D-don't need a cure I need a final solution -- http://www.secraterri.com/final.html write a lexical analyser and a parser, from scratch. _never cheat_ -- it will come back and bite you. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 17 09:36:42 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 17 09:36:42 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 5826 invoked by uid 1020); 17 Jul 2003 09:36:41 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 5817 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 09:36:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 09:36:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3E2FE19B8D; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:36:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E5DAE19AC2; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:36:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 06B7119B91; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:35:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from collyer.net (cpu.collyer.net [63.192.14.226]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EB53819AC2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:35:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <13fdf88296c90ea01a2defa55e0326c6@collyer.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] gcc/plan9 From: Geoff Collyer In-Reply-To: <006c01c34bf8$92c718c0$b9844051@insultant.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 17:35:02 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Good point; I rarely use scanf myself. I have implemented it as part of a larger stdio implementation though, and didn't take it too seriously at first, since I don't really use it and I hadn't seen it used much (e.g., if you grep the V7 source tree for it, there are few or no uses of it). One of my early testers countered that scanf was used `everywhere'; it turns out that X11 uses it heavily. Speaking of scanners, I found that somebody has modified flex to scan Unicode input (and cranked up the table sizes appropriately). I'm wondering if it's worth modifying it further to scan UTF-8 instead so it could be used instead of the sorts of tricks I've used to make lex scan UTF-8. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 17 09:41:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 17 09:41:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 6049 invoked by uid 1020); 17 Jul 2003 09:41:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 6045 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 09:41:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 09:41:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A6DE319BB4; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:41:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8632219ADD; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:41:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9FD3119ADD; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:40:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-03.noos.net [212.198.2.72]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AB94B199FC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:40:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29729713 invoked by uid 0); 17 Jul 2003 00:40:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.72 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 17 Jul 2003 00:40:21 -0000 Message-ID: <008201c34bfb$fe9ecb80$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <18e61d55c20c0b4c1a12231e91b0c831@collyer.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] gcc/plan9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 02:40:17 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > GNU configure and much GNU software go out of their way to support > aged or deficient C implementations. I think it's no longer worth > worrying about pre-ANSI implementations, except for amusement (e.g., > running V7 on a PDP-11 simulator). weird, i re-wrote ps(1) for 32V [vax] and V7 [pdp-11] and with a few ifdefs the code was pretty much the same. it even dealt with _lnodes_, which is specific to one site. it really wasn't that hard. finding the pages (the segment was trivial) for the stack was a bit interesting so you could print the args but infinitely better than that pus they put into SysVile. u.u_comm i can cope with, but that other crap ... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 17 09:50:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 17 09:50:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 6551 invoked by uid 1020); 17 Jul 2003 09:50:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 6547 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 09:50:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 09:50:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 32FFF19ADD; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:50:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7CFAB19BAF; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:50:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3056419ADD; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:49:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-03.noos.net [212.198.2.72]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 51DE0199FC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:49:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29853718 invoked by uid 0); 17 Jul 2003 00:49:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.72 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 17 Jul 2003 00:49:08 -0000 Message-ID: <008801c34bfd$38c74b60$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <13fdf88296c90ea01a2defa55e0326c6@collyer.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] gcc/plan9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 02:49:04 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Good point; I rarely use scanf myself. i've only even used scanf() when i new no better, after reading K&R. for toy tools [not programs] i've used sscanf() when i _knew_ what i was expecting, but a construct like: if (*scanf(...)) ; /* do something stupid */ well, crash and burn ... can i be more contrary? gimme a _final solution_ ... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 17 10:39:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 17 10:39:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 8989 invoked by uid 1020); 17 Jul 2003 10:39:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 8985 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 10:39:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 10:39:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3854019BB6; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:39:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1929019A77; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:39:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2C2DE19B67; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:38:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E71B219A77 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:38:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] What the reason of much change of rc(1) From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: <76bd7dcaf60606573d6f59e5fecca65c@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:38:55 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I noticed today, so much of the sources of /sys/src/cmd/rc > have been changed recently. > Why? I reexamined it this morning, and found most changes are only for coding style or habit âş except of adding a file of havefork.c. Probably for generalization of codes for various operating systems... Then, now, I'm convinced rc(1) has not been changed. âş Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 17 11:11:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 17 11:11:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10322 invoked by uid 1020); 17 Jul 2003 11:11:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10318 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 11:11:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 11:11:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1545419BC5; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:11:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2A79619B84; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:11:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 17B3419B84; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:10:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6B6DC19AC2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:10:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Wed Jul 16 22:10:54 EDT 2003 Received: from 209.23.14.25 ([209.23.14.25]) by plan9; Wed Jul 16 22:10:51 EDT 2003 Message-ID: <5f9238aeb651f621030bbcc5bf017170@plan9.bell-labs.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] gcc/plan9 From: "Russ Cox" In-Reply-To: <13fdf88296c90ea01a2defa55e0326c6@collyer.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:07:09 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Speaking of scanners, I found that somebody has modified flex to scan > Unicode input (and cranked up the table sizes appropriately). I'm > wondering if it's worth modifying it further to scan UTF-8 instead so > it could be used instead of the sorts of tricks I've used to make lex > scan UTF-8. I did a lot of the work toward this, without cranking table sizes too much, but I didn't really want to deal with the lex syntax. Russ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 17 11:23:42 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 17 11:23:42 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10852 invoked by uid 1020); 17 Jul 2003 11:23:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10848 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 11:23:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 11:23:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 42C7019BBA; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3CC9B19B91; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:23:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EFC1619B91; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:22:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 53B9719B67 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:22:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00254 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:22:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h6H2M2715827 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:22:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307170222.h6H2M2715827@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] gcc/plan9 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:07:09 EDT." <5f9238aeb651f621030bbcc5bf017170@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:22:02 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I really would like to see lex (or an evolution of it) brought up to speed with respect to the modern world. The idea of a lexical analyser generator is a good one, even if the implementation is a little behind the times. - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 17 11:32:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 17 11:32:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11301 invoked by uid 1020); 17 Jul 2003 11:32:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11295 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 11:32:22 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 11:32:22 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7C48219BC6; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:32:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1782519B99; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:32:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 790F419BC6; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:31:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from holo.morphisms.net (holo.morphisms.net [66.93.84.55]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B43CC19B67 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:31:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mero.morphisms.net (mero.morphisms.net [66.93.84.246]) by holo.morphisms.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B21324FAC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:31:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mero.morphisms.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2994F288; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:31:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:31:35 -0400 From: William Josephson To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] gcc/plan9 Message-ID: <20030717023135.GB10157@mero.morphisms.net> References: <006c01c34bf8$92c718c0$b9844051@insultant.net> <13fdf88296c90ea01a2defa55e0326c6@collyer.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <13fdf88296c90ea01a2defa55e0326c6@collyer.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-No-archive: yes Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 05:35:02PM -0700, Geoff Collyer wrote: > Speaking of scanners, I found that somebody has modified flex to scan > Unicode input (and cranked up the table sizes appropriately). I'm > wondering if it's worth modifying it further to scan UTF-8 instead so > it could be used instead of the sorts of tricks I've used to make lex > scan UTF-8. Per usual, both Russ and I have very similar code that will deal with this without bloating the tables too much. I was using it for a different, more specialized purpose and since I never use lex with C, I didn't actually bother to update lex: "The asteroid to kill this dinosaur is still in orbit." From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 17 11:34:16 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 17 11:34:16 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11436 invoked by uid 1020); 17 Jul 2003 11:34:16 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11432 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 11:34:15 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 11:34:15 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D627A19BCA; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:34:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4E14B19B84; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:34:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B384B19B99; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:33:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from holo.morphisms.net (holo.morphisms.net [66.93.84.55]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 01F5A19B67 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:33:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mero.morphisms.net (mero.morphisms.net [66.93.84.246]) by holo.morphisms.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D2C24FE9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:33:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mero.morphisms.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B916B296; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:33:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:33:09 -0400 From: William Josephson To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] gcc/plan9 Message-ID: <20030717023309.GC10157@mero.morphisms.net> References: <5f9238aeb651f621030bbcc5bf017170@plan9.bell-labs.com> <200307170222.h6H2M2715827@augusta.math.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200307170222.h6H2M2715827@augusta.math.psu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-No-archive: yes Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 10:22:02PM -0400, Dan Cross wrote: > I really would like to see lex (or an evolution of it) brought up > to speed with respect to the modern world. The idea of a lexical > analyser generator is a good one, even if the implementation is a > little behind the times. I suppose, but who uses lex with C anymore? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 17 11:45:50 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 17 11:45:50 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11979 invoked by uid 1020); 17 Jul 2003 11:45:39 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11975 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 11:45:39 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 11:45:39 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9863719B99; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:45:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7DEE419BA0; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:45:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 701D519BA0; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:44:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BD83319B84 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:44:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA02837 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:44:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h6H2i1715934 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:44:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307170244.h6H2i1715934@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] gcc/plan9 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:33:09 EDT." <20030717023309.GC10157@mero.morphisms.net> From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:44:01 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I suppose, but who uses lex with C anymore? Well, probably no one. But the question is whether this is due to it being a bad idea, or because lex fell out of maintenance and suffered bitrot? I think if the syntax were revamped and it were extended to deal with utf-8, it'd be a powerful tool and gain favor once again. - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 17 11:58:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 17 11:58:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12501 invoked by uid 1020); 17 Jul 2003 11:58:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12494 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 11:58:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 11:58:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D550C19BDA; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:58:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 989F319BA0; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:58:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 68B1119BAE; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:57:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-12.noos.net [212.198.2.83]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 873E419B84 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:57:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 29203185 invoked by uid 0); 17 Jul 2003 02:57:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.83 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 17 Jul 2003 02:57:34 -0000 Message-ID: <00f601c34c0f$29bedae0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <200307170244.h6H2i1715934@augusta.math.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] gcc/plan9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 04:57:30 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > I suppose, but who uses lex with C anymore? > > Well, probably no one. i think it was an interesting idea, but didn't really give you anything much over coding it my hand. yacc gave you a lot, but the error recovery was awful. however, given that rc's grammar was implemented in yacc it described the 'language'. iirc many 'normal' bourne shell constructions worked, but nobody knew why, and then there was the shell-gol. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 17 12:00:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 17 12:00:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12647 invoked by uid 1020); 17 Jul 2003 12:00:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12640 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 12:00:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 12:00:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2D92019BBC; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 23:00:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F303B19BA0; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 23:00:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2D93F19BA0; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:59:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailnw.centurytel.net (mailnw.centurytel.net [209.206.160.237]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 332C819B84 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:59:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from laptopvmw.9netics.com ([64.91.109.37]) by mailnw.centurytel.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6H2xp6t009455 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 19:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] gcc/plan9 From: "Skip Tavakkolian" In-Reply-To: <20030717023309.GC10157@mero.morphisms.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 19:59:45 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I suppose, but who uses lex with C anymore? I cut/paste/modify the lexer out of awk or something else (8c, etc). It seems like at times lex forces you to unnaturally fit things into its model. I've often wondered if an specialized language with an expression syntax that lends itself to this type of work wouldn't be better. Awk is nearly there. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 17 14:30:40 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 17 14:30:40 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 19358 invoked by uid 1020); 17 Jul 2003 14:30:38 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 19353 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 14:30:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 14:30:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7092C19B10; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 01:30:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C80A419AF4; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 01:30:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 91CBB19B10; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 01:29:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2EB8219AE8 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 01:29:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <06d4e4a17483e1524a94ef3d8fe909fa@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [9fans] how to make coexit fossil+venti and fs Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:29:17 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I'm now going to make fossil+venti fileserver to our Plan 9 network, because now I'm in the summer vacation season lastly. âş I have make strategy at first how to make the two file sertvers coexit in our Plan 9 network, and I'm wondering it now. If the fossil+venti is believed to be robust as comparable as release 4 file server, I have no hesitation on this decision. When I downloaded the sources two days ago, considerable amounts of venti and fossil sources were changed. Furthermore, I suppose Bell-Labs is still using Release 4 file server as their primary file server. Then, I think I should hold our present file server further. In this case, I have to install new fossil+venti into a temporal machine which also has local kfs filesystem. The new fossil+ venti will be used only from that very machine in this case, which is mostly for testing environment of new fossil+venti system. However, I'm not a kernel/operating system person... What is your configuration of this situation out there? Any other recommendations to me? Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 17 14:54:44 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 17 14:54:44 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20285 invoked by uid 1020); 17 Jul 2003 14:53:54 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20258 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 14:53:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 14:53:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 74C0519A02; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 01:53:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5716C19A23; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 01:53:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B3074199FC; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 01:52:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B18E319A02 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 01:52:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6H5qQeH006903 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 23:52:26 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6H5qQlp006899 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 23:52:26 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] gave up on devfs Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 23:52:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Finally gave up on devfs -- will think of another way of making sure my file server survives a disk crash (I'm open to suggestions). I booted a kernel that doesn't use devfs and the problem with deleting files went away. Unfortunately not before it caused some general mayhem and corruption: plan9% pwd /usr/andrey/font/efont plan9% f | wc -l 851 plan9% ls b12_bi b16 b24_b plan9% cd b16 plan9% ls b16.81F7-8202 plan9% rm * rm: b16.81F7-8202: 'b16.81F7-8202' corrupted file entry plan9% I can't delete those, tried even 'remove' on the fossil console. can't copy anything over them ('file already exists') either. I don't think I've had a file system screwed that badly since I removed /usr on a FreeBSD system when I was a toddler. Good thing is, all those terrible crashes didn't corrupt any other data and the machine still stands (sans devfs :) andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 17 15:00:05 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 17 15:00:05 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20558 invoked by uid 1020); 17 Jul 2003 14:59:47 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20547 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 14:59:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 14:59:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DA52B19BCF; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 01:59:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D0A2F19A98; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 01:59:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 09C2219B9E; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 01:58:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 081C519A2A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 01:58:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6H5vmeH006917 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 23:57:48 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6H5vmin006913 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 23:57:48 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] how to make coexit fossil+venti and fs In-Reply-To: <06d4e4a17483e1524a94ef3d8fe909fa@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 23:57:48 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) the easiest way for me was to install venti/fossil on a separate machine and move all data to it. after my confidence in the new venti/fossil system had increased to a comfortable level I just made it the main file server. no users and no really important data in my case, and I still keep a kfs disk handy -- I break things quite often. andrey On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp wrote: > I'm now going to make fossil+venti fileserver to our > Plan 9 network, because now I'm in the summer vacation > season lastly. âş > > I have make strategy at first how to make the two file sertvers > coexit in our Plan 9 network, and I'm wondering it now. > > If the fossil+venti is believed to be robust as comparable as > release 4 file server, I have no hesitation on this decision. > When I downloaded the sources two days ago, considerable > amounts of venti and fossil sources were changed. Furthermore, > I suppose Bell-Labs is still using Release 4 file server as their > primary file server. > > Then, I think I should hold our present file server further. > In this case, I have to install new fossil+venti into a temporal > machine which also has local kfs filesystem. The new fossil+ > venti will be used only from that very machine in this case, > which is mostly for testing environment of new fossil+venti > system. However, I'm not a kernel/operating system person... > > What is your configuration of this situation out there? > Any other recommendations to me? > > Kenji > From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 17 15:04:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 17 15:04:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20779 invoked by uid 1020); 17 Jul 2003 15:04:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20773 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 15:04:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 15:04:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DE2A519BD7; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 02:04:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B8CE919BAE; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 02:04:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D273619BD2; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 02:03:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F310419BAE for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 02:03:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6H63VeH006933 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:03:31 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6H63Vs7006929 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:03:31 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] gave up on devfs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:03:31 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, andrey mirtchovski wrote: > I booted a kernel that doesn't use devfs and the problem with deleting > files went away. > I lied, it's still there. Sorry to waste your time so optimistically. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 17 15:45:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 17 15:45:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 23808 invoked by uid 1020); 17 Jul 2003 15:45:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 23804 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 15:45:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 15:45:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 77D9719BDD; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 02:45:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5A6D919A98; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 02:45:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7123319A98; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 02:44:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz (clusterb.asuch.cas.cz [147.231.136.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7A303199D5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 02:44:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from picture ([147.231.139.42]) by XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:44:19 +0200 Message-ID: <001001c34c2e$d9a67fc0$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> From: "pac" To: "9fans" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2003 06:44:19.0954 (UTC) FILETIME=[D99B3520:01C34C2E] Subject: [9fans] silly graphics Q Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:44:19 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Just curious: [graph | map] | plot --> rio [grap] | pic | troff | gs --> rio why do we have this strange dichotomy? if it is necessary [the dichotomy], do we have something like plot2pic??? (man plot(6) says: Open & Close o string Open plotting device. For troff, string specifies the size of the plot (default is `6i'). however this is too brief explanation for me :-( to be able to utilize it was DisplayPostScript (from NeXT) a bad idea? Or the [grap] | pic | troff | gs --> rio way if just want to see what you draw without feedback loop... So, can I get PostScript out of map(1) somehow? ++pac . --- Odchozí zpráva neobsahuje viry. Zkontrolováno antivirovým systémem AVG (http://www.grisoft.cz). Verze: 6.0.476 / Virová báze: 273 - datum vydání: 24.4.2003 From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 17 16:44:45 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 17 16:44:45 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 26243 invoked by uid 1020); 17 Jul 2003 16:44:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 26239 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 16:44:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 16:44:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A9DF019BE5; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 03:44:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4AF8D19BDB; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 03:44:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D7A7419BD5; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 03:43:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nautilus.escet.urjc.es (nautilus.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.207]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id ECDCE19BAF for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 03:43:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] how to make coexit fossil+venti and fs From: Fco.J.Ballesteros In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:43:25 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >> If the fossil+venti is believed to be robust as comparable as >> release 4 file server, I have no hesitation on this decision. Well, in may case, it has proven to be as robust. We have being using it during a whole semester in production. We have replaced our 3rd ed. worm (which is now spare) with a venti/fossil/fs server. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 17 16:45:23 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 17 16:45:23 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 26290 invoked by uid 1020); 17 Jul 2003 16:45:23 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 26286 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 16:45:22 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 16:45:22 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5088A19BE3; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 03:45:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A4EC519BDB; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 03:45:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4162419BDB; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 03:44:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nautilus.escet.urjc.es (nautilus.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.207]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DE7DF19BAF for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 03:44:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <6ffd6892771415251e72ee2f179434f6@plan9.escet.urjc.es> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] gave up on devfs From: Fco.J.Ballesteros In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-ieetvzepgxqyvwoigetdrfanhe" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:44:54 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-ieetvzepgxqyvwoigetdrfanhe Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This sounds weird for me. I'll try to reproduce your devfs+9fat problem here and see if I can fix it. --upas-ieetvzepgxqyvwoigetdrfanhe Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by aquamar; Thu Jul 17 07:53:24 MDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 63D7319BA0; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 01:53:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5716C19A23; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 01:53:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B3074199FC; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 01:52:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B18E319A02 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 01:52:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6H5qQeH006903 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 23:52:26 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6H5qQlp006899 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 23:52:26 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] gave up on devfs Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 23:52:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Finally gave up on devfs -- will think of another way of making sure my file server survives a disk crash (I'm open to suggestions). I booted a kernel that doesn't use devfs and the problem with deleting files went away. Unfortunately not before it caused some general mayhem and corruption: plan9% pwd /usr/andrey/font/efont plan9% f | wc -l 851 plan9% ls b12_bi b16 b24_b plan9% cd b16 plan9% ls b16.81F7-8202 plan9% rm * rm: b16.81F7-8202: 'b16.81F7-8202' corrupted file entry plan9% I can't delete those, tried even 'remove' on the fossil console. can't copy anything over them ('file already exists') either. I don't think I've had a file system screwed that badly since I removed /usr on a FreeBSD system when I was a toddler. Good thing is, all those terrible crashes didn't corrupt any other data and the machine still stands (sans devfs :) andrey --upas-ieetvzepgxqyvwoigetdrfanhe-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 17 23:38:40 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 17 23:38:40 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 6815 invoked by uid 1020); 17 Jul 2003 23:38:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 6811 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 23:38:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 23:38:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D829819BC8; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:38:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 242CB19AE7; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:38:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 669B119B6F; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:37:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 898B419AD0 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:37:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <6af263ecf0dd5c8acd58afb98cf074ff@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] What the reason of much change of rc(1) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-ihsvwwiygmvifcrwabgvmkjrbz" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:37:08 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-ihsvwwiygmvifcrwabgvmkjrbz Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I did indeed reformat it. I was making a version that would work both on windows and unix/plan9 and got angry at the formating style. The have{nt}fork.c was indeed for os's without fork. --upas-ihsvwwiygmvifcrwabgvmkjrbz Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Wed Jul 16 21:39:29 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Wed Jul 16 21:39:26 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C27DA19B92; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:39:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B4A2019B8A; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:39:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2C2DE19B67; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:38:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E71B219A77 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:38:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] What the reason of much change of rc(1) From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: <76bd7dcaf60606573d6f59e5fecca65c@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:38:55 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I noticed today, so much of the sources of /sys/src/cmd/rc > have been changed recently. > Why? I reexamined it this morning, and found most changes are only for coding style or habit =E2=98=BA except of adding a file of havefork.c. Probably for generalization of codes for various operating systems... Then, now, I'm convinced rc(1) has not been changed. =E2=98=BA Kenji --upas-ihsvwwiygmvifcrwabgvmkjrbz-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 00:19:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 00:19:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 7827 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 00:19:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 7823 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 00:19:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 00:19:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D437E19995; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:19:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7068B19AE7; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:19:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 82D6019AE7; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:18:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-10.noos.net [212.198.2.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 995AC199E1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:18:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 100169350 invoked by uid 0); 17 Jul 2003 15:18:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ntmail.noos.fr) ([195.132.21.190]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.81 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 17 Jul 2003 15:18:45 -0000 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030717165551.00ab4950@pop.noos.fr> X-Sender: philippe.anel@pop.noos.fr X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Philippe Anel Subject: Re: [9fans] What the reason of much change of rc(1) In-Reply-To: <6af263ecf0dd5c8acd58afb98cf074ff@plan9.bell-labs.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 17:17:00 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) At 10:37 17/07/03 -0400, you wrote: >I did indeed reformat it. I was making a version that would work >both on windows and unix/plan9 and got angry at the formating style. > >The have{nt}fork.c was indeed for os's without fork. Hi, I suggest you to read "Windows NT/2000: Native API reference" by Gary Nebbett (ISBN: 1-57870-199-6). It contains the set of system services provided by the Window NT executive (the native syscall interface). Even though it only works with NT(2k/xp) kernels, the book contains the source code for a Un*x-like fork. The NT executive has a lot similarities with the M*ch kernel and the IO subsystem is entierly object oriented. That being said, the main problem is the Win32 API. All system objects are files, processes, threads, events or ports. Even sockets are handled as files (TDI). Philippe. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 01:15:49 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 01:15:49 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 9007 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 01:15:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 9003 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 01:15:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 01:15:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 76BD619B1D; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:15:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E7137199E4; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:15:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C93E6199EB; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:14:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DE1D9199E3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:14:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6HGDueH007639 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:13:56 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6HGDu2d007635 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:13:56 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] bind -c[ab] -- what am I doing wrong? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:13:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) It is my understanding that a bind() should be "commutative" with respect to before/after, i.e.: bind -cb new old <==> bind -ca old new why does the following create fail? plan9% bind -cb $home/kern/cmd /sys/src/cmd plan9% touch /sys/src/cmd/blah # expected to succeed plan9% ls -l $home/kern/cmd/blah --rw-rw-r-- M 159 andrey andrey 0 Jul 17 10:06 /usr/andrey/kern/cmd/blah plan9% unmount /sys/src/cmd plan9% rm $home/kern/cmd/blah plan9% bind -ca /sys/src/cmd $home/kern/cmd plan9% touch $home/kern/cmd/blah # expected to succeed touch: /usr/andrey/kern/cmd/blah: cannot create: permission denied plan9% touch /sys/src/cmd/blah # expected to fail touch: /sys/src/cmd/blah: cannot create: permission denied plan9% who's to blame? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 01:15:56 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 01:15:56 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 9016 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 01:15:55 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 9010 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 01:15:46 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 01:15:46 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DF80E19BE0; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:15:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BBB3E19BD2; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:15:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A5EC719AE7; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:14:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from galapagos.cse.psu.edu (galapagos.cse.psu.edu [130.203.12.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 27B6C199E4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:14:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8804 invoked by uid 991); 17 Jul 2003 16:14:49 -0000 Message-ID: <20030717161449.8803.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] What the reason of much change of rc(1) In-reply-to: <6af263ecf0dd5c8acd58afb98cf074ff@plan9.bell-labs.com> References: <6af263ecf0dd5c8acd58afb98cf074ff@plan9.bell-labs.com> Comments: In-reply-to David Presotto message dated "Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:37:08 -0400." From: Scott Schwartz Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:14:49 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) | I did indeed reformat it. I was making a version that would work | both on windows and unix/plan9 and got angry at the formating style. There's always Byron's rc. It does one thing that I really like: lists can be broken across lines without trailing backslashes: foo=( stuff stuff stuff more more more ) echo $foo Very handy for cutting and pasting. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 01:42:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 01:42:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 9458 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 01:42:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 9454 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 01:42:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 01:42:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8ED9F19BD2; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:42:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5074C19B14; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:42:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D6B8F19AE7; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:41:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp800.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp800.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.179]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id C665619B14 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:41:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from adsl-67-38-31-8.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (HELO ameritech.net) (dbailey27@ameritech.net@67.38.31.8 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 16:41:51 -0000 Message-ID: <3F16E003.3040806@ameritech.net> From: northern snowfall User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020518 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Cc: andrey mirtchovski , dbailey27@ameritech.net Subject: Re: [9fans] bind -c[ab] -- what am I doing wrong? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:42:27 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA, X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > >who's to blame? > You are! Binds make a list of directories like a linked list chain. Our operations on these directories can always be considered one of two primaries: read or write. Respectively, we can think as the first link in the chain as the link we Read from: cpu% cd cpu% mkdir testme cpu% cat > testme/u.h << EOF hello! EOF cpu% bind -bc testme /386/include cpu% wc -l /386/include/u.h 1 /386/include/u.h cpu% cat /386/include/u.h hello! cpu% unmount /386/include Or, we Read from the first bound directory that contains the file we've requested access to. So, if 'testme' didn't contain an u.h, the Read would return /386/include/u.h, despite testme being bound 'before' /386/include/u.h. Writes always take effect in the first directory we have permission to write to in the chain. Most often this is the last link in the chain: cpu% bind -ac testme /386/include/ cpu% touch /386/include/foo cpu% ls -l testme/foo --rw-rw-r-- M 2265 snowfall snowfall 0 Jul 17 11:35 testme/foo cpu% unmount /386/include cpu% So, if multiple directories we can write to were bound 'after' our primary unwritable, we write to the first: cpu% bind -ac /tmp /386/include cpu% bind -ac testme /386/include cpu% touch /386/include/foo2 cpu% ls -l /tmp/foo2 --rw-rw-r-- M 2265 snowfall snowfall 0 Jul 17 11:38 /tmp/foo2 cpu% Hope that helps! Don http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_ > From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 01:49:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 01:49:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 9578 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 01:49:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 9574 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 01:49:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 01:49:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8961719BDB; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:49:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1C16819AD3; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:49:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1181919AD3; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:48:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rapido.vitanuova.com (unknown [62.254.170.97]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 164E5199E4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:48:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5b671d750f4fa72e8e01eee94926586b@vitanuova.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] What the reason of much change of rc(1) From: rog@vitanuova.com In-Reply-To: <20030717161449.8803.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 17:51:19 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > There's always Byron's rc. It does one thing that I really like: > lists can be broken across lines without trailing backslashes: interesting: i never knew byron's rc did that, though i used it for years. i did the same thing in the inferno shell. actually, that's the only line continuation mechanism in the inferno shell; i never saw a pressing need for backslashes... (although one thing i liked about es, an rc relative, was that you could use backslash escapes, e.g. echo one line\nand another literal newlines screw up my indentation, so i often end up setting $nl to a single newline character. ) > Very handy for cutting and pasting. also for using the output of pipelines, e.g. ls | grep -v '\.(tgz|tar\.gz)' edit further as appropriate, bung "files=(" at the top of the output, and ")" at the bottom, Send, and script at will. actually, that's probably what you were thinking of... i do miss this in rc sometimes. BTW, byron's rc probably has too many subtle differences from the real rc to be considered a possible alternative for interpreting plan 9 scripts. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 01:57:43 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 01:57:43 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 9771 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 01:57:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 9767 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 01:57:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 01:57:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id F355019BE6; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:57:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A2ACA19B14; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:57:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id AB85A19BAF; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:56:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-05.noos.net [212.198.2.74]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CC09E19AD3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:56:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11861237 invoked by uid 0); 17 Jul 2003 16:54:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.74 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 17 Jul 2003 16:54:53 -0000 Message-ID: <00a201c34c84$21ea40a0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030717165551.00ab4950@pop.noos.fr> Subject: Re: [9fans] What the reason of much change of rc(1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 18:54:48 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > All system objects are files, processes, threads, events or ports. > Even sockets are handled as files (TDI). that may well be the case, but i have a 'bad feeling' about trying trick or mess with the Win32 API, by going behind its back. as i've mentioned before the 'kernel' knows about who's calling what and if it doesn't like it, well you're SOL. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 02:11:40 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 02:11:40 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 9922 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 02:11:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 9918 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 02:11:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 02:11:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 22BE819BEC; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:11:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 45DEA19B14; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:11:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0D60419AE7; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:10:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1431E19B14 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:10:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6HHA8eH007782 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:10:08 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6HHA8qm007778 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:10:08 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] bind -c[ab] -- what am I doing wrong? In-Reply-To: <3F16E003.3040806@ameritech.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:10:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, northern snowfall wrote: > > Hope that helps! > well, it doesn't. what you describe is the bahaviour of the command according to the man page. but here's what I observe: plan9% touch kern/test # clearly I can write to it plan9% rm kern/test plan9% bind -ac /sys kern plan9% touch kern/test # but not anymore touch: kern/test: cannot create: permission denied plan9% plan9% unmount kern plan9% bind -ac kern /sys plan9% touch /sys/blah # this works as expected plan9% given the man page i expect 'bind -ac new /something/i/can/write/to' to allow me to continue to write to '/something/i/can/write/to'. in fact, I expect to be able to write to '/something/i/can/write/to' irregardless of whether it corresponds to 'new', 'old', is bound before or bound after a directory. the only case when I wouldn't expect to be able to write to it is when I'm not able to walk to it because of a bind -b earlier in the walk. in functional languages this technique is used as a formal proof of a program's correctness, observe this example from the haskell prelude: -- Minimal complete definition: (==) or (/=) x == y = not (x/=y) x /= y = not (x==y) a similar definition for 'bind' would be: bind -cb new old == bind -ca old new where, of course, we consider only the resulting directory, and not the path to it. andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 02:21:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 02:21:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10034 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 02:21:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10030 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 02:21:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 02:21:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8159019BEF; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:21:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7750419B13; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:21:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C8A6319BAF; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:20:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-04.noos.net [212.198.2.73]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DEC3A19AE7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:20:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30469817 invoked by uid 0); 17 Jul 2003 17:18:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.73 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 17 Jul 2003 17:18:28 -0000 Message-ID: <00b901c34c87$6d509780$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] bind -c[ab] -- what am I doing wrong? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 19:18:22 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) union directories are a linked list. - open finds you the first file in the list bound directories, in the order they were bound [before/after] - create choose the first directory which allows creation, in the order they were bound [before/after] the order they were bound is not temporal, it's where you bind them. it's that easy. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 02:31:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 02:31:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10208 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 02:31:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10204 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 02:31:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 02:31:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4015B19BF0; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:31:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9B50519B14; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:31:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9B47D19B13; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:30:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plg2.math.uwaterloo.ca (plg2.math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.200]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BAD0B19B14 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:30:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rcbilson@localhost) by plg2.math.uwaterloo.ca (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) id NAA16848 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:30:54 -0400 From: Richard C Bilson Message-Id: <200307171730.NAA16848@plg2.math.uwaterloo.ca> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] bind -c[ab] -- what am I doing wrong? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:30:54 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > From: andrey mirtchovski > > given the man page i expect 'bind -ac new /something/i/can/write/to' to > allow me to continue to write to '/something/i/can/write/to'. Here's my guess. To quote bind(1): When a new file is created in a union directory, it is placed in the first element of the union that has been bound or mounted with the -c flag. If that directory does not have write permission, the create fails. In your example, you're creating a new union directory by binding "new" with the -c flag. The union has two directories, and only "new" has been bound with -c. If you don't have write permission to "new", the create will fail. One might expect some other result in the case where the second argument is not already a union directory, but then again one might expect the current behavior. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 02:35:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 02:35:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10265 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 02:35:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10261 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 02:35:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 02:35:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 95B9519BE2; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:35:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 80FBC19BD3; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:35:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A1C3419BAA; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:34:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C0AA819B9E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:34:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6HHYPeH007822 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:34:25 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6HHYPU6007818 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:34:25 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] bind -c[ab] -- what am I doing wrong? In-Reply-To: <00b901c34c87$6d509780$b9844051@insultant.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:34:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, boyd, rounin wrote: > it's that easy. > how easy is that then: plan9% ls -l | grep 'tmp|kern' d-rwxrwxr-x M 113 andrey andrey 0 Jul 17 10:53 kern d-rwxrwxr-x M 113 andrey andrey 0 Jul 17 11:32 tmp plan9% bind -ac /sys kern plan9% touch kern/blah touch: kern/blah: cannot create: permission denied plan9% bind -ac /sys tmp plan9% touch tmp/blah plan9% From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 02:36:23 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 02:36:23 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10287 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 02:36:23 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10283 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 02:36:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 02:36:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 49C4B19BD3; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:36:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E0D5219BAD; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:36:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0EEE019BF5; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:35:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 00E1E19BD3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:35:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] bind -c[ab] -- what am I doing wrong? In-Reply-To: <00b901c34c87$6d509780$b9844051@insultant.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-pssqulwlekjwzaevlmmjdcikcp" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:35:29 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-pssqulwlekjwzaevlmmjdcikcp Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The confusing part may be the implicit bind that happens when you do bind -ca /sys/src/cmd $home/kern/cmd The resulting mount point has to things in the link list bound there: /sys/src/cmd - containing the create flag $home/kern/cmd - not containing the create flag The latter is implicit since you were binding -a onto a directory. You would have gotten the semantics you wanted if you had said instead: bind -c $home/kern/cmd $home/kern/cmd bind -ca /sys/src/cmd $home/kern/cmd --upas-pssqulwlekjwzaevlmmjdcikcp Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Thu Jul 17 13:21:27 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Thu Jul 17 13:21:24 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E9E9219BDC; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:21:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2FA2919AE7; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:21:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C8A6319BAF; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:20:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-04.noos.net [212.198.2.73]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DEC3A19AE7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:20:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30469817 invoked by uid 0); 17 Jul 2003 17:18:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.73 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 17 Jul 2003 17:18:28 -0000 Message-ID: <00b901c34c87$6d509780$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] bind -c[ab] -- what am I doing wrong? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 19:18:22 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) union directories are a linked list. - open finds you the first file in the list bound directories, in the order they were bound [before/after] - create choose the first directory which allows creation, in the order they were bound [before/after] the order they were bound is not temporal, it's where you bind them. it's that easy. --upas-pssqulwlekjwzaevlmmjdcikcp-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 02:38:27 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 02:38:27 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10344 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 02:38:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10340 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 02:38:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 02:38:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id AD50719BAD; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:38:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8F17419BF6; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:38:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4B9E019BAD; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:37:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 65D9319B46 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:37:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <190716c9e9a396963a2edafb70ee01eb@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] bind -c[ab] -- what am I doing wrong? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-pfzhqnbqtplqxhsiumznmnxtzu" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:37:12 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-pfzhqnbqtplqxhsiumznmnxtzu Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit tmp is already a union directory (I'm assuming) so that the plan9% bind -ac /sys tmp is binding a directory with create permissions behind a mount point that already has a directory with create permissions. --upas-pfzhqnbqtplqxhsiumznmnxtzu Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Thu Jul 17 13:35:25 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Thu Jul 17 13:35:23 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 75F0819B46; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:35:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4D5F719B46; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:35:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A1C3419BAA; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:34:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C0AA819B9E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:34:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6HHYPeH007822 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:34:25 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6HHYPU6007818 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:34:25 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] bind -c[ab] -- what am I doing wrong? In-Reply-To: <00b901c34c87$6d509780$b9844051@insultant.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:34:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, boyd, rounin wrote: > it's that easy. > how easy is that then: plan9% ls -l | grep 'tmp|kern' d-rwxrwxr-x M 113 andrey andrey 0 Jul 17 10:53 kern d-rwxrwxr-x M 113 andrey andrey 0 Jul 17 11:32 tmp plan9% bind -ac /sys kern plan9% touch kern/blah touch: kern/blah: cannot create: permission denied plan9% bind -ac /sys tmp plan9% touch tmp/blah plan9% --upas-pfzhqnbqtplqxhsiumznmnxtzu-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 02:47:43 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 02:47:43 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10476 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 02:47:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10471 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 02:47:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 02:47:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EA26B19BFA; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:47:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AE46D19BD5; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:47:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E804219B46; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:46:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-07.noos.net [212.198.2.76]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 071E519BAF for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:46:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24896011 invoked by uid 0); 17 Jul 2003 17:46:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.76 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 17 Jul 2003 17:46:00 -0000 Message-ID: <00e201c34c8b$45758280$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] bind -c[ab] -- what am I doing wrong? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 19:45:53 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > plan9% bind -ac /sys kern > plan9% touch kern/blah > touch: kern/blah: cannot create: permission denied you don't have PERMISSION -- read the message. > plan9% touch tmp/blah i creates a file called blah in tmp -- nothing to do with sys. i'm going to stollys ... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 02:50:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 02:50:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10555 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 02:50:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10551 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 02:50:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 02:50:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 64BD919BD5; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:50:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AE16419BF3; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:50:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A268B19A1F; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:49:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-11.noos.net [212.198.2.82]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4685919B9E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:49:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 110624208 invoked by uid 0); 17 Jul 2003 17:38:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.82 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 17 Jul 2003 17:38:24 -0000 Message-ID: <00c901c34c8a$35910480$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <5b671d750f4fa72e8e01eee94926586b@vitanuova.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] What the reason of much change of rc(1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 19:38:18 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > BTW, byron's rc probably has too many subtle differences > from the real rc to be considered a possible alternative for > interpreting plan 9 scripts. yeah, it'd need an OS/360'n size effort. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 03:08:51 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 03:08:51 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10906 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 03:08:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10902 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 03:08:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 03:08:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2B03F19C01; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:08:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 94ECF19BAF; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:08:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3A59919BDC; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:07:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5D2B319BA5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:07:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6HI7KeH007877 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:07:20 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6HI7KUp007873 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:07:20 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] bind -c[ab] -- what am I doing wrong? In-Reply-To: <00e201c34c8b$45758280$b9844051@insultant.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:07:20 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, boyd, rounin wrote: > you don't have PERMISSION -- read the message. > read my mail. i was EXPECTING to have permission. as usual, those who knew what's happening explained it clearly enough, thanx Dave. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 03:16:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 03:16:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11008 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 03:16:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11004 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 03:16:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 03:16:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EA47A19BFB; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:16:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4F9B519C06; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:16:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 504D919BDC; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:15:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ensim.rackshack.net (unknown [216.127.72.23]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7FFFC19BF3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:15:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from infernopark.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated (0 bits)) by ensim.rackshack.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6HJTR620018 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:29:27 -0400 Received: from 135.214.42.162 (SquirrelMail authenticated user vdharani@infernopark.com) by www.infernopark.com with HTTP; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:29:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <28791.135.214.42.162.1058470167.squirrel@www.infernopark.com> From: To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> In-Reply-To: References: X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [9fans] Laptop and VM software Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:29:27 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.9 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,MISSING_MIMEOLE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME, NO_REAL_NAME,RCVD_IN_NJABL,RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM, REFERENCES,X_NJABL_OPEN_PROXY version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi, I am planning to buy a laptop. I want to install Win, Linux and Plan 9. Can you please suggest what VM software I should go for? VMware or Virtual PC? Also, can you suggest what model I should go for? IBM T23? Or better Txx model? Or someother brand/model? I kind-of figured from the mailing list and Wiki pages that T23 and VMware 4.0 are the ones I should go for but I just want to make sure. Any help appreciated. Thanks dharani From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 03:35:45 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 03:35:45 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11350 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 03:35:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11346 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 03:35:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 03:35:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4C90F19C0C; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:35:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5E36519C04; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:35:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BD7AB19BF5; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:34:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 22ECD19B9E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:34:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <53d09c64c314eb2c75ac4aee7d17b778@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Laptop and VM software In-Reply-To: <28791.135.214.42.162.1058470167.squirrel@www.infernopark.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:34:04 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thu Jul 17 14:16:28 EDT 2003, vdharani@infernopark.com wrote: > Hi, > > I am planning to buy a laptop. I want to install Win, Linux and Plan 9. > > Can you please suggest what VM software I should go for? VMware or Virtual > PC? > > Also, can you suggest what model I should go for? IBM T23? Or better Txx > model? Or someother brand/model? > > I kind-of figured from the mailing list and Wiki pages that T23 and VMware > 4.0 are the ones I should go for but I just want to make sure. > > Any help appreciated. > > Thanks > dharani Even the T23 is not uniform. We have ones with the internal Intel 82557 ethernet controller, the T23 is also available with an internal 3Com controller and, if I remember correctly, there was a problem with that. VMware is the only choice. Virtual PC doesn't implement the PC it says it does and Plan 9 finds that out. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 03:54:43 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 03:54:43 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11572 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 03:54:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11568 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 03:54:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 03:54:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 874DF19C04; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:54:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EBEB719B9E; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:54:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0418419BF8; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:53:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0C36D19B4C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:53:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6HIroeH008010 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:53:50 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6HIrolO008006 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:53:50 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] cron and timesync Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:53:50 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) There is a race between the cron daemon and timesync that hit me pretty badly for the past two days. The problem comes from the fact that timesync does not set the system's real-time clock. On one of the machines here the RTC was behind a few hours, so when it went through /rc/bin/cpurc the following happened: ... # time set by rtc (1am) aux/timesync -n ntp.ucalgary.ca # time still 1am ... auth/cron # time still 1am ... ... # after a few (micro)seconds the time # is reset to the current time (say # 10am) as reported by the ntp server cron gets initialized with 'last' time being 1am and the next time it wakes up it tries to run all cron jobs in between 1am and 10am, effectively crashing my machine. i have modified timesync.c and added a -w option to write to /dev/rtc, but then decided it'd be simple to run 'date -n > /dev/rtc' once daily from cron. in the example below cron started some 2000 jobs: % date; date -n Thu Jul 17 12:36:55 MDT 2003 1058467015 % echo 1057467015 > /dev/rtc % aux/timesync -r % date Sat Jul 5 22:50:24 MDT 2003 % auth/cron % ps | grep cron bootes 648 0:00 0:00 172K Sleep cron % aux/timesync -n ntp.cpsc.ucalgary.ca % date Thu Jul 17 12:38:11 MDT 2003 % % date -n > /dev/rtc # otherwise it'll happen again on reboot % # wait a minute or so ... andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 04:09:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 04:09:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11874 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 04:09:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11870 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 04:09:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 04:09:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5789419C06; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:09:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9412419B14; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:09:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3812F19B4C; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:08:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp803.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp803.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.182]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 43E9819AE7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:08:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from adsl-67-38-31-8.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (HELO ameritech.net) (dbailey27@ameritech.net@67.38.31.8 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 19:08:30 -0000 Message-ID: <3F170262.90707@ameritech.net> From: northern snowfall User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020518 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andrey mirtchovski Cc: 9fans@cse.psu.edu, northern snowfall Subject: Re: [9fans] bind -c[ab] -- what am I doing wrong? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:09:06 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > >well, it doesn't. what you describe is the bahaviour of the command >according to the man page. but here's what I observe: > Yeh, and what is in the man page is what happens in usage: but only in my examples. See, this is why I shouldn't get to check mail until I've had my cranberry juice. This is what really seems to happen: The first directory bound into another forces the first to inherit the second's creation properties. Thus, when we bind a directory of ours onto a system file, we maintain write access. However, when a file that we do not have write access to is bound into a directory we do have write access to, the permissions inherited deny creation. This is your example, Andrey. Though, we can easily remedy this situation by binding a writable directory over the unwritable: cpu% bind -ac /sys/src/cmd try cpu% touch try/hello touch: try/hello: cannot create: access permission denied cpu% mkdir try2 cpu% bind -ac try2 try cpu% touch try/hello touch: try/hello: cannot create: access permission denied cpu% unmount try2 try cpu% bind -bc try2 try cpu% touch try/hello cpu% wc -l try/unmount.c 26 try/unmount.c cpu% So the chain context persists, yet is not refinfluenced by the preemptive bind. However, this doesn't change the state of 'try'. Its permissions are still influenced by the first bound directory. Our perception sees creation is allowed, and that is all we technically care about. Though, files are generated under the second bound directory: cpu% unmount try cpu% ls -l try/hello ls: try/hello: 'try/hello' does not exist cpu% ls -l try2/hello --rw-rw-r-- M 2278 snowfall snowfall 0 Jul 17 13:49 try2/hello cpu% Don http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 04:23:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 04:23:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12201 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 04:23:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12197 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 04:23:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 04:23:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C60A319C09; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C5E8019B4C; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:23:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7BDD919B96; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:22:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rapido.vitanuova.com (unknown [62.254.170.97]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8ECC619A65 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:22:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <66e17ca3544b3b475439dbd93f5999f7@vitanuova.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] cron and timesync From: rog@vitanuova.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 20:26:07 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > ... # time set by rtc (1am) > aux/timesync -n ntp.ucalgary.ca # time still 1am > ... > auth/cron # time still 1am i came across this problem in for another reason, and my assessment was not that /dev/rtc wasn't being set (after all, everything reads /dev/time, not /dev/rtc), but that aux/timesync returns immediately without having synced the time. it wouldn't be hard to do: it just requires a little synchronisation between the forked process and its parent. i'm afraid i didn't get around to it (story of my life!). From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 04:48:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 04:48:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12539 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 04:48:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12535 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 04:48:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 04:48:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 595D019B47; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:48:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id ACCE619BF8; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:48:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 83B4019B47; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:47:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D1A5319AD0 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:47:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA08309 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:47:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h6HJll719842 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:47:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307171947.h6HJll719842@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] cron and timesync In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:53:50 MDT." From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:47:47 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > i have modified timesync.c and added a -w option to write to /dev/rtc, but > then decided it'd be simple to run 'date -n > /dev/rtc' once daily from > cron. It is easier, except that the RTC may be up to a second off. If you don't care about one second, it's not a big deal. If you do, writing a little C program that updates the RTC when it hits the leading edge of a second isn't hard. - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 05:22:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 05:22:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13023 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 05:22:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13019 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 05:22:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 05:22:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4F2BA19BF3; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:22:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 33BAB19AD2; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:22:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 02C0319B12; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:21:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from collyer.net (collyer.net [63.192.14.226]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F201E19AD2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:21:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] cron and timesync From: Geoff Collyer In-Reply-To: <200307171947.h6HJll719842@augusta.math.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:21:34 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I invoke this function early in cpurc: fn timesync { aux/timesync -nl -d /sys/log/timesync.d -a 100000 $* # the alpha port currently has no #r if (test -e '#r/rtc') @ { sleep 600 # let ntp do its thing awk '{print $1}' /dev/time >'#r/rtc' # fix the hardware clock } & } I don't start cron until I've started venti and fossil, and that takes long enough that timesync should have reset /dev/time by then. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 05:58:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 05:58:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13564 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 05:58:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13560 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 05:58:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 05:58:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 87BB319BFD; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:58:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 339A919B12; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:58:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4C0B619B14; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:57:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6F62B19A92 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:57:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <6c37aa960563b3fd6c70cfa2788d1339@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] cron and timesync In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-kdnvmfbxzlkfnsmenadmoqdsmq" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:57:39 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-kdnvmfbxzlkfnsmenadmoqdsmq Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I changed timesync to not background until it's tried at least once to sync up. That means you'll be within 10 seconds of real time when it returns if it managed to find a time source; timesync just sets the time if off by more than 10 seconds and tries to sneak up on the correct time otherwise. I could wait for time to get within the accuracy limit, but that could take a while. 10 seconds should be good enough for the reported problem. --upas-kdnvmfbxzlkfnsmenadmoqdsmq Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Thu Jul 17 16:22:27 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Thu Jul 17 16:22:25 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BDBFD19B9E; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:22:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D553319B13; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:22:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 02C0319B12; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:21:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from collyer.net (collyer.net [63.192.14.226]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F201E19AD2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:21:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] cron and timesync From: Geoff Collyer In-Reply-To: <200307171947.h6HJll719842@augusta.math.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:21:34 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I invoke this function early in cpurc: fn timesync { aux/timesync -nl -d /sys/log/timesync.d -a 100000 $* # the alpha port currently has no #r if (test -e '#r/rtc') @ { sleep 600 # let ntp do its thing awk '{print $1}' /dev/time >'#r/rtc' # fix the hardware clock } & } I don't start cron until I've started venti and fossil, and that takes long enough that timesync should have reset /dev/time by then. --upas-kdnvmfbxzlkfnsmenadmoqdsmq-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 07:03:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 07:03:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 14630 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 07:03:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 14626 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 07:03:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 07:03:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 023A319B69; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 18:03:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E955419B12; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 18:03:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A534419B48; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 18:02:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alchar.org (alchar.org [66.92.236.138]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id F3DDB19A1F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 18:02:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12699 invoked by uid 100); 17 Jul 2003 22:02:40 -0000 From: Kris Van Hees To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: <20030717180240.F16922@alchar.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Subject: [9fans] Looking for some sources Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 18:02:40 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) It seems that there are no sources included in the Plan9 4th Ed release for the aux/vmmousepoll and aux/vmwarefs binaries (unless I am looking in the wrong places). Are they available anywhere, or are they closed sources in agreement with VMWare? I'm mainly interested in them from a curiosity perspective since I worked on trying to get Plan9 to run in VMWare a couple of years ago myself. Kris -- Never underestimate a Mage with: - the Intelligence to cast Magic Missile, - the Constitution to survive the first hit, and - the Dexterity to run fast enough to avoid being hit a second time. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 13:22:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 13:22:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 30767 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 13:22:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 30763 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 13:22:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 13:22:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 19F9E19C13; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 00:22:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8BF0619AAA; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 00:22:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 227B919AAA; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 00:21:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ALPHA1.ITS.MONASH.EDU.AU (alpha1.its.monash.edu.au [130.194.1.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 25D1E19A7A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 00:21:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from blammo.its.monash.edu.au ([130.194.1.74]) by vaxc.its.monash.edu.au (PMDF V6.1 #39306) with ESMTP id <01KYEO2OAFSA9FRZDP@vaxc.its.monash.edu.au> for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:21:11 +1000 Received: from blammo.its.monash.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB9212C00F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:21:11 +1000 (EST) Received: from ajft.org (nbk-9978.its.monash.edu.au [130.194.3.170]) (user ajft) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blammo.its.monash.edu.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0938812C00E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:21:11 +1000 (EST) From: Adrian Tritschler Subject: Re: [9fans] Laptop and VM software In-reply-to: <53d09c64c314eb2c75ac4aee7d17b778@plan9.bell-labs.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-id: <3F1775B1.3090904@ajft.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,zh,zh-CN,zh-TW User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030716 References: <53d09c64c314eb2c75ac4aee7d17b778@plan9.bell-labs.com> Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:21:05 +1000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote: >On Thu Jul 17 14:16:28 EDT 2003, vdharani@infernopark.com wrote: > > >>Hi, >> >>I am planning to buy a laptop. I want to install Win, Linux and Plan 9. >> >>Can you please suggest what VM software I should go for? VMware or Virtual >>PC? >> >>Also, can you suggest what model I should go for? IBM T23? Or better Txx >>model? Or someother brand/model? >> >>I kind-of figured from the mailing list and Wiki pages that T23 and VMware >>4.0 are the ones I should go for but I just want to make sure. >> >>Any help appreciated. >> >>Thanks >>dharani >> >> > >Even the T23 is not uniform. We have ones with the internal Intel 82557 ethernet >controller, the T23 is also available with an internal 3Com controller and, if I >remember correctly, there was a problem with that. > That'd be my[1] IBM T21. :-( Plan9's 3com driver doesn't work with the "3Com 10/100 Mini PCI Ethernet Adapter" that was supplied with it. It's not really a case of "internal vs external" controller, both are internal mini-PCI cards, one works, one doesn't. If anyone can give me any hints on making it work, or how to debug a network card driver, I'm all ears... >VMware is the only choice. Virtual PC doesn't implement the PC it says it does and plan 9 finds that out. > Adrian [1] my employer's T21, provided for "work and work-related purposes" From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 16:54:44 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 16:54:44 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 9429 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 16:54:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 9425 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 16:54:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 16:54:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CA4BF19AB4; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 03:54:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4D59C19BF6; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 03:54:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CDD6C19BF7; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 03:53:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ensim.rackshack.net (unknown [216.127.72.23]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0907919AB4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 03:53:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from infernopark.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated (0 bits)) by ensim.rackshack.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6I97X621940 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 05:07:33 -0400 Received: from 12.212.89.166 (SquirrelMail authenticated user vdharani@infernopark.com) by www.infernopark.com with HTTP; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 05:07:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33045.12.212.89.166.1058519253.squirrel@www.infernopark.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] Laptop and VM software From: To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3F1775B1.3090904@ajft.org> References: <3F1775B1.3090904@ajft.org> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 05:07:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,MISSING_MIMEOLE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME, NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,RCVD_IN_NJABL, RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, X_NJABL_OPEN_PROXY version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi, > Plan9's 3com driver doesn't work with the "3Com 10/100 Mini PCI > Ethernet Adapter" that was supplied with it. It's not really a case of > "internal vs external" controller, both are internal mini-PCI cards, > one works, one doesn't. > > If anyone can give me any hints on making it work, or how to debug a > network card driver, I'm all ears... This could be a dumb question. If it is Mini PCI card, why cant you replace it with an 82557 card? Is availability an issue? Regards dharani From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 17:27:46 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 17:27:46 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10762 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 17:27:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10754 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 17:27:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 17:27:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1EE5B19BDF; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 04:27:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DB5E919BD1; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 04:27:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 20DA019BF5; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 04:26:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ALPHA8.ITS.MONASH.EDU.AU (alpha8.its.monash.edu.au [130.194.1.8]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2223D19BD1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 04:26:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from blammo.its.monash.edu.au ([130.194.1.74]) by vaxh.its.monash.edu.au (PMDF V5.2-31 #39306) with ESMTP id <01KYEWKC9KAY9C6C1C@vaxh.its.monash.edu.au> for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 18:24:29 +1000 Received: from blammo.its.monash.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23E812C00B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 18:24:29 +1000 (EST) Received: from ajft.org (nbk-9978.its.monash.edu.au [130.194.3.170]) (user ajft) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blammo.its.monash.edu.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C07D12C009 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 18:24:29 +1000 (EST) From: Adrian Tritschler Subject: Re: [9fans] Laptop and VM software In-reply-to: <33045.12.212.89.166.1058519253.squirrel@www.infernopark.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-id: <3F17AEBB.9030500@ajft.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030716 X-Accept-Language: en,zh,zh-CN,zh-TW References: <3F1775B1.3090904@ajft.org> <33045.12.212.89.166.1058519253.squirrel@www.infernopark.com> Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 18:24:27 +1000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) vdharani@infernopark.com wrote: > Hi, >>Plan9's 3com driver doesn't work with the "3Com 10/100 Mini PCI >>Ethernet Adapter" that was supplied with it. It's not really a case of >>"internal vs external" controller, both are internal mini-PCI cards, >>one works, one doesn't. >>If anyone can give me any hints on making it work, or how to debug a >>network card driver, I'm all ears... > This could be a dumb question. If it is Mini PCI card, why cant you replace > it with an 82557 card? Is availability an issue? *I* could, if it belonged to me, but the PC belongs to my employer and was purchased for my work, which involves running Windows (in various flavours) and supporting NetWare and Windows servers. Any plan9 installation on it is purely for my own enjoyment and education, it falls under the "reasonable personal use" clause of the IT Acceptable Use Policy. I've got three begged/borrowed bits of equipment that run plan9 in their spare time, none of them belong to me. Two desktop PCs, neither of which can run rio properly due to Trio3d oddities, and a laptop with working video but no network. It's educational, there's a log of what I do sitting on the boxes at http://ws-cl-28-g09-a.its.monash.edu.au/ I'm sure that a working 3com driver on the T21 would help others as well. There's also a Pentium133 at home that really does belong to me, and once there's a new distribution CD that lets me build venti/fossil at install time I'll give that one a try... A thought I had as a final part of the install routine, some way of sending a report back to the developers of "here's a working machine with xyz hardware, pci.txt, etc.." > Regards > dharani Adrian From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 17:54:35 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 17:54:35 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11764 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 17:54:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11760 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 17:54:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 17:54:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4BC0419C20; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 04:54:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 268E919BF9; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 04:54:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C2A3819BF9; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 04:53:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DD90919B2D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 04:53:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19dQvF-00077l-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:49:01 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Clint Olsen Message-ID: Organization: Comcast Online References: <5f9238aeb651f621030bbcc5bf017170@plan9.bell-labs.com>, <200307170222.h6H2M2715827@augusta.math.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] gcc/plan9 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 08:45:28 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article <200307170222.h6H2M2715827@augusta.math.psu.edu>, Dan Cross wrote: > I really would like to see lex (or an evolution of it) brought up to > speed with respect to the modern world. The idea of a lexical analyser > generator is a good one, even if the implementation is a little behind > the times. Lex for the most part has been displaced by flex ["He's dead, Jim"]. In past projects I've used re2c, which is considerably more lightweight and more akin to hand-generated scanners. Be warned that while re2c generates ANSI C, it is written in C++. Some folks on the YASM project took it and rewrote it in ANSI C but they Borg-ified it into their YASM build system. Some cord cutting would be required, but it wouldn't be that difficult to do. The maintainer of re2c apears to have taken the source from his site, but it's a port on FreeBSD and many Linux distributions. Here's a link for the lazy: http://www.0lsen.net/re2c-0.9.1.tar.gz -Clint From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 18:16:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 18:16:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12416 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 18:16:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12412 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 18:16:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 18:16:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2814519C26; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 05:16:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8478219C1B; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 05:16:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D4F9D19C1D; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 05:15:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-12.noos.net [212.198.2.83]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BB3BE19C1D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 05:15:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30297697 invoked by uid 0); 18 Jul 2003 09:15:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.83 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 18 Jul 2003 09:15:03 -0000 Message-ID: <009e01c34d0d$0d0bda20$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] gcc/plan9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:14:54 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Lex for the most part has been displaced by flex ["He's dead, Jim"]. In > past projects I've used re2c, which is considerably more lightweight and > more akin to hand-generated scanners. Be warned that while re2c generates > ANSI C, it is written in C++. Some folks on the YASM project took it and > rewrote it in ANSI C but they Borg-ified it into their YASM build system. > Some cord cutting would be required, but it wouldn't be that difficult to > do. mvs lives ... almost. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 18:21:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 18:21:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12546 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 18:21:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12542 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 18:21:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 18:21:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4B9F019C28; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 05:21:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4132F19C1B; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 05:21:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E952019C28; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 05:20:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-06.noos.net [212.198.2.75]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1CE3719C1B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 05:20:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12537666 invoked by uid 0); 18 Jul 2003 09:20:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.75 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 18 Jul 2003 09:20:19 -0000 Message-ID: <00a801c34d0d$c96bbaa0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <009e01c34d0d$0d0bda20$b9844051@insultant.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] gcc/plan9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:20:09 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Some folks on the YASM ... 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--upas-cnoztzesstehqhguagonwvqljb Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu> Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for forsyth@vitanuova.com id 19dMmo-1-3uL-1r; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 04:24:02 -0000 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by punt-3.mail.demon.net id aa0110895; 18 Jul 2003 4:22 GMT Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C089919C08; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 00:22:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2341519A7A; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 00:22:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 227B919AAA; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 00:21:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ALPHA1.ITS.MONASH.EDU.AU (alpha1.its.monash.edu.au [130.194.1.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 25D1E19A7A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 00:21:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from blammo.its.monash.edu.au ([130.194.1.74]) by vaxc.its.monash.edu.au (PMDF V6.1 #39306) with ESMTP id <01KYEO2OAFSA9FRZDP@vaxc.its.monash.edu.au> for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:21:11 +1000 Received: from blammo.its.monash.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB9212C00F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:21:11 +1000 (EST) Received: from ajft.org (nbk-9978.its.monash.edu.au [130.194.3.170]) (user ajft) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blammo.its.monash.edu.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0938812C00E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:21:11 +1000 (EST) From: Adrian Tritschler Subject: Re: [9fans] Laptop and VM software In-reply-to: <53d09c64c314eb2c75ac4aee7d17b778@plan9.bell-labs.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-id: <3F1775B1.3090904@ajft.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,zh,zh-CN,zh-TW User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030716 References: <53d09c64c314eb2c75ac4aee7d17b778@plan9.bell-labs.com> Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:21:05 +1000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote: >On Thu Jul 17 14:16:28 EDT 2003, vdharani@infernopark.com wrote: > > >>Hi, >> >>I am planning to buy a laptop. I want to install Win, Linux and Plan 9. >> >>Can you please suggest what VM software I should go for? VMware or Virtual >>PC? >> >>Also, can you suggest what model I should go for? IBM T23? Or better Txx >>model? Or someother brand/model? >> >>I kind-of figured from the mailing list and Wiki pages that T23 and VMware >>4.0 are the ones I should go for but I just want to make sure. >> >>Any help appreciated. >> >>Thanks >>dharani >> >> > >Even the T23 is not uniform. We have ones with the internal Intel 82557 ethernet >controller, the T23 is also available with an internal 3Com controller and, if I >remember correctly, there was a problem with that. > That'd be my[1] IBM T21. :-( Plan9's 3com driver doesn't work with the "3Com 10/100 Mini PCI Ethernet Adapter" that was supplied with it. It's not really a case of "internal vs external" controller, both are internal mini-PCI cards, one works, one doesn't. If anyone can give me any hints on making it work, or how to debug a network card driver, I'm all ears... >VMware is the only choice. Virtual PC doesn't implement the PC it says it does and plan 9 finds that out. > Adrian [1] my employer's T21, provided for "work and work-related purposes" --upas-cnoztzesstehqhguagonwvqljb-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 20:56:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 20:56:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 16446 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 20:56:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 16442 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 20:56:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 20:56:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5A7AD19C4E; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 07:56:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6C84319C29; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 07:56:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 948CF19C2B; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 07:55:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz (clusterb.asuch.cas.cz [147.231.136.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A536E19C11 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 07:55:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from picture ([147.231.139.42]) by XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:55:19 +0200 Message-ID: <000501c34d23$756b3460$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> From: "pac" To: "9fans" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jul 2003 11:55:19.0095 (UTC) FILETIME=[75BBEC70:01C34D23] Subject: [9fans] gcc/plan9 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:55:18 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Thanks, folks! It was a terrible bug to catch in a code that was not mine. (Remember, I'm almost a non-programmer). I will ask the authors to adopt the proposed changes. However, I'm happy I have a new port completed, good training. And, step-by-step, getting rid of linux on my standalone box!!! Thanks for patience with my often ignorant questions, cheers, ++pac. --- Odchozí zpráva neobsahuje viry. Zkontrolováno antivirovým systémem AVG (http://www.grisoft.cz). Verze: 6.0.476 / Virová báze: 273 - datum vydání: 24.4.2003 From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 22:12:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 22:12:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 18137 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 22:12:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 18133 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 22:12:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 22:12:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DFABC19C54; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:12:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8AD4619C45; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:12:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4EDBB19C4B; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:12:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sparkle.iba.co.za (server.iba.co.za [196.30.44.140]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5241519C45 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:11:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foible.proxima.alt.za (prawn.iba.co.za [192.168.30.22]) by sparkle.iba.co.za (8.11.7/8.11.5) with SMTP id h6IDBYb13602 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:11:44 +0200 (SAST) Message-ID: <158be6db0b2a969dded9146d3dfb2694@proxima.alt.za> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: lucio@proxima.alt.za MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.4.3(snapshot 20030221) (sparkle) Subject: [9fans] SCSI query Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:11:38 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I have the following SCSI configuration: 0: wide 1: wide 2: narrow off of an 53C8xx controller with only a narrow connector. For some reason, Plan 9 does not see the wide devices although seemingly the controller does: I have formatted them, apparently successfully. This is the startup dialogue, having enabled KPRINT in /sys/src/9/pc/sd53c8xx.c I presume one can ignore unrelated exchanged info, but I've included everything worth disclosing. ---- cut here ---- dev A0 port 1F0 config 0C5A capabilities 2F00 mwdma 0007 udma 203F sd53c8xx: SYM53C875 rev. 0x04 intr=11 command=2000007 sd53c8xx: bios scntl3(55) stest2(00) Boot devices: fd0 boot from: fd0!9huddle.gz fd0!9huddle.gz found 9huddle.gz .gz..........................................................................................715688 => 635966+1012428+90616=1739010 entry: 80100020 Plan 9 cpu0: 750MHz AuthenticAMD AMD-Athlon (cpuid: AX 0x0631 DX 0x183F9FF) ELCR: 1C20 i8253enable...#l0: i82557: 100Mbps port 0xC000 irq 10: 0002B33696C6 sd53c8xx: SYM53C875 rev. 0x04 intr=11 command=2000007 #U/usb0: uhci: port 0xA400 irq 10 #U/usb1: uhci: port 0xA800 irq 10 22566 free pages, 90264K bytes, 730264K swap root is from (il, tcp, local)[local!#f/fd0disk]: il il ip...sd53c8xx: tpf=12 scf=1.0 xferp=4 mhz=20.000 sd53c8xx: tpf=15 scf=1.0 xferp=5 mhz=16.667 sd53c8xx: tpf=18 scf=1.5 xferp=4 mhz=13.889 sd53c8xx: tpf=23 scf=1.5 xferp=5 mhz=10.870 sd53c8xx: tpf=25 scf=2.0 xferp=4 mhz=10.000 sd53c8xx: tpf=31 scf=2.0 xferp=5 mhz=8.065 sd53c8xx: tpf=37 scf=3.0 xferp=4 mhz=6.757 sd53c8xx: tpf=43 scf=2.0 xferp=7 mhz=5.814 sd53c8xx: tpf=46 scf=3.0 xferp=5 mhz=5.435 sd53c8xx: tpf=50 scf=4.0 xferp=4 mhz=5.000 sd53c8xx: tpf=62 scf=4.0 xferp=5 mhz=4.033 sd53c8xx: tpf=74 scf=4.0 xferp=6 mhz=3.379 sd53c8xx: tpf=87 scf=4.0 xferp=7 mhz=2.874 sd53c8xx: tpf=100 scf=4.0 xferp=8 mhz=2.500 sd53c8xx: tpf=112 scf=4.0 xferp=9 mhz=2.233 sd53c8xx: tpf=125 scf=4.0 xferp=10 mhz=2.000 sd53c8xx: tpf=137 scf=4.0 xferp=11 mhz=1.825 sd53c8xx: bios scntl3(00) stest2(00) sd53c8xx: 0: capabilities 32 sd53c8xx: 0: WDTN: initiating expo 1 sd53c8xx: 0: WDTN: response 1 sd53c8xx: 0: SDTN: initiating 12 16 sd53c8xx: 0: SDTN response 12 15 sd53c8xx: 0: SDTN: using 12 15 sd53c8xx: 1: capabilities 32 sd53c8xx: 1: WDTN: initiating expo 1 sd53c8xx: 1: WDTN: response 1 sd53c8xx: 1: SDTN: initiating 12 16 sd53c8xx: 1: SDTN response 12 15 sd53c8xx: 1: SDTN: using 12 15 sd53c8xx: 2: capabilities 1a sd53c8xx: 2: WDTN: narrow sd53c8xx: 2: SDTN: initiating 12 16 sd53c8xx: 2: SDTN response 12 15 sd53c8xx: 2: SDTN: using 12 15 sd53c8xx: 2: r flags 00010000 status 2 rlen 18 F0 00 06 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 29 00 00 00 00 00 can't read nvram: i/o error authid: proxima proxima authdom: proxima.alt.za proxima.alt.za secstore key: xxx password: xxx can't write key to nvram: fd out of range or not open version...time... aux/timesync: opening clock.proxima.alt.za: 'clock.proxima.alt.za' directory entry not found init: starting /bin/rc meddle# lc /dev lc /dev bintime consctl hostowner osversion random sysstat caphash cputime kmesg pgrpid reboot time capuse drivers kprint pid swap user cons hostdomain null ppid sysname zero meddle# bind -a '#S' /dev bind -a '#S' /dev meddle# lc /dev lc /dev bintime consctl hostowner osversion random sdctl sysstat caphash cputime kmesg pgrpid reboot sdstat time capuse drivers kprint pid sd02 swap user cons hostdomain null ppid sdC0 sysname zero meddle# cat /dev/sd02/ctl cat /dev/sd02/ctl inquiry QUANTUM FIREBALL SE3.2S PJ0A11/12/97333801619441 geometry 6306048 512 part data 0 6306048 ---- cut here ---- Thanks to anyone who can suggest how to sort this out. I note that NetBSD reports parity errors when starting up on the same hardware, so the problem may be local. ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 22:51:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 22:51:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 19005 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 22:51:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 19001 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 22:51:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 22:51:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0BCF319C53; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:51:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1C22B19C22; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:51:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id AC5A019C3C; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:50:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terra (19.Red-217-126-87.pooles.rima-tde.net [217.126.87.19]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id A8D6D19C22 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:50:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "IMPRIMA LO QUE DESEE, CALIDAD FOTOGRAFICA" <2003bar@eresmas.com> To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message-Id: <20030718135039.A8D6D19C22@mail.cse.psu.edu> Subject: [9fans] Hasta 10 cargas de impresora por 1 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:52:34 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.3 required=5.0 tests=INVALID_DATE,RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM,RCVD_IN_SBL, X_OSIRU_SPAMWARE_SITE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) IMPRIMA LO QUE DESEE SIN IMPORTARLE EL GASTO IMPRESION CON CALIDAD FOTOGRAFICA. 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Aprobado por el 105 congreso base de las normativas internacionales al considerar que este e-mail no podrá ser considerado SPAM From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 18 23:41:27 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 18 23:41:27 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20001 invoked by uid 1020); 18 Jul 2003 23:41:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 19997 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 23:41:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 23:41:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D558319C5C; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 10:41:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 71A1819C5D; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 10:41:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1B30819C59; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 10:40:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from larch (unknown [195.173.15.12]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1EAFF19C4B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 10:40:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <412540618d3f1ecb73b5e3ceaae7b558@yourdomain.dom> From: steve.simon@snellwilcox.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] ncpfs annyone? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:39:57 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi, Anyone interested in trying/testing (:-) the Netware client I have written? It is fairly complete and appears stable. It talks native NCP over IP only - no IPX, it should be compatible with all servers from NW 3.11 an later, it speaks Bindery not NDS so you must log into each server individually. No printer support (yet). Email me if interested. I will put it on a website when its been tested a bit more. -Steve From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 00:13:41 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 00:13:41 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20778 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 00:13:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20774 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 00:13:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 00:13:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3FF8A19C62; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:13:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 04937199B6; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:13:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6187519C5F; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:12:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz (clusterb.asuch.cas.cz [147.231.136.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 71E2819C18 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:12:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from picture ([147.231.139.42]) by XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:12:35 +0200 Message-ID: <000501c34d3f$04b5af40$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> From: "pac" To: "9fans" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jul 2003 15:12:35.0152 (UTC) FILETIME=[0492E500:01C34D3F] Subject: [9fans] don't shoot me Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:12:35 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) friends, as an absolute amateur (and before diving into) i would like to know your opinion on XML (the voices vary from the "[1]best thing since the invention of pre-sliced bread" and "eXtremely Messed-up Language[5]" just drop me a few words, or just [1] .. [5] ;-) sorrry for just another survey, (yes, and i like the idea, but not the "verbose" implementation) cheers, ++pac. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 00:18:40 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 00:18:40 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20888 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 00:18:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20884 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 00:18:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 00:18:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 52BD119C5D; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:18:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B6ED019A6A; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:18:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D6668199B7; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:17:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailrelay1.lanl.gov (mailrelay1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.101]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D4146199B6 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:17:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay1.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6IFHEZm013741 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:17:15 -0600 Received: from maxroach.lanl.gov (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6IFHEAO007719 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:17:14 -0600 From: ron minnich To: 9fans <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me In-Reply-To: <000501c34d3f$04b5af40$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.35 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:17:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, pac wrote: > as an absolute amateur (and before diving into) i would like to know > your opinion on XML (the voices vary from the "[1]best thing since the > invention of pre-sliced bread" and "eXtremely Messed-up Language[5]" microsoft really likes XML. ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 00:24:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 00:24:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21099 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 00:24:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21095 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 00:24:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 00:24:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BB63A19C6A; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:24:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4DBC719C18; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:24:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4C2FE19C18; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:23:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nautilus.escet.urjc.es (nautilus.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.207]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5F253199B7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:23:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: Fco.J.Ballesteros To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me In-Reply-To: <000501c34d3f$04b5af40$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:23:25 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) IMHO, it's text data reinvented, with some help to automate parsing. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 00:29:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 00:29:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21183 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 00:29:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21179 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 00:29:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 00:29:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4CC3419C6D; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:29:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 84C9619C18; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:29:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E55FE19C18; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:28:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8663B19C55 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:27:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6IFH2np008742 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:17:02 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h6IFH2fI008741 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:17:02 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me Message-ID: <20030718171701.R2008@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <000501c34d3f$04b5af40$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: <000501c34d3f$04b5af40$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz>; from pac on Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 05:12:35PM +0200 Organization: Proxima Research & Development Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:17:01 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 05:12:35PM +0200, pac wrote: > > as an absolute amateur (and before diving into) i would like to know your > opinion on XML > (the voices vary from the "[1]best thing since the invention of pre-sliced > bread" and "eXtremely Messed-up Language[5]" > I like XML as an information exchange language for diverse platforms. Being as vast as it is, it no doubt will be abused more often than properly employed. But I am not aware of any preferable alternative (ASN.1?). ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 00:46:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 00:46:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21549 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 00:46:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21545 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 00:46:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 00:46:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5ED9019C71; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:46:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 85DEE19C65; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:46:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D89A019C69; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:45:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ihemail1.firewall.lucent.com (ihemail1.lucent.com [192.11.222.161]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0BB5619C65 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:45:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nj9620exch001p.wins.lucent.com (h135-222-4-21.lucent.com [135.222.4.21]) by ihemail1.firewall.lucent.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id h6IFjFh05957 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 10:45:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: by nj9620exch001p.mh.lucent.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <2ZQZ56LJ>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:45:15 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Trickey, Howard W (Howard)" To: "'9fans@cse.psu.edu'" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: RE: [9fans] don't shoot me MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:45:05 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Lucio De Re wrote: > I like XML as an information exchange language for diverse platforms. > Being as vast as it is, it no doubt will be abused more often than > properly employed. But I am not aware of any preferable alternative > (ASN.1?). I agree with this. ASN.1 is an alternative, but it sucks much worse. But it is disappointing that the XML spec is so large that you can't just whip up a parser for the whole thing in a few hundred lines. I think there are three reasons for this: 1) it tries to represent two quite different kinds of data: marked up text (like HTML, SGML), and tree-structured data. The need for the former introduces all sorts of whitespace worries that just muck things up for the latter. 2) 'attributes' are perhaps a convenient shorthand, but could have (and should have, in my opinion) been left out 3) the namespace stuff vastly complicates things for not a lot of gain - Howard From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 00:52:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 00:52:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21611 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 00:52:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21607 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 00:52:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 00:52:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0968E19C7A; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:52:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1390819C6F; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:52:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 546D419C72; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:51:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 936FC19C6F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:51:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from luchie.demon.co.uk ([194.222.185.65] helo=luchie-chowchows.demon.co.uk) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 19dXWS-0001T9-0Z for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:51:53 +0100 Received: by luchie-chowchows.demon.co.uk (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:50:17 +0100 From: Dave Lukes To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me Message-ID: <20030718165017.A1419@luchie.demon.co.uk> References: <000501c34d3f$04b5af40$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22i Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:50:17 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Speaking as someone who's trained/used/sworn-at XML/XSLT/XSL-FO ... > > just drop me a few words, or just [1] .. [5] ;-) [1] .. [5] :-). What Trickey said, plus. Seriously, XML has it's uses. e.g. XSL-FO may one day be a tolerable troff replacement. (Although I'd hate to be an implementor of an XSL-FO processor: the reference documents sent me to sleep in record time). On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 05:23:25PM +0200, Fco. J. Ballesteros wrote: > IMHO, it's text data reinvented, with some help to automate parsing. Yes, but with some tree structure and naming too. One of the "interesting" "features" I've noticed about XML is the "if the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail" syndrome. You end up with XSLT (i.e. XML) programs manipulating XML data driven by XML configuration files and so ad infinitum. (Look at the Apache stuff, like ant for an example). (Yes, I know XSLT can _generate_ plain text, just about, but it can't _read_ it!) This disease will be familar to the Lispers out there. Cheers, Dave. 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opinion. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 02:01:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 02:01:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 22816 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 02:01:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 22812 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 02:01:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 02:01:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 65A9D19B65; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:01:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 62BAC19C4C; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:01:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0604819C55; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:00:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from larch (unknown [195.173.15.12]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3754B19B65 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:00:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: steve.simon@snellwilcox.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me In-Reply-To: <1627809308@snellwilcox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 18:00:27 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I agree entirely with the sentiments of the below :-) BTW, This has gotta be a fortune. -Steve > I > haven't
> an
opinion. > From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 02:03:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 02:03:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 22842 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 02:03:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 22838 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 02:03:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 02:03:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9AA6519C82; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:03:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 42F9F19C55; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:03:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0C21A19C73; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:02:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailrelay2.lanl.gov (mailrelay2.lanl.gov [128.165.4.103]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 05F9019C4C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:02:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay2.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6IH2TtC025085 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:02:29 -0600 Received: from maxroach.lanl.gov (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6IH2TAO011925 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:02:29 -0600 From: ron minnich To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me In-Reply-To: <829028fc324d5e94684699b99d6b8a94@plan9.bell-labs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.35 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:02:29 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, David Presotto wrote: > pos=subject>I type=contraction>haven't
flavor=indefinite> an
 pos=object>opinion. > > so much more readable than lisp. ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 02:11:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 02:11:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 22991 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 02:11:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 22987 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 02:11:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 02:11:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0120319C7E; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:11:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9749C19C70; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:11:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B10A819C70; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:10:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from juice.thebigchoice.com (pc1-nott2-3-cust18.nott.cable.ntl.com [80.4.204.18]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id E6C2A19C55 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:10:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 75372 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 17:10:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO proweb.co.uk) (192.168.1.100) by juice.thebigchoice.com with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 17:10:14 -0000 Message-ID: <3F1829F5.5040700@proweb.co.uk> From: matt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me References: <000501c34d3f$04b5af40$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> In-Reply-To: <000501c34d3f$04b5af40$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 18:10:13 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cat i_love.You.xml >/dev/brain ERROR: you say you love me but then you hit me ERROR: does not compute fzzzttt Quick Captain, let's make our escape From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 02:38:41 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 02:38:41 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 23462 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 02:38:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 23457 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 02:38:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 02:38:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DA26E19C88; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:38:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E2E7C19BF6; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:38:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 45B4419C76; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:37:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 65B5819AD3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:37:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6IHb4eH009742 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:37:04 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6IHb3d6009738 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:37:03 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: diacritics (was: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me) In-Reply-To: <829028fc324d5e94684699b99d6b8a94@plan9.bell-labs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:37:03 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, David Presotto wrote: > . this reminds me -- there is a difference between diacritics in X and in Plan 9: http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~mirtchov/screenshots/x-p9-diacritics.png what can be done to get the X behaviour in Plan 9? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 02:44:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 02:44:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 23554 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 02:44:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 23550 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 02:44:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 02:44:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 97AE019A31; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:44:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4665819BF6; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:44:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A138919BF6; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:43:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C8F5419B11 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:43:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19dZC9-0003JO-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 18:39:01 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Clint Olsen Message-ID: Organization: Comcast Online References: , <00a801c34d0d$c96bbaa0$b9844051@insultant.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] gcc/plan9 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:38:09 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article <00a801c34d0d$c96bbaa0$b9844051@insultant.net>, boyd, rounin wrote: > > YASM? Yet Another Stupid Module? Having not used it, I cannot say :) I'll let you have a looksee and decide for yourself: http://www.tortall.net/projects/yasm -Clint From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 02:44:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 02:44:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 23562 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 02:44:39 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 23558 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 02:44:38 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 02:44:38 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 16D3919C90; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:44:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9F85B19C79; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:44:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 436E319C70; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:43:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-06.noos.net [212.198.2.75]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 673C919BC1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:43:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12810543 invoked by uid 0); 18 Jul 2003 17:43:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.75 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 18 Jul 2003 17:43:50 -0000 Message-ID: <014b01c34d54$1f98b900$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <000501c34d3f$04b5af40$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> <20030718165017.A1419@luchie.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:43:39 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) XML? swiss army markup language. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 03:23:43 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 03:23:43 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 24245 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 03:23:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 24241 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 03:23:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 03:23:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E675119C8C; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D1A8319BC1; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:23:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8477819BF6; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:22:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 9fs.org (cotswold.demon.co.uk [194.222.75.186]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C8A3719B7E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:22:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 9fs.org ([192.168.100.103]) by 9fs.org; Fri Jul 18 19:24:09 BST 2003 Received: from 192.168.100.111 ([192.168.100.111]) by 9fs.org; Fri Jul 18 19:24:09 BST 2003 From: "Nigel Roles" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: RE: [9fans] don't shoot me Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:22:47 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,MSGID_GOOD_EXCHANGE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > so much more readable than lisp. > > ron And slightly less readable than binary. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 04:16:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 04:16:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 25028 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 04:16:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 25024 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 04:16:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 04:16:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3404B19CA1; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:16:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 384F319C9F; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:16:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3E2A819C9E; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:16:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from galapagos.cse.psu.edu (galapagos.cse.psu.edu [130.203.12.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id B540219C9C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:15:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28582 invoked by uid 991); 18 Jul 2003 19:15:59 -0000 Message-ID: <20030718191559.28581.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> To: 9fans <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me In-reply-to: <20030718171701.R2008@cackle.proxima.alt.za> References: <000501c34d3f$04b5af40$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> <20030718171701.R2008@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Comments: In-reply-to Lucio De Re message dated "Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:17:01 +0200." From: Scott Schwartz Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:15:59 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) | I like XML as an information exchange language for diverse platforms. | Being as vast as it is, it no doubt will be abused more often than | properly employed. But I am not aware of any preferable alternative | (ASN.1?). S-expressions. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 04:35:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 04:35:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 25320 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 04:35:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 25316 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 04:35:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 04:35:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8CF8B19CA7; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:35:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 70B4619C9D; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:35:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 399C019C9E; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:34:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailrelay1.lanl.gov (mailrelay1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.101]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 177C119C91 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:34:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay1.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6IJYMZm002078 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:34:22 -0600 Received: from maxroach.lanl.gov (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6IJYMAO017339 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:34:22 -0600 From: ron minnich To: 9fans <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me In-Reply-To: <20030718191559.28581.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.35 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:34:21 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PORN_4,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Scott Schwartz wrote: > | I like XML as an information exchange language for diverse platforms. > | Being as vast as it is, it no doubt will be abused more often than > | properly employed. But I am not aware of any preferable alternative > | (ASN.1?). > > S-expressions. > yep. see: http://www.acl.lanl.gov/supermon/ for our monitoring tools that are all SEXP based, and have a self-describing data format. The data streams are composable, since they are S-expressions, so combining data from 1024 streams to one stream is pretty easy. They include a kernel monitor that produces Linux /proc type information in S-expression format, with the difference that our module accomodates lots more data and lots more information than Linux provides normally. For a small, fast, embeddable library that we wrote here see:http://sexpr.sourceforge.net/. This has found non-Supermon uses all over the place, including in a telescope somewhere. There is also a "Why not XML" section on that page. In the limit, and I know this sounds nuts, I kind of wish everything in /proc (and /dev/*/whatever) produced SEXP. While Plan 9 is nowhere near as inconsistent as Linux in the /proc area, the structure is still pretty inconsistent. Some things are lists, others are ordered pairs, and others are tables. If it were all SEXP it could be self-describing and uniformly parseable with the small, fast library. But maybe I am nuts. ron p.s. Betcha this mail gets filtered due to the SEXP content. But that's what they're called by old-time lisp dudes. p.p.s. OH well, I'll quote Matt: "Why not XML? The goal of any project should be to solve a problem in an elegant, well designed manner. Buzzword compliance rarely achieves this, other than allowing a lowly programmer or software engineer to appease higher-ups who read that "XML is the latest great thing!" XML suffers from certain flaws that make it worthless in an environment where speed and efficiency (memory and time complexity) are key requirements. Compare the performance, footprint, and developer complexity of Xerces and this s-expression library, and you'll see that for hierarchical data representation, one is significantly simpler than the other without losing the ability to do its job (represent data!). After working with XML for a while (~3-4 years) on multiple projects, I find that since starting to use s-expressions again as a data format has allowed me to spend less time debugging my data representation code and more time on problems that matter. XML sucks, enough said." From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 04:40:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 04:40:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 25410 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 04:40:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 25405 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 04:40:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 04:40:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 270E019C9D; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:40:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 89B4019C9D; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:40:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6B87819C91; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:39:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from galapagos.cse.psu.edu (galapagos.cse.psu.edu [130.203.12.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id E665B19AE5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:39:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28974 invoked by uid 991); 18 Jul 2003 19:39:40 -0000 Message-ID: <20030718193940.28973.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: diacritics (was: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me) In-reply-to: References: Comments: In-reply-to andrey mirtchovski message dated "Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:37:03 -0600." From: Scott Schwartz Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:39:40 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) | this reminds me -- there is a difference between diacritics in X and in Plan 9: | http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~mirtchov/screenshots/x-p9-diacritics.png | what can be done to get the X behaviour in Plan 9? Unicode has complicated rules for composing glyphs. Someone would have to implement them. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 05:35:35 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 05:35:35 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 26598 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 05:35:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 26594 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 05:35:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 05:35:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B424019CB6; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:35:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8C5C219CAD; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:35:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6126919C9F; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:34:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 928D519ACA for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:34:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA05822 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:34:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h6IKYW725496 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:34:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307182034.h6IKYW725496@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:34:21 MDT." From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:34:32 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > "Why not XML? Why not, indeed. When Paul Lustgarten was at Avaya, he was giving a talk on natural language processing. He had developed his own metalanguage and support scaffolding to describe conversations, and knew one of the questions that would come up was, ``why didn't you use XML'' (replace XML with VoxML, or whatever DTD du jour you want). His response was to start the talk off with a, ``why not XML?'' slide, on which he gave some simple arithmetic problems he asked the audience to solve. One catch: the numbers in the problems were written with Roman numerals. But back to XML.... I've used XML quite a bit, and also waffled over it for years. On one hand, I think the idea of a language-based way to describe data (and capture its meaning, i.e., this is a street and not just a text item) is a good one, but on the other, XML implements it horribly. First and foremost, it inherits the God awful syntax of SGML (the true swiss army markup language). Second, it's been abused to death. As various folks have mentioned, it's been applied like deet in New York City after a rainstorm: sometimes useful, most often unnecessary and malodorous. I think SEXP's are a nice alternative (even if they are lisp), but unfortunately, no one uses them (I did write a parser for them once, though). Then again, no one uses Plan 9 but that doesn't stop me. Third and finally, like Linux, it has a small army of rabid prostelytizers following and promoting it who are convinced it's the cure to world hunger. The stench of their bible thumping has tainted it and we've ended up with some real monstrosities (like namespaces; ew). - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 05:40:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 05:40:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 26744 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 05:40:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 26740 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 05:40:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 05:40:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 76D4619B11; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:40:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E709119B11; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:40:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C85D419CAC; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:39:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-12.noos.net [212.198.2.83]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E0BF819B11 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:39:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30454148 invoked by uid 0); 18 Jul 2003 20:39:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.83 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 18 Jul 2003 20:39:40 -0000 Message-ID: <018101c34d6c$af7b3580$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] gcc/plan9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 22:39:28 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > http://www.tortall.net/projects/yasm The goal of the YASM project is to write an assember that takes over NASM's current and future user base. goody gumdrops [brick top] ... i just love dicking around with assembler. movc5 anyone? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 06:06:35 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 06:06:35 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27168 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 06:06:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27164 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 06:06:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 06:06:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 067DE19ACC; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:06:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5C34219AD6; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:06:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D6B5419B44; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:05:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from edoras.nas.com (edoras.nas.com [206.63.100.8]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3814619ACC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:05:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nas.com (unknown [164.116.190.46]) by edoras.nas.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5067EEB116 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:05:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F186124.2040606@nas.com> From: Jack Johnson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030416 Thunderbird/0.1a X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] gcc/plan9 References: <018101c34d6c$af7b3580$b9844051@insultant.net> In-Reply-To: <018101c34d6c$af7b3580$b9844051@insultant.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:05:40 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) boyd, rounin wrote: > movc5 anyone? 2. d4 Take your Sicilian somewhere else! (my apologies if we have any real Sicilians on the list) -Jack From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 06:11:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 06:11:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27320 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 06:11:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27316 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 06:11:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 06:11:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0B11A19CAD; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:11:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F17D619CA5; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:11:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9FA8819CAB; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:11:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-09.noos.net [212.198.2.80]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B74E119CA0 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:10:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 87837097 invoked by uid 0); 18 Jul 2003 21:10:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.80 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 18 Jul 2003 21:10:57 -0000 Message-ID: <019401c34d71$0de28ca0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <200307182034.h6IKYW725496@augusta.math.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:10:45 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > The stench of their bible > thumping has tainted it and we've ended up with some real monstrosities > (like namespaces; ew). well then there's 'extreme programming' and 'patterns'. the ontly thing 'extreme' about that nonsense is that i want to terminate those zealots with _extreme_ prejudice. if you need a pattern, go knit something. if you need code, just code it. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 06:12:24 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 06:12:24 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27334 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 06:12:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27330 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 06:12:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 06:12:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E44E119B44; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:12:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D0B5319CA5; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:12:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 81FDF19CB5; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:11:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp808.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp808.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.187]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id B9D6D19B44 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:11:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from adsl-67-38-31-8.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (HELO ameritech.net) (dbailey27@ameritech.net@67.38.31.8 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 21:11:29 -0000 Message-ID: <3F1870B0.8070904@ameritech.net> From: northern snowfall User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020518 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] gcc/plan9 References: <018101c34d6c$af7b3580$b9844051@insultant.net> <3F186124.2040606@nas.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:12:00 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA, X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > (my apologies if we have any real Sicilians on the list) >:[ Don http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_ > From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 06:13:24 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 06:13:24 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27369 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 06:13:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27365 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 06:13:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 06:13:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7245E19CA0; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:13:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 44AA819CBB; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:13:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 11A0919CAB; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:12:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-01.noos.net [212.198.2.70]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3768019B44 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:12:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 41205508 invoked by uid 0); 18 Jul 2003 21:12:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.70 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 18 Jul 2003 21:12:05 -0000 Message-ID: <019a01c34d71$3682f0a0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <20030718193940.28973.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: diacritics (was: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:11:53 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) some are diacritics. some are real characters; the 'diacritic' is part of the character. 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Now theres some *real* characters for ya! Don http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_ > From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 06:29:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 06:29:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27608 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 06:29:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27604 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 06:29:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 06:29:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E961C19CC7; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:29:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 08C9A19CBC; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:29:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D1FDA19CBC; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:28:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-07.noos.net [212.198.2.76]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 91DC719CCB for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:25:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25898186 invoked by uid 0); 18 Jul 2003 21:25:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.76 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 18 Jul 2003 21:25:53 -0000 Message-ID: <01cd01c34d73$23b5ca40$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <20030718193940.28973.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> <019a01c34d71$3682f0a0$b9844051@insultant.net> <3F1871E6.3050001@ameritech.net> Subject: Re: diacritics (was: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:25:40 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Phew, and I thought you guys were talking about dianetics. > Now theres some *real* characters for ya! ah, scientologist baiting? Q: If you could do anything in the world what would you do? A: Stand around on the street asking people questions. Q: If you could have anything in the world what would you have? A: That clipboard. Q: If you could change anything in the world what would it be? A: The answer to my last two questions. 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Don http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_ > From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 06:54:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 06:54:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27864 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 06:54:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27860 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 06:54:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 06:54:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 024DE19CBF; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:54:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6582919CB7; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:54:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0502719CC1; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:53:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailnw.centurytel.net (mailnw.centurytel.net [209.206.160.237]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 567BB19CC3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:51:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from laptopvmw.9netics.com ([64.91.109.37]) by mailnw.centurytel.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6ILpN6t021062 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:51:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me From: "Skip Tavakkolian" In-Reply-To: <019401c34d71$0de28ca0$b9844051@insultant.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:51:23 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > well then there's 'extreme programming' and 'patterns'. These guys have come up with a phrase that captures the XP methodology and has an apropos acronym: http://www.softwarereality.com/ExtremeProgramming.jsp "Design After First Testing, and Constant Refactoring After Programming." From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 06:59:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 06:59:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27915 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 06:59:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27911 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 06:59:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 06:59:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C3BC019CB9; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:59:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 951CC19CAB; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:59:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5FCD419CB7; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:58:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-09.noos.net [212.198.2.80]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8979119C79 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:58:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 89011258 invoked by uid 0); 18 Jul 2003 21:58:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.80 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 18 Jul 2003 21:58:51 -0000 Message-ID: <01fe01c34d77$bdfc9580$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:58:37 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > "Design After First Testing, and Constant Refactoring After Programming." tell me about it ... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 07:07:35 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 07:07:35 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27979 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 07:07:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27975 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 07:07:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 07:07:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B509A19CCA; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 18:07:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 80B4019CBC; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 18:07:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4CEA219CBD; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 18:06:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-09.noos.net [212.198.2.80]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 71BC219CB7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 18:06:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 89049296 invoked by uid 0); 18 Jul 2003 22:06:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.80 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 18 Jul 2003 22:06:21 -0000 Message-ID: <020801c34d78$ca151760$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: [9fans] Supermon Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:06:07 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) sounds cool. i did something much simpler, and less invasive, that snooped rwho packets, with mogul's packet filter, and would show (normally) the load average, or an up/down status. the lab was small, so we had the bandwidth and i had the screen real estate to watch the whole lab. it showed interesting things, like unterminated coax even though a machine was was hooked onto the coax. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 10:49:47 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 10:49:47 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 32572 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 10:49:46 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 32566 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 10:49:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 10:49:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0EAB119CD4; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 21:49:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A117E19CCF; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 21:49:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 07D3419CCE; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 21:48:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6093819CCC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 21:48:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6J1mleH010390 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:48:47 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6J1mkGH010386 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:48:47 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] inflatezlib/readpng bug Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:48:46 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I can't catch this one. Having spent the afternoon trying to hunt it, I'll report it without a fix, sorry. The bug is, basically, png(1) can't display png images larger than 0x8000 bytes (+ headers). To illustrate the bug try on your machine: resample -x 1024 -y 1024 /lib/face/48x48x4/g/glenda.1 | topng | png you will get a 'header said 1024 rows; data goes further' error message. If, however, the png images are smaller than 0x8000 (like the normal glenda image, or even resampled at 512x512) png displays them fine. The number 0x8000(+headers) is significant, because that's the chunk size that inflate() in libflate will process in a single run. With compressed images larger than that inflatezlib()'s (readpng uses inflatezlib() which calls inflate()) write/read functions will be called more than once and the bug will be triggered. Note that deflatezlib() used by topng works fine -- large images created with it are read fine everywhere else. Why do I think it's the library and not png.c itself? If you change png.c and topng.c to use inflate/deflate instead of inflatezlib/deflatezlib, leaving everything else intacs, the example above will succeed. andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 11:54:41 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 11:54:41 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 2515 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 11:54:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 2508 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 11:54:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 11:54:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1A81319CD8; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 22:54:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9F3EC19CD2; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 22:54:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8751019CCE; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 22:53:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp807.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp807.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.186]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 185A619BF6 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 22:53:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from adsl-67-38-31-8.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (HELO ameritech.net) (dbailey27@ameritech.net@67.38.31.8 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 02:53:01 -0000 Message-ID: <3F18C0C0.1010901@ameritech.net> From: northern snowfall User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020518 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] guh Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 22:53:36 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I completely forgot what 'NB' stands for. Nothing is turning up in Foldoc and it's too general in google. Can someone clue me in? Don http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 12:04:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 12:04:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 3174 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 12:04:22 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 3170 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 12:04:21 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 12:04:21 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0819619CE0; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:04:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4D89919CD6; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:04:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2453019CD2; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:03:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from collyer.net (collyer.net [63.192.14.226]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7B54919CC8 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:03:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <7f4e344b339b80fd53b7203c8da8c664@collyer.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] guh From: Geoff Collyer In-Reply-To: <3F18C0C0.1010901@ameritech.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 20:03:16 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I don't know the context. It could be New Brunswick, "nota bene" (note well) or New B, the language between B and C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 12:05:21 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 12:05:21 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 3201 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 12:05:21 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 3197 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 12:05:21 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 12:05:21 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1F1BC19CE2; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:05:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 697BE19CD6; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:05:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1B5A719CD6; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:04:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-10.noos.net [212.198.2.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9274419CD2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:04:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 102297965 invoked by uid 0); 19 Jul 2003 03:04:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.81 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 19 Jul 2003 03:04:01 -0000 Message-ID: <02b801c34da2$4db42c40$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <3F18C0C0.1010901@ameritech.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] guh MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 05:03:17 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I completely forgot what 'NB' stands for. eh, NB? nota bene, iirc. latin right. maps pretty much onto french 'noter bien'. is that what you mean? lit: note well -- take note. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 12:13:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 12:13:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 3532 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 12:13:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 3523 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 12:13:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 12:13:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 68B7219CE7; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:13:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E5ABA19CD6; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:13:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 25DA619CDA; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:12:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from collyer.net (collyer.net [63.192.14.226]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2E07019CD2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:12:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me From: Geoff Collyer In-Reply-To: <20030718165017.A1419@luchie.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-tycdglfwioavivlipfxzniqbfa" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 20:12:24 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-tycdglfwioavivlipfxzniqbfa Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Yes, but with some tree structure and naming too. I haven't used XML, but tree structure seems like a simple thing to provide, for example with indentation as Plan 9 prototype files and Python do: / sys man 1 cat doc fonts 9.ms Obviously each line could contain more than a simple file name component for general data representation. --upas-tycdglfwioavivlipfxzniqbfa Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from collyer.net ([10.9.0.3]) by collyer.net; Fri Jul 18 08:52:23 PDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by collyer.net; Fri Jul 18 08:52:22 PDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 85DAB19C74; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:52:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B759519C72; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:52:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 546D419C72; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:51:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 936FC19C6F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:51:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from luchie.demon.co.uk ([194.222.185.65] helo=luchie-chowchows.demon.co.uk) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 19dXWS-0001T9-0Z for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:51:53 +0100 Received: by luchie-chowchows.demon.co.uk (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:50:17 +0100 From: Dave Lukes To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me Message-ID: <20030718165017.A1419@luchie.demon.co.uk> References: <000501c34d3f$04b5af40$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22i Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:50:17 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Speaking as someone who's trained/used/sworn-at XML/XSLT/XSL-FO ... > > just drop me a few words, or just [1] .. [5] ;-) [1] .. [5] :-). What Trickey said, plus. Seriously, XML has it's uses. e.g. XSL-FO may one day be a tolerable troff replacement. (Although I'd hate to be an implementor of an XSL-FO processor: the reference documents sent me to sleep in record time). On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 05:23:25PM +0200, Fco. J. Ballesteros wrote: > IMHO, it's text data reinvented, with some help to automate parsing. Yes, but with some tree structure and naming too. One of the "interesting" "features" I've noticed about XML is the "if the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail" syndrome. You end up with XSLT (i.e. XML) programs manipulating XML data driven by XML configuration files and so ad infinitum. (Look at the Apache stuff, like ant for an example). (Yes, I know XSLT can _generate_ plain text, just about, but it can't _read_ it!) This disease will be familar to the Lispers out there. Cheers, Dave. --upas-tycdglfwioavivlipfxzniqbfa-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 12:46:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 12:46:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 4907 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 12:46:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 4903 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 12:46:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 12:46:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1334419CDF; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:46:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 54C3A19CD2; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:46:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8B60119CD2; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:45:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 33D4019BDE for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:45:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA19781 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:45:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h6J3je727417 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:45:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307190345.h6J3je727417@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 18 Jul 2003 20:12:24 PDT." From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:45:40 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > Yes, but with some tree structure and naming too. > > I haven't used XML, but tree structure seems like a simple thing to > provide, for example with indentation as Plan 9 prototype files and > Python do: > > / > sys > man > 1 > cat > doc > fonts > 9.ms > > Obviously each line could contain more than a simple file name > component for general data representation. I guess the one cool think about XML that you don't get with something like this is a way to name the data meaningfully and naturally. With XML, you can write something like the following:
123 Main Street Cherry Hill New Jersey 12345 USA
Now, looking beyond the hideous syntax for a moment, one thing jumps out: all the data is clearly labelled. I know that ``123 Main Street'' is a street address, and I can extract street addresses by name, instead of relying on it being in some conventional place in the record (ie, ``the first text field in each record is the street address''). Is that useful? Sometimes yes, more often no. But when it's needed, it's really needed and is indispensible. I contend the only real advantage of XML over other representations is that it forces data to be labelled (you can do this with sexp's, but it's not mandatory). Of course, 9 times out of 10, the labelling sucks and tells you nothing. The corresponding sexp might look something like the following, btw: (address (street "123 Main Street") (city "Cherry Hill") (state "New Jersey") (postcode "12345") (country "USA")) But the following: ("123 Main Street" ("Cherry Hill" "New Jersey") ("12345" "USA")) is also valid. Unfortunately, the latter example doesn't preserve any metainformation about the data; we as humans can look at this and say, ``oh, that looks like an address; 12345 is probably a zip code.'' But a computer has no idea, and I have no way to tell it other than by position. But what if I decide to add another field between the street address and City/State tuple? Say, an apartment number field? All of a sudden, my position-based extraction logic fails. At least with XML, that isn't a problem (in theory, anyway; like I said, the labelling can be totally bonheaded and meaningless). Scott Schwartz once proposed using LaTeX syntax for describing data in the same way one uses XML. It was a good idea, and we'd end up with something like: \begin{address} \street{123 Main Street} \city{Cherry Hill} \state{New Jersey} \postcode{12345} \country{USA} \end{address} Of course, that made too much sense and thus never caught on. It would have been a lot cleaner and more compact than using XML syntax, though. Oh well. Like anything else, XML has its place, but it's been shoe horned into 80 billion different places it doesn't belong. - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 13:10:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 13:10:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 6083 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 13:10:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 6079 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 13:10:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 13:10:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3C5F419CE4; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:10:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 98D9219C9F; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:10:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A8641199EE; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:09:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-09.noos.net [212.198.2.80]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 27F95199B3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:09:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 83872298 invoked by uid 0); 19 Jul 2003 03:49:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.80 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 19 Jul 2003 03:49:31 -0000 Message-ID: <02cd01c34da8$a68849e0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <200307190345.h6J3je727417@augusta.math.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 05:48:43 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Scott Schwartz once proposed using LaTeX ... don't get me started on LaTeX ... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 13:12:27 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 13:12:27 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 6150 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 13:12:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 6146 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 13:12:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 13:12:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E1E5A19CEC; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:12:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 103B919CE5; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:12:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 80F7419CE5; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:11:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 33B1C19CD2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:11:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA22489 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:11:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h6J4Bb727532 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:11:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307190411.h6J4Bb727532@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 19 Jul 2003 05:48:43 +0200." <02cd01c34da8$a68849e0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:11:37 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > Scott Schwartz once proposed using LaTeX ... > > don't get me started on LaTeX ... Well, it's not LaTeX itself he proposed using, just the syntax. btw- for Mathematics, give me LaTeX any day over eqn and troff. :-) - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 13:17:43 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 13:17:43 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 6329 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 13:17:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 6325 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 13:17:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 13:17:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 312CD19CEB; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:17:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8B6DF19CE5; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:17:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8961419CE5; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:16:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-01.noos.net [212.198.2.70]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 09FC319AE4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:16:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 42732877 invoked by uid 0); 19 Jul 2003 04:16:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.70 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 19 Jul 2003 04:16:54 -0000 Message-ID: <02ed01c34dac$75a272c0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <200307190411.h6J4Bb727532@augusta.math.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 06:15:59 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > btw- for Mathematics, give me LaTeX any day over eqn and troff. :-) god no. given me troff or give me death. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 13:20:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 13:20:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 6418 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 13:20:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 6414 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 13:20:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 13:20:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E137819CF5; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:20:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 25D9319CE8; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:20:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8E9E319AE4; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:19:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-11.noos.net [212.198.2.82]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C6D5819AE4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:19:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 111415837 invoked by uid 0); 19 Jul 2003 04:19:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.82 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 19 Jul 2003 04:19:42 -0000 Message-ID: <02ee01c34dac$d9852080$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <200307190345.h6J3je727417@augusta.math.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 06:18:47 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) XML strikes me like MIME; by about the 4th MIME doc Coppola's quote [re: Apocalypse Now] from Hearts Of Darkness is earily appropriate: we had too much money and too much equipment and, slowly, but surely, we went insane which perfectly parallels the war police action. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 13:21:22 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 13:21:22 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 6451 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 13:21:22 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 6447 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 13:21:22 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 13:21:22 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9524819CFA; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:21:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D633019CE8; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:21:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5F45519AE4; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:20:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from collyer.net (p9auth.collyer.net [63.192.14.226]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8D80019CE5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:20:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <7571343254e27409b598058cc65c36aa@collyer.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me From: Geoff Collyer In-Reply-To: <200307190345.h6J3je727417@augusta.math.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 21:20:06 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Labelling is compatible with my suggestion. One possibility would be to use NOV extension-field syntax without the colons: address street 600 Mountain Ave. city Murray Hill state NJ postcode 07974-2070 country USA or something that more obviously permits arbitrary substructure: address country USA postcode 07974-2070 state NJ city Murray Hill street number 600 name Mountain Ave. or even reflects the geographical hierarchy of the address: address country USA postcode 07974-2070 state NJ city Murray Hill street Mountain Ave. number 600 building 2 section C room 501 person G. R. Emlin None of these possibilities require the visible punctuation of either XML or Lisp, and I've come to appreciate the lack of visual noise. Presotto's wonderful pseudo-XML, I haven't
an
opinion. strikes me as JCL for the 21st century. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 13:28:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 13:28:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 6620 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 13:28:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 6615 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 13:28:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 13:28:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A3DF319CF0; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:28:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C2D4219CD1; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:28:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DA70619CC8; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:27:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-11.noos.net [212.198.2.82]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5993E19A15 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:27:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 111397868 invoked by uid 0); 19 Jul 2003 04:27:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.82 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 19 Jul 2003 04:27:00 -0000 Message-ID: <02f801c34dad$de68d8c0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <7571343254e27409b598058cc65c36aa@collyer.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 06:26:05 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) looks a bit like bib, no? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 15:46:41 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 15:46:41 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 9790 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 15:46:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 9786 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 15:46:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 15:46:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 59B0319CF6; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 02:46:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D97BA19CE8; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 02:46:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1096919CC3; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 02:45:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from priv-edtnes10-hme0.telusplanet.net (outbound02.telus.net [199.185.220.221]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 72CA519C23 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 02:45:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([66.183.146.206]) by priv-edtnes10-hme0.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with ESMTP id <20030719064510.GALL2384.priv-edtnes10-hme0.telusplanet.net@localhost.localdomain> for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:45:10 -0600 Received: (qmail 1147 invoked by uid 500); 19 Jul 2003 06:45:41 -0000 From: Taj Khattra To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me Message-ID: <20030719064541.GA958@localhost.localdomain> References: <000501c34d3f$04b5af40$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000501c34d3f$04b5af40$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:45:41 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 05:12:35PM +0200, pac wrote: > > as an absolute amateur (and before diving into) i would like to know your > opinion on XML > see http://www.research.avayalabs.com/user/wadler/language.pdf :) joe armstrong (erlang guy) has proposed ubf: http://www.sics.se/~joe/ubf/site/home.html -taj From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 15:52:45 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 15:52:45 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 9913 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 15:52:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 9909 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 15:52:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 15:52:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B2CC619CFF; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 02:52:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5256F19CFC; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 02:52:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2692819CF9; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 02:51:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-01.noos.net [212.198.2.70]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9B1BC19CEF for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 02:51:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 42782716 invoked by uid 0); 19 Jul 2003 06:51:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.70 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 19 Jul 2003 06:51:07 -0000 Message-ID: <001d01c34dc2$1e014620$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <000501c34d3f$04b5af40$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> <20030719064541.GA958@localhost.localdomain> Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 08:51:01 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > joe armstrong (erlang guy) has proposed ubf: Unified Bullshit Fuckup? it's been a long night, m'lud ... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 20:21:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 20:21:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15091 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 20:21:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15087 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 20:21:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 20:21:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 44AA219D06; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 07:21:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 823B319AF1; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 07:21:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 00AAD19D03; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 07:20:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wmail.atlantic.net (wmail.atlantic.net [209.208.0.84]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 7459E199EE for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 07:20:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31783 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 11:20:00 -0000 Received: from cpe-203-51-78-31.nsw.bigpond.net.au (HELO cc77109e) (203.51.78.31) by wmail.atlantic.net with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 11:20:00 -0000 Message-ID: <004201c34de7$b235cbc0$c901a8c0@cc77109e> From: "Bruce Ellis" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <000501c34d3f$04b5af40$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> <20030719064541.GA958@localhost.localdomain> <001d01c34dc2$1e014620$b9844051@insultant.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me Organization: www.chunder.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 21:19:58 +1000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) this works for me, but sure the parser took some careful treading (it's nearly 2000 lines but does pass all conformance tests i've seen). there is a fine line between the annoyance factor of "being strict" and knowing that you are presented with well-formed data. ]> From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 19 20:43:40 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 19 20:43:40 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15361 invoked by uid 1020); 19 Jul 2003 20:43:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15357 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2003 20:43:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 20:43:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 81C7319D0D; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 07:43:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F179B19D03; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 07:43:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BDAED19D04; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 07:42:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-07.noos.net [212.198.2.76]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3F47F19C9F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 07:42:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26148443 invoked by uid 0); 19 Jul 2003 11:41:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.76 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 19 Jul 2003 11:41:58 -0000 Message-ID: <00fe01c34dea$bfb37100$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <000501c34d3f$04b5af40$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> <20030719064541.GA958@localhost.localdomain> <001d01c34dc2$1e014620$b9844051@insultant.net> <004201c34de7$b235cbc0$c901a8c0@cc77109e> Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 13:41:52 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > there is a fine line between the annoyance factor of "being strict" > and knowing that you are presented with well-formed data. not known to work in finite time, but the code is huge ... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 20 01:12:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 20 01:12:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20246 invoked by uid 1020); 20 Jul 2003 01:12:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20242 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2003 01:12:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 20 Jul 2003 01:12:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1871219CD5; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 12:12:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A0C8F19CD3; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 12:12:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 34B3A19CD3; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 12:11:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.183]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 88ECB19CCE for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 12:11:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from adsl-67-38-31-8.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (HELO ameritech.net) (dbailey27@ameritech.net@67.38.31.8 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2003 16:11:14 -0000 Message-ID: <3F197BD5.4050303@ameritech.net> From: northern snowfall User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020518 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] guh 2, 3 and 4 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 12:11:49 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Heyas, Thanks to everyone that responded with yesterday's "guh" request. I've got several more for ya'll. I've read quite a few OS sources for the i8042, i8253 and the i8254. Now, I've even written successful code for my own OS based on the code from other Operating Systems. The problem is that it never feels like I know what I'm doing. What I need to do is find some documentation on these devices, and I can't seem to find any. Frankly, I'm sick of spending time searching when I've got other things to do. Maybe my search technique is lacking, but I'd rather ask when I'm havin trouble than sit around and wish. Thanks in advance, Don http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 20 01:30:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 20 01:30:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20699 invoked by uid 1020); 20 Jul 2003 01:30:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20695 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2003 01:30:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 20 Jul 2003 01:30:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 52D4F19CF4; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 12:30:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D818D19B50; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 12:30:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1934419B50; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 12:29:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailrelay3.lanl.gov (mailrelay3.lanl.gov [128.165.4.104]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 66D2119AD3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 12:29:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay3.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6JGTMFH016315 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:29:22 -0600 Received: from maxroach.lanl.gov (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6JGTMAO005693 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:29:22 -0600 From: ron minnich To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] guh 2, 3 and 4 In-Reply-To: <3F197BD5.4050303@ameritech.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.35 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:29:21 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, northern snowfall wrote: > What I need to do is find some documentation on these > devices, and I can't seem to find any. Frankly, I'm sick > of spending time searching when I've got other things to > do. Maybe my search technique is lacking, but I'd rather > ask when I'm havin trouble than sit around and wish. we had similar problems in linuxbios. You can try finding southbridge chipset docs, such as the Intel PIIX4E, that have integrated these devices. Believe it or not, on even the newest chipsets, there is legacy hardware emulation of "PC80" hardware, i.e. the chips used in the IBM PC in 1980. developer.intel.com has the PIIX4E docs,but I forget the official chip #. ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 20 01:44:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 20 01:44:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21011 invoked by uid 1020); 20 Jul 2003 01:44:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21007 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2003 01:44:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 20 Jul 2003 01:44:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 521BE19CFC; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 12:44:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E3C4219B50; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 12:44:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 969BA19CFB; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 12:43:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-04.noos.net [212.198.2.73]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0FFC919B4B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 12:43:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31694412 invoked by uid 0); 19 Jul 2003 16:43:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ntmail.noos.fr) ([195.132.21.247]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.73 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 19 Jul 2003 16:43:54 -0000 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030719184330.00a98ec0@pop.noos.fr> X-Sender: philippe.anel@pop.noos.fr X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Philippe Anel Subject: Re: [9fans] guh 2, 3 and 4 In-Reply-To: References: <3F197BD5.4050303@ameritech.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 18:45:01 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) At 10:29 19/07/03 -0600, you wrote: >On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, northern snowfall wrote: > > > What I need to do is find some documentation on these > > devices, and I can't seem to find any. Frankly, I'm sick > > of spending time searching when I've got other things to > > do. Maybe my search technique is lacking, but I'd rather > > ask when I'm havin trouble than sit around and wish. > >we had similar problems in linuxbios. You can try finding southbridge >chipset docs, such as the Intel PIIX4E, that have integrated these >devices. Believe it or not, on even the newest chipsets, there is legacy >hardware emulation of "PC80" hardware, i.e. the chips used in the IBM PC >in 1980. > >developer.intel.com has the PIIX4E docs,but I forget the official chip #. ftpfs download.intel.com cd /n/ftp/design/chipsets/manuals/ Philippe, From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 20 03:02:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 20 03:02:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 22893 invoked by uid 1020); 20 Jul 2003 03:02:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 22888 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2003 03:02:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 20 Jul 2003 03:02:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B59AB19CF8; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 14:02:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 55CC419B27; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 14:02:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C250B19B2E; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 14:01:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7841B19B1F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 14:01:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Sat Jul 19 14:01:24 EDT 2003 Received: from 209.23.14.46 ([209.23.14.46]) by plan9; Sat Jul 19 14:01:21 EDT 2003 Message-ID: <97df4fa24fce9c9c3ef0814b3a9cc3fb@plan9.bell-labs.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Looking for some sources From: "Russ Cox" In-Reply-To: <20030717180240.F16922@alchar.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 13:25:30 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > It seems that there are no sources included in the Plan9 4th Ed release for > the aux/vmmousepoll and aux/vmwarefs binaries (unless I am looking in the > wrong places). Are they available anywhere, or are they closed sources in > agreement with VMWare? I'm mainly interested in them from a curiosity > perspective since I worked on trying to get Plan9 to run in VMWare a couple > of years ago myself. In general, you can run src -n /bin/rio to find the source file for a binary (well, for main). If you do this, you'll find that aux/vmmousepoll and aux/vmwarefs have no distributed sources (and not even debugging symbols) as per my agreement with VMware (as you guessed). You can poke around in /mnt/vmware to see what kinds of things the programs give access to, though. Russ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 20 03:02:48 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 20 03:02:48 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 22905 invoked by uid 1020); 20 Jul 2003 03:02:48 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 22901 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2003 03:02:47 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 20 Jul 2003 03:02:47 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 44E8519CFB; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 14:02:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8524D19D01; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 14:02:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6220719B2E; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 14:01:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1AB0D19B1F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 14:01:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Sat Jul 19 14:01:32 EDT 2003 Received: from 209.23.14.46 ([209.23.14.46]) by plan9; Sat Jul 19 14:01:29 EDT 2003 Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Laptop and VM software From: "Russ Cox" In-Reply-To: <53d09c64c314eb2c75ac4aee7d17b778@plan9.bell-labs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 13:28:30 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > VMware is the only choice. Virtual PC doesn't implement the PC it says it does and > Plan 9 finds that out. It might not be that hard to get Plan 9 going under VPC, but no one has done the work. Russ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 20 07:16:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 20 07:16:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 28645 invoked by uid 1020); 20 Jul 2003 07:16:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 28641 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2003 07:16:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 20 Jul 2003 07:16:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B93DC19D05; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 18:16:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2CABC19B56; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 18:16:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4352D19C56; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 18:15:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from collyer.net (p9auth.collyer.net [63.192.14.226]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8CAD7199B3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 18:15:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <8600f5b2ce45d0bdec55c14fa9c1b680@collyer.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] guh 2, 3 and 4 From: Geoff Collyer In-Reply-To: <3F197BD5.4050303@ameritech.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 15:15:15 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) The information can be somewhat scattered and I've found old books on the PC to sometimes be quite helpful. Sometimes the actual standards are quite expensive (e.g., SCSI and PCI). 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Sometimes the actual standards are quite expensive (e.g., SCSI and PCI). From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 20 14:03:40 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 20 14:03:40 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 5383 invoked by uid 1020); 20 Jul 2003 14:03:38 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 5379 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2003 14:03:38 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 20 Jul 2003 14:03:38 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 884F319D11; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 01:03:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EF05319AD8; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 01:03:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9D5F119B17; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 01:02:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.foobarbaz.net (unknown [64.71.129.86]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5451019AC1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 01:02:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.foobarbaz.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D3BC866B2A; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 22:02:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Nielsen To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: <20030720050244.GG63873@cassie.foobarbaz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Subject: [9fans] fossil and auth Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: cnielsen@pobox.com List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 22:02:44 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I have setup a standalone fossil/venti fileserver. I also have a standalone auth server. When I try to attach to main on the fileserver, I am getting authentication failures. There are no errors in the logs on the auth server. The output on fscons is: attach main as madhatter: phase error protocol phase error: read in state SNeedTicket Any clues as to what I might have done wrong? -- Christopher Nielsen "They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 20 16:25:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 20 16:25:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 9014 invoked by uid 1020); 20 Jul 2003 16:25:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 9010 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2003 16:25:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 20 Jul 2003 16:25:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4201C19D17; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 03:25:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 844CE19B1C; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 03:25:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 344C219B1C; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 03:24:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-07.noos.net [212.198.2.76]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A5AED19B0E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 03:24:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26615695 invoked by uid 0); 20 Jul 2003 07:24:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.76 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 20 Jul 2003 07:24:24 -0000 Message-ID: <007e01c34e8f$ee38de20$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: [9fans] sam Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 09:24:17 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) damn, that editor is a masterpiece. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 20 22:29:49 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 20 22:29:49 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 16655 invoked by uid 1020); 20 Jul 2003 22:29:38 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 16651 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2003 22:29:38 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 20 Jul 2003 22:29:38 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 72B0319B20; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 09:29:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D0BB51999B; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 09:29:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A1A5A19AFC; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 09:28:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4F2CA19AA5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 09:28:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] fossil and auth In-Reply-To: <20030720050244.GG63873@cassie.foobarbaz.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-tzaohddpobwfgzahigukbhmtfo" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 09:28:35 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-tzaohddpobwfgzahigukbhmtfo Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit what authentication errors are you getting on the calling system? In a window, 'echo -n debug > /mnt/factotum/ctl' then 'cat /dev/kprint'. In another window, try the attach. Most likely, the caller doesn't know which auth server to use for the auth domain of the file server and is just hanging up. --upas-tzaohddpobwfgzahigukbhmtfo Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Sun Jul 20 01:03:31 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Sun Jul 20 01:03:28 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0B3A019D13; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 01:03:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C624A19AC1; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 01:03:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9D5F119B17; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 01:02:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.foobarbaz.net (unknown [64.71.129.86]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5451019AC1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 01:02:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.foobarbaz.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D3BC866B2A; Sat, 19 Jul 2003 22:02:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Nielsen To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: <20030720050244.GG63873@cassie.foobarbaz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Subject: [9fans] fossil and auth Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: cnielsen@pobox.com List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 22:02:44 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I have setup a standalone fossil/venti fileserver. I also have a standalone auth server. When I try to attach to main on the fileserver, I am getting authentication failures. There are no errors in the logs on the auth server. The output on fscons is: attach main as madhatter: phase error protocol phase error: read in state SNeedTicket Any clues as to what I might have done wrong? -- Christopher Nielsen "They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin --upas-tzaohddpobwfgzahigukbhmtfo-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 21 01:49:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 21 01:49:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20505 invoked by uid 1020); 21 Jul 2003 01:49:38 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20501 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 01:49:38 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 01:49:38 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4A58719AA5; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 12:49:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7722719A0C; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 12:49:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 61A6019AA5; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 12:48:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailrelay1.lanl.gov (mailrelay1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.101]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B147919A94 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 12:48:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay1.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6KGmuZm022624 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 10:48:56 -0600 Received: from maxroach.lanl.gov (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6KGmuAO029025 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 10:48:56 -0600 From: ron minnich To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] guh 2, 3 and 4 In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030719184330.00a98ec0@pop.noos.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.35 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 10:48:55 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, Philippe Anel wrote: > >developer.intel.com has the PIIX4E docs,but I forget the official chip #. > > ftpfs download.intel.com > cd /n/ftp/design/chipsets/manuals/ I got it. The part # is 82371EB PCI-TO-ISA/IDE Xcelerator you can search for that on the web site. The writeup on the various "pc80" bits is useful. ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 21 02:21:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 21 02:21:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21195 invoked by uid 1020); 21 Jul 2003 02:21:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21191 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 02:21:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 02:21:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B6B3B19B17; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 13:21:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 151CE19AFC; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 13:21:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A76B719AF3; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 13:20:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.183]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 3440319AE3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 13:20:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from adsl-67-38-31-8.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (HELO ameritech.net) (dbailey27@ameritech.net@67.38.31.8 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jul 2003 17:20:54 -0000 Message-ID: <3F1ADDA8.2010309@ameritech.net> From: northern snowfall User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020518 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] guh 2, 3 and 4 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 13:21:28 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > >I got it. The part # is 82371EB PCI-TO-ISA/IDE Xcelerator > Nice; thanks, Ron Don http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 21 05:21:41 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 21 05:21:41 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 24023 invoked by uid 1020); 21 Jul 2003 05:21:40 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 24019 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 05:21:39 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 05:21:39 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D3D9919AF5; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 16:21:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2B60019AED; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 16:21:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6940319AFC; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 16:20:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgristroph-austin.ath.cx (cs24362-19.austin.rr.com [24.243.62.19]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D9EB319AED for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 16:20:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgr by rgristroph-austin.ath.cx with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19eKhN-0004RZ-00; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 15:22:25 -0500 From: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org (Rob Ristroph) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: <87d6g5gd8e.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> Lines: 90 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [9fans] MBR and nvidia hangups Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: 20 Jul 2003 15:22:25 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi, I've been doing some tests this Sunday morning and here are my results: A normal Plan 9 install, where Plan 9 is the only thing on a 60 GB disk (except I also made a boot floppy): Doesn't overwrite MBR, previously not working MBR gives an error message (depends on what was left in there). Also the boot floppy wants to ream the filesystem and then panics when I use it. Start over, re-install, this time at the [bootsetup] prompt in addition to selecting plan9 as the method, I open another window and type: disk/mbr -m /386/pbslba /dev/sdC0 On reboot the machine hangs after "Verifying DMI Pool Data ......." (which is also what happens if there is no MBR at all). I boot from the install disk, make a new window, and run: disk/mbr -m /386/pbs /dev/sdC0/data This results in the message "I/0 err" followed by junk characters. I did the same but this time used the command: disk/mbr -m /386/mbr /dev/sdC0/data And that worked well enough that I got to type "glenda" to log in for the first time in weeks ! But it hung shortly after that on the "kfs . . .version" stage. Figuring I might finally have a working MBR, I re-imaged the install floppy fresh and started in again. It quickly did a "mountfs" and then I chose to keep the plan 9 filesystem instead of wiping it; that hung doing something for longer than it should take to wipe it, so I rebooted, and this time wiped it and re-installed everything. It now boots, allows me to select the disk or network, and log in as glenda. However, no rio comes up: init: starting /bin/rc aux/vga: nvidia: can't attach mmio segment dossrv: serving #s/dos rio: can't open display: initdisplay: /dev/draw/new: no frame buffer init: rc exit status: rio 13: display open init: starting /bin/rc term% (Note this is a card which was previously running Plan 9 in graphical mode just fine, and will come up in graphical mode from the installation floppy.) I did 9fat: cat /n/9fat/plan9.ini but the plan9.ini file looked normal. This is essentially where I was on the 6th of July, when I wiped my drive with zeros in an attempt to make sure I had a fresh install. However, I moved the drive to a machine that had an S3 video card instead of the nvidia. Then it booted fine, giving me a working Plan 9 with rio and everything. In conclusion: 1) We have some work to do on the MBR/bootloader part of the installation procedure. Once I finish configuring my machine I might try to take apart the installation floppy and find the installation program on it. Any suggestions on that ? 2) We might have broken nvidia chip support ? This seems improbable, but my card does still behave normally with knoppix. I won't investigate this further right now, because I know where I can buy an S3 Virge for $5 and I'm on my way there now. 3) Now I can start figuring out how to authenticate and share services between my two Plan 9 machines, and shortly, other peoples ! Cheers, --Rob From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 21 08:52:42 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 21 08:52:42 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27552 invoked by uid 1020); 21 Jul 2003 08:52:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27548 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 08:52:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 08:52:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 97DAD19B35; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:52:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C52E219A19; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:52:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 68FB819B28; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:51:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from galapagos.cse.psu.edu (galapagos.cse.psu.edu [130.203.12.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 0A21D19A19 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:51:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11225 invoked by uid 991); 20 Jul 2003 23:51:29 -0000 Message-ID: <20030720235129.11224.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----- =_aaaaaaaaaa0" Content-ID: <11219.1058744919.0@bio.cse.psu.edu> From: Scott Schwartz Subject: [9fans] ppp patches Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:51:29 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <11219.1058744919.1@bio.cse.psu.edu> Here's a suggested change to ppp, to provide better support for chat scripts. The main idea is to allow tokens like USER, PASSWD, SERVER and to let factotum hand over the real values, so you can dial completely non-interactively. The server flag does double duty: it lets you store multiple ppp credentials inside factotum and also uses the name of the server as the phone number to dial. Absent the -s flag, it tries to deduce from the name of the chat file or from the telco string. Examples, ppp -b 115200 -f -P -u -M telco.chat -p telco!5552222 ppp -b 115200 -f -P -u -M modem.chat -p /dev/eia1 -s 5552222 ppp -b 115200 -f -P -u -M 5552222.chat -p /dev/eia1 This is lightly tested, so let me know if anything goes wrong. ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: <11219.1058744919.2@bio.cse.psu.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable #include #include #include #include "chat.h" // XXX - make these parameters? extern int debug; extern char servername[128]; #define RLEN 1024 #define TIMEOUT (60*1000) int chat(int ifd, int ofd, char *chatfile) { int chatfd, lineno, nb; char *script, *p, *s, response[RLEN]; Dir *dir; UserPasswd *up; if ((chatfd =3D open(chatfile, OREAD)) < 0) sysfatal("cannot open %s: %r", chatfile); if ((dir =3D dirfstat(chatfd)) =3D=3D nil) sysfatal("cannot fstat %s: %r",chatfile); script =3D (char *)malloc(dir->length + 1); assert(script); if ((nb =3D read(chatfd, script, dir->length)) < 0) sysfatal("cannot read chatfile %s: %r", chatfile); assert(nb =3D=3D dir->length); script[dir->length] =3D '\0'; free(dir); close(chatfd); p =3D script; lineno =3D 0; while (1) { char *_args[3]; if ((s =3D strchr(p, '\n')) =3D=3D nil) break; *s++ =3D '\0'; = lineno++; if (*p =3D=3D '#') { p =3D s; = continue; } if (tokenize(p, _args, 3) !=3D 2) sysfatal("invalid line %d (line expected: 'send' 'expect')", = lineno); if (strcmp(_args[0], "USER") =3D=3D 0) { up =3D getuserpass(); _args[0] =3D up->user; } else if (strcmp(_args[0], "PASSWD") =3D=3D 0) { up =3D getuserpass(); _args[0] =3D up->passwd; } else if (strcmp(_args[0], "SERVER") =3D=3D 0) { _args[0] =3D servername; } else if (strcmp(_args[0], "CRNL") =3D=3D 0) { _args[0] =3D "\r\n"; } else if (strcmp(_args[0], "CR") =3D=3D 0) { _args[0] =3D "\r"; } else if (strcmp(_args[0], "NL") =3D=3D 0) { _args[0] =3D "\n"; } else if (strcmp(_args[0], "PAUSE") =3D=3D 0) { sleep(5000); _args[0] =3D ""; } if (debug) fprint(2, "sending =E2=80=9C%s=E2=80=9D, expecting =E2=80=9C%s=E2=80=9D= \n", _args[0], _args[1]); if ((nb =3D write(ofd, _args[0], strlen(_args[0]))) < 0) sysfatal("cannot write %ss: %r", _args[0]); assert(nb =3D=3D strlen(_args[0])); if (strlen(_args[1]) > 0) { char *rp =3D response; char *ep =3D response+sizeof(response)-1; int found =3D 0; alarm(TIMEOUT); while ((nb =3D read(ifd, rp, 1)) >=3D 0 && rp < ep) { if (debug) fprint(2, "response %02x %c\n", *rp, *rp); rp +=3D nb; *rp =3D 0; found =3D cistrstr(response, _args[1]) !=3D nil; if (found) { if (debug) fprint(2, "found =E2=80=9C%s=E2=80=9D\n", response); break; } } alarm(0); if (nb < 0) sysfatal("cannot read response from: %r"); if (nb =3D=3D 0) sysfatal("eof on input?\n"); if (!found) sysfatal("expected %s, got %s\n", _args[1], response); } p =3D s; } free(script); return 1; } ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <11219.1058744919.3@bio.cse.psu.edu> extern UserPasswd *getuserpass(void); extern int chat(int,int,char*); ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <11219.1058744919.4@bio.cse.psu.edu> # send expect ATQ0V1E0M1S0=0 '' atdt '' SERVER '' CR 'CONNECT' # PAUSE '' CRNL ':' # USER '' CRNL : # PASSWD '' CRNL : # ppp '' CRNL ~ ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <11219.1058744919.5@bio.cse.psu.edu> term% diff /sys/src/cmd/ip/ppp . Only in .: 8632222.chat Only in .: chat.c Only in .: chat.h diff /sys/src/cmd/ip/ppp/mkfile ./mkfile 11a12 > chat.$O\ Only in .: modem.chat diff /sys/src/cmd/ip/ppp/ppp.c ./ppp.c 8a9 > #include "chat.h" 24a26 > char servername[PATH]; 2512,2572c2514,2519 < int chatfd, lineno, nb; < char *buf, *p, *s, response[128]; < Dir *dir; < < if ((chatfd = open(chatfile, OREAD)) < 0) < sysfatal("cannot open %s: %r", chatfile); < < if ((dir = dirfstat(chatfd)) == nil) < sysfatal("cannot fstat %s: %r",chatfile); < < buf = (char *)malloc(dir->length + 1); < assert(buf); < < if ((nb = read(chatfd, buf, dir->length)) < 0) < sysfatal("cannot read chatfile %s: %r", chatfile); < assert(nb == dir->length); < buf[dir->length] = '\0'; < free(dir); < close(chatfd); < < p = buf; < lineno = 0; < while (1) { < char *_args[3]; < < if ((s = strchr(p, '\n')) == nil) < break; < *s++ = '\0'; < < lineno++; < < if (*p == '#') { < p = s; < continue; < } < < if (tokenize(p, _args, 3) != 2) < sysfatal("invalid line %d (line expected: 'send' 'expect')", < lineno); < < if (debug) < print("sending %s, expecting %s\n", _args[0], _args[1]); < < if ((nb = write(fd, _args[0], strlen(_args[0]))) < 0) < sysfatal("cannot write %ss: %r", _args[0]); < assert(nb == strlen(_args[0])); < < if (strlen(_args[1]) > 0) { < if ((nb = read(fd, response, sizeof response)) < 0) < sysfatal("cannot read response from: %r"); < < if (debug) < print("response %s\n", response); < < if (nb == 0) < sysfatal("eof on input?\n"); < < if (cistrstr(response, _args[1]) == nil) < sysfatal("expected %s, got %s\n", _args[1], response); < } < p = s; --- > // Try to deduce the server name from the chatfile name. > if (!*servername) { > char *p; > strecpy(servername, servername+PATH-1, chatfile); > if ((p=strstr(servername, ".chat"))) > *p = 0; 2574c2521 < free(buf); --- > chat(fd, fd, chatfile); 2576c2523 < } --- > }; 2632c2579 < fprint(2, "usage: ppp [-cCdfPSu] [-b baud] [-k keyspec] [-m mtu] [-p dev] [-s username] [-x netmntpt] [-t modemcmd] [local-addr [remote-addr]]\n"); --- > fprint(2, "usage: ppp [-cCdfPSu] [-b baud] [-k keyspec] [-m mtu] [-p dev] [-s servername] [-x netmntpt] [-t modemcmd] [local-addr [remote-addr]]\n"); 2706a2654,2656 > case 's': > snprint(servername, PATH, "%s", EARGF(usage())); > break; 2743a2694,2701 > // If we don't have a user specified server name, > // try to deduce one from the dial string. > if(!*servername) { > char *p = strchr(dev,'!'); > snprint(servername, PATH, "%s", p+1); > p = strchr(servername, '!'); > if (p) *p = 0; > } 2751a2710 > 2885a2845,2855 > UserPasswd * > getuserpass() > { > if (servername[0]==0) > return auth_getuserpasswd(auth_getkey, > "proto=pass service=ppp %s", keyspec); > else > return auth_getuserpasswd(auth_getkey, > "proto=pass service=ppp server=%s %s", servername, keyspec); > } > 2893,2895c2863,2864 < < up = auth_getuserpasswd(auth_getkey,"proto=pass service=ppp %s", keyspec); < if(up != nil){ --- > > if((up = getuserpass()) != nil){ 2899a2869 > Only in .: telco.chat Only in .: try ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <11219.1058744919.6@bio.cse.psu.edu> # send expect PAUSE '' CRNL ':' # USER '' CRNL : # PASSWD '' CRNL : # ppp '' CRNL ~ ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 21 09:49:42 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 21 09:49:42 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 28662 invoked by uid 1020); 21 Jul 2003 09:49:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 28658 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 09:49:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 09:49:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1EF6B19B45; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 20:49:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8396919B3F; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 20:49:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0B4F119B2E; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 20:48:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8D50F19A99 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 20:48:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <7ce34037c3cbd6915eeb039abcdbd617@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] ppp patches In-Reply-To: <20030720235129.11224.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-wyhgrvwyhuscqwqwxdpapvphpx" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 20:48:50 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-wyhgrvwyhuscqwqwxdpapvphpx Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, I've been trying to get rid of the cat stuff in favor of the dial/expect, dial/at stuff. Since this can be embedded in a shell script with a control structure, I find it a lot more powerful than our chat scripts. I'ld rather see the effort go there than turning the chat scripts into another rc. --upas-wyhgrvwyhuscqwqwxdpapvphpx Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Sun Jul 20 19:52:27 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Sun Jul 20 19:52:25 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id ED0C219B31; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:52:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8213C19A05; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:52:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 68FB819B28; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:51:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from galapagos.cse.psu.edu (galapagos.cse.psu.edu [130.203.12.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 0A21D19A19 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:51:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11225 invoked by uid 991); 20 Jul 2003 23:51:29 -0000 Message-ID: <20030720235129.11224.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----- =_aaaaaaaaaa0" Content-ID: <11219.1058744919.0@bio.cse.psu.edu> From: Scott Schwartz Subject: [9fans] ppp patches Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:51:29 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <11219.1058744919.1@bio.cse.psu.edu> Here's a suggested change to ppp, to provide better support for chat scripts. The main idea is to allow tokens like USER, PASSWD, SERVER and to let factotum hand over the real values, so you can dial completely non-interactively. The server flag does double duty: it lets you store multiple ppp credentials inside factotum and also uses the name of the server as the phone number to dial. Absent the -s flag, it tries to deduce from the name of the chat file or from the telco string. Examples, ppp -b 115200 -f -P -u -M telco.chat -p telco!5552222 ppp -b 115200 -f -P -u -M modem.chat -p /dev/eia1 -s 5552222 ppp -b 115200 -f -P -u -M 5552222.chat -p /dev/eia1 This is lightly tested, so let me know if anything goes wrong. ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: <11219.1058744919.2@bio.cse.psu.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable #include #include #include #include "chat.h" // XXX - make these parameters? extern int debug; extern char servername[128]; #define RLEN 1024 #define TIMEOUT (60*1000) int chat(int ifd, int ofd, char *chatfile) { int chatfd, lineno, nb; char *script, *p, *s, response[RLEN]; Dir *dir; UserPasswd *up; if ((chatfd =3D open(chatfile, OREAD)) < 0) sysfatal("cannot open %s: %r", chatfile); if ((dir =3D dirfstat(chatfd)) =3D=3D nil) sysfatal("cannot fstat %s: %r",chatfile); script =3D (char *)malloc(dir->length + 1); assert(script); if ((nb =3D read(chatfd, script, dir->length)) < 0) sysfatal("cannot read chatfile %s: %r", chatfile); assert(nb =3D=3D dir->length); script[dir->length] =3D '\0'; free(dir); close(chatfd); p =3D script; lineno =3D 0; while (1) { char *_args[3]; if ((s =3D strchr(p, '\n')) =3D=3D nil) break; *s++ =3D '\0'; = lineno++; if (*p =3D=3D '#') { p =3D s; = continue; } if (tokenize(p, _args, 3) !=3D 2) sysfatal("invalid line %d (line expected: 'send' 'expect')", = lineno); if (strcmp(_args[0], "USER") =3D=3D 0) { up =3D getuserpass(); _args[0] =3D up->user; } else if (strcmp(_args[0], "PASSWD") =3D=3D 0) { up =3D getuserpass(); _args[0] =3D up->passwd; } else if (strcmp(_args[0], "SERVER") =3D=3D 0) { _args[0] =3D servername; } else if (strcmp(_args[0], "CRNL") =3D=3D 0) { _args[0] =3D "\r\n"; } else if (strcmp(_args[0], "CR") =3D=3D 0) { _args[0] =3D "\r"; } else if (strcmp(_args[0], "NL") =3D=3D 0) { _args[0] =3D "\n"; } else if (strcmp(_args[0], "PAUSE") =3D=3D 0) { sleep(5000); _args[0] =3D ""; } if (debug) fprint(2, "sending =E2=80=9C%s=E2=80=9D, expecting =E2=80=9C%s=E2=80=9D= \n", _args[0], _args[1]); if ((nb =3D write(ofd, _args[0], strlen(_args[0]))) < 0) sysfatal("cannot write %ss: %r", _args[0]); assert(nb =3D=3D strlen(_args[0])); if (strlen(_args[1]) > 0) { char *rp =3D response; char *ep =3D response+sizeof(response)-1; int found =3D 0; alarm(TIMEOUT); while ((nb =3D read(ifd, rp, 1)) >=3D 0 && rp < ep) { if (debug) fprint(2, "response %02x %c\n", *rp, *rp); rp +=3D nb; *rp =3D 0; found =3D cistrstr(response, _args[1]) !=3D nil; if (found) { if (debug) fprint(2, "found =E2=80=9C%s=E2=80=9D\n", response); break; } } alarm(0); if (nb < 0) sysfatal("cannot read response from: %r"); if (nb =3D=3D 0) sysfatal("eof on input?\n"); if (!found) sysfatal("expected %s, got %s\n", _args[1], response); } p =3D s; } free(script); return 1; } ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <11219.1058744919.3@bio.cse.psu.edu> extern UserPasswd *getuserpass(void); extern int chat(int,int,char*); ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <11219.1058744919.4@bio.cse.psu.edu> # send expect ATQ0V1E0M1S0=0 '' atdt '' SERVER '' CR 'CONNECT' # PAUSE '' CRNL ':' # USER '' CRNL : # PASSWD '' CRNL : # ppp '' CRNL ~ ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <11219.1058744919.5@bio.cse.psu.edu> term% diff /sys/src/cmd/ip/ppp . Only in .: 8632222.chat Only in .: chat.c Only in .: chat.h diff /sys/src/cmd/ip/ppp/mkfile ./mkfile 11a12 > chat.$O\ Only in .: modem.chat diff /sys/src/cmd/ip/ppp/ppp.c ./ppp.c 8a9 > #include "chat.h" 24a26 > char servername[PATH]; 2512,2572c2514,2519 < int chatfd, lineno, nb; < char *buf, *p, *s, response[128]; < Dir *dir; < < if ((chatfd = open(chatfile, OREAD)) < 0) < sysfatal("cannot open %s: %r", chatfile); < < if ((dir = dirfstat(chatfd)) == nil) < sysfatal("cannot fstat %s: %r",chatfile); < < buf = (char *)malloc(dir->length + 1); < assert(buf); < < if ((nb = read(chatfd, buf, dir->length)) < 0) < sysfatal("cannot read chatfile %s: %r", chatfile); < assert(nb == dir->length); < buf[dir->length] = '\0'; < free(dir); < close(chatfd); < < p = buf; < lineno = 0; < while (1) { < char *_args[3]; < < if ((s = strchr(p, '\n')) == nil) < break; < *s++ = '\0'; < < lineno++; < < if (*p == '#') { < p = s; < continue; < } < < if (tokenize(p, _args, 3) != 2) < sysfatal("invalid line %d (line expected: 'send' 'expect')", < lineno); < < if (debug) < print("sending %s, expecting %s\n", _args[0], _args[1]); < < if ((nb = write(fd, _args[0], strlen(_args[0]))) < 0) < sysfatal("cannot write %ss: %r", _args[0]); < assert(nb == strlen(_args[0])); < < if (strlen(_args[1]) > 0) { < if ((nb = read(fd, response, sizeof response)) < 0) < sysfatal("cannot read response from: %r"); < < if (debug) < print("response %s\n", response); < < if (nb == 0) < sysfatal("eof on input?\n"); < < if (cistrstr(response, _args[1]) == nil) < sysfatal("expected %s, got %s\n", _args[1], response); < } < p = s; --- > // Try to deduce the server name from the chatfile name. > if (!*servername) { > char *p; > strecpy(servername, servername+PATH-1, chatfile); > if ((p=strstr(servername, ".chat"))) > *p = 0; 2574c2521 < free(buf); --- > chat(fd, fd, chatfile); 2576c2523 < } --- > }; 2632c2579 < fprint(2, "usage: ppp [-cCdfPSu] [-b baud] [-k keyspec] [-m mtu] [-p dev] [-s username] [-x netmntpt] [-t modemcmd] [local-addr [remote-addr]]\n"); --- > fprint(2, "usage: ppp [-cCdfPSu] [-b baud] [-k keyspec] [-m mtu] [-p dev] [-s servername] [-x netmntpt] [-t modemcmd] [local-addr [remote-addr]]\n"); 2706a2654,2656 > case 's': > snprint(servername, PATH, "%s", EARGF(usage())); > break; 2743a2694,2701 > // If we don't have a user specified server name, > // try to deduce one from the dial string. > if(!*servername) { > char *p = strchr(dev,'!'); > snprint(servername, PATH, "%s", p+1); > p = strchr(servername, '!'); > if (p) *p = 0; > } 2751a2710 > 2885a2845,2855 > UserPasswd * > getuserpass() > { > if (servername[0]==0) > return auth_getuserpasswd(auth_getkey, > "proto=pass service=ppp %s", keyspec); > else > return auth_getuserpasswd(auth_getkey, > "proto=pass service=ppp server=%s %s", servername, keyspec); > } > 2893,2895c2863,2864 < < up = auth_getuserpasswd(auth_getkey,"proto=pass service=ppp %s", keyspec); < if(up != nil){ --- > > if((up = getuserpass()) != nil){ 2899a2869 > Only in .: telco.chat Only in .: try ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <11219.1058744919.6@bio.cse.psu.edu> # send expect PAUSE '' CRNL ':' # USER '' CRNL : # PASSWD '' CRNL : # ppp '' CRNL ~ ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0-- --upas-wyhgrvwyhuscqwqwxdpapvphpx-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 21 16:49:49 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; 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charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:48:42 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Actually, I've been trying to get rid of the cat stuff in favor of the > dial/expect, dial/at stuff. Since this can be embedded in a shell script > with a control structure, I find it a lot more powerful than our chat > scripts. I'ld rather see the effort go there than turning the chat > scripts into another rc. Rc seems to be a perfectly adequate scripting engine. Here's the rough and ready script I used for compuserve. The command 'cread [-t S] C' copies from stdin to stdout until character C is encountered or S seconds elapse. It might be usefully generalised by making C a regular expression, but the simple form was enough for my scripts. 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Gwyn" Message-ID: <4b2dndBoSs7qV4WiXTWJjQ@comcast.com> Organization: University of Bath Computing Services, UK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200307182034.h6IKYW725496@augusta.math.psu.edu>, <019401c34d71$0de28ca0$b9844051@insultant.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:28:20 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) boyd, rounin wrote: > if you need a pattern, go knit something. > if you need code, just code it. I don't think it has much to do with XML, but "design patterns" are a genuine advancement in the field of software engineering, applicable only with support from object-oriented languages, in the case of C++ using templates to implement the patterns. The idea, which is a recurring theme in software engineering, is to leverage the programmer's efforts by enabling more applications for the same amount of work. Just as OO technology used properly avoids having to enter similar code details for multiple objects with similar properties, so design patterns used properly avoids having to create similar code scaffolding (higher-level control logic) to implement similar functionality for different unrelated object classes. If you haven't read the book by Gamma et al. you should do so. Of course, you don't need industrial-strength tools if you're just tinkering, but still you should appreciate their value. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 21 17:44:58 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 21 17:44:58 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 6642 invoked by uid 1020); 21 Jul 2003 17:44:58 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 6638 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 17:44:57 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 17:44:57 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3713619B75; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 04:44:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7B07B19B66; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 04:44:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id F00C519AFD; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 04:43:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6903D19A19 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 04:43:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19eW2Y-00052v-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 09:29:02 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Anthony Mandic Message-ID: <3F1A15C7.8CE15686@hotmail.com> Organization: Mandic Consulting Pty. Ltd. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: , <01cd01c34d73$23b5ca40$b9844051@insultant.net> Subject: Re: diacritics (was: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:28:51 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) "boyd, rounin" wrote: > > > Phew, and I thought you guys were talking about dianetics. > > Now theres some *real* characters for ya! > > ah, scientologist baiting? That sounds like the corner of Pitt and Park. I recall many years ago ol' Ironbar related that anecdote when we retired to Basser for some special blend after dinner. I don't recall him saying who it was. Was it you? I remember Noel was there that night so I asked him about it last night at dinner. He said he didn't recall but he thought it sounded like something Grundy would do. -am © 2003 From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 21 17:45:16 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 21 17:45:16 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 6649 invoked by uid 1020); 21 Jul 2003 17:45:15 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 6645 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 17:45:15 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 17:45:15 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1F1E619B66; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 04:45:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3C49E19B66; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 04:45:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DB4D319A9A; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 04:43:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 53DEF19A19 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 04:43:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19eW2Y-00052p-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 09:29:02 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Anthony Mandic Message-ID: <3F1A1477.8C2F5A0B@hotmail.com> Organization: Mandic Consulting Pty. Ltd. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: <200307190345.h6J3je727417@augusta.math.psu.edu>, <02cd01c34da8$a68849e0$b9844051@insultant.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:28:40 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) "boyd, rounin" wrote: > don't get me started on LaTeX ... Just won't wear it, eh? -am =A9 2003 From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 21 17:45:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 21 17:45:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 6657 invoked by uid 1020); 21 Jul 2003 17:45:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 6653 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 17:45:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 17:45:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5174D19B80; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 04:45:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CB7E619B72; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 04:45:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E04F219AFF; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 04:43:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5348619A19 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 04:43:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19eW2X-00052X-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 09:29:01 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Anthony Mandic Message-ID: <3F18B520.F9910578@hotmail.com> Organization: Mandic Consulting Pty. Ltd. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: <829028fc324d5e94684699b99d6b8a94@plan9.bell-labs.com>, Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:27:27 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) ron minnich wrote: > so much more readable than lisp. More like today's Cobol. -am =A9 2003 From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 21 17:52:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 21 17:52:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 6813 invoked by uid 1020); 21 Jul 2003 17:52:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 6809 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 17:52:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 17:52:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3E17D19B78; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 04:52:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D4E0D19B00; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 04:52:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 801A519B3D; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 04:51:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-06.noos.net [212.198.2.75]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AF54E19A9A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 04:51:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14329172 invoked by uid 0); 21 Jul 2003 08:51:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.75 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 21 Jul 2003 08:51:06 -0000 Message-ID: <00c201c34f65$34f887e0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <4b2dndBoSs7qV4WiXTWJjQ@comcast.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:50:59 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I don't think it has much to do with XML, but "design patterns" > are a genuine advancement in the field of software engineering, > applicable only with support from object-oriented languages, > in the case of C++ using templates to implement the patterns. well i appreciate its goals, but it does seem to have run off the rails. i see this slavish application of this lunatic philosophy and well, i can't say i like it. programming is an art, it's a long way from being a science. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 21 17:56:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 21 17:56:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 6950 invoked by uid 1020); 21 Jul 2003 17:56:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 6946 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 17:56:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 17:56:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5284C19A9A; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 04:56:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0FB6519B5F; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 04:56:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 71A3919B5F; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 04:55:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-07.noos.net [212.198.2.76]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E5C5319A9A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 04:55:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27244852 invoked by uid 0); 21 Jul 2003 08:55:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.76 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 21 Jul 2003 08:55:53 -0000 Message-ID: <00c801c34f65$e0388ec0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <3F1A15C7.8CE15686@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: diacritics (was: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:55:46 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > That sounds like the corner of Pitt and Park. it was on pitt iirc. there was me, shand, brucee, darkie, butshit, gedarse and i think that was all, but i could be wrong. no, darkie was working in a pub which we dropped into. that was a long time ago. 20 years almost. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 21 17:58:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 21 17:58:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 6982 invoked by uid 1020); 21 Jul 2003 17:58:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 6978 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 17:58:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 17:58:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id ABAC419B00; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 04:58:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 128C519B00; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 04:58:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A4C7B19AC8; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 04:57:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-05.noos.net [212.198.2.74]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 22D3119AC4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 04:57:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 14229273 invoked by uid 0); 21 Jul 2003 08:57:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.74 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 21 Jul 2003 08:57:13 -0000 Message-ID: <00ce01c34f66$0fc17120$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <3F1A1477.8C2F5A0B@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:57:06 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) LaTeX? nah won't wear it or use it. what a god-awful idea. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 21 17:59:23 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 21 17:59:23 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 6992 invoked by uid 1020); 21 Jul 2003 17:59:22 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 6988 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 17:59:21 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 17:59:21 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E18D919B89; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 04:59:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0CAB819B71; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 04:59:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E3F2319B81; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 04:58:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-09.noos.net [212.198.2.80]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5D2FB19B05 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 04:58:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 89847892 invoked by uid 0); 21 Jul 2003 08:58:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.80 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 21 Jul 2003 08:58:16 -0000 Message-ID: <00d801c34f66$352ce8e0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: [9fans] dhog Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:58:09 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) i just found out. did i miss a message? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 21 18:26:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 21 18:26:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 7481 invoked by uid 1020); 21 Jul 2003 18:26:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 7477 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 18:26:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 18:26:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1407919B76; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 05:26:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C436619B61; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 05:26:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 73E0419B61; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 05:25:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 70DA419B05 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 05:25:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0fb253313b6ac58a6b9b6345d7816c25@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] /libnamespace Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 18:25:42 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) There is no entry of /net.alt in /lib/namespace. I have trouble to make dispatch listen process for 'none' user, probably because of it. Am I doing stupid? Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 21 20:14:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 21 20:14:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 9313 invoked by uid 1020); 21 Jul 2003 20:14:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 9309 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 20:14:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 20:14:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0459119B6B; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 07:14:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6FEE719B1C; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 07:14:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9D05719B1C; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 07:13:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 15EC719B05 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 07:13:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19eYUW-00074g-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:06:04 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Ram'on Garc'ia Fern'andez Message-ID: Organization: U.C.M Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] Installation fails with NVIDIA card: aux/vga does not find the card. Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:05:37 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I downloaded a recent Plan9 distribution. I attempted to reinstall completely my Plan9 system. I found that the installation failed. aux/vga complained that it could not find my card in /lib/vgadb . The command pci lists my card with the correct Vendor ID for NVidia cards 0x10DE . So this must be a bug in a recent aux/vga. My card is a Riva TN2. I have already Plan9 installed with it, and it works perfectly with Rio. Ramon From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 21 20:29:42 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 21 20:29:42 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 9584 invoked by uid 1020); 21 Jul 2003 20:29:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 9580 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 20:29:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 20:29:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6A8EB19B71; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 07:29:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C705E19AEA; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 07:29:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0AF7419B05; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 07:28:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cs.helsinki.fi (courier.cs.helsinki.fi [128.214.9.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 830CA19AC4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 07:28:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lokkiluoto.cs.helsinki.fi (lokkiluoto.cs.helsinki.fi [::ffff:128.214.48.187]) (IDENT: root, AUTH: PLAIN cs-relay, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,168bits,DES-CBC3-SHA) by mail.cs.helsinki.fi with esmtp; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 14:28:11 +0300 Received: from lokkiluoto (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lokkiluoto.cs.helsinki.fi (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6LBS3mH021359 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 14:28:10 +0300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Aki M Nyrhinen To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] ncpfs annyone? User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <412540618d3f1ecb73b5e3ceaae7b558@yourdomain.dom> In-Reply-To: <412540618d3f1ecb73b5e3ceaae7b558@yourdomain.dom> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200307211428.03439.anyrhine@cs.helsinki.fi> Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: anyrhine@cs.helsinki.fi List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 14:28:03 +0300 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Friday 18 July 2003 17:39, steve.simon@snellwilcox.com wrote: > Anyone interested in trying/testing (:-) the Netware > client I have written? It is fairly complete and appears stable. > It talks native NCP over IP only - no IPX, it should be compatible with > all servers from NW 3.11 an later, it speaks Bindery not NDS so you mus= t > log into each server individually. No printer support (yet). > Email me if interested. What about SMB? I don't know much about NCP, but have the impression that it is by large equivalent to SMB. I need to use SMB shares (served by samba) from Plan9 (don't ask), and I'm currently using u9fs and linux to do this. I'm very interested in testing if it supports SMB. If it doesn't support SMB but you feel that building smbfs based on your ncpfs wouldn't be too much work, I'm still interested. -Aki From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 21 20:46:38 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 21 20:46:38 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 9964 invoked by uid 1020); 21 Jul 2003 20:46:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 9960 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 20:46:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 20:46:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E06AB19B42; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 07:46:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5791619B05; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 07:46:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 87EAA19AEA; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 07:45:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz (clusterb.asuch.cas.cz [147.231.136.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EE5B619A3E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 07:45:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from picture ([147.231.139.42]) by XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:45:03 +0200 Message-ID: <001e01c34f7d$8602e9b0$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> From: "pac" To: "9fans" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jul 2003 11:45:03.0331 (UTC) FILETIME=[85F30B30:01C34F7D] Subject: [9fans] text utility Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:45:03 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi, friends, I've put a small text utility "tac" (meaning "reverse cat", i.e., write out lines with reverted order of chars) onto the neXt Archive ftp://ftp.gli.cas.cz/gli/cejchan/neXt/text/ It may look like toy but I use it when genes are transcribed from the complementary DNA string. If somebody would like to teach it runes, (s)he is welcome! Enjoy, if you can! ++pac. --- Odchozí zpráva neobsahuje viry. Zkontrolováno antivirovým systémem AVG (http://www.grisoft.cz). Verze: 6.0.502 / Virová báze: 300 - datum vydání: 18.7.2003 From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 21 20:53:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 21 20:53:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10018 invoked by uid 1020); 21 Jul 2003 20:53:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10014 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 20:53:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 20:53:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CCCF319B72; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 07:53:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3AE4419B05; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 07:53:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 741E819B05; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 07:52:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-03.noos.net [212.198.2.72]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EAD3E19AC4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 07:52:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32830300 invoked by uid 0); 21 Jul 2003 11:52:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.72 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 21 Jul 2003 11:52:16 -0000 Message-ID: <018401c34f7e$83d12020$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <001e01c34f7d$8602e9b0$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> Subject: Re: [9fans] text utility MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:52:09 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) err, what happened to rev(1)? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 21 20:56:27 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 21 20:56:27 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10047 invoked by uid 1020); 21 Jul 2003 20:56:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10043 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 20:56:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 20:56:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4882B19B7C; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 07:56:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E62A719B3F; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 07:56:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 196A319B4D; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 07:55:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.pipni.cz (mail.pipni.cz [195.39.35.29]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B74C819AEA for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 07:55:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (helo=plan9.cz) id 19eZGf-000IPL-Jj for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:55:49 +0200 From: "sasa" To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-Id: <20030721115221.M67747@plan9.cz> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.10 20030617 X-OriginatingIP: 147.231.137.21 (sasa@plan9.cz) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Subject: [9fans] czech web site about plan9 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:55:49 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) hi plan9-ers! we started web site about plan9 in czech language. there are some translated documents and czech infos about plan9. you can also find there instalation manual with screenshots. *********************** * http://www.plan9.cz * *********************** sasa@plan9.cz & pac@plan9.cz From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 21 21:06:40 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 21 21:06:40 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10161 invoked by uid 1020); 21 Jul 2003 21:06:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10157 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 21:06:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 21:06:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 94CB319B85; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:06:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 499DC19B3F; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:06:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id AF0BF19B5A; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:05:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from larch (unknown [195.173.15.12]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F02B019AFD for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:05:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: steve.simon@snellwilcox.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] ncpfs annyone? In-Reply-To: <2994160330@snellwilcox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-itoruepuvimdiwcjurgfyujqfp" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:05:18 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-itoruepuvimdiwcjurgfyujqfp Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, NCP is Novells proprietory protocol for accessing its servers, it covers file access, printing, admin etc. SMB is Microsoft's equivilent which I don't know much about; however the Plan9 to-do list on the wiki has comments about possible sources of an SMB/CIFS clients and a server. -Steve PS. part of the confusion may be due to the Netware "shell" (TSR) used under MSDOS provides a NetBios client as well as a Novell one. --upas-itoruepuvimdiwcjurgfyujqfp Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:28:03 +0100 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu bcc: "Steve Simon" From: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Sender: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Importance: normal Priority: normal Subject: Re: [9fans] ncpfs annyone? Message-Id: <2994160330@snellwilcox.com> X-MIME-Engine: v0.90 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Id: <2994160330-1@snellwilcox.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Friday 18 July 2003 17:39, steve.simon@snellwilcox.com wrote: > Anyone interested in trying/testing (:-) the Netware > client I have written? It is fairly complete and appears stable. > It talks native NCP over IP only - no IPX, it should be compatible with > all servers from NW 3.11 an later, it speaks Bindery not NDS so you must > log into each server individually. No printer support (yet). > Email me if interested. What about SMB? I don't know much about NCP, but have the impression that it is by large equivalent to SMB. I need to use SMB shares (served by samba) from Plan9 (don't ask), and I'm currently using u9fs and linux to do this. I'm very interested in testing if it supports SMB. If it doesn't support SMB but you feel that building smbfs based on your ncpfs wouldn't be too much work, I'm still interested. -Aki --upas-itoruepuvimdiwcjurgfyujqfp-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 21 21:25:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 21 21:25:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10535 invoked by uid 1020); 21 Jul 2003 21:25:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10531 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 21:25:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 21:25:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3046B19B58; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:25:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9B0E219AC5; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:25:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0703C19B08; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:24:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cs.helsinki.fi (courier.cs.helsinki.fi [128.214.9.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7E69819AC5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:24:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lokkiluoto.cs.helsinki.fi (lokkiluoto.cs.helsinki.fi [::ffff:128.214.48.187]) (IDENT: root, AUTH: PLAIN cs-relay, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,168bits,DES-CBC3-SHA) by mail.cs.helsinki.fi with esmtp; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 15:24:35 +0300 Received: from lokkiluoto (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lokkiluoto.cs.helsinki.fi (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6LCOZmH021518; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 15:24:35 +0300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Aki M Nyrhinen To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] ncpfs annyone? User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <412540618d3f1ecb73b5e3ceaae7b558@yourdomain.dom> <200307211428.03439.anyrhine@cs.helsinki.fi> In-Reply-To: <200307211428.03439.anyrhine@cs.helsinki.fi> Cc: steve.simon@snellwilcox.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200307211524.35030.anyrhine@cs.helsinki.fi> Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: anyrhine@cs.helsinki.fi List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 15:24:35 +0300 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Monday 21 July 2003 14:28, Aki M Nyrhinen wrote: > I don't know much about NCP, but have the impression that it is by larg= e=20 > equivalent to SMB. Now that I bothered to look around a bit, I see that this is nonsense. Is= =20 someone working on smbfs for P9? =09-Aki From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 21 21:33:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 21 21:33:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10731 invoked by uid 1020); 21 Jul 2003 21:33:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10726 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 21:33:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 21:33:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6F68519B6E; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:33:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0664419B08; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:33:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9253F19B53; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:32:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 39B1619AC5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:32:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <53d568640f49bf96b676b4f5255280a1@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] /libnamespace In-Reply-To: <0fb253313b6ac58a6b9b6345d7816c25@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-khvojsgctdysbjpaogkjuneefh" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:32:46 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-khvojsgctdysbjpaogkjuneefh Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can't tell, not enough information. Are you indeed using multiple IP stacks? How are you starting things up? --upas-khvojsgctdysbjpaogkjuneefh Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Mon Jul 21 05:26:27 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Mon Jul 21 05:26:25 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D208719B7C; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 05:26:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AFA8119B05; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 05:26:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 73E0419B61; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 05:25:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 70DA419B05 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 05:25:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0fb253313b6ac58a6b9b6345d7816c25@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] /libnamespace Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 18:25:42 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) There is no entry of /net.alt in /lib/namespace. I have trouble to make dispatch listen process for 'none' user, probably because of it. Am I doing stupid? Kenji --upas-khvojsgctdysbjpaogkjuneefh-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 21 21:35:23 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 21 21:35:23 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10756 invoked by uid 1020); 21 Jul 2003 21:35:23 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10752 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 21:35:23 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 21:35:23 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7BB7019B5F; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:35:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 025B8199F9; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:35:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6521A199F9; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:34:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1A7BA199B6 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:34:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] ppp patches In-Reply-To: <7ce34037c3cbd6915eeb039abcdbd617@plan9.bell-labs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:34:07 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I updated sources with /sys/src/cmd/dial/* and /sys/man/1/expect. It's a bunch of stuff I've been using for a year to do dialing. I thought it was on sources. Sorry. For examples, look at /rc/bin/ipconf/* From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 21 22:01:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 21 22:01:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11289 invoked by uid 1020); 21 Jul 2003 22:01:21 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11285 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 22:01:21 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 22:01:21 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C074519B25; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 09:01:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0283E19AB7; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 09:01:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2B38419AB7; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 09:00:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from holo.morphisms.net (holo.morphisms.net [66.93.84.55]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DD8EC19A93 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 09:00:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mero.morphisms.net (mero.morphisms.net [66.93.84.246]) by holo.morphisms.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B23724FAC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 09:00:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mero.morphisms.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1F3CA288; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 09:00:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 09:00:12 -0400 From: "William K. Josephson" To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] dhog Message-ID: <20030721130012.GA47816@mero.morphisms.net> References: <00d801c34f66$352ce8e0$b9844051@insultant.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00d801c34f66$352ce8e0$b9844051@insultant.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-No-archive: yes Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 10:58:09AM +0200, boyd, rounin wrote: > i just found out. did i miss a message? I don't think anything has been said publicly here. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 21 23:14:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 21 23:14:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13028 invoked by uid 1020); 21 Jul 2003 23:14:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13024 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 23:14:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 23:14:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B8B1819B18; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:14:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 96AA419A6E; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:14:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1E09F19A07; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:13:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.foobarbaz.net (unknown [64.71.129.86]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C639A199BF for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:13:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.foobarbaz.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2800566B2A; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 07:13:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Nielsen To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] fossil and auth Message-ID: <20030721141342.GL63873@cassie.foobarbaz.net> References: <20030720050244.GG63873@cassie.foobarbaz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: cnielsen@pobox.com List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 07:13:42 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Here is the output. From the logs on the auth server, it looks like authentication is successful and a ticket is granted, but I must admit I am not certain. 12: start proto=p9any role=client yields phase CNeedProtos: ok 12: read 4093 in phase CNeedProtos yields phase CNeedProtos: phase: protocol phase error: read in state CNeedProtos 12: write 0 in phase CNeedProtos yields phase CNeedProtos: toosmall 2048 12: no key matches proto=p9sk1 dom=foobarbaz.net role=speakfor user? !password? 12: no key matches proto=p9sk1 dom=foobarbaz.net role=client user? !password? 12: write 20 in phase CNeedProtos yields phase CNeedProtos: needkey !password? dom=foobarbaz.net proto=p9sk1 user? 0: no key matches 0: failure no key matches 12: start proto=p9sk1 role=client dom=foobarbaz.net yields phase CHaveChal: ok 12: write 20 in phase CNeedProtos yields phase CHaveProto: ok 12: read 20 in phase CHaveProto yields phase CRelay: ok 12: read 8 in phase CHaveChal yields phase CNeedTreq: ok 12: read 8 in phase CRelay yields phase CRelay: ok 12: read 4093 in phase CNeedTreq yields phase CNeedTreq: phase: protocol phase error: read in state CNeedTreq 12: read 4093 in phase CRelay yields phase CRelay: phase: protocol phase error: read in state CNeedTreq 12: write 0 in phase CNeedTreq yields phase CNeedTreq: toosmall 141 12: write 0 in phase CRelay yields phase CRelay: toosmall 141 12: write 141 in phase CNeedTreq yields phase CHaveTicket: ok 12: write 141 in phase CRelay yields phase CRelay: ok 12: read 85 in phase CHaveTicket yields phase CNeedAuth: ok 12: read 85 in phase CRelay yields phase CRelay: ok Here is the corresponding entry from the auth server: enki Jul 21 10:05:12 tr-ok madhatter@madhatter(192.168.0.10) -> madhatter@bootes Thanks for the help. On Sun, Jul 20, 2003 at 09:28:35AM -0400, David Presotto wrote: > what authentication errors are you getting on the calling system? In > a window, 'echo -n debug > /mnt/factotum/ctl' then 'cat /dev/kprint'. > In another window, try the attach. > > Most likely, the caller doesn't know which auth server to use for > the auth domain of the file server and is just hanging up. > From: Christopher Nielsen > To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu > Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 22:02:44 -0700 > Subject: [9fans] fossil and auth > > I have setup a standalone fossil/venti fileserver. I also > have a standalone auth server. > > When I try to attach to main on the fileserver, I am getting > authentication failures. There are no errors in the logs on > the auth server. The output on fscons is: > > attach main as madhatter: phase error protocol phase error: read in state SNeedTicket > > Any clues as to what I might have done wrong? > > -- > Christopher Nielsen > "They who can give up essential liberty for temporary > safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin -- Christopher Nielsen "They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 21 23:52:45 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 21 23:52:45 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13962 invoked by uid 1020); 21 Jul 2003 23:52:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13958 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 23:52:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 23:52:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id F153019B6D; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:52:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5751819B43; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:52:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 51E6419B33; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:51:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from galapagos.cse.psu.edu (galapagos.cse.psu.edu [130.203.12.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id A511619A91 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:51:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15109 invoked by uid 991); 21 Jul 2003 14:51:35 -0000 Message-ID: <20030721145135.15108.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] ppp patches In-reply-to: References: Comments: In-reply-to David Presotto message dated "Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:34:07 -0400." From: Scott Schwartz Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:51:35 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Thanks Dave. Looking that stuff over, I see that it doesn't use use factotum. But ip/ppp does! Why not let factotum do all the prompting for passwords? Also, the patches I sent use the server= field to distinguish multiple places you might want to connect to. I think that's worth having. It also means that you don't have to prompt for the dial string, because you can get it from factotum along with the other credentials. I can't help noticing that the ipconf scripts don't use telco. I really like telco, I think it's a really beautiful demonstration of how Plan 9 does something much more cleanly than Unix. It especially shines when your ISP has several phone numbers, because you can add telco entries to ndb and telco will try each phone number until it gets a connection (just like telnet does with IP numbers.) But maybe it is all less useful now that modems are less popular, timeshareing is less popular, and perhaps people just don't want to pay for an extra process handling the data. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 00:09:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 00:09:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 14545 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 00:09:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 14541 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 00:09:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 00:09:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 47B3619AB8; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:09:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0ECD419AF7; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:09:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C1C0E19B05; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:08:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2D77C19AB8 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:08:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <77820afbb22b2225e70aa127e54c4a9a@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] ppp patches In-Reply-To: <20030721145135.15108.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:08:27 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I'ld love to let factotum do the prompting. If you use chap or mschap, it already does. I'll stick your prompting changes into a dial/whatever routine and the dial stuff can do it too. We can't use them at workm, because we use RSA Securid tokens for passwords As for the server= field, we can easily pass that in as a parameter that will get passed to factotum. I'm not so sure about dialstrings. They really aren't part of the security info and, at least in the case of the 3 ISP's I deal with, are relative to where I'm dialing from. I'ld rather not stick that all into my secstore. I agree about telco, that's why I wrote it. However, I found that people here just don't use it, probably for the reason you mentioned. Thanks, does this sound reasonable to you? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 00:10:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 00:10:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 14559 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 00:10:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 14555 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 00:10:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 00:10:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B1E6D19B33; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:10:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9A93C19B53; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:10:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B385619B53; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:09:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9E1EC19B5A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:09:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20043 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:09:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h6LF9K710122 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:09:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307211509.h6LF9K710122@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:28:20 GMT." <4b2dndBoSs7qV4WiXTWJjQ@comcast.com> From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:09:19 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I don't think it has much to do with XML, but "design patterns" > are a genuine advancement in the field of software engineering, > applicable only with support from object-oriented languages, Come on. ``Genuine advancement in the field of software engineering'' is a bit strong. As Gamma et al themselves point out in the introduction, nothing in the book is new. The only advancement they made was to package them up in one place and give names everyone could use as the basis for a common vocabulary. > in the case of C++ using templates to implement the patterns. Funny, most of the design patterns in Gamma et al don't use templates. Only four or five out of 23 do. Most just use simple inheritence hierarchies. - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 00:10:48 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 00:10:48 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 14567 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 00:10:48 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 14563 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 00:10:47 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 00:10:47 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9EED319B8B; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:10:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DC76919B7F; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:10:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9C85619B53; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:09:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BDAE619AF7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:09:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: David Presotto To: ramon-news.no.spam@juguete.quim.ucm.es, 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Installation fails with NVIDIA card: aux/vga does not find the card. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-nshxhrfhasyzfowjhqqyvaofyi" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:09:39 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-nshxhrfhasyzfowjhqqyvaofyi Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I stuck a link in the download pages that lets you download an experimental diskette image instead of the normal one. Try that and see if it recognizes your vga. --upas-nshxhrfhasyzfowjhqqyvaofyi Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Mon Jul 21 07:14:29 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Mon Jul 21 07:14:26 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9F48619B05; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 07:14:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2F44519B05; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 07:14:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9D05719B1C; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 07:13:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 15EC719B05 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 07:13:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19eYUW-00074g-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:06:04 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Ram'on Garc'ia Fern'andez Message-ID: Organization: U.C.M Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] Installation fails with NVIDIA card: aux/vga does not find the card. Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:05:37 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I downloaded a recent Plan9 distribution. I attempted to reinstall completely my Plan9 system. I found that the installation failed. aux/vga complained that it could not find my card in /lib/vgadb . The command pci lists my card with the correct Vendor ID for NVidia cards 0x10DE . So this must be a bug in a recent aux/vga. My card is a Riva TN2. I have already Plan9 installed with it, and it works perfectly with Rio. Ramon --upas-nshxhrfhasyzfowjhqqyvaofyi-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 00:40:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 00:40:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15159 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 00:40:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15155 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 00:40:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 00:40:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7885819B5E; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:40:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 09D6619B05; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:40:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3A85C19AFD; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:39:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MIMESWEEPER.pigroup.co.uk (unknown [194.203.134.3]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 107D719A9D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:39:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from eagle.pigroup.co.uk (unverified) by MIMESWEEPER.pigroup.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.1) with ESMTP id for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:40:13 +0100 Received: by EAGLE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:40:04 +0100 Message-ID: From: Stephen Parker To: "'9fans@cse.psu.edu'" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: RE: [9fans] don't shoot me MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01C34F9E.5AADC2F0" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:40:04 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C34F9E.5AADC2F0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C34F9E.5AADC2F0" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34F9E.5AADC2F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" "Modern C++ Design" (Andrei Alexandrescu) takes this extra step and attempts to implement patterns using templates. If you thought C++ had already gone too far then this book should confirm this. stephen ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34F9E.5AADC2F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: [9fans] don't shoot me

"Modern C++ Design" (Andrei Alexandrescu) takes this extra step and attempts to
implement patterns using templates.  If you thought C++ had already gone too far
then this book should confirm this.

stephen


  ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34F9E.5AADC2F0-- ------_=_NextPart_000_01C34F9E.5AADC2F0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Description: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me Message-ID: <200307211509.h6LF9K710122@augusta.math.psu.edu> From: Dan Cross Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:09:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_003_01C34F9E.5AADC2F0" ------_=_NextPart_003_01C34F9E.5AADC2F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > I don't think it has much to do with XML, but "design patterns" > are a genuine advancement in the field of software engineering, > applicable only with support from object-oriented languages, Come on. ``Genuine advancement in the field of software engineering'' is a bit strong. As Gamma et al themselves point out in the introduction, nothing in the book is new. The only advancement they made was to package them up in one place and give names everyone could use as the basis for a common vocabulary. > in the case of C++ using templates to implement the patterns. Funny, most of the design patterns in Gamma et al don't use templates. Only four or five out of 23 do. Most just use simple inheritence hierarchies. - Dan C. ------_=_NextPart_003_01C34F9E.5AADC2F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Re: [9fans] don't shoot me

> I don't think it has much to do with XML, but "design patterns"
> are a genuine advancement in the field of software engineering,
> applicable only with support from object-oriented languages,

Come on.  ``Genuine advancement in the field of software engineering''
is a bit strong.  As Gamma et al themselves point out in the
introduction, nothing in the book is new.  The only advancement they
made was to package them up in one place and give names everyone could
use as the basis for a common vocabulary.

> in the case of C++ using templates to implement the patterns.

Funny, most of the design patterns in Gamma et al don't use templates.
Only four or five out of 23 do.  Most just use simple inheritence
hierarchies.

        - Dan C.

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From: "Skip Tavakkolian" In-Reply-To: <200307211428.03439.anyrhine@cs.helsinki.fi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:49:49 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > What about SMB? look for 'aquarela' in this list's archives. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 01:05:56 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 01:05:56 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 16128 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 01:05:55 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 16124 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 01:05:55 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 01:05:55 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1FF7219B7A; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:05:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1A7BB19AEA; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:05:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5B21319AFD; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:04:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgristroph-austin.ath.cx (cs24362-19.austin.rr.com [24.243.62.19]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AA4DF19A7C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:04:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgr by rgristroph-austin.ath.cx with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19edBI-0005Pn-00; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:06:32 -0500 From: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org (Rob Ristroph) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Installation fails with NVIDIA card: aux/vga does not find the card. References: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87ptk3g8zc.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> Lines: 42 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: 21 Jul 2003 11:06:31 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_GNUS_UA version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >>>>> "Ram'on" == Ram'on Garc'ia Fern'andez writes: Ramon> Ramon> I downloaded a recent Plan9 distribution. I attempted to Ramon> reinstall completely my Plan9 system. I found that the Ramon> installation failed. Ramon> Ramon> aux/vga complained that it could not find my card in /lib/vgadb . Ramon> The command pci lists my card with the correct Vendor ID for NVidia Ramon> cards 0x10DE . Ramon> Ramon> So this must be a bug in a recent aux/vga. Ramon> Ramon> My card is a Riva TN2. I have already Plan9 installed with it, Ramon> and it works perfectly with Rio. Ramon> Ramon> Ramon I also have a Riva TNT which stopped being recognized after I did a pull and recompiled my kernel sometime last month. But the install floppy always recognized it and brought it up into rio just fine; it was the stuff installed to the harddrive that failed. I downloaded the experimental floppy and tried it out just now -- I don't think it ever got to the part where it runs aux/vga: 1262958 => 744660|1113032+83740=1941432 entry: 80100020 cpu0: 401MHz AuthenticAMD AMD-K6_III (cpuid: AX 0x0591 DX 0x8021BF) ELCR: 0A00 #l0: rtl8139: 100Mbps port 0xE800 irq 9: 00904703FA06 19313 free pages, 77252K bytes, 309252K swap boot: can't connect to file server: '/bzroot' file does not exist panic: boot process died: unknown cpu0: exiting Where there changes made to vga in May or early June ? I think something in Plan 9 changed in that period that made the nvidia not work from a clean install. --Rob From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 01:35:44 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 01:35:44 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 16768 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 01:35:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 16764 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 01:35:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 01:35:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 774CC19B53; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:35:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5408819B2A; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:35:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id F285519B26; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:34:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 200C119A93 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:34:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6LGXweH009158 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:33:58 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6LGXwoi009154 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:33:58 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Installation fails with NVIDIA card: aux/vga does not find the card. In-Reply-To: <87ptk3g8zc.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:33:58 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On 21 Jul 2003, Rob Ristroph wrote: > Where there changes made to vga in May or early June ? I think > something in Plan 9 changed in that period that made the nvidia not > work from a clean install. there was a merge between nvidia drivers adding support for GeForce4s, I believe. maybe that's what caused it. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 02:10:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 02:10:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 17362 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 02:10:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 17358 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 02:10:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 02:10:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3ED9B19B7B; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:10:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 494F719AFA; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:10:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B766219B31; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:09:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cerberus.uk.clara.net (cerberus.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.103]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 037EB19AFA for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:09:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from martin.althoff.claranet.co.uk ([213.253.17.40] helo=127.0.0.1) by cerberus.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #3) id 19eeAS-0006BB-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 18:09:44 +0100 From: Martin Althoff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <72406015.20030721180944@tiscali.co.uk> To: andrey mirtchovski <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re[2]: [9fans] Installation fails with NVIDIA card: aux/vga does not find the card. In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: "martin.althoff" List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 18:09:44 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I can join the TNT2 woes... Downloaded a "current" CD image a few days back and had no luck with it. Also think it never got to actually running aux/vga. Stuck with current offical distro and that fine. Monday, July 21, 2003, 5:33:58 PM, you wrote: > On 21 Jul 2003, Rob Ristroph wrote: >> Where there changes made to vga in May or early June ? I think >> something in Plan 9 changed in that period that made the nvidia not >> work from a clean install. > there was a merge between nvidia drivers adding support for GeForce4s, I > believe. maybe that's what caused it. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 02:37:35 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 02:37:35 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 17801 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 02:37:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 17797 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 02:37:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 02:37:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3616A19B2A; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:37:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 334D019B26; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:37:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6A67619B2A; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:36:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from umbriel.useastgw.xerox.com (umbriel.xerox.com [13.13.138.18]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C4F6119B08 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:36:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from virga.ppdev.mc.xerox.com (virga176.ppdev.mc.xerox.com [13.251.176.25]) by umbriel.useastgw.xerox.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6LHarlw015095 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:36:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kerry.ppdev.mc.xerox.com (kerry [13.251.176.37]) by virga.ppdev.mc.xerox.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h6LHarP25219; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:36:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kerry (kerry [13.251.176.37]) by kerry.ppdev.mc.xerox.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with SMTP id h6LHRba17723; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:27:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307211727.h6LHRba17723@kerry.ppdev.mc.xerox.com> From: Marc Rocas To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Cc: rocas@ppdev.mc.xerox.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: MmnZca3cCtVkyQl5oAHQPQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.4.6_06 SunOS 5.8 sun4u sparc Subject: [9fans] Sam for Unix Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: Marc Rocas List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:27:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Scott Schwartz announced availability of sam 4e ported to Unix using Russ' port of libutf and libfmt back on 7/5/2003. Dave Presotto replied that he would like to make it available from their web site (https://lists.cse.psu.edu/archives/9fans/2003-July/025820.html). I have not seen a follow up and simply wanted to make sure I did not miss something on the list. Also, if the software would be stored in a well known place, I apologize in that I do not know it. Thanks in advance for your time. --Marc Rocas rocas@ppdev.mc.xerox.com From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 02:43:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 02:43:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 17912 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 02:43:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 17908 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 02:43:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 02:43:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 421DF19B60; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:43:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5BF6419B3C; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:43:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 12B7B19B26; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:42:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgristroph-austin.ath.cx (cs24362-19.austin.rr.com [24.243.62.19]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6938B19AFA for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:42:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgr by rgristroph-austin.ath.cx with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19eeiP-0005U2-00; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:44:49 -0500 From: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org (Rob Ristroph) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: Re[2]: [9fans] Installation fails with NVIDIA card: aux/vga does not find the card. References: <72406015.20030721180944@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <72406015.20030721180944@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <87el0jg4fn.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> Lines: 10 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: 21 Jul 2003 12:44:44 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_GNUS_UA version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >>>>> "Martin" == Martin Althoff writes: Martin> Martin> I can join the TNT2 woes... Martin> Downloaded a "current" CD image a few days back and had no Martin> luck with it. Also think it never got to actually running Martin> aux/vga. Stuck with current offical distro and that fine. What do you mean by "current official" Plan 9 ? --Rob From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 03:02:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 03:02:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 18182 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 03:02:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 18178 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 03:02:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 03:02:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D552919B81; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 14:02:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B34F119B26; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 14:02:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6C12619B31; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 14:01:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from galapagos.cse.psu.edu (galapagos.cse.psu.edu [130.203.12.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id C56DC19AFA for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 14:01:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19178 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2003 18:01:51 -0000 Received: from roke.cse.psu.edu (HELO bio.cse.psu.edu) (130.203.12.14) by galapagos.cse.psu.edu with SMTP; 21 Jul 2003 18:01:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 19922 invoked by uid 991); 21 Jul 2003 18:01:51 -0000 Message-ID: <20030721180151.19921.qmail@f.bio.cse.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Cc: rocas@ppdev.mc.xerox.com Subject: Re: [9fans] Sam for Unix In-reply-to: <200307211727.h6LHRba17723@kerry.ppdev.mc.xerox.com> References: <200307211727.h6LHRba17723@kerry.ppdev.mc.xerox.com> Comments: In-reply-to Marc Rocas message dated "Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:27:37 -0400." From: Scott Schwartz Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 14:01:51 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Sorry for not following up on that. Basically, Russ said he wanted to put it on his web site, but he was busy; and Dave suggested that I put it on mine in the meantime, but I've been busy; and so it's been waiting until the time is ripe. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 03:55:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 03:55:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 18858 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 03:55:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 18854 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 03:55:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 03:55:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id F115419B83; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 14:55:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B8FDF19B5A; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 14:55:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 26C4719B31; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 14:54:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-01.noos.net [212.198.2.70]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 51B8519AFA for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 14:54:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 44261031 invoked by uid 0); 21 Jul 2003 18:54:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.70 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 21 Jul 2003 18:54:35 -0000 Message-ID: <001401c34fb9$832219a0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <412540618d3f1ecb73b5e3ceaae7b558@yourdomain.dom> <200307211428.03439.anyrhine@cs.helsinki.fi> <200307211524.35030.anyrhine@cs.helsinki.fi> Subject: Re: [9fans] ncpfs annyone? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 20:54:28 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) netware and SMB are totally different. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 04:47:48 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 04:47:48 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 19784 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 04:47:37 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 19780 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 04:47:37 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 04:47:37 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D4DEA199E6; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 15:47:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F2F50199E1; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 15:47:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DE7CA19A7C; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 15:46:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.foobarbaz.net (unknown [64.71.129.86]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1201C19A2C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 15:46:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.foobarbaz.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3E79A66B2A; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:46:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Nielsen To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] fossil and auth Message-ID: <20030721194631.GP63873@cassie.foobarbaz.net> References: <20030720050244.GG63873@cassie.foobarbaz.net> <20030721141342.GL63873@cassie.foobarbaz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030721141342.GL63873@cassie.foobarbaz.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: cnielsen@pobox.com List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:46:32 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I am completely stumped on this one. I have no clue what's happening. I've checked everything I can think of and nothing is working. Here's snoopy output from the conversation between the client, the auth server and the fileserver. The fileserver is 192.168.0.129 and the auth server is 192.168.0.130. I have no idea if it will be of any use. Any suggestions woud be greatly appreciated. Thanks. 008949 ms ether(s=000c29fd4408 d=00c04f6ef3b5 pr=0800 ln=78) ip(s=192.168.0.10 d=192.168.0.129 id=0ce6 frag=0000 ttl=255 pr=6 ln=64) tcp(s=9047 d=564 seq=119742927 ack=3080132018 fl=AP win=65535 ck=eea2) ninep(Tauth tag 12 afid 320 uname madhatter aname ) 008969 ms ether(s=00c04f6ef3b5 d=000c29fd4408 pr=0800 ln=74) ip(s=192.168.0.129 d=192.168.0.10 id=1ccf frag=0000 ttl=255 pr=6 ln=60) tcp(s=564 d=9047 seq=3080132018 ack=119742951 fl=AP win=65535 ck=56e8) ninep(Rauth tag 12 qid (0000000000000140 0 A)) 008982 ms ether(s=000c29fd4408 d=00c04f6ef3b5 pr=0800 ln=60) ip(s=192.168.0.10 d=192.168.0.129 id=0ce7 frag=0000 ttl=255 pr=6 ln=40) tcp(s=9047 d=564 seq=119742951 ack=3080132038 fl=AP win=65535 ck=11fe) 017923 ms ether(s=000c29fd4408 d=00c04f6ef3b5 pr=0800 ln=77) ip(s=192.168.0.10 d=192.168.0.129 id=0ce8 frag=0000 ttl=255 pr=6 ln=63) tcp(s=9047 d=564 seq=119742951 ack=3080132038 fl=AP win=65535 ck=7d9a) ninep(Tread tag 12 fid 320 offset 0 count 2048) 020863 ms ether(s=00c04f6ef3b5 d=000c29fd4408 pr=0800 ln=85) ip(s=192.168.0.129 d=192.168.0.10 id=1cd0 frag=0000 ttl=255 pr=6 ln=71) tcp(s=564 d=9047 seq=3080132038 ack=119742974 fl=AP win=65535 ck=5e9c) ninep(Rread tag 12 count 20 '7039736b 3140666f 6f626172 62617a2e 6e657400') 020874 ms ether(s=000c29fd4408 d=00c04f6ef3b5 pr=0800 ln=97) ip(s=192.168.0.10 d=192.168.0.129 id=0ce9 frag=0000 ttl=255 pr=6 ln=83) tcp(s=9047 d=564 seq=119742974 ack=3080132069 fl=AP win=65535 ck=701d) ninep(Twrite tag 12 fid 320 offset 20 count 20 '7039736b 3120666f 6f626172 62617a2e 6e657400') 033202 ms ether(s=00c04f6ef3b5 d=000c29fd4408 pr=0800 ln=65) ip(s=192.168.0.129 d=192.168.0.10 id=1cd1 frag=0000 ttl=255 pr=6 ln=51) tcp(s=564 d=9047 seq=3080132069 ack=119743017 fl=AP win=65535 ck=8f71) ninep(Rwrite tag 12 count 20) 037461 ms ether(s=000c29fd4408 d=00c04f6ef3b5 pr=0800 ln=85) ip(s=192.168.0.10 d=192.168.0.129 id=0cea frag=0000 ttl=255 pr=6 ln=71) tcp(s=9047 d=564 seq=119743017 ack=3080132080 fl=AP win=65535 ck=3dcd) ninep(Twrite tag 12 fid 320 offset 40 count 8 'ff79ffff 0b0f7eff') 037475 ms ether(s=00c04f6ef3b5 d=000c29fd4408 pr=0800 ln=65) ip(s=192.168.0.129 d=192.168.0.10 id=1cd2 frag=0000 ttl=255 pr=6 ln=51) tcp(s=564 d=9047 seq=3080132080 ack=119743048 fl=AP win=65535 ck=8f53) ninep(Rwrite tag 12 count 8) 042946 ms ether(s=000c29fd4408 d=00c04f6ef3b5 pr=0800 ln=77) ip(s=192.168.0.10 d=192.168.0.129 id=0ceb frag=0000 ttl=255 pr=6 ln=63) tcp(s=9047 d=564 seq=119743048 ack=3080132091 fl=AP win=65535 ck=8447) ninep(Tread tag 12 fid 320 offset 48 count 141) 042970 ms ether(s=00c04f6ef3b5 d=000c29fd4408 pr=0800 ln=206) ip(s=192.168.0.129 d=192.168.0.10 id=1cd3 frag=0000 ttl=255 pr=6 ln=192) tcp(s=564 d=9047 seq=3080132091 ack=119743071 fl=AP win=65535 ck=76f3) ninep(Rread tag 12 count 141 '01626f6f 74657300 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00666f6f 62617262 617a2e6e 65740000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000') 042986 ms ether(s=000c29fd4408 d=00c04f6ef3b5 pr=0800 ln=60) ip(s=192.168.0.10 d=192.168.0.129 id=0cec frag=0000 ttl=255 pr=6 ln=40) tcp(s=9047 d=564 seq=119743071 ack=3080132243 fl=AP win=65535 ck=10b9) 050549 ms ether(s=000c29fd4408 d=00095b06f4d5 pr=0800 ln=62) ip(s=192.168.0.10 d=192.168.0.130 id=0ced frag=0000 ttl=255 pr=6 ln=48) tcp(s=9058 d=567 seq=1782916576 ack=0 fl=S win=65535 ck=4d83 opt4=(mss 1460) opt3=(wscale 0) opt=NOOP) 053705 ms ether(s=00095b06f4d5 d=000c29fd4408 pr=0800 ln=62) ip(s=192.168.0.130 d=192.168.0.10 id=315a frag=0000 ttl=255 pr=6 ln=48) tcp(s=567 d=9058 seq=2661334796 ack=1782916577 fl=AS win=65535 ck=efc4 opt4=(mss 1460) opt3=(wscale 0) opt=NOOP) 053721 ms ether(s=000c29fd4408 d=00095b06f4d5 pr=0800 ln=60) ip(s=192.168.0.10 d=192.168.0.130 id=0cee frag=0000 ttl=255 pr=6 ln=40) tcp(s=9058 d=567 seq=1782916577 ack=2661334797 fl=AP win=65535 ck=1a82) 053732 ms ether(s=000c29fd4408 d=00095b06f4d5 pr=0800 ln=195) ip(s=192.168.0.10 d=192.168.0.130 id=0cef frag=0000 ttl=255 pr=6 ln=181) tcp(s=9058 d=567 seq=1782916577 ack=2661334797 fl=AP win=65535 ck=a635) dump(01626f6f74657300000000000000000000000000000000000000000000666f6f) 053749 ms ether(s=00095b06f4d5 d=000c29fd4408 pr=0800 ln=60) ip(s=192.168.0.130 d=192.168.0.10 id=315b frag=0000 ttl=255 pr=6 ln=40) tcp(s=567 d=9058 seq=2661334797 ack=1782916718 fl=AP win=65394 ck=1a82) 053763 ms ether(s=00095b06f4d5 d=000c29fd4408 pr=0800 ln=199) ip(s=192.168.0.130 d=192.168.0.10 id=315c frag=0000 ttl=255 pr=6 ln=185) tcp(s=567 d=9058 seq=2661334797 ack=1782916718 fl=AP win=65535 ck=9677) dump(047477fe6187d06ad76b57152d73e1ac03c700b9bad30ece6765de40cbcc1d26) 053773 ms ether(s=000c29fd4408 d=00095b06f4d5 pr=0800 ln=60) ip(s=192.168.0.10 d=192.168.0.130 id=0cf0 frag=0000 ttl=255 pr=6 ln=40) tcp(s=9058 d=567 seq=1782916718 ack=2661334942 fl=AF win=65535 ck=196b) 054334 ms ether(s=00095b06f4d5 d=000c29fd4408 pr=0800 ln=60) ip(s=192.168.0.130 d=192.168.0.10 id=315d frag=0000 ttl=255 pr=6 ln=40) tcp(s=567 d=9058 seq=2661334942 ack=1782916719 fl=AP win=65535 ck=1963) 054347 ms ether(s=00095b06f4d5 d=000c29fd4408 pr=0800 ln=60) ip(s=192.168.0.130 d=192.168.0.10 id=315e frag=0000 ttl=255 pr=6 ln=40) tcp(s=567 d=9058 seq=2661334942 ack=1782916719 fl=AF win=65535 ck=196a) 054359 ms ether(s=000c29fd4408 d=00095b06f4d5 pr=0800 ln=60) ip(s=192.168.0.10 d=192.168.0.130 id=0cf1 frag=0000 ttl=255 pr=6 ln=40) tcp(s=9058 d=567 seq=1782916719 ack=2661334943 fl=AP win=65535 ck=1962) 054370 ms ether(s=000c29fd4408 d=00c04f6ef3b5 pr=0800 ln=162) ip(s=192.168.0.10 d=192.168.0.129 id=0cf2 frag=0000 ttl=255 pr=6 ln=148) tcp(s=9047 d=564 seq=119743071 ack=3080132243 fl=AP win=65535 ck=f564) ninep(Twrite tag 12 fid 320 offset 189 count 85 '70ffff1e 6bffffff 750b1504 74ffff5c ffff4dff ff1258ff 567074ff ffffff42 5d23ff33 ffff3dff ffff643f ff2306ff ff4bff3e 05ffff18 73ffff56 147e17ff') 054385 ms ether(s=00c04f6ef3b5 d=000c29fd4408 pr=0800 ln=82) ip(s=192.168.0.129 d=192.168.0.10 id=1cd4 frag=0000 ttl=255 pr=6 ln=68) tcp(s=564 d=9047 seq=3080132243 ack=119743179 fl=AP win=65535 ck=5416) ninep(Rerror tag 12 ename file does not exist) 054395 ms ether(s=000c29fd4408 d=00c04f6ef3b5 pr=0800 ln=82) ip(s=192.168.0.10 d=192.168.0.129 id=0cf3 frag=0000 ttl=255 pr=6 ln=68) tcp(s=9047 d=564 seq=119743179 ack=3080132271 fl=AP win=65535 ck=e564) ninep(Tattach tag 12 fid 321 afid 320 uname madhatter aname ) 055411 ms ether(s=00c04f6ef3b5 d=000c29fd4408 pr=0800 ln=84) ip(s=192.168.0.129 d=192.168.0.10 id=1cd5 frag=0000 ttl=255 pr=6 ln=70) tcp(s=564 d=9047 seq=3080132271 ack=119743207 fl=AP win=65535 ck=628c) ninep(Rerror tag 12 ename authentication failed) 055431 ms ether(s=000c29fd4408 d=00c04f6ef3b5 pr=0800 ln=65) ip(s=192.168.0.10 d=192.168.0.129 id=0cf4 frag=0000 ttl=255 pr=6 ln=51) tcp(s=9047 d=564 seq=119743207 ack=3080132301 fl=AP win=65535 ck=8b9f) ninep(Tclunk tag 12 fid 320) 055452 ms ether(s=00c04f6ef3b5 d=000c29fd4408 pr=0800 ln=61) ip(s=192.168.0.129 d=192.168.0.10 id=1cd6 frag=0000 ttl=255 pr=6 ln=47) tcp(s=564 d=9047 seq=3080132301 ack=119743218 fl=AP win=65535 ck=8fd8) ninep(Rclunk tag 12) 055470 ms ether(s=000c29fd4408 d=00c04f6ef3b5 pr=0800 ln=60) ip(s=192.168.0.10 d=192.168.0.129 id=0cf5 frag=0000 ttl=255 pr=6 ln=40) tcp(s=9047 d=564 seq=119743218 ack=3080132308 fl=AP win=65535 ck=0fe5) 055493 ms ether(s=00c04f6ef3b5 d=000c29fd4408 pr=0800 ln=60) ip(s=192.168.0.129 d=192.168.0.10 id=1cee frag=0000 ttl=255 pr=6 ln=41) tcp(s=564 d=9047 seq=3080132307 ack=119743218 fl=AP win=65535 ck=08e5) ninep(07) 055503 ms ether(s=000c29fd4408 d=00c04f6ef3b5 pr=0800 ln=60) ip(s=192.168.0.10 d=192.168.0.129 id=0d08 frag=0000 ttl=255 pr=6 ln=40) tcp(s=9047 d=564 seq=119743218 ack=3080132308 fl=AP win=65535 ck=0fe5) On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 07:13:42AM -0700, Christopher Nielsen wrote: > Here is the output. From the logs on the auth server, it looks > like authentication is successful and a ticket is granted, but > I must admit I am not certain. > > 12: start proto=p9any role=client yields phase CNeedProtos: ok > 12: read 4093 in phase CNeedProtos yields phase CNeedProtos: phase: protocol phase error: read in state CNeedProtos > 12: write 0 in phase CNeedProtos yields phase CNeedProtos: toosmall 2048 > 12: no key matches proto=p9sk1 dom=foobarbaz.net role=speakfor user? !password? > 12: no key matches proto=p9sk1 dom=foobarbaz.net role=client user? !password? > 12: write 20 in phase CNeedProtos yields phase CNeedProtos: needkey !password? dom=foobarbaz.net proto=p9sk1 user? > 0: no key matches > 0: failure no key matches > 12: start proto=p9sk1 role=client dom=foobarbaz.net yields phase CHaveChal: ok > 12: write 20 in phase CNeedProtos yields phase CHaveProto: ok > 12: read 20 in phase CHaveProto yields phase CRelay: ok > 12: read 8 in phase CHaveChal yields phase CNeedTreq: ok > 12: read 8 in phase CRelay yields phase CRelay: ok > 12: read 4093 in phase CNeedTreq yields phase CNeedTreq: phase: protocol phase error: read in state CNeedTreq > 12: read 4093 in phase CRelay yields phase CRelay: phase: protocol phase error: read in state CNeedTreq > 12: write 0 in phase CNeedTreq yields phase CNeedTreq: toosmall 141 > 12: write 0 in phase CRelay yields phase CRelay: toosmall 141 > 12: write 141 in phase CNeedTreq yields phase CHaveTicket: ok > 12: write 141 in phase CRelay yields phase CRelay: ok > 12: read 85 in phase CHaveTicket yields phase CNeedAuth: ok > 12: read 85 in phase CRelay yields phase CRelay: ok > > Here is the corresponding entry from the auth server: > > enki Jul 21 10:05:12 tr-ok madhatter@madhatter(192.168.0.10) -> madhatter@bootes > > Thanks for the help. > > On Sun, Jul 20, 2003 at 09:28:35AM -0400, David Presotto wrote: > > what authentication errors are you getting on the calling system? In > > a window, 'echo -n debug > /mnt/factotum/ctl' then 'cat /dev/kprint'. > > In another window, try the attach. > > > > Most likely, the caller doesn't know which auth server to use for > > the auth domain of the file server and is just hanging up. > > > From: Christopher Nielsen > > To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu > > Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 22:02:44 -0700 > > Subject: [9fans] fossil and auth > > > > I have setup a standalone fossil/venti fileserver. I also > > have a standalone auth server. > > > > When I try to attach to main on the fileserver, I am getting > > authentication failures. There are no errors in the logs on > > the auth server. The output on fscons is: > > > > attach main as madhatter: phase error protocol phase error: read in state SNeedTicket > > > > Any clues as to what I might have done wrong? > > > > -- > > Christopher Nielsen > > "They who can give up essential liberty for temporary > > safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin > > > -- > Christopher Nielsen > "They who can give up essential liberty for temporary > safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin -- Christopher Nielsen "They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 06:41:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 06:41:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21605 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 06:41:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21601 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 06:41:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 06:41:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 689EC19B8F; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 17:41:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A854A19B97; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 17:41:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DB26419B8F; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 17:40:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.foobarbaz.net (unknown [64.71.129.86]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 54C1819B73 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 17:40:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.foobarbaz.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 94CD366B2A; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 14:40:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Nielsen To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] fossil and auth Message-ID: <20030721214015.GR63873@cassie.foobarbaz.net> References: <20030720050244.GG63873@cassie.foobarbaz.net> <20030721141342.GL63873@cassie.foobarbaz.net> <20030721194631.GP63873@cassie.foobarbaz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030721194631.GP63873@cassie.foobarbaz.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: cnielsen@pobox.com List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 14:40:15 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Problem solved. The contents of nvram were hosed. Rewriting them fixed everything. -- Christopher Nielsen "They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 07:27:45 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 07:27:45 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 22357 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 07:27:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 22353 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 07:27:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 07:27:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3E23619BA4; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 18:27:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EF80C19B5A; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 18:27:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CBA0019B74; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 18:26:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-10.noos.net [212.198.2.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0459319B5A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 18:26:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 103795981 invoked by uid 0); 21 Jul 2003 22:26:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.81 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 21 Jul 2003 22:26:56 -0000 Message-ID: <010901c34fd7$2dcbcdc0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: [9fans] dhog Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 00:26:49 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) i'm not sure this is the right forum, but i found this out this morning: http://unauthorised.org/dhog/index.html he was a good man -- part of the _basser hard core_. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 08:33:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 08:33:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 23654 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 08:33:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 23650 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 08:33:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 08:33:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2C75519B9D; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 19:33:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 85B2619B1A; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 19:33:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C65DA19A8B; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 19:32:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zephir.uk.clara.net (zephir.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.53]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0EBB819A10 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 19:32:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from martin.althoff.claranet.co.uk ([213.253.17.40] helo=127.0.0.1) by zephir.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19ek8S-000OoE-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 00:32:04 +0100 From: Martin Althoff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <19920271625.20030722003200@tiscali.co.uk> To: Rob Ristroph <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re[4]: [9fans] Installation fails with NVIDIA card: aux/vga does not find the card. In-Reply-To: <87el0jg4fn.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> References: <72406015.20030721180944@tiscali.co.uk> <87el0jg4fn.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: "martin.althoff" List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 00:32:00 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I mean the download you get directed to when "just" (sorry to sound so simplistic) downloading plan9 at the default links ("Download the Distribution"). This is in contrast to the daily build (in additonal downloads the "Sources Snapshot") that is also advertised at the Bell Labs download site. Hope that clarifies stuff! I had assumed you failed with one of the snapshots. The standard works fine for my TNT2. However I also tried with a ATI Mach64: fine during installation, but after first "real" boot, it just produces rubbish. Didn't pursue that as my TNT2 works fine. Except on a motherboard that has an onboard Intel vga.... As an aside - great work you did on the mbr testing. I'll follow up on that another time. It buggers me as well and I want to do more testing there myself. Strange thing too, that (like with my Mach64) the install situation is not quite the same as the HDD full boot situation. Or whatever you want to call that ... Later Martin Monday, July 21, 2003, 6:44:44 PM, you wrote: >>>>>> "Martin" == Martin Althoff writes: Martin>> Martin>> I can join the TNT2 woes... Martin>> Downloaded a "current" CD image a few days back and had no Martin>> luck with it. Also think it never got to actually running Martin>> aux/vga. Stuck with current offical distro and that fine. > What do you mean by "current official" Plan 9 ? > --Rob From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 09:41:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 09:41:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 26592 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 09:41:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 26588 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 09:41:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 09:41:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E3D3319B5A; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 20:41:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3626819B2B; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 20:41:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3E4EA19B2B; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 20:40:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5CA2A19A7C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 20:40:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6M0ePeH010333 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 18:40:25 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6M0ePOX010329 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 18:40:25 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] more fonts Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 18:40:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I've put the massive 'efont' font package on the web. the conversion alone took two hours, the download is some 67mbytes. the fonts form (supposedly) the most complete unicode font package available. visit their web page (there is a link for english there): http://openlab.jp/efont/ and the plan9 converted ones for your perusal at: http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~mirtchov/p9/efont/ andrey ps: there are no screenshots because as soon as I try to cat a file containing many glyphs Rio dies :) I'll post a message if I fix the problem (or if I receive a fix -- others know more about fonts and rio than I do :) From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 11:25:44 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 11:25:44 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 31785 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 11:25:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 31780 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 11:25:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 11:25:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9482D19B5B; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 22:25:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8D3FE19B2B; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 22:25:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1606219B31; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 22:24:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3F1E219B28 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 22:24:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6M2OHeH010404 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 20:24:17 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6M2OGiD010400 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 20:24:16 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] more fonts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 20:24:16 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I put a screenshot on the web page so you can get a better idea of how the font looks. only latin glyphs, just stuff from the fortunes file (sizes 16 and 14): http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~mirtchov/p9/efont/efont.png andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 13:23:48 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 13:23:48 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 5870 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 13:23:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 5866 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 13:23:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 13:23:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8837C19B36; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 00:23:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 35CEF19AE2; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 00:23:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 68C3519AE2; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 00:22:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp807.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp807.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.186]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id B33BC19A72 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 00:22:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from adsl-67-38-13-160.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (HELO ameritech.net) (dbailey27@ameritech.net@67.38.13.160 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 04:22:42 -0000 Message-ID: <3F1CCA42.7080801@ameritech.net> From: northern snowfall User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020518 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] zoinkmail Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 00:23:14 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Heyas, Is the pgp code available the community yet, or is that still internally used? I mean (/bin/upas/pgp), etc. Don http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 14:54:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 14:54:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10736 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 14:54:37 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10731 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 14:54:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 14:54:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B7D5C19B28; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 01:54:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AEC7819B28; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 01:54:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 425C619B31; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 01:53:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0870419B08 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 01:53:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <84012a2aa3fc4e18749151e0bc80b59e@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] /libnamespace From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: <53d568640f49bf96b676b4f5255280a1@plan9.bell-labs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 14:54:31 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Can't tell, not enough information. Are you indeed using multiple > IP stacks? How are you starting things up? Sorry to bother you. I managed it by adding a new file such /lib/namespace.$sysname which includes lines for /net.alt. Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 15:05:27 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 15:05:27 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11224 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 15:05:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11220 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 15:05:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 15:05:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7FC7E19B2B; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 02:05:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4373B19ADA; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 02:05:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3750719ADA; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 02:05:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3DC6919A02 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 02:04:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6M5rYnp019454 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 07:53:36 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h6M5rVhY019453 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 07:53:31 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans mailing list <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Message-ID: <20030722075317.D19349@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans mailing list <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us Organization: Proxima Research & Development Subject: [9fans] FS 4th Ed Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 07:53:18 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I seem to recall a small fix to the FS kernel to speed up return after command execution on the console. Right now I'm watching a check pfile print a filename every 5 seconds, approximately. I've been waiting since yesterday morning for it to complete :-( I'd like not to get caught with it in future. BTW, I'd like to remove some directory entries (in /usr/lucio/tmp) that have peculiar names and, seemingly, no matching file entry. I don't know how they occurred, nor have I been able to remove them. ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 15:09:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 15:09:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11569 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 15:09:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11565 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 15:09:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 15:09:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0D30D19B67; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 02:09:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7259219A75; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 02:09:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8C88C19AB1; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 02:08:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 59B9719A02 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 02:08:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] FS 4th Ed From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: <20030722075317.D19349@cackle.proxima.alt.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 15:09:25 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I seem to recall a small fix to the FS kernel to speed up return > after command execution on the console. Right now I'm watching a > > check pfile > > print a filename every 5 seconds, approximately. I've been waiting > since yesterday morning for it to complete :-( âş Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 15:17:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 15:17:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11921 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 15:17:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11917 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 15:17:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 15:17:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 42C1C19B6A; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 02:17:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AEF6219AB1; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 02:17:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 140BC19AB1; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 02:16:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9005319A02 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 02:16:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6M654np019487 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 08:05:07 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h6M650Yg019486 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 08:05:00 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] FS 4th Ed Message-ID: <20030722080457.E19349@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: <20030722075317.D19349@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: ; from okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp on Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 03:09:25PM +0900 Organization: Proxima Research & Development Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 08:04:58 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 03:09:25PM +0900, okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp wrote: > > > I seem to recall a small fix to the FS kernel to speed up return > > after command execution on the console. Right now I'm watching a > > > > check pfile > > > > print a filename every 5 seconds, approximately. I've been waiting > > since yesterday morning for it to complete :-( > > ? > > Kenji Does that mean disbelief? :-) :-) I may well have an old kernel, but the symptoms are real. Each command also takes a while to return to the prompt and discards any input until the prompt appears. ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 15:23:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 15:23:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12413 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 15:23:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12409 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 15:23:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 15:23:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8DF8B19B74; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 02:23:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7989D19A70; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 02:23:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EDE1319AB1; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 02:22:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C223419A70 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 02:22:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0389757a9797c2bf7aa9dc0879e47852@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] FS 4th Ed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: <20030722080457.E19349@cackle.proxima.alt.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 15:23:28 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Does that mean disbelief? :-) :-) It meant I have sympathy to you. Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 18:08:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 18:08:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20314 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 18:08:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20309 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 18:08:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 18:08:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6A4E819B40; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 05:08:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E6EF019B57; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 05:08:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D4BB919B57; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 05:07:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4FC1619A75 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 05:07:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] zoinkmail In-Reply-To: <3F1CCA42.7080801@ameritech.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 05:07:40 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I never finished because my center at the labs started using smime when I was part way through so I just gave up. Rsc was working on his own version just before he went to camp. Don't know how far he got. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 18:14:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 18:14:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20523 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 18:14:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20519 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 18:14:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 18:14:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6220119B98; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 05:14:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 17AD019B8D; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 05:14:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 838E319B7D; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 05:13:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B9BF219B31 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 05:13:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19et6d-000394-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:06:47 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Ram'on Garc'ia Fern'andez Message-ID: Organization: U.C.M Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: , Subject: [9fans] Experimental floppy failed. Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:06:22 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) It complained that the kernel could not connect to the file server because it couldn't find /bzroot. Did you test the experimental disk? Ramon From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 18:31:44 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 18:31:44 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21015 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 18:31:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21011 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 18:31:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 18:31:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8FB5119BA3; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 05:31:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DF6BF19B57; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 05:31:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9E6D419B7D; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 05:30:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A55E919B3F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 05:30:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5ac385edb93187d89a1fc1897085406a@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Installation fails with NVIDIA card: aux/vga does not find the card. In-Reply-To: <87ptk3g8zc.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-nndmltphlauavzmdypwtozkaab" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 05:30:45 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-nndmltphlauavzmdypwtozkaab Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It looks like my experimental floppy is a complete flop. However, this is more info. I didn't realize that the old boot floppy worked but that the installed stuff didn't. That makes my life easier. Ramon's "I found that the installation failed" was a git incomplete. I do see that rsc installed a new nvidia.c on June 1. The changes look more rather than less inclusive but I'll give them a closer look tonight. --upas-nndmltphlauavzmdypwtozkaab Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Mon Jul 21 12:05:52 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Mon Jul 21 12:05:49 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id ED54119B2B; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:05:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8DD8419A7C; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:05:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5B21319AFD; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:04:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgristroph-austin.ath.cx (cs24362-19.austin.rr.com [24.243.62.19]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AA4DF19A7C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:04:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgr by rgristroph-austin.ath.cx with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19edBI-0005Pn-00; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:06:32 -0500 From: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org (Rob Ristroph) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Installation fails with NVIDIA card: aux/vga does not find the card. References: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87ptk3g8zc.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> Lines: 42 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: 21 Jul 2003 11:06:31 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_GNUS_UA version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >>>>> "Ram'on" == Ram'on Garc'ia Fern'andez writes: Ramon> Ramon> I downloaded a recent Plan9 distribution. I attempted to Ramon> reinstall completely my Plan9 system. I found that the Ramon> installation failed. Ramon> Ramon> aux/vga complained that it could not find my card in /lib/vgadb . Ramon> The command pci lists my card with the correct Vendor ID for NVidia Ramon> cards 0x10DE . Ramon> Ramon> So this must be a bug in a recent aux/vga. Ramon> Ramon> My card is a Riva TN2. I have already Plan9 installed with it, Ramon> and it works perfectly with Rio. Ramon> Ramon> Ramon I also have a Riva TNT which stopped being recognized after I did a pull and recompiled my kernel sometime last month. But the install floppy always recognized it and brought it up into rio just fine; it was the stuff installed to the harddrive that failed. I downloaded the experimental floppy and tried it out just now -- I don't think it ever got to the part where it runs aux/vga: 1262958 => 744660|1113032+83740=1941432 entry: 80100020 cpu0: 401MHz AuthenticAMD AMD-K6_III (cpuid: AX 0x0591 DX 0x8021BF) ELCR: 0A00 #l0: rtl8139: 100Mbps port 0xE800 irq 9: 00904703FA06 19313 free pages, 77252K bytes, 309252K swap boot: can't connect to file server: '/bzroot' file does not exist panic: boot process died: unknown cpu0: exiting Where there changes made to vga in May or early June ? I think something in Plan 9 changed in that period that made the nvidia not work from a clean install. --Rob --upas-nndmltphlauavzmdypwtozkaab-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 18:41:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 18:41:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21480 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 18:41:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21476 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 18:41:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 18:41:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2295E19AC3; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 05:41:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E130B19B70; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 05:41:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 51D5219A07; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 05:40:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B8FF4199CF for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 05:40:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <94e19b5a3172c0e6c7bdea7f624e4f8e@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Installation fails with NVIDIA card: aux/vga does not find the card. In-Reply-To: <5ac385edb93187d89a1fc1897085406a@plan9.bell-labs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 05:40:39 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Looking at the changes it looks like a problem with the change in /lib/vgadb that lists the nvidia as ctlr vid=0x10DE did=* # NVidia cards all talk the same link=vga ctlr=nvidia linear=1 hwgc=nvidiahwgc instead of listing each did separately. The code in aux/vga for did=* looks wrong to me. I asked jmk to look at it since I don't know that code very well. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 20:13:38 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 20:13:38 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 24086 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 20:13:37 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 24082 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 20:13:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 20:13:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9B8CD19B95; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 07:13:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 745E719AB1; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 07:13:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9424419AA8; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 07:12:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from utrhcs.cs.utwente.nl (utrhcs.cs.utwente.nl [130.89.10.247]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 53BB219AA8 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 07:12:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zeus.cs.utwente.nl (zeus.cs.utwente.nl [130.89.10.12]) by utrhcs.cs.utwente.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6MBClCf000094 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 13:12:47 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from zamenhof.cs.utwente.nl (zamenhof [130.89.13.77]) by zeus.cs.utwente.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6MBCkl2026791 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 13:12:46 +0200 (MEST) Received: from localhost (belinfan@localhost) by zamenhof.cs.utwente.nl (8.11.6+Sun/8.10.2) with SMTP id h6MBCjW28013 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 13:12:45 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200307221112.h6MBCjW28013@zamenhof.cs.utwente.nl> X-Authentication-Warning: zamenhof.cs.utwente.nl: belinfan@localhost didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with version: MH 6.8.3 #20[UCI] To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] FS 4th Ed In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 22 Jul 2003 08:04:58 +0200." <20030722080457.E19349@cackle.proxima.alt.za> References: <20030722075317.D19349@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <20030722080457.E19349@cackle.proxima.alt.za> From: Axel Belinfante X-Organisation: University of Twente, Department of Computer Science, Formal Methods and Tools Group, PO Box 217, NL-7500 AE Enschede, The Netherlands X-Phone: +31 53 4893774 X-Telefax: +31 53 4893247 X-Face: 3YGZY^_!}k]>-k'9$LK?8GXbi?vs=2v*ut,/8z,z!(QNBk_>~:~"MJ_%i`sLLqGN,DGbkT@ N\jhX/jNLTz2hO_R"*RF(%bRvk+M,iU7SvVJtC*\B6Ud<7~`MGMp7rCI6LVp=%k=HE?-UCV?[p\$R? mI\n2/!#3/wZZsa[m7d;PKWiuH6'~ List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 13:12:45 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Don't know if it is related, but: When I set up my 3ed and/or 4ed file server printing to the console was quite slow (typical example would be the 'help' command which would be printed line by line) until I configured (and used?) an external console (console=0 in plan9.ini). Made _big_ difference. Axel. > > > I seem to recall a small fix to the FS kernel to speed up return > > > after command execution on the console. Right now I'm watching a > > > > > > check pfile > > > > > > print a filename every 5 seconds, approximately. I've been waiting > > > since yesterday morning for it to complete :-( > > > > ? > > > > Kenji > > Does that mean disbelief? :-) :-) > > I may well have an old kernel, but the symptoms are real. Each > command also takes a while to return to the prompt and discards any > input until the prompt appears. > > ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 20:52:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 20:52:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 24815 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 20:52:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 24811 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 20:52:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 20:52:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 14D7119B9B; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 07:52:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A3E8519B3F; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 07:52:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5924B19B7D; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 07:51:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BA64919AE8 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 07:51:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <85bf5959ad5584a766212d53ca7e2447@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] MBR and nvidia hangups In-Reply-To: <87d6g5gd8e.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 07:51:51 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) The new 'experimental' diskette will work if you edit the plan9.ini to say nobootprompt=local!/boot/bzroot instead of nobootprompt=local!/bzroot Things have changed... I'll find a new way to do an experimental diskette tonight and ask people to try it out. I think I've fixed the mbr problem and tonight we should also have a fix for the nvidia one. The mbr problem (that I found) was that the install only stuck in a new mbr if the plan9 partition information was bad. That meant that you had to zero 9fat to get a new mbr, not easily guessed. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 22:31:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 22:31:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27522 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 22:31:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27518 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 22:31:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 22:31:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3465E19B31; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:31:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2B2C319A77; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:31:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 539E019A26; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:30:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id ADC96199BE for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:30:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22678 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:30:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h6MDUi715062 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:30:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307221330.h6MDUi715062@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] FS 4th Ed In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 22 Jul 2003 08:04:58 +0200." <20030722080457.E19349@cackle.proxima.alt.za> From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:30:44 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I may well have an old kernel, but the symptoms are real. Each > command also takes a while to return to the prompt and discards any > input until the prompt appears. Using a serial console (as opposed to the CGA console) the problem is greatly attenuated. - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 22:41:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 22:41:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27831 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 22:41:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27827 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 22:41:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 22:41:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8965B19B70; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:41:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1951219A23; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:41:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id AC29C19A23; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:40:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 82F5419AA3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:40:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6MDSbnp020273 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 15:28:39 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h6MDSXNa020272 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 15:28:33 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] FS 4th Ed Message-ID: <20030722152830.G19349@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: <20030722080457.E19349@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <200307221330.h6MDUi715062@augusta.math.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: <200307221330.h6MDUi715062@augusta.math.psu.edu>; from Dan Cross on Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 09:30:44AM -0400 Organization: Proxima Research & Development Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 15:28:30 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 09:30:44AM -0400, Dan Cross wrote: > > > I may well have an old kernel, but the symptoms are real. Each > > command also takes a while to return to the prompt and discards any > > input until the prompt appears. > > Using a serial console (as opposed to the CGA console) the problem is > greatly attenuated. > Sounds like there's a timeout waiting for non-existent serial port activity? It's a small kernel, I could probably find such a problem, except I seem to recall a comment from jmk that suggested a permanent solution. Ah, then onset of senility... ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 23:06:48 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 23:06:48 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 28505 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 23:06:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 28501 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 23:06:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 23:06:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1ED7919A72; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:06:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E4A6D19A23; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:06:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6E99C19A26; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:05:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rapido.vitanuova.com (unknown [62.254.170.97]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1F62B19A1D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:05:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <8094c5486230a87031c84cbcb873866c@vitanuova.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] text utility From: rog@vitanuova.com In-Reply-To: <018401c34f7e$83d12020$b9844051@insultant.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 15:09:03 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > err, what happened to rev(1)? different thing. line vs. file has anyone actually used rev(1) in seriousness before? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 22 23:36:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 22 23:36:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 29720 invoked by uid 1020); 22 Jul 2003 23:36:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 29716 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2003 23:36:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 22 Jul 2003 23:36:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 637D019AE2; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:36:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 047D719A93; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:36:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E296719AA8; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:35:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-07.noos.net [212.198.2.76]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1293119A77 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:35:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28030315 invoked by uid 0); 22 Jul 2003 14:35:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.76 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 22 Jul 2003 14:35:32 -0000 Message-ID: <00be01c3505e$7daacf80$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <8094c5486230a87031c84cbcb873866c@vitanuova.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] text utility MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 16:35:25 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > different thing. > line vs. file i.e., write out lines with reverted order of chars) onto the neXt Archive i read that as 'reverse the order of the chars on each line'. http://www.gsp.com/cgi-bin/man.cgi?section=1&topic=rev The rev utility copies the specified files to the standard output, reversing the order of characters in every line > has anyone actually used rev(1) in seriousness before? yes, iirc, someone at the labs used it to generate a dictionary for anagrams or crosswords with some: rev | ... | rev construction. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 23 00:21:46 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 23 00:21:46 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 30840 invoked by uid 1020); 23 Jul 2003 00:21:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 30836 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2003 00:21:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 00:21:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E2DC419AE1; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:21:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A257D19AC9; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:21:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1CF8819AA8; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:20:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4398519A06 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:20:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6MFKheH011299 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:20:43 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6MFKhMS011295 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:20:43 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] fossil/flchk crash Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:20:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) fossil/flchk crashes with division by zero if a bad cache blocks count is given as an argument. here's a diff: plan9% diff flchk.c /sys/src/cmd/fossil/flchk.c 57,58d56 < if(csize == 0) < usage(); plan9% From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 23 00:34:45 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 23 00:34:45 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 31182 invoked by uid 1020); 23 Jul 2003 00:34:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 31178 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2003 00:34:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 00:34:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id F139419B73; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:34:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6F8EA19AFC; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:34:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C0AA319AE8; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:33:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D504C19AA8 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:33:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6MFXAeH011317 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:33:10 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6MFXApN011313 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:33:10 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans mailing list <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] FS 4th Ed In-Reply-To: <20030722075317.D19349@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:33:10 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Lucio De Re wrote: > BTW, I'd like to remove some directory entries (in /usr/lucio/tmp) > that have peculiar names and, seemingly, no matching file entry. > I don't know how they occurred, nor have I been able to remove > them. > does it look like this: plan9-2% ls -l --rwxr-xr-x M 96 andrey andrey 0 Jul 16 22:44 b16.81F7-8202 plan9-2% rm * rm: b16.81F7-8202: 'b16.81F7-8202' corrupted file entry plan9-2% echo 'begone' > b16.81F7-8202 b16.81F7-8202: rc: can't open: file already exists plan9-2% if this is the case 'clri' would fix it on the fossil console. run fossil/flchk on it and you may see something like: # clri /snapshot/2003/0721/1500/usr/andrey/font/efont/b16/b16.81F7-8202 (with your corresponding file entry, of course) if that's not the case, try the 'remove' command on the fossil console. andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 23 01:23:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; 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Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:24:58 -0500 From: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org (Rob Ristroph) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: Re[4]: [9fans] Installation fails with NVIDIA card: aux/vga does not find the card. References: <72406015.20030721180944@tiscali.co.uk> <87el0jg4fn.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> <19920271625.20030722003200@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <19920271625.20030722003200@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <87u19eedgm.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> Lines: 40 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: 22 Jul 2003 11:24:57 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_GNUS_UA version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >>>>> "Martin" == Martin Althoff writes: Martin> Martin> I mean the download you get directed to when "just" (sorry to Martin> sound so simplistic) downloading plan9 at the default links Martin> ("Download the Distribution"). This is in contrast to the Martin> daily build (in additonal downloads the "Sources Snapshot") Martin> that is also advertised at the Bell Labs download site. Martin> Martin> Hope that clarifies stuff! It does; thanks ! Martin> I had assumed you failed with one of the snapshots. The Martin> standard works fine for my TNT2. However I also tried with a Martin> ATI Mach64: fine during installation, but after first "real" Martin> boot, it just produces rubbish. Didn't pursue that as my TNT2 Martin> works fine. Except on a motherboard that has an onboard Intel Martin> vga.... I believe I used the "standard" one. I'll try the snapshot later this week. Martin> As an aside - great work you did on the mbr testing. I'll Martin> follow up on that another time. It buggers me as well and I Martin> want to do more testing there myself. Strange thing too, that Martin> (like with my Mach64) the install situation is not quite the Martin> same as the HDD full boot situation. Or whatever you want to Martin> call that ... It's likely a matter of different kernels and aux/vga on the install floppy versus the main system. I'd like to fix the floppy if I get the time. I would need to test on both large (LBA) and older smaller drives, and I would need to investigate how to detect what MBR to put on in each case (presuming that one needs different ones). I won't be able to fiddle with that for a bit however. --Rob From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 23 01:31:56 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 23 01:31:56 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 32223 invoked by uid 1020); 23 Jul 2003 01:31:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 32219 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2003 01:31:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 01:31:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8341A19B7D; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 12:31:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CE00A19AE8; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 12:31:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B35DD19AFC; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 12:30:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgristroph-austin.ath.cx (cs24362-19.austin.rr.com [24.243.62.19]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1979B199EE for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 12:30:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgr by rgristroph-austin.ath.cx with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19f04B-0002jm-00; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:32:43 -0500 From: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org (Rob Ristroph) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] MBR and nvidia hangups References: <85bf5959ad5584a766212d53ca7e2447@plan9.bell-labs.com> In-Reply-To: <85bf5959ad5584a766212d53ca7e2447@plan9.bell-labs.com> Message-ID: <87ptk2ed3o.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: rgr@sdf.lonestar.org List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: 22 Jul 2003 11:32:43 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_GNUS_UA version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >>>>> "David" == David Presotto writes: David> David> The new 'experimental' diskette will work if you edit the David> plan9.ini to say nobootprompt=local!/boot/bzroot David> David> instead of David> David> nobootprompt=local!/bzroot David> David> Things have changed... David> David> I'll find a new way to do an experimental diskette tonight and David> ask people to try it out. I think I've fixed the mbr problem David> and tonight we should also have a fix for the nvidia one. David> David> The mbr problem (that I found) was that the install only stuck David> in a new mbr if the plan9 partition information was bad. That David> meant that you had to zero 9fat to get a new mbr, not easily David> guessed. Cool ! I'll find time for a round of testing Wednesday or Thursday. I haven't configured the fresh install so I have nothing to loose by repeating installs in a few different configurations, with large and small disks. I can also try having the Plan 9 disk be other than the first IDE device, and any other weird cases folks think should tested. --Rob From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 23 01:41:48 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 23 01:41:48 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 32416 invoked by uid 1020); 23 Jul 2003 01:41:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 32412 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2003 01:41:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 01:41:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B3C2119AB1; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 12:41:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3922619B57; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 12:41:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A016D19A14; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 12:40:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rapido.vitanuova.com (unknown [62.254.170.97]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1154D19A14 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 12:40:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] text utility From: rog@vitanuova.com In-Reply-To: <00be01c3505e$7daacf80$b9844051@insultant.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 17:43:32 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > i read that as 'reverse the order of the chars on each line'. looking at the original... yes. so not really "reverse cat" at all. BTW pac, i can't access your ftp site; connection works ok, but (passive-mode) directory listing just hangs under all the clients i've tried. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 23 03:06:35 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 23 03:06:35 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 1446 invoked by uid 1020); 23 Jul 2003 03:06:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 1442 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2003 03:06:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 03:06:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4331019B9F; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 14:06:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C783419B6F; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 14:06:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3543C19B57; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 14:05:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zephir.uk.clara.net (zephir.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.53]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7E22819B02 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 14:05:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from martin.althoff.claranet.co.uk ([213.253.17.40] helo=127.0.0.1) by zephir.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19f1VW-000Btp-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:05:02 +0100 From: Martin Althoff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <851218468.20030722190500@tiscali.co.uk> To: Rob Ristroph <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re[6]: [9fans] Installation fails with NVIDIA card: aux/vga does not find the card. In-Reply-To: <87u19eedgm.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> References: <72406015.20030721180944@tiscali.co.uk> <87el0jg4fn.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> <19920271625.20030722003200@tiscali.co.uk> <87u19eedgm.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: "martin.althoff" List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:05:00 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I'd like to fix the floppy if I get the time. I would need to test on > both large (LBA) and older smaller drives, and I would need to > investigate how to detect what MBR to put on in each case (presuming > that one needs different ones). I won't be able to fiddle with that > for a bit however. It well worth to also look in great detail at the partition table. Use a tool of your choice. The dos prog PART (Ranish) does a good job or fdisk from Linux. I am using Timo Linux Rescue CD. I found what gets written into the partition table during the install has some great variance (sorry to be vage, I'll detail it later), eg. entry present, but no type set. Can you or anybody tell me what prog/script actually controlls the installation process? I mean calling fdisk, mbr, displaying the messages... I'd like to have a close look there to understand why certain errors appear. Besides, instal's are a bit of a hobby... :) From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 23 04:58:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 23 04:58:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 3018 invoked by uid 1020); 23 Jul 2003 04:58:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 3014 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2003 04:58:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 04:58:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9ED9919B97; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 15:58:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7EB7F19A2D; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 15:58:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DA34919A32; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 15:57:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zephir.uk.clara.net (zephir.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.53]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 379EA19A26 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 15:57:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from martin.althoff.claranet.co.uk ([213.253.17.40] helo=127.0.0.1) by zephir.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19f3Gf-0000ew-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 20:57:49 +0100 From: Martin Althoff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <842125109.20030722205750@tiscali.co.uk> To: Rob Ristroph <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re[2]: [9fans] MBR and nvidia hangups In-Reply-To: <87ptk2ed3o.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> References: <85bf5959ad5584a766212d53ca7e2447@plan9.bell-labs.com> <87ptk2ed3o.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: "martin.althoff" List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 20:57:50 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) David>> I'll find a new way to do an experimental diskette tonight and David>> ask people to try it out. I think I've fixed the mbr problem > Cool ! I'll find time for a round of testing Wednesday or Thursday. Same on my part! Just rigged up another system without case... Ehmm... David, where do (will) I find that diskette? 'xcuse my newbieishness... cheers, Martin From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 23 05:01:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 23 05:01:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 3068 invoked by uid 1020); 23 Jul 2003 05:01:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 3064 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2003 05:01:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 05:01:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9928C19BA1; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 16:01:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7B23F19B57; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 16:01:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9D75A19A32; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 16:00:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C74DB19A26 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 16:00:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6MK0PeH011902 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 14:00:25 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6MK0Pdg011898 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 14:00:25 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] another fossil crash Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 14:00:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) this time doing a 'cd ..' in an rm -rf-ed directory: assert failed: bn != NilBlock fossil 91: suicide: sys: trap: fault read addr=0x0 pc=0x0002b5af From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 23 08:24:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 23 08:24:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 6549 invoked by uid 1020); 23 Jul 2003 08:24:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 6545 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2003 08:24:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 08:24:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A6F9A19B69; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:24:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 36ED619A0B; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:24:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6A50819AFC; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:23:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7B4641998C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:23:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6MNNVeH012239 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 17:23:31 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6MNNVTh012235 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 17:23:31 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] fixes to unicode fonts (not in the plan9 distribution) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 17:23:31 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) If you're using any of the 10646 fonts converted to plan9 recently you may have observed that some of the characters are missing (most notably -- tilde (~) isn't there). this was traced to a bug in bdf2subf which caused the last glyph of any subfont not to be displayed. corresponding man page snippet from cachechars(2): The info array has n+1 elements, one each for characters 0 to n-1 plus an additional entry so the size of the last character can be calculated. Thus the width, w, of the Image associated with a Subfont s is s->info[s->n].x. bdf2subf wasn't creating the n-th array index. the new, updated packages are on the web at the same place: http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~mirtchov/p9/fonts/ including even the 18x18ko korean glyphs we couldn't encode the last time. I've tested all fonts to the best of my knowledge using 'unicode 0x0-0xffff'. andrey ps: the fonts that look the best are: 10x20 6x13 7x13 8x13 9x15 9x18 pps: i've started the efonts conversion, but that'll take a few hours. then testing is a few more, so wait until tomorrow to download ~70mb of fonts :) From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 23 08:29:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 23 08:29:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 6637 invoked by uid 1020); 23 Jul 2003 08:29:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 6633 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2003 08:29:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 08:29:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7F71919B6C; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:29:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1216519AFC; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:29:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 92D1819AFC; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:28:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from collyer.net (collyer.net [63.192.14.226]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 980731998C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:28:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5d6d2e6816f4cad3c83e828f8683e9ab@collyer.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] text utility From: Geoff Collyer In-Reply-To: <8094c5486230a87031c84cbcb873866c@vitanuova.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 16:28:05 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I'm pretty sure it was Doug McIlroy who used rev rhymdict to produce a rhyming dictionary. To find rhyming words, you'd reverse the suffix of a word, look that up and reverse the result: look `{echo suffix | rev} rhymdict | rev This is described in a memo called `Webster's 2nd on the head of a pin' and dates from the mid-1970s. (I have a copy somewhere.) As for tac, tail -1000000000r does the job for most files of interest (those under a billion lines). I just tried it on a file of ~250,000 lines; it's quite quick. Alternatively, awk '{print NR, $0}' | sort -nr | sed 's/^[0-9]+ //' does the job more slowly. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 23 10:43:52 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 23 10:43:52 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12849 invoked by uid 1020); 23 Jul 2003 10:43:39 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12845 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2003 10:43:38 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 10:43:38 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6AE1A19B21; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:43:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 04A3719AFC; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:43:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B3EB119AD0; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:42:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from galapagos.cse.psu.edu (galapagos.cse.psu.edu [130.203.12.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 25A3519A1D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:42:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12972 invoked by uid 991); 23 Jul 2003 01:42:21 -0000 Message-ID: <20030723014221.12971.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] ppp patches In-reply-to: <77820afbb22b2225e70aa127e54c4a9a@plan9.bell-labs.com> References: <77820afbb22b2225e70aa127e54c4a9a@plan9.bell-labs.com> Comments: In-reply-to David Presotto message dated "Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:08:27 -0400." From: Scott Schwartz Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:42:21 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) | As for the server= field, we can easily pass that in as a parameter that will | get passed to factotum. I'm not so sure about dialstrings. They really aren't | part of the security info and, at least in the case of the 3 ISP's I deal with, | are relative to where I'm dialing from. I'ld rather not stick that all into | my secstore. Hm. Ok, I guess. I'll have to play with the scripts some more and see how they feel. | Thanks, does this sound reasonable to you? Pretty much. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 23 11:20:50 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 23 11:20:50 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15151 invoked by uid 1020); 23 Jul 2003 11:20:47 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15137 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2003 11:20:38 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 11:20:38 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8AFAA199D8; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 22:20:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 14C9A19B14; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 22:20:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 491ED19B02; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 22:19:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alchar.org (alchar.org [66.92.236.138]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id AECC419AD0 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 22:19:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 3766 invoked by uid 100); 23 Jul 2003 02:19:18 -0000 From: Kris Van Hees To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: <20030722221918.B28606@alchar.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Subject: [9fans] Faces Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 22:19:18 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Little side question: Is there an authorative source of faces files that new entries can be submitted to for general availability? Kris -- Never underestimate a Mage with: - the Intelligence to cast Magic Missile, - the Constitution to survive the first hit, and - the Dexterity to run fast enough to avoid being hit a second time. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 23 12:04:38 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 23 12:04:38 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 17534 invoked by uid 1020); 23 Jul 2003 12:04:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 17528 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2003 12:04:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 12:04:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5291619B57; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 23:04:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6937919AF4; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 23:04:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7939D19B02; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 23:03:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 920D019AD0 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 23:03:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6N334eH012517 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:03:04 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6N3332E012513 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:03:04 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Faces In-Reply-To: <20030722221918.B28606@alchar.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:03:03 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Dave Presotto (presotto@plan9.bell-labs) volunteered :) On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Kris Van Hees wrote: > Little side question: Is there an authorative source of faces files that new > entries can be submitted to for general availability? > > Kris > From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 23 14:57:43 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 23 14:57:43 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 25869 invoked by uid 1020); 23 Jul 2003 14:56:58 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 25852 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2003 14:56:40 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 14:56:40 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B569719B01; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 01:56:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1F58B19A21; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 01:56:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B91E219A6C; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 01:55:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailnw.centurytel.net (mailnw.centurytel.net [209.206.160.237]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D821C19A11 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 01:55:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from laptopvmw.9netics.com ([64.91.109.37]) by mailnw.centurytel.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6N5tUY6001726 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 22:55:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <97190227f57854b8e5c5cb538db5d0f7@centurytel.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] fixes to unicode fonts (not in the plan9 distribution) From: "Skip Tavakkolian" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 22:55:34 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > bdf2subf wasn't creating the n-th array index. As Homer would say: D'oh! From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 23 15:27:35 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 23 15:27:35 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27595 invoked by uid 1020); 23 Jul 2003 15:27:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27591 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2003 15:27:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 15:27:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 78D3019B23; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 02:27:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CD2DF19A88; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 02:27:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5971519A93; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 02:26:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz (clusterb.asuch.cas.cz [147.231.136.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6A90419981 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 02:26:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from picture ([147.231.139.42]) by XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 23 Jul 2003 08:26:50 +0200 Message-ID: <000701c350e3$6655c080$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> From: "pac" To: "9fans" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jul 2003 06:26:50.0163 (UTC) FILETIME=[665C5030:01C350E3] Subject: [9fans] S-expressions Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 08:26:50 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) hi, friends! thanks a lot for a discussion of xml (on 'don't shoot me' thread. from the three alternatives (xml | asn.1 | sexp) i liked the best the s-expressions. so, here is the Matt Sottile's lib "ported" to plan9: ftp://ftp.gli.cas.cz/gli/cejchan/neXt/libs/sexpr_0.3.2.tbz yeah, and it does not know anything about runes (it is ape :-( so, if anyone wants to put their hands on it... thanks, and enjoy! ++pac. --- Odchozí zpráva neobsahuje viry. Zkontrolováno antivirovým systémem AVG (http://www.grisoft.cz). Verze: 6.0.502 / Virová báze: 300 - datum vydání: 18.7.2003 From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 23 20:15:49 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 23 20:15:49 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 7068 invoked by uid 1020); 23 Jul 2003 20:15:43 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 7064 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2003 20:15:43 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 20:15:43 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A180519A84; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 07:15:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B47EC19B3B; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 07:15:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2752719AB3; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 07:14:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from larch (unknown [195.173.15.12]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 421F819A67 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 07:14:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <8db6ea68d1cba1bc0b101c4471e45e32@yourdomain.dom> From: steve.simon@snellwilcox.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] 9p questions Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:13:59 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi, two questions about 9p semantics: 1/ Netware will not let me rename a file which is open. So, when wstat updates a file's name does 9p place a restriction on wether the file is open or not? Do I have to do a close, rename and reopen on rename or is just close safe? I guess the answer is reopen the file - more races :-( Netware has similar restrictions on deleteing files/dirs so I am closing then also, but I cannot imagine any side effects from this. 2/ Netware changes its file ID (which I map to Qid) when a file is renamed. Using lib9p is it OK to change fid->qid in wstat, under the libraries feet so to speak? Also, will it mess up plan9 clients? -Steve From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 23 20:58:45 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 23 20:58:45 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 7930 invoked by uid 1020); 23 Jul 2003 20:58:44 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 7926 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2003 20:58:44 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 20:58:44 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4317919B48; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 07:58:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B004E19B96; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 07:58:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0F6FF199F4; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 07:57:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 607BA19A05 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 07:57:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 135.255.41.130 ([135.255.41.130]) by plan9; Wed Jul 23 07:57:05 EDT 2003 Message-ID: <008601c35132$afe019e0$8229ff87@bl.belllabs.com> From: "david presotto" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: [9fans] nvidia problems Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:54:22 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_FUTURE_03_06 version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I'm going to be unavailable for anything for the next week. Would the people with the nvidia problems and the new release email jmk exactly what your systems say and he'll deal with it. Thanks. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 23 23:40:41 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 23 23:40:41 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12137 invoked by uid 1020); 23 Jul 2003 23:40:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12133 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2003 23:40:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 23:40:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D624F19BA0; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:40:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 194F619AA0; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:40:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2BB0A19BA0; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:39:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailrelay2.lanl.gov (mailrelay2.lanl.gov [128.165.4.103]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2C71619B96 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:39:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay2.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6NEdKr5015200 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 08:39:20 -0600 Received: from maxroach.lanl.gov (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6NEdKAO024053 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 08:39:20 -0600 From: ron minnich To: 9fans <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] S-expressions In-Reply-To: <000701c350e3$6655c080$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.35 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 08:39:19 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I think Matt would welcome a native port of his library too. ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 23 23:57:46 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 23 23:57:46 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12558 invoked by uid 1020); 23 Jul 2003 23:57:45 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12554 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2003 23:57:44 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 23 Jul 2003 23:57:44 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0CCE619AF2; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:57:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 60B6C19BAF; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:57:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 75A3D19AA8; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:56:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rapido.vitanuova.com (unknown [62.254.170.97]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3BF3B19AF2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:56:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] 9p questions From: rog@vitanuova.com In-Reply-To: <8db6ea68d1cba1bc0b101c4471e45e32@yourdomain.dom> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 15:59:30 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > So, when wstat updates a file's name does 9p place a > restriction on wether the file is open or not? no - you can wstat whether the file is open or not (fwstat, wstat). you could always return an error if a rename was attempted when the file was open. presumably the file can be currently open by another user, so i'd assume doing a close/rename/reopen is unlikely to be sufficient in general. i don't know if much plan 9 infrastructure relies on being able to use fwstat to rename a file (the most likely candidate, upas, doesn't use fwstat to rename the mbox, but then again it might easily be holding another fd open on it). > Netware has similar restrictions on deleteing files/dirs so > I am closing then also, but I cannot imagine any side > effects from this. remove is a clunk anyway, so no problems there (apart from if another process has it open, as above, but nothing you can do there). > Using lib9p is it OK to change fid->qid in wstat, under the > libraries feet so to speak? this is fairly dodgy; the only times AFAIK that a qid corresponding to a fid can be changed are attach, create, open and walk, and all these return the new qid in the rmsg. > Also, will it mess up plan9 clients? good question... 'cos i know it's difficult verging on impossible to manufacture a proper qid space for some imported filesystems. i know that inferno used a hash of the filename for its ntfs filesystem under windows for quite a while, and most things worked ok. i think it still does the same thing, with the exception that a file which has been walked to keeps the same qid for as long as there's a reference to it. this ensures that a bind onto a directory stays put even though the directory has been renamed, but it's not perfect. i may be wrong about this too, as i didn't have anything to do with the changes. cheers, rog. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 24 00:01:45 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 24 00:01:45 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12640 invoked by uid 1020); 24 Jul 2003 00:01:44 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12636 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 00:01:44 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 00:01:44 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D26AA19B2D; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:01:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F3BC019BB1; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:01:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 45BF719BB1; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:00:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 55C9319AA8 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:00:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6NF05eH013453 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 09:00:05 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6NF05Jh013449 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 09:00:05 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] fossil output suggestion Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 09:00:05 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I'm wondering: would it be a good idea to put some sort of timestamps on the fossil debugging output? Consider this morning's findings: disk: io=10004 at 6.913ms disk: io=10000 at 9.081ms disk: io=10000 at 0.714ms disk: io=10004 at 0.767ms disk: io=10000 at 20.019ms disk: io=10000 at 18.242ms could not write super block; waiting 10 seconds could not write super block; waiting 10 seconds could not write super block; waiting 10 seconds could not write super block; waiting 10 seconds could not write super block; waiting 10 seconds could not write super block; waiting 10 seconds I'd like to be able to connect that with regular activities such as a 'snap -a' same goes for the fossil console output -- maybe the prompt should be the current time :) andrey ps: I know fossil doesn't do logging, and thanx to Nemo I have the information saved using: cat /srv/fscons > /sys/log/fossil how about a program similar to 'logger' in lunix, which just logs whatever is piped to it with proper timestamps: cat /srv/fscons | logger /sys/log/fossil that may be a better solution, no? should I write one? no? :) for your consideration, andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 24 00:03:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 24 00:03:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12734 invoked by uid 1020); 24 Jul 2003 00:03:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12726 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 00:03:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 00:03:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 08CA719BB4; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:03:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C2F0C19BAF; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:03:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D63EF19BB1; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:02:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rapido.vitanuova.com (unknown [62.254.170.97]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 050CB19AE0 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:02:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] text utility From: rog@vitanuova.com In-Reply-To: <5d6d2e6816f4cad3c83e828f8683e9ab@collyer.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 16:05:14 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > As for tac, > > tail -1000000000r interesting... i'd imagined that tac would send all the *bytes* (or maybe characters) in a file to stdout, in reverse. that's three (or four) possible definitions for tac so far. i wonder how many others there might be. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 24 00:16:42 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 24 00:16:42 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13297 invoked by uid 1020); 24 Jul 2003 00:16:41 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13293 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 00:16:41 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 00:16:41 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 613CE19BBF; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:16:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BD94619BB7; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:16:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C9D6D19B5C; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:15:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from larch (unknown [195.173.15.12]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D84D619B96 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:15:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <9672026969b30fd7ee77df3d0c05137b@yourdomain.dom> From: steve.simon@snellwilcox.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] 9p questions In-Reply-To: <599525253@snellwilcox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 16:15:15 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi, Thanks rog for your comments. I forgot to say the app that caused problems with renaming open files was CVS, which doesn't bother closing temporary files before moving them into place. Just closing the file worked fine here (fd leak in CVS?) and got me using ncpfs in anger (read thorough testing :-), but a better solution is really required. -Steve From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 24 00:28:45 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 24 00:28:45 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13561 invoked by uid 1020); 24 Jul 2003 00:28:44 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13557 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 00:28:44 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 00:28:44 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B1F9919A28; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:28:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3609119B96; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:28:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A6B0919A67; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:27:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 12662199F0 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:27:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] fossil output suggestion In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:27:03 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Wed Jul 23 11:01:38 EDT 2003, mirtchov@cpsc.ucalgary.ca wrote: > ... > ps: I know fossil doesn't do logging, and thanx to Nemo I have the > information saved using: > > cat /srv/fscons > /sys/log/fossil > > how about a program similar to 'logger' in lunix, which just logs whatever > is piped to it with proper timestamps: > > cat /srv/fscons | logger /sys/log/fossil > > that may be a better solution, no? should I write one? no? :) > ... i had a logging system in one of the pre-cursors to fossil which i was going to add, but lost interest. all our consoles are managed and logged with consolefs + clog. looking in /sys/log/mkfile, the following might work for you: aux/clog /srv/fscons /sys/log/fossil & From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 24 00:34:42 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 24 00:34:42 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13718 invoked by uid 1020); 24 Jul 2003 00:34:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13714 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 00:34:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 00:34:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D9F58199F0; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:34:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D711419B96; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:34:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C696519AA8; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:33:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3D18D199F0 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:33:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0c673154619ee7d236b650797c840846@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] nvidia problems In-Reply-To: <008601c35132$afe019e0$8229ff87@bl.belllabs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:33:41 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Wed Jul 23 07:58:44 EDT 2003, presotto@closedmind.org wrote: > I'm going to be unavailable for anything for the next week. Would the > people with the nvidia problems and the new release email jmk exactly > what your systems say and he'll deal with it. Thanks. output from the new aux/vga -p (you should be able to do this on an old system) with the vgadb entry set to ctlr vid=0x10DE did=* # NVidia cards all talk the same link=vga ctlr=nvidia linear=1 hwgc=nvidiahwgc would be helpful. thanks. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 24 00:38:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 24 00:38:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13803 invoked by uid 1020); 24 Jul 2003 00:38:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13799 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 00:38:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 00:38:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7C5BD19BB7; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:38:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2430C19BB5; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:38:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6CA1F19BAD; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:37:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fep01-svc.flexmail.it (fep01.tuttopmi.it [212.131.248.100]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 30B2C19B5C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:37:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from volpe.it ([81.74.168.19]) by fep01-svc.flexmail.it (InterMail vM.5.01.05.09 201-253-122-126-109-20020611) with ESMTP id <20030723153706.GWMT1564.fep01-svc.flexmail.it@volpe.it> for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:37:06 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Type: text/plain; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed From: Vincenzo Volpe To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <3874D5A2-BD23-11D7-B479-000393BD4420@volpe.it> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Subject: [9fans] (no subject) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:34:59 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,USER_AGENT_APPLEMAIL version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi all, I tried to install Plan9 from a CD obtained from the image on the site. It seems installation instructions (http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/installation_instructions/ index.html)refers to an older version: kfs is now deprecated and no info on fossil or fossil+venti installation. then trying to install all options fails with different problems: 1) fossil+venti (default install) stop after prepdisk menu made partitions with the following unrecoverable message: "hey you finished everything! not supposed to happen" No other messages, in any of the windows. 2) fossil only and kfs install fail because installr cannot allow to chose the CD device as image source. Al suggestion welcome Ciao and thanks Vincenzo Volpe From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 24 01:25:38 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 24 01:25:38 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15156 invoked by uid 1020); 24 Jul 2003 01:25:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15152 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 01:25:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 01:25:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 55BF119BB9; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:25:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6DC2019B5C; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:25:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C6F1419B8A; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:24:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CE42619B96 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:24:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6NGODeH013728 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:24:13 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6NGOCF9013724 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:24:13 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] flchk's "bfree" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:24:12 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Running fossil/flchk on a fossil that has experienced a few crashes reports 162229 blocks as being lost, and prints a friendly reminder to 'bfree' them. Are any other users experiencing such a high number of lossage, or is this something particular just to my installation (having in mind that I manage to crash fossil 3 out of 5 days a week)? Are those artifacts of my crashes, and if they are, can I safely bfree them? andrey ps: my fossil is large enough so that I need not worry about space limitations for now. i'm taking hourly fossil snaps, with the low epoch trailing some 24 hours behind. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 24 01:37:46 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 24 01:37:46 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15371 invoked by uid 1020); 24 Jul 2003 01:37:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15367 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 01:37:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 01:37:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D29B119B5C; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:37:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 385C019B3B; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:37:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5528E19B8A; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:36:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B4ECC19B3B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:36:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <52bd30fe791a1556eaebc33bb3719ff0@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <3874D5A2-BD23-11D7-B479-000393BD4420@volpe.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:36:35 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) There are many things wrong with the current CD image. Presotto believes he has most of them fixed, but a new image won't be available until he returns in a week or so. On Wed Jul 23 11:38:30 EDT 2003, vinnie@volpe.it wrote: > Hi all, > I tried to install Plan9 from a CD obtained from the image on the site. > > It seems installation instructions > (http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/installation_instructions/ > index.html)refers to an older version: kfs is now deprecated and no > info on fossil or fossil+venti installation. > then trying to install all options fails with different problems: > > 1) fossil+venti (default install) stop after prepdisk menu made > partitions with the following unrecoverable message: > "hey you finished everything! not supposed to happen" > No other messages, in any of the windows. > > 2) fossil only and kfs install fail because installr cannot allow to > chose the CD device as image source. > > Al suggestion welcome > > > Ciao and thanks > > Vincenzo Volpe From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 24 03:43:44 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 24 03:43:44 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 17720 invoked by uid 1020); 24 Jul 2003 03:43:42 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 17691 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 03:43:39 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 03:43:39 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1B04819B96; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 14:43:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 947A019AE0; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 14:43:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C455819AFB; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 14:42:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2844519ABF for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 14:42:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16640 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 14:42:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h6NIgk723821 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 14:42:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307231842.h6NIgk723821@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] text utility In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 23 Jul 2003 16:05:14 BST." From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 14:42:46 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Why not use the definition of the tac utility that used to be distributed with BSD Unix? I think it printed out lines in reverse order (similar to tail -r). Something to print out all the bytes in a file in reverse order might be useful, though. Currently, I can't think why. - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 24 04:24:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 24 04:24:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 18446 invoked by uid 1020); 24 Jul 2003 04:24:38 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 18442 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 04:24:37 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 04:24:37 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8B59619B52; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 15:24:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8549A19A2A; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 15:24:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 457CA19A9C; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 15:23:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.foobarbaz.net (unknown [64.71.129.86]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 915CE19A07 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 15:23:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.foobarbaz.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CF38766B2A; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:23:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Nielsen To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: <20030723192342.GF63873@cassie.foobarbaz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Subject: [9fans] Fossil Questions Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: cnielsen@pobox.com List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:23:42 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Is it just me or does fossil not clear the write buffer after 'snap -a' is performed? I am in the process of archiving my music collection to fossil+venti, executing 'snap -a' when the write buffer gets close to full. I was expecting to be able to just start writing to the buffer once the archival snapshot finished. Instead, it seems that I have to 'flfmt -v ...' the write buffer and restart fossil. This is a bit cumbersome when you have a fileserver that boots from fossil+venti. Also, from what I have experinced so far, fossil gets very cranky and does not recover gracefully when the write buffer is filled. I know people are on vacation and such, and I am more than happy to dive into the code to address this. Before I do, I want to make sure the behavior I am seeing is accurate and the behavior I expect is desired. That said, I must say the system is quite robust from a data safety standpoint. I've been through repeated crashes and have not lost any data that was archived to venti. Very nice work guys. -- Christopher Nielsen "They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 24 05:29:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 24 05:29:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 19773 invoked by uid 1020); 24 Jul 2003 05:29:37 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 19769 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 05:29:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 05:29:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 23C6F19AFB; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 16:29:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 641D019B65; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 16:29:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E296919AFB; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 16:28:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 11BC619A92 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 16:28:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6NKSMeH014425 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 14:28:22 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6NKSM17014421 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 14:28:22 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] efont package now fixed and converted Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 14:28:22 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I've also broken it down into packages with more manageable sizes: http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~mirtchov/p9/efont/ the b16 and b16_b fonts look great and have a fairly complete set of characters. screenshots for most of the fonts are linked to from the web page. andrey ps: the complete package download still stands at 67mbytes From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 24 06:09:49 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 24 06:09:49 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20234 invoked by uid 1020); 24 Jul 2003 06:09:38 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20230 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 06:09:38 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 06:09:38 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E928119B7E; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:09:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A910B19A9C; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:09:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A25F719AE5; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:08:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cerberus.uk.clara.net (cerberus.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.103]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 36B6C19A1E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:08:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from martin.althoff.claranet.co.uk ([213.253.17.40] helo=127.0.0.1) by cerberus.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #3) id 19fQr0-0005ao-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 22:08:55 +0100 From: Martin Althoff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <16712074125.20030723220853@tiscali.co.uk> To: "jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re[2]: [9fans] nvidia problems In-Reply-To: <0c673154619ee7d236b650797c840846@plan9.bell-labs.com> References: <0c673154619ee7d236b650797c840846@plan9.bell-labs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: "martin.althoff" List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 22:08:53 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) OK, here goes what I got. Even with unmodified VGADB (full nvidia listing), aux/vga tries to use the first pci device available (DID 01E0) which, on the main board with nvidia2 chipset, happens to be the hostbridge. Not to good as vga device I'd guess... Somehow it seems the search sees the first nvidia VID, grabs the corresponding DID (01E0), concludes correctly that is unuseable and quits. Correlating to that is the message: pcirouting: Southbridge 10DE/01E0 not found and then later ignoring that. The same DID as the TNT2... If I missed any details, I'm happy to try again. Martin Hardware used: ---------------------------- NVIDIA TNT2 Model 64 (10de/002d) on motherboard Asus A7N8X using nvidia2 chipset using ISO and boot diskette downloaded from http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/plan9dist/download.html To identify the ISO: plan9.iso/bootdisk.img is dated 26/9/2002 Bootup messages with unmodified VGADB ---------------------------- pcirouting: Southbridge 10DE/01E0 not found PCI.0.0.0 10DE/01E0 .... aux/vga: nvidia: DID 01E0 unsupported aux/vga: nvidia: DID 01E0 unsupported (line is twice) ... rio: can't open display.... output in pci.txt: ------------- 0.0.0: 06.00.00 10de/01e0 0 0.0.1: 05.00.00 10de/01eb 255 0.0.2: 05.00.00 10de/01ee 255 0.0.3: 05.00.00 10de/01ed 0 0.0.4: 05.00.00 10de/01ec 255 0.0.5: 05.00.00 10de/01ef 255 0.1.0: 06.01.00 10de/0060 0 0.1.1: 0c.05.00 10de/0064 3 0:0000e401 32 0.12.0: 06.04.00 10de/006d 0 0.2.0: 0c.03.10 10de/0067 11 0:ea080000 4096 0.2.1: 0c.03.10 10de/0067 7 0:ea083000 4096 0.2.2: 0c.03.20 10de/0068 5 0:ea084000 256 0.30.0: 06.04.00 10de/01e8 0 0.4.0: 02.00.00 10de/0066 5 0:ea085000 4096 1:0000d001 16 [ONBOARD nvidia ethernet] 0.5.0: 04.01.00 10de/006b 3 0:ea000000 524288 0.6.0: 04.01.00 10de/006a 11 0:0000d401 256 1:0000d801 128 2:ea081000 4096 0.8.0: 06.04.00 10de/006c 0 0.9.0: 01.01.8a 10de/0065 0 4:0000f001 16 1.6.0: 03.00.00 10de/002d 7 0:e6000000 16777216 1:e4000008 33554432 [the TNT] 2.1.0: 02.00.00 10b7/9201 11 0:0000c001 128 1:e9000000 128 [ONBOARD 3COM] -------------------------- file vgainfo.txt after booting with "vid=0x10DE did=*" entered into VGADB on the boot diskette aux/vga: controller not in /lib/vgadb 0xC0000 55 AA 54 EB 4B 37 34 30 30 E9 4C 19 77 CC 56 49 U.T.K7400.L.w.VI 0xC0010 44 45 4F 20 0D 00 00 00 BC 02 00 00 00 00 49 42 DEO ..........IB 0xC0020 4D 20 56 47 41 20 43 6F 6D 70 61 74 69 62 6C 65 M VGA Compatible 0xC0030 01 00 00 00 90 08 90 A5 30 33 2F 32 30 2F 30 30 ........03/20/00 0xC0040 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 0xC0050 E9 5B 0A 00 00 00 00 00 E9 5D 1B E9 65 1B 50 4D .[.......]..e.PM 0xC0060 49 44 58 00 5B 00 00 00 00 A0 00 B0 00 B8 00 C0 IDX.[........... 0xC0070 00 5B FF 7F 4E 56 00 05 06 D3 A4 E0 02 20 05 02 .[..NV....... .. 0xC0080 00 00 00 00 4E 01 57 02 6D 01 B8 04 00 00 00 00 ....N.W.m....... 0xC0090 BD 00 50 00 60 13 71 28 0B 97 65 97 EF 99 A4 99 ..P.`.q(..e..... 0xC00A0 B8 99 30 03 53 03 D4 02 00 01 01 00 3F 3E 37 36 ..0.S.......?>76 0xC00B0 00 76 97 76 98 00 E8 03 00 00 F4 01 00 4E 56 49 .v.v.........NVI 0xC00C0 44 49 41 20 54 4E 54 32 20 4D 6F 64 65 6C 20 36 DIA TNT2 Model 6 0xC00D0 34 20 56 47 41 20 42 49 4F 53 0D 0A 00 00 00 00 4 VGA BIOS...... 0xC00E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 0xC00F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ main->snarf vga->snarf vga->dump vga misc 67 vga feature 00 vga sequencer 03 00 03 00 02 vga crt 5F 4F 50 82 54 80 BF 1F - 00 4F 0E 0F 00 00 07 80 9C 8E 8F 28 1F 96 B9 A3 - FF vga graphics 00 00 00 00 00 10 0E 00 - FF vga attribute 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 - 38 39 3A 3B 3C 3D 3E 3F 0C 00 0F 08 00 vga virtual 0 0 vga panning off vga apz 0 vga linear 0 vmf 25175000 vmdf 0 vf1 0 vbw 0 vga->init dbdumpmode type=vga, size=640x480x1 frequency=25175000 x=640 (0x280), y=480 (0x1E0), z=1 (0x1) ht=800 (0x320), shb=664 (0x298), ehb=760 (0x2F8) shs=664 (0x298), ehs=760 (0x2F8) vt=525 (0x20D), vrs=491 (0x1EB), vre=493 (0x1ED) hsync=0, vsync=0, interlace=0 vga->dump vga flag Fdump|Finit|Fsnarf vga misc E3 vga feature 00 vga sequencer 03 01 0F 00 06 vga crt 5F 4F 52 9F 53 1F20B 3E - 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 1EB 2D1DF 28 001EB1EC C3 -7FF vga graphics 00 00 00 00 00 00 05 0F - FF vga attribute 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 - 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F 01 FF 0F 00 00 vga virtual 640 480 vga panning off vga apz 0 vga linear 0 main->exits -------------------------- excerpt from original VGADB ctlr vid=0x10DE did=0x0020 # Riva TNT vid=0x10DE did=0x0028 # Riva TNT2 vid=0x10DE did=0x0029 # Riva TNT2 Ultra vid=0x10DE did=0x002C # Riva TNT2 Vanta vid=0x10DE did=0x002D # Riva TNT2 M64 vid=0x10DE did=0x00A0 # Riva TNT2 Integrated vid=0x10DE did=0x0100 # GeForce 256 vid=0x10DE did=0x0101 # GeForce DDR vid=0x10DE did=0x0103 # Quadro vid=0x10DE did=0x0110 # GeForce2 MMX vid=0x10DE did=0x0111 # GeForce2 MMX DDR vid=0x10DE did=0x0112 # GeForce2 Go vid=0x10DE did=0x0113 # Quadro 2 MXR vid=0x10DE did=0x0150 # GeForce2 GTS vid=0x10DE did=0x0151 # GeForce2 GTS (rev 1) vid=0x10DE did=0x0152 # GeForce2 Ultra vid=0x10DE did=0x0153 # Quadro 2 Pro vid=0x10DE did=0x0200 # GeForce3 link=vga ctlr=nvidia linear=1 hwgc=nvidiahwgc > output from the new aux/vga -p (you should be able to do this on > an old system) with the vgadb entry set to > ctlr > vid=0x10DE did=* # NVidia cards all talk the same > link=vga > ctlr=nvidia linear=1 > hwgc=nvidiahwgc > would be helpful. > thanks. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 24 06:17:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 24 06:17:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20330 invoked by uid 1020); 24 Jul 2003 06:17:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20326 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 06:17:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 06:17:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E30ED19BA6; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:17:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7B1C819A97; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:17:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B384919A97; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:16:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cerberus.uk.clara.net (cerberus.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.103]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1C419199FD for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:16:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from martin.althoff.claranet.co.uk ([213.253.17.40] helo=127.0.0.1) by cerberus.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #3) id 19fQy1-0006Fl-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 22:16:10 +0100 From: Martin Althoff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <12012509468.20030723221609@tiscali.co.uk> To: Martin Althoff <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re[3]: [9fans] nvidia problems In-Reply-To: <16712074125.20030723220853@tiscali.co.uk> References: <0c673154619ee7d236b650797c840846@plan9.bell-labs.com> <16712074125.20030723220853@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: "martin.althoff" List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 22:16:09 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Oops, big typo... > pcirouting: Southbridge 10DE/01E0 not found > and then later ignoring that. > The same DID as the TNT2... should read: same _assumed_ DID (01E0). The matching (first) VID (10DE) seems to trip hunt for a vga card. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 24 06:24:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 24 06:24:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20460 invoked by uid 1020); 24 Jul 2003 06:24:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20456 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 06:24:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 06:24:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B5E7A19BAC; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:24:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0200D19B11; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:24:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B9D0619A6A; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:23:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3A8CA19A97 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:23:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: Re[2]: [9fans] nvidia problems In-Reply-To: <16712074125.20030723220853@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:23:06 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) if i send you a bundle of aux/vga source, can you compile it and try the test again? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 24 06:26:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 24 06:26:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20493 invoked by uid 1020); 24 Jul 2003 06:26:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20489 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 06:26:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 06:26:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 071F619A97; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:26:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D8FD419B11; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:26:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8DB0019ACC; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:25:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CB4AD19A97 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:25:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: Re[2]: [9fans] nvidia problems In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-leztjewrlkcqolysbznrwoqnef" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:25:14 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-leztjewrlkcqolysbznrwoqnef Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit oops, that was meant as a private mail. ignore it. --upas-leztjewrlkcqolysbznrwoqnef Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Wed Jul 23 17:24:33 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Wed Jul 23 17:24:31 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2C9A819BA9; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:24:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 952CE19A6A; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:24:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B9D0619A6A; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:23:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3A8CA19A97 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:23:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: Re[2]: [9fans] nvidia problems In-Reply-To: <16712074125.20030723220853@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:23:06 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) if i send you a bundle of aux/vga source, can you compile it and try the test again? --upas-leztjewrlkcqolysbznrwoqnef-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 24 08:35:54 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 24 08:35:54 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 22921 invoked by uid 1020); 24 Jul 2003 08:35:43 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 22917 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 08:35:42 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 08:35:42 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 469D719A0B; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:35:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BE91A19BBA; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:35:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id AC8B819BAD; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:34:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Princeton.EDU (postoffice01.Princeton.EDU [128.112.129.75]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EE87219BAF for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:34:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpserver2.Princeton.EDU (smtpserver2.Princeton.EDU [128.112.129.148]) by Princeton.EDU (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6NNYcGF007393 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:34:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Princeton.EDU (lane.Princeton.EDU [128.112.52.125]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtpserver2.Princeton.EDU (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6NNYbNX028815 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:34:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3F1F1B8D.1040300@Princeton.EDU> From: Martin Harriss User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] nvidia problems References: <0c673154619ee7d236b650797c840846@plan9.bell-labs.com> <16712074125.20030723220853@tiscali.co.uk> <12012509468.20030723221609@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:34:37 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Seen this before with an S3 video card. The system that it was installed in also had an S3 sound card (unsupported by plan 9, but in the machine for use by Windows.) Plan 9 confused the sound card with an S3 video card. I posted a fix and the good folks at the Labs put it in the distribution. If you look in the S3 driver code it should be obvious what to do. Martin Martin Althoff wrote: > Oops, big typo... > > >>pcirouting: Southbridge 10DE/01E0 not found >>and then later ignoring that. >>The same DID as the TNT2... > > should read: > same _assumed_ DID (01E0). > The matching (first) VID (10DE) seems to trip hunt for a vga card. > > From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 24 08:54:43 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 24 08:54:43 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 23352 invoked by uid 1020); 24 Jul 2003 08:54:42 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 23348 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 08:54:41 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 08:54:41 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5F0EF19BBE; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:54:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F04EE19BC3; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:54:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 716F319BB3; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:54:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 895E919A10 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:53:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5ca3fbd9eb4e3acfb26fe90f76505b61@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] nvidia problems In-Reply-To: <3F1F1B8D.1040300@Princeton.EDU> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-vmoxaiicerhtrxpykdifpmckii" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:53:56 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-vmoxaiicerhtrxpykdifpmckii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit yes, that was my conclusion too and i've sent him a patched aux/vga to try. in the pci listing he gave, all but the 3com ethernet have an nvidia vid. i didn't know nvidia made anything other than graphics chips. --upas-vmoxaiicerhtrxpykdifpmckii Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Wed Jul 23 19:35:42 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Wed Jul 23 19:35:39 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 367FF19BB8; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:35:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C9C8A19BAF; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:35:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id AC8B819BAD; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:34:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Princeton.EDU (postoffice01.Princeton.EDU [128.112.129.75]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EE87219BAF for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:34:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpserver2.Princeton.EDU (smtpserver2.Princeton.EDU [128.112.129.148]) by Princeton.EDU (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6NNYcGF007393 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:34:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Princeton.EDU (lane.Princeton.EDU [128.112.52.125]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtpserver2.Princeton.EDU (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6NNYbNX028815 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:34:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3F1F1B8D.1040300@Princeton.EDU> From: Martin Harriss User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] nvidia problems References: <0c673154619ee7d236b650797c840846@plan9.bell-labs.com> <16712074125.20030723220853@tiscali.co.uk> <12012509468.20030723221609@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:34:37 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Seen this before with an S3 video card. The system that it was installed in also had an S3 sound card (unsupported by plan 9, but in the machine for use by Windows.) Plan 9 confused the sound card with an S3 video card. I posted a fix and the good folks at the Labs put it in the distribution. If you look in the S3 driver code it should be obvious what to do. Martin Martin Althoff wrote: > Oops, big typo... > > >>pcirouting: Southbridge 10DE/01E0 not found >>and then later ignoring that. >>The same DID as the TNT2... > > should read: > same _assumed_ DID (01E0). > The matching (first) VID (10DE) seems to trip hunt for a vga card. > > --upas-vmoxaiicerhtrxpykdifpmckii-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 24 11:51:38 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 24 11:51:38 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 31394 invoked by uid 1020); 24 Jul 2003 11:51:37 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 31389 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 11:51:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 11:51:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8999719BD4; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 22:51:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5D8A819BCC; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 22:51:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 50B7319BCC; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 22:50:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AD23719BAF for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 22:50:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Wed Jul 23 22:49:59 EDT 2003 Received: from 209.23.14.80 ([209.23.14.80]) by plan9; Wed Jul 23 22:49:56 EDT 2003 Message-ID: <25bebf9dd271c0fbb6fee62a4df9b9e0@plan9.bell-labs.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] zoinkmail From: "Russ Cox" In-Reply-To: <3F1CCA42.7080801@ameritech.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 22:46:52 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I used gcc et al. to compile gnupg, and yes I felt icky about it. I do have most of a pgp written for native Plan 9, but I needed something last month. Russ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 24 12:12:46 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 24 12:12:46 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 32391 invoked by uid 1020); 24 Jul 2003 12:12:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 32387 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 12:12:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 12:12:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C654519BCB; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 23:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1970B19BD5; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 23:12:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5574B19BD6; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 23:11:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.foobarbaz.net (unknown [64.71.129.86]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9255119BCB for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 23:11:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.foobarbaz.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E3F7866B2B; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 20:11:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Nielsen To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Fossil Questions Message-ID: <20030724031117.GG63873@cassie.foobarbaz.net> References: <20030723192342.GF63873@cassie.foobarbaz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030723192342.GF63873@cassie.foobarbaz.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: cnielsen@pobox.com List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 20:11:17 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) And of course, a little reading has answered my question. This is what epoch is for. On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 12:23:42PM -0700, Christopher Nielsen wrote: > Is it just me or does fossil not clear the write buffer > after 'snap -a' is performed? > > I am in the process of archiving my music collection to > fossil+venti, executing 'snap -a' when the write buffer > gets close to full. I was expecting to be able to just > start writing to the buffer once the archival snapshot > finished. Instead, it seems that I have to 'flfmt -v ...' > the write buffer and restart fossil. This is a bit > cumbersome when you have a fileserver that boots from > fossil+venti. Also, from what I have experinced so far, > fossil gets very cranky and does not recover gracefully > when the write buffer is filled. > > I know people are on vacation and such, and I am more than > happy to dive into the code to address this. Before I do, > I want to make sure the behavior I am seeing is accurate > and the behavior I expect is desired. > > That said, I must say the system is quite robust from a > data safety standpoint. I've been through repeated crashes > and have not lost any data that was archived to venti. > Very nice work guys. -- Christopher Nielsen "They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 24 17:59:44 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 24 17:59:44 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 19400 invoked by uid 1020); 24 Jul 2003 17:59:43 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 19396 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 17:59:42 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 17:59:42 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EF91F19BD2; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 04:59:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A677F19BAD; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 04:59:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BDFCF19BC5; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 04:58:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EF89919BBD for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 04:58:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19fbhh-000153-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:44:01 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Vincenzo Volpe Message-ID: Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [9fans] Installation fail Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 08:42:47 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I will wait... thanks From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 24 17:59:57 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 24 17:59:57 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 19411 invoked by uid 1020); 24 Jul 2003 17:59:56 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 19407 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 17:59:55 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 17:59:55 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6515D19BE3; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 04:59:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 30EC119BAD; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 04:59:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DF87F19BBD; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 04:58:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0EBD919B92 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 04:58:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19fbhh-00014x-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:44:01 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Ram'on Garc'ia Fern'andez Message-ID: Organization: U.C.M Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <008601c35132$afe019e0$8229ff87@bl.belllabs.com>, <0c673154619ee7d236b650797c840846@plan9.bell-labs.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] nvidia problems Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 08:42:26 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Sorry, butmy Plan 9 system is not connected to the Internet. It would be good if there were means for accessing sources.plan9.bell-labs.com other than the Plan9 protocol. For example, being able to browse individual source files through a web server would be great. I would have to download the sources snapshot and burn a CD. But now I don't have time for it. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 24 18:04:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 24 18:04:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 19658 invoked by uid 1020); 24 Jul 2003 18:04:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 19654 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 18:04:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 18:04:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C386A19BE1; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 05:04:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C2A4E19BC5; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 05:04:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3667C19BCA; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 05:03:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz (clusterb.asuch.cas.cz [147.231.136.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 42E0B19BAD for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 05:03:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from picture ([147.231.139.42]) by XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:03:11 +0200 Message-ID: <001901c351c2$68c21140$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> From: "pac" To: "9fans" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jul 2003 09:03:11.0911 (UTC) FILETIME=[68BB3370:01C351C2] Subject: [9fans] walk Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:03:11 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) hi! walk does not work as expected, why? term% grep -n aint *.idx 14: Maintained-At: term% walk ./ grep -n aint *.idx grep: can't open AAAAA.idx: 'AAAAA.idx' directory entry not found grep: can't open AAAAA.idx: 'AAAAA.idx' directory entry not found grep: can't open AAAAA.idx: 'AAAAA.idx' directory entry not found term% grep: can't open AAAAA.idx: 'AAAAA.idx' directory entry not found etc..... i) it does not report the match, and ii) replaces *.idx by the name of the first found idx file could someone put their hands on it? or tell me where i'm wrong? thanks, ++pac. --- Odchozí zpráva neobsahuje viry. Zkontrolováno antivirovým systémem AVG (http://www.grisoft.cz). Verze: 6.0.502 / Virová báze: 300 - datum vydání: 18.7.2003 From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 24 18:20:46 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 24 18:20:46 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20281 invoked by uid 1020); 24 Jul 2003 18:20:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20277 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 18:20:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 18:20:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6C70C19BCA; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 05:20:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3356819BC5; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 05:20:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4088119BDF; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 05:19:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from juice.thebigchoice.com (pc1-nott2-3-cust18.nott.cable.ntl.com [80.4.204.18]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 3F1B919BAD for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 05:19:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5308 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 09:19:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO proweb.co.uk) (192.168.1.100) by juice.thebigchoice.com with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 09:19:54 -0000 Message-ID: <3F1FA4B9.6090209@proweb.co.uk> From: matt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] text utility References: <200307231842.h6NIgk723821@augusta.math.psu.edu> In-Reply-To: <200307231842.h6NIgk723821@augusta.math.psu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:19:53 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Dan Cross wrote: >Why not use the definition of the tac utility that used to be >distributed with BSD Unix? I think it printed out lines in reverse >order (similar to tail -r). Something to print out all the bytes in a >file in reverse order might be useful, though. Currently, I can't >think why. > > - Dan C. > to see what interesting UTF-8 comes out of course From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 24 18:22:27 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 24 18:22:27 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20354 invoked by uid 1020); 24 Jul 2003 18:22:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20350 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 18:22:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 18:22:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 59ED519BE5; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 05:22:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AB65719BDE; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 05:22:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7F35919BE2; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 05:21:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-08.noos.net [212.198.2.77]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A8E2E19988 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 05:21:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16294049 invoked by uid 0); 24 Jul 2003 09:21:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.77 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 24 Jul 2003 09:21:22 -0000 Message-ID: <012701c351c4$eddf9a80$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <001901c351c2$68c21140$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> Subject: Re: [9fans] walk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:21:13 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > term% walk ./ grep -n aint *.idx the *.idx get expanded immediately and that file doesn't exist in the directory walk has chdir'd to, which it looks like it's doing. i can even find any doc for walk, nor the source. but it looks like: walk dir command [ args ... ] and it uses chdir. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 24 18:50:41 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 24 18:50:41 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21175 invoked by uid 1020); 24 Jul 2003 18:50:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21171 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 18:50:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 18:50:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8ACB119BEC; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 05:50:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0D57319BEA; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 05:50:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4525019BEA; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 05:49:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from juice.thebigchoice.com (pc1-nott2-3-cust18.nott.cable.ntl.com [80.4.204.18]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 3D77719BE7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 05:49:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 10126 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 09:49:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO proweb.co.uk) (192.168.1.100) by juice.thebigchoice.com with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 09:49:07 -0000 Message-ID: <3F1FAB93.9040100@proweb.co.uk> From: matt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] "Hard Pressed" Lucent News Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:49:07 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) http://theregister.co.uk/content/5/31914.html At last some good news for Lucent, the hard-pressed networking equipment vendor. Yesterday it won a $1bn contract to supply 3G infrastructure kit to Sprint, the US mobile network. http://www.lucent.com/press/0703/030723.coa.html * - Posts revenues of $1.96 billion for the quarter, a decline of 18 percent from the second fiscal quarter - Records loss per share of 7 cents, continuing sequential improvement on the bottom line - Reports $4.9 billion balance in cash and short-term investments * The company's net loss for the quarter was $254 million or 7 cents per share^1 . These results compare with a loss of $351 million or 14 cents per share in the second quarter of fiscal 2003 and a net loss of $8.03 billion or $2.35 per share in the year-ago quarter. * * From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 24 22:14:35 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 24 22:14:35 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27223 invoked by uid 1020); 24 Jul 2003 22:14:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27219 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 22:14:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 22:14:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7907A19BB8; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:14:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1E19A19BC7; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:14:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A3EF319BC7; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:13:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from larch (unknown [195.173.15.12]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CA9BD19BAB for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:13:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2253a24e2a11bf185122eca8a2f51531@yourdomain.dom> From: steve.simon@snellwilcox.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] iostats ? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 14:13:45 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi, Is iostats broken or am I missing somthing? iostats ls /bin /bin/* > /dev/null reports zero average time for all 9p operations, and read 85629 bytes, 8.362207e+07 Kb/sec write 6401 bytes, 6250977 Kb/sec protocol 93942 bytes, 9.174023e+07 Kb/sec and some impressive throughput rates... I am running on a 233Mhz P1 so perhaps my clock tick rate is confused? -Steve From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 24 23:08:41 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 24 23:08:41 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 28645 invoked by uid 1020); 24 Jul 2003 23:08:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 28641 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 23:08:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 23:08:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E306E19BF0; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:08:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3D39919BE9; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:08:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 43BA919BE2; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:07:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-04.noos.net [212.198.2.73]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6F0A419BC7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:07:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 35218391 invoked by uid 0); 24 Jul 2003 14:07:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.73 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 24 Jul 2003 14:07:42 -0000 Message-ID: <003001c351ec$ee22dde0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: [9fans] drawterm paris / new york Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 16:07:34 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) dan [cross] has given me account on his net there. the windows drawterm perfomance is pretty impressive, given the distance and that my adsl is 512/128. thanks dan From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 24 23:23:44 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 24 23:23:44 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 29187 invoked by uid 1020); 24 Jul 2003 23:23:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 29183 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2003 23:23:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 24 Jul 2003 23:23:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0F0FE19BF7; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:23:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9826D19BE8; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:23:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id AB62919B41; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:22:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rapido.vitanuova.com (unknown [62.254.170.97]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 40E9B19A07 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:22:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] iostats ? From: rog@vitanuova.com In-Reply-To: <2253a24e2a11bf185122eca8a2f51531@yourdomain.dom> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:25:14 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > iostats ls /bin /bin/* > /dev/null > reports zero average time for all 9p operations, and [...] > and some impressive throughput rates... it's been broken, quite recently it seems. in /sys/src/cmd/iostats/statsrv.c:/^update change < ulong t2; < < t2 = msec(); < t -= t2; to > t = msec() - t; then the numbers become non-zero, at least. the e+07 numbers are due to the dodgy "avoid zero devide" hack in iostats.c: brpsec = (float)stats->totread / (((float)rpc->time/1000.0)+.000001); bwpsec = (float)stats->totwrite / (((float)rpc->time/1000.0)+.000001); bppsec = (float)stats->nproto / ((ttime/1000.0)+.000001); maybe it'd be less misleading just to do: setfcr(getfcr() & ~FPZDIV); before the calculations, and remove the .000001 fudge factor: then if there were no ops the throughput comes out as +Inf. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 00:10:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 00:10:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 30453 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 00:10:37 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 30449 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 00:10:37 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 00:10:37 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 06E8619BE8; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:10:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EF04519BE4; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:10:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C385E19BE8; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:09:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from larch (unknown [195.173.15.12]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 944DE19A6A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:09:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: steve.simon@snellwilcox.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] iostats ? In-Reply-To: <398344982@snellwilcox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-vkutjfmhflbsejzrsihliufabv" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 16:09:00 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-vkutjfmhflbsejzrsihliufabv Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for that, All working as expected now. -Steve --upas-vkutjfmhflbsejzrsihliufabv Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:25:14 +0100 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu bcc: "Steve Simon" From: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Sender: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Importance: normal Priority: normal Subject: Re: [9fans] iostats ? Message-Id: <398344982@snellwilcox.com> X-MIME-Engine: v0.90 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Id: <398344982-1@snellwilcox.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > iostats ls /bin /bin/* > /dev/null = > reports zero average time for all 9p operations, and [...] > and some impressive throughput rates... it's been broken, quite recently it seems. in /sys/src/cmd/iostats/statsrv.c:/^update change = < ulong t2; < < t2 =3D msec(); < t -=3D t2; to > t =3D msec() - t; then the numbers become non-zero, at least. the e+07 numbers are due to the dodgy "avoid zero devide" hack in iostats.c: brpsec =3D (float)stats->totread / (((float)rpc->time/1000.0)+.000001); bwpsec =3D (float)stats->totwrite / (((float)rpc->time/1000.0)+.000001); bppsec =3D (float)stats->nproto / ((ttime/1000.0)+.000001); maybe it'd be less misleading just to do: setfcr(getfcr() & ~FPZDIV); before the calculations, and remove the .000001 fudge factor: then if there were no ops the throughput comes out as +Inf. --upas-vkutjfmhflbsejzrsihliufabv-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 01:46:35 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 01:46:35 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 32280 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 01:46:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 32276 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 01:46:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 01:46:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 219C519B44; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 12:46:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 67B4719AE5; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 12:46:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2272019AD7; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 12:45:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8EEE319A6A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 12:45:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5cb57b4bf78998fbd613be6517e5748a@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] etherelnk3.c Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 12:45:54 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I've put a new version of /sys/src/9/pc/etherelnk3.c on sources. It fixes the problem with the Mini-PCI 3Com adapter found on some Thinkpads. I'd appreciate anyone who has any other 3Com adapter testing the new one to verify I haven't broken it for other cards. Thanks to Adrian Tritschler for testing on the T21. Thanks. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 05:26:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 05:26:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 3414 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 05:26:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 3410 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 05:26:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 05:26:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 64A4F19B8A; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 16:26:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2336419AAF; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 16:26:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C54DF19ACA; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 16:25:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alchar.org (alchar.org [66.92.236.138]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 0544219A93 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 16:25:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13030 invoked by uid 100); 24 Jul 2003 20:25:52 -0000 From: Kris Van Hees To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: <20030724162552.L14803@alchar.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Subject: [9fans] Scalability Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 16:25:52 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Has anyone done any work on researching the scalability of Plan9? What I am trying to look into right now is to get a handle on how well the distinct services scale (since the entire distributed architecture scales well by its very design). E.g. if you set up a fileserver, either the older style, or using fossil+venti, how many users/storage can you realistically support before possibly needing an additional fileserver to offset the load. From Sean Quinlan's Venti paper, the Bell Labs has been supporting 50-100 active accounts at roughly any given time. Is there any data or theory on how things would be affected if e.g. you'd want to support 1000 or even 10000 users on a Plan9 infrastructure? Kris -- Never underestimate a Mage with: - the Intelligence to cast Magic Missile, - the Constitution to survive the first hit, and - the Dexterity to run fast enough to avoid being hit a second time. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 06:45:40 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 06:45:40 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 5214 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 06:45:38 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 5210 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 06:45:38 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 06:45:38 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2AFB219B09; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 17:45:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C839D19A81; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 17:45:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 73DA019AB6; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 17:44:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailrelay1.lanl.gov (mailrelay1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.101]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 73F4A19B09 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 17:44:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay1.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6OLinc7028252 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:44:49 -0600 Received: from maxroach.lanl.gov (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6OLinAO016080 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:44:49 -0600 From: ron minnich To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Scalability In-Reply-To: <20030724162552.L14803@alchar.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.35 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:44:48 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Greg Watson has tested u9fs here with 1023 clients on the Pink cluster. This is u9fs with a few mods for scalability, and the v9fs VFS for linux. The 9p2000 protocol is really excellent and should, it seems, scale far better than others. ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 15:37:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 15:37:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27608 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 15:37:38 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27604 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 15:37:37 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 15:37:37 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5EA3F19BC6; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 02:37:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E4CBB19BC2; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 02:37:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E6B8119BC0; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 02:36:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz (clusterb.asuch.cas.cz [147.231.136.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0C6E519B65 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 02:36:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from picture ([147.231.139.42]) by XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 25 Jul 2003 08:36:14 +0200 Message-ID: <000501c35277$0bd23fe0$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> From: "pac" To: "9fans" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jul 2003 06:36:15.0014 (UTC) FILETIME=[0BDD3C60:01C35277] Subject: [9fans] walk Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 08:36:14 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) walk script has been posted once, I grabbed it from the web and it is available here: ftp://ftp.gli.cas.cz/gli/cejchan/neXt/rc/walk PS: Dan Cross also has walk.c and sor.c (mentioned on the list earlier) -- Dan, please, could you share them? ++pac. --- Odchozí zpráva neobsahuje viry. Zkontrolováno antivirovým systémem AVG (http://www.grisoft.cz). Verze: 6.0.502 / Virová báze: 300 - datum vydání: 18.7.2003 From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 17:03:58 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 17:03:58 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 31793 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 17:03:57 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 31789 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 17:03:57 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 17:03:57 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9A6D119BDB; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:03:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8F0D419BC8; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:03:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9EEC019B3B; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:01:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5558319AE9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:01:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <9841db59954fbeb3b28cd2caa5dcdbb4@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] logout from cpu server Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 17:02:07 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I remember that Charles made us possible to logout from cou server. I have now multiple cpu servers, and want to logout from those. Does nayone have such thing for this release? Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 17:17:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 17:17:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 32423 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 17:17:38 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 32419 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 17:17:37 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 17:17:37 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6E76319BD5; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:17:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EE29B19BC7; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:17:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A35F719B50; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:16:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from doppio.vitanuova.com (unknown [62.254.170.97]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 71F5919B27 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:15:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: C H Forsyth To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] logout from cpu server In-Reply-To: <9841db59954fbeb3b28cd2caa5dcdbb4@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-apottieaaoaubuodxwjcmxseqq" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:19:34 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-apottieaaoaubuodxwjcmxseqq Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i don't remember that at all. what did it/i do? --upas-apottieaaoaubuodxwjcmxseqq Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu> Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for forsyth@vitanuova.com id 1059120289:10:26540:9; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 08:04:49 GMT Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1122928; 25 Jul 2003 8:04 GMT Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E135D19BD7; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:03:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5A3AB19B3B; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:03:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9EEC019B3B; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:01:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5558319AE9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:01:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <9841db59954fbeb3b28cd2caa5dcdbb4@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] logout from cpu server Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 17:02:07 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I remember that Charles made us possible to logout from cou server. I have now multiple cpu servers, and want to logout from those. Does nayone have such thing for this release? Kenji --upas-apottieaaoaubuodxwjcmxseqq-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 17:20:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 17:20:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 32607 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 17:20:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 32603 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 17:20:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 17:20:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A83EF19BEF; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:20:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AD08619BC7; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:20:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 85F4619BC7; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:19:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 570C319B27 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:19:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <737224cc03679161c17186da82a8e768@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] logout from cpu server From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 17:20:08 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > i don't remember that at all. what did it/i do? make change to console of cpu server to logout from it. It was for Release 3 Plan 9 I remember. Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 17:26:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 17:26:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 450 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 17:26:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 444 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 17:26:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 17:26:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 00E2D19BFA; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:26:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C4A9919BEB; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:26:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C66BA19BE7; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:25:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lavoro.home.cs.york.ac.uk (public1-york1-5-cust44.leed.broadband.ntl.com [80.0.45.44]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 82E2619BD9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:25:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3c491a1708b8c275b14722832bd006c9@caldo.demon.co.uk> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] logout from cpu server From: Charles Forsyth In-Reply-To: <737224cc03679161c17186da82a8e768@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-qnexrozdwlskonvioyokbjjlcb" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:24:21 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-qnexrozdwlskonvioyokbjjlcb Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i think there was some code that was simply commented out or somehow conditional, probably in /sys/src/9/boot, that if enabled would force a prompt for the password. the code seems to have gone completely now because getpasswd is still there but completely unused. --upas-qnexrozdwlskonvioyokbjjlcb Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu> Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for forsyth@caldo.demon.co.uk id 19fxoS-0000n5-DB; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 08:20:28 +0000 Received: from [130.203.4.6] (helo=mail.cse.psu.edu) by punt-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 19fxoS-0000n5-DB for forsyth@caldo.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 08:20:28 +0000 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A83EF19BEF; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:20:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AD08619BC7; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:20:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 85F4619BC7; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:19:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 570C319B27 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:19:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <737224cc03679161c17186da82a8e768@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] logout from cpu server From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 17:20:08 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > i don't remember that at all. what did it/i do? make change to console of cpu server to logout from it. It was for Release 3 Plan 9 I remember. Kenji --upas-qnexrozdwlskonvioyokbjjlcb-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 17:27:27 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 17:27:27 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 482 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 17:27:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 477 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 17:27:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 17:27:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 92C4C19BFC; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:27:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2570C19BD9; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:27:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BF9FF19BFB; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:26:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nautilus.escet.urjc.es (nautilus.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.207]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6A00F19BF6 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:26:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5d49032cdc5f081b7cd41357062e9ef5@plan9.escet.urjc.es> From: Fco.J.Ballesteros To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] logout from cpu server In-Reply-To: <9841db59954fbeb3b28cd2caa5dcdbb4@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-pshriwnlhmmfxkffnluqirossh" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:26:28 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-pshriwnlhmmfxkffnluqirossh Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit what do you mean by logout? To stop the processes you have on them? Or to avoid the console session for your local bootes user? If you mean last, you can run a cat /dev/kprint on the console, since del is handled by rio it wont be interrupted. I'm just confussed. âş --upas-pshriwnlhmmfxkffnluqirossh Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by aquamar; Fri Jul 25 10:03:56 MDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C05A619BD3; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:03:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8F0D419BC8; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:03:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9EEC019B3B; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:01:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5558319AE9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:01:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <9841db59954fbeb3b28cd2caa5dcdbb4@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] logout from cpu server Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 17:02:07 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I remember that Charles made us possible to logout from cou server. I have now multiple cpu servers, and want to logout from those. Does nayone have such thing for this release? Kenji --upas-pshriwnlhmmfxkffnluqirossh-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 17:31:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 17:31:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 601 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 17:31:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 597 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 17:31:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 17:31:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1F24719BF6; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:31:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B292B19BC2; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:31:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D7BE219BF6; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:30:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A573D19BF1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:30:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] logout from cpu server From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: <5d49032cdc5f081b7cd41357062e9ef5@plan9.escet.urjc.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 17:30:54 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > what do you mean by logout? To stop the processes you have on them? > Or to avoid the console session for your local bootes user? Just disable someone who can be a host owner when I was not in the room. âş That is, let the machine to require password when someone wants to dispatche some commands on the cpu server's console. Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 17:43:48 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 17:43:48 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 1178 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 17:43:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 1174 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 17:43:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 17:43:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D4EB319BD9; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:43:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C472F19BFD; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:43:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D482819BFD; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:42:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2868719BD9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:42:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6P8V4np000807 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:31:06 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h6P8V2x6000806 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:31:02 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] logout from cpu server Message-ID: <20030725103100.N28024@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: <737224cc03679161c17186da82a8e768@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: <737224cc03679161c17186da82a8e768@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp>; from okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp on Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 05:20:08PM +0900 Organization: Proxima Research & Development Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:31:01 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 05:20:08PM +0900, okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp wrote: > > > i don't remember that at all. what did it/i do? > > make change to console of cpu server to logout from it. > It was for Release 3 Plan 9 I remember. > The pass() function that does the prompting is still in /sys/src/cmd/init.c, but the call seems to have vanished. I guess I best look in old sources for it... Here is what it used to look like: for(;;){ if(iscpu){ consctl = open("#c/consctl", OWRITE); key = open("#c/key", OREAD); if(consctl<0 || key<0 || write(consctl, "rawon", 5) != 5) print("init: can't check password; insecure\n"); else{ pass(key); write(consctl, "rawoff", 6); } close(consctl); close(key); } print("\ninit: starting /bin/rc\n"); fexec(rcexec); manual = 1; cmd = 0; sleep(1000); } And here is the new one: for(;;){ print("\ninit: starting /bin/rc\n"); fexec(rcexec); manual = 1; cmd = 0; sleep(1000); } I always regretted losing this bit. ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 17:47:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 17:47:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 1314 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 17:47:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 1310 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 17:47:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 17:47:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D932F19BEB; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:47:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C61E019A0D; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:47:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E3C5519C01; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:46:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from klastr1.icpf.cas.cz (klastr1.icpf.cas.cz [147.231.137.254]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D6AF019BFD for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:46:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from klastr1.icpf.cas.cz (klastr1.icpf.cas.cz [147.231.137.254]) by klastr1.icpf.cas.cz (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6P8qVH29725 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:52:31 +0200 From: sasa To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] random moving of cursor arrow Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:52:31 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) hi! i've got a odd problem: when i copy large amount of data from cd-rom to hard-disk (300 mb) and try to move the cursor arrow, then the cursor is randomly moving around the screen. so, i'm not able to work with mouse while copying from cd to harddrive. procesor is amd k6 300 mhz, graphic card is s3virge, 96 mb of ram. thanx for hints. sasa babic (babic@icpf.cas.cz) From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 17:55:38 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 17:55:38 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 1628 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 17:55:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 1624 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 17:55:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 17:55:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2ECE019BFE; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:55:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 10F1E19B0F; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:55:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7DF3819BFE; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:54:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C34BE19B0F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:54:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6P8h8np000838 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:43:10 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h6P8h5bt000837 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:43:05 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] random moving of cursor arrow Message-ID: <20030725104302.O28024@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: ; from sasa on Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 10:52:31AM +0200 Organization: Proxima Research & Development Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:43:03 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 10:52:31AM +0200, sasa wrote: > > > when i copy large amount of data from cd-rom to hard-disk (300 mb) > and try to move the cursor arrow, then the cursor is randomly > moving around the screen. The new serial port device driver seems a bit jangly (Dave, is this your doing?). > so, i'm not able to work with mouse while copying from cd to harddrive. > procesor is amd k6 300 mhz, graphic card is s3virge, 96 mb of ram. > echo i1 > /dev/eia0ctl usually solves that for me, but naturally it relies on the serial chip being advanced enough to include the FIFO buffer. I have wondered what it is that changed and make the serial driver less responsive, but I am not (yet) going to delve in there. ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 18:03:52 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 18:03:52 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 1838 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 18:03:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 1834 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 18:03:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 18:03:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5B88919C0B; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:03:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3130119BCD; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:03:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1CE6E19BDE; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:02:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-04.noos.net [212.198.2.73]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 402DF19B0F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:02:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 35866930 invoked by uid 0); 25 Jul 2003 09:02:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.73 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 25 Jul 2003 09:02:41 -0000 Message-ID: <00e401c3528b$7c33b0c0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] random moving of cursor arrow MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:02:33 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > when i copy large amount of data from cd-rom to hard-disk (300 mb) > and try to move the cursor arrow, then the cursor is randomly > moving around the screen. sounds like mouse 'events' are being dropped 'cos something is a bit too busy to handle all the i/o activity. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 18:09:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 18:09:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 2033 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 18:09:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 2023 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 18:09:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 18:09:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2DE8F19C08; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:09:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 67C2E19BC2; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:09:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CF1FC19BC2; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:08:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nautilus.escet.urjc.es (nautilus.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.207]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F0D7D19B15 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:08:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <07e062e5bb237e12823dad2438110d9a@plan9.escet.urjc.es> From: Fco.J.Ballesteros To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] random moving of cursor arrow In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:08:10 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) is it just the cursor, or the rest of system too? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 18:12:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 18:12:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 2210 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 18:12:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 2206 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 18:12:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 18:12:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 432CD19C0C; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1BFB719BC2; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:12:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2373119BCD; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:11:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 928D919B15 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:11:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] logout from cpu server From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: <20030725103100.N28024@cackle.proxima.alt.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 18:12:25 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Here is what it used to look like: > > for(;;){ > if(iscpu){ > consctl = open("#c/consctl", OWRITE); > key = open("#c/key", OREAD); > if(consctl<0 || key<0 || write(consctl, "rawon", 5) != 5) > print("init: can't check password; insecure\n"); > else{ > pass(key); > write(consctl, "rawoff", 6); > } > close(consctl); > close(key); > } > print("\ninit: starting /bin/rc\n"); > fexec(rcexec); > manual = 1; > cmd = 0; > sleep(1000); > } > > And here is the new one: > > for(;;){ > print("\ninit: starting /bin/rc\n"); > fexec(rcexec); > manual = 1; > cmd = 0; > sleep(1000); > } I tried this, and failed. âş The error messages are as follows: peridotite# Ctl-d init: rc exit status: rc 106: false init: can't check password; insecure init: starting /bin/rc peridotite# Hmm... Once again I'm seeing the cpu server's prompt!, even if I did not enter the right password! Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 18:13:27 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 18:13:27 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 2232 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 18:13:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 2228 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 18:13:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 18:13:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5558519C0E; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:13:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5DCE319C10; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:13:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 301AF19BCD; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:12:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from klastr1.icpf.cas.cz (klastr1.icpf.cas.cz [147.231.137.254]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 29ED519B15 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:12:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from klastr1.icpf.cas.cz (klastr1.icpf.cas.cz [147.231.137.254]) by klastr1.icpf.cas.cz (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6P9HvH29825 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:17:57 +0200 From: sasa To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] Re: random moving of cursor arrow Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:17:57 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) thank you all very much for help. i'll try 'echo i1 > /dev/eia0ctl'. alexandr "sasa" babic. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 18:14:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 18:14:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 2286 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 18:14:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 2282 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 18:14:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 18:14:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5F00919C0D; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:14:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E52AD19BC2; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:14:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8E36F19C14; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:13:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2F6D819B15 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:13:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6P91Jnp000892 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:01:31 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h6P91Fbr000891 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:01:15 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] random moving of cursor arrow Message-ID: <20030725110110.P28024@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: <00e401c3528b$7c33b0c0$b9844051@insultant.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: <00e401c3528b$7c33b0c0$b9844051@insultant.net>; from boyd, rounin on Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 11:02:33AM +0200 Organization: Proxima Research & Development Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:01:11 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 11:02:33AM +0200, boyd, rounin wrote: > > sounds like mouse 'events' are being dropped 'cos something is > a bit too busy to handle all the i/o activity. Hm, yes, I was a bit hasty at blaming the serial device driver. The cure is right, but something else may be responsible. I do note, though, that in my case buttons got pressed as well as mere random movement being triggered. This would point to corrupted input data from the serial port, largely. Whether PS/2 mice are affected would also help in diagnosing the problem. I know I had great difficulty during a recent installation because I wanted to open an additional window and the mouse was utterly unusable. I did catch it a few times, fortunately. ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 18:19:44 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 18:19:44 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 2451 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 18:19:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 2447 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 18:19:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 18:19:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D201A19B15; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:19:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E4D1E19BC2; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:19:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5B88C19C0A; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:18:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from klastr1.icpf.cas.cz (klastr1.icpf.cas.cz [147.231.137.254]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 534CC19C09 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:18:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from klastr1.icpf.cas.cz (klastr1.icpf.cas.cz [147.231.137.254]) by klastr1.icpf.cas.cz (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6P9O6H29829 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:24:06 +0200 From: sasa To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] Re: random moving of cursor arrow Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:24:06 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) second description: when i touch the mouse, the cursor starts to randomly fly around the screen and without touching buttons sometimes the new window appears. sasa. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 18:20:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 18:20:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 2478 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 18:20:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 2474 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 18:20:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 18:20:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CFC8C19C1F; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:20:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 10A6719C0A; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:20:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0667219BC2; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:19:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from klastr1.icpf.cas.cz (klastr1.icpf.cas.cz [147.231.137.254]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0042319C0A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:19:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from klastr1.icpf.cas.cz (klastr1.icpf.cas.cz [147.231.137.254]) by klastr1.icpf.cas.cz (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6P9PWH29833 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:25:32 +0200 From: sasa To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] Re: random moving of cursor arrow Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:25:32 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) sorry not for telling the mouse type. it's serial mouse in port 0. sasa. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 18:28:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 18:28:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 2895 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 18:28:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 2891 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 18:28:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 18:28:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2D4BC19C0A; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:28:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8E72F19BC8; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:28:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3EE8A19C0A; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:27:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-04.noos.net [212.198.2.73]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 63F8B19BC2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:27:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 35659187 invoked by uid 0); 25 Jul 2003 09:27:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.73 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 25 Jul 2003 09:27:38 -0000 Message-ID: <012c01c3528e$f861d2a0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: random moving of cursor arrow MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:27:29 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > sorry not for telling the mouse type. > it's serial mouse in port 0. that woulda helped a lot. i'd say the serial port is dropping chars, which could be a hardware or a driver problem. the only thing i know about serial ports is that i don't want to know anything about them -- ghastly, just ghastly ... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 18:51:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 18:51:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 3709 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 18:51:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 3705 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 18:51:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 18:51:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id ED33219C05; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:51:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C112619BD3; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:51:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EA86219BD3; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:50:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 52E5C19B1E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:50:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6P9cenp001006 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:38:42 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h6P9cc4B001004 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:38:38 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] logout from cpu server Message-ID: <20030725113833.R28024@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: <20030725103100.N28024@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: ; from okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp on Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 06:12:25PM +0900 Organization: Proxima Research & Development Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:38:36 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 06:12:25PM +0900, okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp wrote: > > peridotite# Ctl-d > init: rc exit status: rc 106: false > init: can't check password; insecure > That must be because: if(consctl<0 || key<0 || write(consctl, "rawon", 5) != 5) print("init: can't check password; insecure\n"); which could be due to a number of causes. Maybe we can check which of consctl = open("#c/consctl", OWRITE); key = open("#c/key", OREAD); write(consctl, "rawon", 5); is most likely to have failed. Hm, /dev/key (#c/key) doesn't seem to exist anymore. Any suggestions from Bell Labs? ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 19:09:45 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 19:09:45 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 4302 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 19:09:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 4297 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 19:09:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 19:09:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B13DD19C25; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 06:09:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4A66E19C1E; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 06:09:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EF0DA19C17; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 06:08:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz (clusterb.asuch.cas.cz [147.231.136.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1176219A98 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 06:08:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from picture ([147.231.139.42]) by XMAIL.asuch.cas.cz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 25 Jul 2003 12:08:09 +0200 Message-ID: <000501c35294$a679e670$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> From: "pac" To: "9fans" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jul 2003 10:08:09.0795 (UTC) FILETIME=[A676D930:01C35294] Subject: [9fans] tac --> rev Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 12:08:09 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) my tac has been renamed to rev, as it does essentially the same as rev on BSD (its on the neXt archive) it reverts char order on line, knows nothing about runes... thanks, ++pac. --- Odchozí zpráva neobsahuje viry. Zkontrolováno antivirovým systémem AVG (http://www.grisoft.cz). Verze: 6.0.504 / Virová báze: 302 - datum vydání: 24.7.2003 From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 19:22:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 19:22:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 4629 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 19:22:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 4625 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 19:22:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 19:22:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 857DB19C24; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 06:22:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AA3E419C03; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 06:22:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B69E419C15; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 06:21:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from klastr1.icpf.cas.cz (klastr1.icpf.cas.cz [147.231.137.254]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AF92F19C01 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 06:21:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from klastr1.icpf.cas.cz (klastr1.icpf.cas.cz [147.231.137.254]) by klastr1.icpf.cas.cz (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6PARmH29914 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 12:27:48 +0200 From: sasa To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] Re: random moving of cursor arrow Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 12:27:48 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) to boyd: >the only thing i know about serial ports is that i don't to know >anything about them -- ghastly, just ghastly ... hahahaha, you made me laugh. you're right about serial ports, but i have old hardware. sasa babic. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 19:54:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 19:54:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 5379 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 19:54:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 5375 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 19:54:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 19:54:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A08D619C2A; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 06:54:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6B71719C22; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 06:54:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9348119C1D; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 06:53:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from larch (unknown [195.173.15.12]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7C34219C14 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 06:53:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: steve.simon@snellwilcox.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] cvs tweeks Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:53:35 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi, Two tiny CVS tweeks for the archives. client.c 4884a4885 > *p++ = current_parsed_root->hostname; 4895d4895 < *p++ = current_parsed_root->hostname; The standard source puts the remote host's name before the -l user options which the plan9 argument parsing (quite rightly) won't allow. Also, adding '-DCVSRC_FILENAME="lib/cvsrc"' to CFLAGS in /sys/src/cmd/cvs/src/mkfile allows my home directory to be a bit tidyier. -Steve From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 20:05:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 20:05:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 5669 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 20:05:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 5665 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 20:05:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 20:05:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6192619C32; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 07:05:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4ECD619C29; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 07:05:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6093419C29; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 07:04:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-04.noos.net [212.198.2.73]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 90B1519C26 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 07:04:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 35561651 invoked by uid 0); 25 Jul 2003 11:04:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.73 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 25 Jul 2003 11:04:22 -0000 Message-ID: <015101c3529c$7b5d6540$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: [9fans] 9fs sources Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 13:04:12 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) ooh, that is way cool. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 22:43:56 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 22:43:56 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 9496 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 22:43:40 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 9492 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 22:43:40 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 22:43:40 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 83BDD19BAF; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:43:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5F99E19B0F; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:43:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EC1AF19AE9; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:42:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brahma.sdgm.net (brahma.sdgm.net [64.32.179.49]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5C8F319AC6 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:42:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <78395e5ba4292a1cf07915c72777d4b7@sdgm.net> From: boyd@sdgm.net To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] /sys/log/mail Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:42:25 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) why do i see this? brahma Jul 25 09:08:59 delivered boyd From boyd Fri Jul 25 09:08:59 EDT 2003 158 should i not see domain!boyd? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 23:01:08 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 23:01:08 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10158 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 23:01:07 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10154 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 23:01:07 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 23:01:07 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4245719B3B; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:00:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3EBD219A63; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:00:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9174719A8C; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:59:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AB7F4199DC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:59:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25299 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:59:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h6PDx7704315 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:59:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307251359.h6PDx7704315@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] walk In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 25 Jul 2003 08:36:14 +0200." <000501c35277$0bd23fe0$2a8be793@gli.cas.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----- =_aaaaaaaaaa0" Content-ID: <4310.1059141538.0@augusta.math.psu.edu> From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:59:07 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <4310.1059141538.1@augusta.math.psu.edu> > Dan Cross also has walk.c and sor.c (mentioned on the list earlier) -- Dan, > please, could you share them? Sure. I'll include them in this email. Note, however, that sor is an rc script, not a C program. Here are some pointers to my original posts on the subject, as well. These are mainly useful as an explanation of my position and for the examples of find idioms rendered in walk/sor. https://lists.cse.psu.edu/archives/9fans/2002-October/020820.html https://lists.cse.psu.edu/archives/9fans/2002-October/020822.html - Dan C. ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <4310.1059141538.2@augusta.math.psu.edu> /* * Walk a directory tree, in the style of du(1), * but with some additional flourishes. * * Dan Cross */ #include #include static int mkdepth(int); static char *mkname(char *, int *, char *, char *); static void walk(char *, int, int); static void walkname(char *, int, int); char *fmt; void main(int argc, char *argv[]) { char *dir; int depth; Dir *d; dir = "."; fmt = "%s\n"; depth = -1; ARGBEGIN { case 'd': depth = atoi(ARGF()); break; case 'q': quotefmtinstall(); doquote = needsrcquote; fmt = "%q\n"; break; }ARGEND if (argc == 0) walkname(".", depth, 1); else { for (dir = *argv; dir; dir = *++argv) { if ((d = dirstat(dir)) == nil) { fprint(2, "dirstat %s: %r\n", dir); continue; } walkname(dir, depth, d->mode & DMDIR); free(d); } } exits(0); } static void walkname(char *dirname, int depth, int isdir) { int fd; if (strcmp(dirname, ".") != 0 && strcmp(dirname, "..") != 0) print(fmt, dirname); if (isdir) { fd = open(dirname, OREAD); if (fd < 0) { fprint(2, "open %s: %r\n", dirname); return; } walk(dirname, fd, depth); close(fd); } } static char * mkname(char *name, int *l, char *basename, char *filename) { char *nname; int t; t = strlen(basename) + 1 + strlen(filename) + 1; if (*l == 0 || name == nil) { *l = t; name = malloc(t); if (name == nil) sysfatal("malloc %d: %r\n", l); } else if (*l < t) { nname = realloc(name, t); if (nname == nil) { free(name); sysfatal("malloc %d: %r\n", l); } *l = t; name = nname; } snprint(name, t, "%s/%s", basename, filename); cleanname(name); return(name); } static int mkdepth(int depth) { return((depth == -1) ? depth : depth - 1); } static void walk(char *dirname, int fd, int depth) { Dir *dir, *dp; char *name, *nname; int i, l, n, t; if (depth == 0) return; l = 0; name = nil; n = dirreadall(fd, &dir); for (dp = dir, i = 0; i < n; dp++, i++) { if (strcmp(dp->name, ".") == 0 || strcmp(dp->name, "..") == 0) continue; name = mkname(name, &l, dirname, dp->name); walkname(name, mkdepth(depth), dp->mode & DMDIR); } free(dir); if (name != nil) free(name); } ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <4310.1059141538.3@augusta.math.psu.edu> #!/bin/rc rfork e fn runtests { file=$1; shift while (! ~ $#* 0 && ! eval $1 ''''^$file^'''') shift if (! ~ $#* 0) echo $file } while (file = `{read}) { runtests $file $* } ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 23:08:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 23:08:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10363 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 23:08:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10359 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 23:08:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 23:08:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7EE2319A8C; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:08:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5AB1E19AD8; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:08:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9922A19AC6; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:07:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nautilus.escet.urjc.es (nautilus.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.207]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A9C0319A10 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:07:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <32987a381a6dd9037ee880078b7f5b3d@plan9.escet.urjc.es> From: Fco.J.Ballesteros To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] walk In-Reply-To: <200307251359.h6PDx7704315@augusta.math.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 16:07:28 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) there's also this single `walk' script that evaluates arbitrary expressions on files, like in ;; walk . '~ $f *.c && test -r $f && cp $f /tmp' its idea is simply to set $f to the file name and evaluate the command for each file found in the tree. Works fine enough so I didn't bother to replace it. #!/bin/rc rfork e if (~ $#* 0) { echo 'usage: walk file [cmd...]' >[1=2] exit usage } file=$1 shift if (~ $#* 0) cmd='echo $f' if not cmd=$* cd `{basename -d $file} exec du -a $file | awk '{print $2}' | while (f=`{read}) { eval $cmd } From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 23:09:25 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 23:09:25 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10401 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 23:09:24 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10397 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 23:09:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 23:09:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D39FE19AE9; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:09:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9627E19B19; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:09:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D707919AD3; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:08:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from galapagos.cse.psu.edu (galapagos.cse.psu.edu [130.203.12.17]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 68E7A19A8C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:08:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12244 invoked by uid 991); 25 Jul 2003 14:08:08 -0000 Message-ID: <20030725140808.12243.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] random moving of cursor arrow In-reply-to: <07e062e5bb237e12823dad2438110d9a@plan9.escet.urjc.es> References: <07e062e5bb237e12823dad2438110d9a@plan9.escet.urjc.es> Comments: In-reply-to Fco.J.Ballesteros message dated "Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:08:10 +0200." From: Scott Schwartz Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:08:08 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) | is it just the cursor, or the rest of system too? When doing a pull over ppp, eia1status reports lots of overruns. Watching the modem lights it looks like CS is always lit (not so under linux.) So I think something is not quite right in the uart driver. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 23:19:40 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 23:19:40 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10683 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 23:19:38 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10679 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 23:19:38 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 23:19:38 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E2AA219C03; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:19:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BBC0319BC8; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:19:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0CA0919BB5; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:18:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lavoro.home.cs.york.ac.uk (public1-york1-5-cust44.leed.broadband.ntl.com [80.0.45.44]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 187C019BC8 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:18:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] walk From: Charles Forsyth In-Reply-To: <200307251359.h6PDx7704315@augusta.math.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 15:16:55 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >> n = dirreadall(fd, &dir); >> for (dp = dir, i = 0; i < n; dp++, i++) { >> if (strcmp(dp->name, ".") == 0 || strcmp(dp->name, "..") == 0) >> continue; you should not need to eliminate . or .. when reading a directory From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 23:48:42 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 23:48:42 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11344 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 23:48:40 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11340 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 23:48:40 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 23:48:40 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 60D2719BE7; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:48:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 92D0819AB7; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:48:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1AC5919AB7; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:47:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0588619AD3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:47:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6PEZWnp001590 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 16:35:35 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h6PEZTUU001589 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 16:35:29 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: UART device driver (Was: [9fans] random moving of cursor arrow) Message-ID: <20030725163518.Z28024@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: <07e062e5bb237e12823dad2438110d9a@plan9.escet.urjc.es> <20030725140808.12243.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: <20030725140808.12243.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu>; from Scott Schwartz on Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 10:08:08AM -0400 Organization: Proxima Research & Development Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 16:35:19 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 10:08:08AM -0400, Scott Schwartz wrote: > > When doing a pull over ppp, eia1status reports lots of overruns. Watching > the modem lights it looks like CS is always lit (not so under linux.) > So I think something is not quite right in the uart driver. There's been a rewrite since 3rd Ed (you may recall lack of serial mouse support when 4th Ed was first released), and I had already noted bad mouse response on an AMD 586 wanna-be, but recently a faster CPU started showing signs of stress. At a glance, the interupt handler does not seem bloated, but I haven't had a chance to compare different versions. I understand this is Presotto territory so we may have to wait for his return. I'll have alook around in the meantime, the 8250 is one chip I understood pretty well in my day. The FIFO adds a little complexity I have not yet explored, but I don't think it's excessive. I have a vested interest, anyway: I have a six-port BOCA card with the most creative way of mapping its six ports to the I/O and interrupt space and I'd like some suggestions on representing this in plan9.ini. For each port, I can specify one of two addresses, where the first four may map to the conventional 3F8, 2F8, 3E8 and 2E8 of COM1, 2, 3 and 4 of yore. 3E0 and 2E0 are the options for the last two. The alternatives are 220, 228, 240, 248, 260, 268 (all hex, of course). I think I can disable a port by leaving out the corresponding jumper, too. Then for each port I have a choice of IRQ 4, 3, 10, 11, 12 and 15, respectively, or I can choose SHARED for any or all of them. Shared, in turn, can be IRQ 4 or 5. I'm looking for a way to indicate each of these options in plan9.ini, keeping in mind that I may want to use the default eia0 and eia1 (I don't know how far these stretch, given that on the original PC COM3 and COM4 uncomfortably shared IRQ$ and IRQ3 with COM1 and COM2, respectively). I thought of a six-character string like 112200 with 1 for IOP option 1, 2 for option 2 and 0 for disabled, but it's ugly and still does not help with shared IRQs. I won't mind using six description lines, but I don't know the plan9.ini syntax scanner well enough to implement such a thing without some advice. ++L PS: One last question, how would I handle a USB modem? Will I have to provide my own support? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Fri Jul 25 23:57:35 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Fri Jul 25 23:57:35 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11533 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jul 2003 23:57:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11529 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2003 23:57:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Jul 2003 23:57:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BD51E19C06; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:57:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5702819BB2; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:57:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9B12219BB2; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:56:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-05.noos.net [212.198.2.74]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C4D8F19A5E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:56:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17750997 invoked by uid 0); 25 Jul 2003 14:56:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO coma) ([81.64.132.185]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.74 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; 25 Jul 2003 14:56:42 -0000 Message-ID: <01e901c352bc$f06fe4a0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <07e062e5bb237e12823dad2438110d9a@plan9.escet.urjc.es> <20030725140808.12243.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu> <20030725163518.Z28024@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Subject: Re: UART device driver (Was: [9fans] random moving of cursor arrow) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 16:56:33 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > The FIFO adds a little > complexity I have not yet explored, but I don't think it's excessive. err, i hope it uses the fifo, and correctly,, otherwise you'll get 'orrible trouble. but, i'm not going anywhere near anything resembling an rs-232 port ... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 26 00:32:45 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 26 00:32:45 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12254 invoked by uid 1020); 26 Jul 2003 00:32:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12250 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2003 00:32:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 26 Jul 2003 00:32:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id F023C19C16; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:32:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0FFEB19C02; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:32:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6B5CC19BF3; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:31:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BBE5919BB2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:31:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07761 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:31:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h6PFVw704816 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:31:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307251531.h6PFVw704816@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] walk In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 25 Jul 2003 15:16:55 BST." From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:31:58 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > >> n = dirreadall(fd, &dir); > >> for (dp = dir, i = 0; i < n; dp++, i++) { > >> if (strcmp(dp->name, ".") == 0 || strcmp(dp->name, "..") == 0) > >> continue; > > you should not need to eliminate . or .. when reading a directory Good to know. I note, however, that du also explicitly ignores them. - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 26 08:20:40 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 26 08:20:40 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21765 invoked by uid 1020); 26 Jul 2003 08:20:39 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21761 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2003 08:20:38 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 26 Jul 2003 08:20:38 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C98AB19AA5; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 19:20:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CEFD419A73; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 19:20:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A84D519AA5; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 19:19:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from collyer.net (collyer.net [63.192.14.226]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B4D6119C55 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 19:19:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <9a9fa43f8e61d865877a3984a0cfd926@collyer.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] /sys/log/mail From: Geoff Collyer In-Reply-To: <78395e5ba4292a1cf07915c72777d4b7@sdgm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 16:19:49 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I see similar log entries. If you're mailing to domain!boyd, your rewrite file must be stripping `domain!', as I'd expect, but then you should see `(domain!boyd)' appended to the log entry. For local mail, 'From boyd' is right; no domain is appended to the From address of local mail, unless the recipient has a pipeto file. The From: address can be set in /mail/box/$user/headers. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 26 08:59:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 26 08:59:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 22707 invoked by uid 1020); 26 Jul 2003 08:59:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 22703 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2003 08:59:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 26 Jul 2003 08:59:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 71FEE19C5D; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 19:59:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 55C7619C55; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 19:59:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2583C19C55; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 19:58:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx01.netapp.com (mx01.netapp.com [198.95.226.53]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3DCA619AF0 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 19:58:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frejya.corp.netapp.com (frejya [10.10.20.91]) by mx01.netapp.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/NTAP-1.5) with ESMTP id h6PNw6Qw021814 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 16:58:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from place.org (wynne-lap [10.34.17.46]) by frejya.corp.netapp.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/NTAP-1.5) with ESMTP id h6PNw6Ra026225 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 16:58:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F21C40C.4000600@place.org> From: Stephen Wynne User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] dual-boot 9 on a laptop standalone Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 16:58:04 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) After a long hiatus, I'm thinking about trying Plan9 on my primary computing device, a Toshiba Tecra 8100 with a Xircom Cardbus Ethernet II 10/100 NIC. My old PCs, which I had collected for running Plan9 services, are turned off. They are back in their boxes, and are gathering dust. I'll probably ditch them soon. But what about just running on a laptop by itself for tinkering with Plan9 filesytems and development tools, reading mail, and surfing the web? If I dual-boot, I can run Win2k at work and Plan9 at home, right? 1. Will I be happy without any other Plan9 systems in my life? I presume the Wiki talks about how to live standalone. I presume I can tinker with filesystem servers running on the laptop and mapping them there. 2. I have a Win2k install that looks like this: [C:\ FAT boot partition] [logical slices for Linux] [D:\ NTFS Win2k partition] Can I back it all up with ntbackup and restore it after repartitioning for Plan9? I want Win2k on D:\WINNT so all my apps will continue working. 3. What are my choices for web browsing these days? 4. Will the Xircom work? Any other words of wisdom would be appreciated. Thanks, Steve From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 26 09:38:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 26 09:38:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 23836 invoked by uid 1020); 26 Jul 2003 09:38:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 23832 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2003 09:38:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 26 Jul 2003 09:38:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EF7EE19C66; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 20:38:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 161B519C3B; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 20:38:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BE9B1199DC; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 20:37:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D15F1199DD for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 20:37:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] logout from cpu server In-Reply-To: <20030725113833.R28024@cackle.proxima.alt.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-rvmlqjcdfrbkhgvusdpfyrohgf" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 20:37:31 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-rvmlqjcdfrbkhgvusdpfyrohgf Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit #c/key is replaced by factotum. If you want a getty-like program on the console server, have it query factotum for logins. --upas-rvmlqjcdfrbkhgvusdpfyrohgf Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Fri Jul 25 05:51:29 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Fri Jul 25 05:51:26 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3EB5119C1E; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:51:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8783319C05; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:51:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EA86219BD3; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:50:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 52E5C19B1E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:50:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6P9cenp001006 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:38:42 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h6P9cc4B001004 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:38:38 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] logout from cpu server Message-ID: <20030725113833.R28024@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: <20030725103100.N28024@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: ; from okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp on Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 06:12:25PM +0900 Organization: Proxima Research & Development Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:38:36 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 06:12:25PM +0900, okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp wrote: > > peridotite# Ctl-d > init: rc exit status: rc 106: false > init: can't check password; insecure > That must be because: if(consctl<0 || key<0 || write(consctl, "rawon", 5) != 5) print("init: can't check password; insecure\n"); which could be due to a number of causes. Maybe we can check which of consctl = open("#c/consctl", OWRITE); key = open("#c/key", OREAD); write(consctl, "rawon", 5); is most likely to have failed. Hm, /dev/key (#c/key) doesn't seem to exist anymore. Any suggestions from Bell Labs? ++L --upas-rvmlqjcdfrbkhgvusdpfyrohgf-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 26 09:47:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 26 09:47:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 24063 invoked by uid 1020); 26 Jul 2003 09:47:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 24059 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2003 09:47:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 26 Jul 2003 09:47:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 232A619C62; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 20:47:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7757619C5E; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 20:47:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3D24519C5E; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 20:46:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 620B119B35 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 20:46:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1e2c51d47b949be607a12b003925309b@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <52bd30fe791a1556eaebc33bb3719ff0@plan9.bell-labs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-rqcwygyznqhmmepraznkgqchut" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 20:46:03 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-rqcwygyznqhmmepraznkgqchut Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (1) just isn't done. rsc ran out of disk space on the diskette. I don't understand (2). I did an install from it both for kfs and fossil onto a blank (i.e. plan 9 free) disk. I'll need to know what error you are getting. --upas-rqcwygyznqhmmepraznkgqchut Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Wed Jul 23 12:37:28 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Wed Jul 23 12:37:26 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7942B19BBA; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:37:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E2BB319B5C; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:37:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5528E19B8A; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:36:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B4ECC19B3B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:36:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <52bd30fe791a1556eaebc33bb3719ff0@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <3874D5A2-BD23-11D7-B479-000393BD4420@volpe.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:36:35 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) There are many things wrong with the current CD image. Presotto believes he has most of them fixed, but a new image won't be available until he returns in a week or so. On Wed Jul 23 11:38:30 EDT 2003, vinnie@volpe.it wrote: > Hi all, > I tried to install Plan9 from a CD obtained from the image on the site. > > It seems installation instructions > (http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/installation_instructions/ > index.html)refers to an older version: kfs is now deprecated and no > info on fossil or fossil+venti installation. > then trying to install all options fails with different problems: > > 1) fossil+venti (default install) stop after prepdisk menu made > partitions with the following unrecoverable message: > "hey you finished everything! not supposed to happen" > No other messages, in any of the windows. > > 2) fossil only and kfs install fail because installr cannot allow to > chose the CD device as image source. > > Al suggestion welcome > > > Ciao and thanks > > Vincenzo Volpe --upas-rqcwygyznqhmmepraznkgqchut-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 26 11:23:48 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 26 11:23:48 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27355 invoked by uid 1020); 26 Jul 2003 11:23:37 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27351 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2003 11:23:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 26 Jul 2003 11:23:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2384319C55; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 22:23:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DA72819B0B; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 22:23:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3FD3D19C3B; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 22:22:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A40EB19A94 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 22:22:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: random moving of cursor arrow In-Reply-To: <012c01c3528e$f861d2a0$b9844051@insultant.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 22:22:10 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I'll bang at serial ports tomorrow and see if I can figure out what's happening. With modern machines, I shouldn't get overruns even without the fifo. I used to avoid the fifo for mice because it made the mouse jerky. Everything related has changed of course; uart driver, clock routine, and scheduler. Any could be at fault. I'll plug some machines back to back and see if I can cause overruns. A mouse really shouldn't be able to though, it's only 9600 baud or less. If we're missing, something is really screwed up. We only use ps2 mice these days but I can scrounge up some serial ones. It is true that if the mouse is misidentified, it will cause exactly the behavior babic is seeing, i.e., if it guesses the wrong protocol. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 26 12:32:51 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 26 12:32:51 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 29310 invoked by uid 1020); 26 Jul 2003 12:32:40 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 29306 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2003 12:32:39 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 26 Jul 2003 12:32:39 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id AF4BA19C6D; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 23:32:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 629DE19C59; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 23:32:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6C65C19C65; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 23:31:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams004.ftl.affinity.com (lvs00-fl.valueweb.net [216.219.253.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9C25E19C45 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 23:31:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coma ([81.64.132.185]) by ams.ftl.affinity.com with SMTP id <213687-10427>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 23:30:35 -0400 Message-ID: <006d01c35326$40d269e0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] logout from cpu server MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 05:29:36 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) factotum rocks!! From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 26 14:51:56 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 26 14:51:56 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 32476 invoked by uid 1020); 26 Jul 2003 14:51:40 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 32472 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2003 14:51:39 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 26 Jul 2003 14:51:39 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0834919C6E; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 01:51:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4761E19C43; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 01:51:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D12EC19C6E; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 01:51:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3C50C19C43 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 01:51:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4e64a7709fe42fbfc4744c0171df28e2@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: UART device driver (Was: [9fans] random moving of cursor arrow) In-Reply-To: <20030725163518.Z28024@cackle.proxima.alt.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 01:50:56 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Fri Jul 25 10:48:34 EDT 2003, lucio@proxima.alt.za wrote: > ... > I have a vested interest, anyway: I have a six-port BOCA card with > the most creative way of mapping its six ports to the I/O and > interrupt space and I'd like some suggestions on representing this > in plan9.ini. > ... If it's an ISA card then shared interrupts will not work. Use a line in plan9.ini for each port. Write a new driver (say uartisa.c) with a pnp function which calls allocates the necessary data structures and calls uarti8250alloc for each plan9.ini line, say uart0=type=i8250 port=XXX irq=Y See /sys/src/9/pc/uartpci.c for many clues. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 26 17:34:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 26 17:34:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 2877 invoked by uid 1020); 26 Jul 2003 17:34:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 2873 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2003 17:34:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 26 Jul 2003 17:34:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 29A5219C7B; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 04:34:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DD43C19B59; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 04:34:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8598E19B68; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 04:33:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from doppio.vitanuova.com (unknown [62.254.170.97]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A7F3619AA4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 04:33:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <29ce300d69819f673d96bbd7d9ae9302@vitanuova.com> From: C H Forsyth To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: random moving of cursor arrow In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 09:37:12 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >>I used to avoid the fifo for mice because it made the mouse jerky. i never really understood that: i switched on the uart fifo at the start on a system i did and it handled a mouse without fuss. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 26 17:52:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 26 17:52:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 3175 invoked by uid 1020); 26 Jul 2003 17:52:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 3171 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2003 17:52:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 26 Jul 2003 17:52:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E280919C80; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 04:52:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C76ED19B59; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 04:52:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C71E419B68; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 04:51:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams002.ftl.affinity.com (lvs00-fl.valueweb.net [216.219.253.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EBFD519ABD for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 04:51:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coma ([81.64.132.185]) by ams.ftl.affinity.com with SMTP id <561076-9662>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 04:51:23 -0400 Message-ID: <016601c35353$10db3be0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <29ce300d69819f673d96bbd7d9ae9302@vitanuova.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: random moving of cursor arrow MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 10:51:11 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > >>I used to avoid the fifo for mice because it made the mouse jerky. > > i never really understood that: i switched on the uart fifo at the start on a system > i did and it handled a mouse without fuss. no, it makes perfect sense [some random floyd/waters quote] 'cos if you don't fill/empty it right all sorts of 'orrible stuff can happen. iirc, from the dz-kmc days you needed to manage the 'fifo' so it wouldn't overrun, but at the same time you needed a timer to empty it [stick on the rawq] so stuff just didn't get 'stuck'. how much time have i wasted with rs-232 junk? too much. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sat Jul 26 18:56:45 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sat Jul 26 18:56:45 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 4646 invoked by uid 1020); 26 Jul 2003 18:56:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 4642 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2003 18:56:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 26 Jul 2003 18:56:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 32A4919B45; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 05:56:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5F97919ACE; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 05:56:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8D3D819A94; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 05:55:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.rdslink.ro (mail.rdslink.ro [193.231.236.20]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 4A4E7199E1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 05:55:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23695 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2003 09:49:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ratsnest.hole) (10.100.0.28) by mail.rdslink.ro with SMTP; 26 Jul 2003 09:49:52 -0000 From: Enache Adrian To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: random moving of cursor arrow Message-ID: <20030726095940.GA2481@ratsnest.hole> Mail-Followup-To: Enache Adrian , 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: <012c01c3528e$f861d2a0$b9844051@insultant.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:59:40 +0300 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) A question about mouse support: Have the new changes to the serial ports & mice code added support for scroll serial mice (aka microsoft intellimice with 5 buttons) and for shift-button3 button2 emulation ? I'm using a rather old 4th edition plan9 (Tue Sep 3 00:36:58 2002), and there I hacked some code in the kernel so it works fine for me now (but no code for pnp identification in aux/mouse.c - that would be simple, though). It looks like this: src/9/port/devmouse.c: /* * microsoft intellimouse 3 buttons + scroll * byte 0 - 1 L R Y7 Y6 X7 X6 * byte 1 - 0 X5 X4 X3 X2 X1 X0 * byte 2 - 0 Y5 Y4 Y3 Y2 Y1 Y0 * byte 3 - 0 0 M % % % % * * %: 0xf => U , 0x1 => D * * L: left * R: right * U: up * D: down */ int m5mouseputc(Queue*, int c) { static uchar msg[3]; static int nb; msg[nb++] = c & 0x7f; if (nb == 4) { schar dx,dy,newbuttons; dx = msg[1] | (msg[0] & 0x3) << 6; dy = msg[2] | (msg[0] & 0xc) << 4; newbuttons = (msg[0] & 0x10) >> (shiftpressed ? 3:2) | (msg[0] & 0x20) >> 5 | ( msg[3] == 0x10 ? 0x02 : msg[3] == 0x0f ? 0x08 : msg[3] == 0x01 ? 0x10 : 0 ); mousetrack(dx, dy, newbuttons, TK2MS(MACHP(0)->ticks)); nb = 0; } return 0; } (I also changed 'shift' in i8042intr() to 'shiftpressed' and made it global, and removed 'mouseshifted' which was never set). Thanks & Regards, Adi From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 27 00:38:47 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 27 00:38:47 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10503 invoked by uid 1020); 27 Jul 2003 00:38:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10499 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 00:38:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 00:38:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D117519B71; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 11:38:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D523619B6B; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 11:38:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C669319B0C; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 11:37:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E685219A94 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 11:37:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: random moving of cursor arrow In-Reply-To: <29ce300d69819f673d96bbd7d9ae9302@vitanuova.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-ueohervfasvaxjinsugzewvztl" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 11:37:42 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-ueohervfasvaxjinsugzewvztl Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We had a long history of 16[54]xx chips with buggy fifos and/or unchangeable length fifos. At 1200 baud, these guys used to delay mouse actions 1/7 of a second during a sweep and as much as 1/4 second at the end of the sweep. The sweep delay was barely perceptible but the mouse movement just as you were taking your hand off the mouse bothered people. We had similar problems with uarts on MIPS/SGI machines. All those machines should have died years ago, but since I don't normally use a serial port mouse (all ours are PS/2) I just haven't bothered. I'll make fifo on the default for serial mice. However, that really doesn't explain what's going on. Unless the people seeing these problems are on sub 100 megahz machines, we're really screwing up if we can't keep up with 120 or 240 interrupts per second. Something must have broken when we changed to a common model for all the uarts (or changed the scheduler). I'll go into work today and bang at some machines and see if I can recreate/fix the problem. I'm back for a way or two to rest up and serial ports are about as restful as it gets. --upas-ueohervfasvaxjinsugzewvztl Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Sat Jul 26 04:34:31 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Sat Jul 26 04:34:28 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0EDFB19C76; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 04:34:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E4CB619A98; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 04:34:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8598E19B68; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 04:33:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from doppio.vitanuova.com (unknown [62.254.170.97]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A7F3619AA4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 04:33:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <29ce300d69819f673d96bbd7d9ae9302@vitanuova.com> From: C H Forsyth To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: random moving of cursor arrow In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 09:37:12 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >>I used to avoid the fifo for mice because it made the mouse jerky. i never really understood that: i switched on the uart fifo at the start on a system i did and it handled a mouse without fuss. --upas-ueohervfasvaxjinsugzewvztl-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 27 01:00:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 27 01:00:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10996 invoked by uid 1020); 27 Jul 2003 01:00:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10992 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 01:00:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 01:00:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9A4B319B80; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:00:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1955819B33; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:00:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 37CC219B6B; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 11:59:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5622019B33 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 11:59:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <98c04f7f3b956c6344a100d18e2e6b26@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] random moving of cursor arrow In-Reply-To: <20030725104302.O28024@cackle.proxima.alt.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-yopzohnsmiqdzmypmfpmekajsy" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 11:59:30 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-yopzohnsmiqdzmypmfpmekajsy Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What does the word jangly mean? --upas-yopzohnsmiqdzmypmfpmekajsy Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Fri Jul 25 04:55:31 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Fri Jul 25 04:55:28 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 326C119C05; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:55:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CE9D319BDE; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:55:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7DF3819BFE; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:54:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C34BE19B0F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:54:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6P8h8np000838 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:43:10 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h6P8h5bt000837 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:43:05 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] random moving of cursor arrow Message-ID: <20030725104302.O28024@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: ; from sasa on Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 10:52:31AM +0200 Organization: Proxima Research & Development Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:43:03 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 10:52:31AM +0200, sasa wrote: > > > when i copy large amount of data from cd-rom to hard-disk (300 mb) > and try to move the cursor arrow, then the cursor is randomly > moving around the screen. The new serial port device driver seems a bit jangly (Dave, is this your doing?). > so, i'm not able to work with mouse while copying from cd to harddrive. > procesor is amd k6 300 mhz, graphic card is s3virge, 96 mb of ram. > echo i1 > /dev/eia0ctl usually solves that for me, but naturally it relies on the serial chip being advanced enough to include the FIFO buffer. I have wondered what it is that changed and make the serial driver less responsive, but I am not (yet) going to delve in there. ++L --upas-yopzohnsmiqdzmypmfpmekajsy-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 27 01:12:45 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 27 01:12:45 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11320 invoked by uid 1020); 27 Jul 2003 01:12:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11316 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 01:12:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 01:12:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8E40A19C68; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 73395199B6; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:12:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7F29519AFF; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:11:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F2C4D199B6 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:11:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] (no subject) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:11:06 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Could everyone who is having problems with their serial ports please mail me info about their machines? In particular number/speed of CPU's, mouse type (if its a mouse problem), and port speeds. Thanks. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 27 01:41:53 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 27 01:41:53 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11823 invoked by uid 1020); 27 Jul 2003 01:41:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11819 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 01:41:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 01:41:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9958D19B76; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:41:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7120D19A9F; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:41:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7A65E19AF7; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:40:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D2B9A19A98 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:40:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27071 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:40:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h6QGeR710595 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:40:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307261640.h6QGeR710595@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] random moving of cursor arrow In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 26 Jul 2003 11:59:30 EDT." <98c04f7f3b956c6344a100d18e2e6b26@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:40:27 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > What does the word jangly mean? I thought it meant, ``like a bell''. I suppose I'm wrong. Btw- I've seen this behavior on my Thinkpad, which has a built in PS/2 mouse. I don't think it's in the serial driver. - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 27 01:45:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 27 01:45:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11887 invoked by uid 1020); 27 Jul 2003 01:45:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11883 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 01:45:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 01:45:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1F39419B18; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:45:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6E73419B05; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:45:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C1D15199F2; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:44:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EDD4219995 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:44:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <30a28313307c9b5b3fdb6455a2f17f20@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] random moving of cursor arrow In-Reply-To: <200307261640.h6QGeR710595@augusta.math.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-imnxcrwzucnptqtnxlghvclfbq" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:44:04 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-imnxcrwzucnptqtnxlghvclfbq Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm still confused. What does it mean for a mouse to be harsh-sounding, inharmonious, and discordant? Well, I guess in acme, discordant might have a meaning. --upas-imnxcrwzucnptqtnxlghvclfbq Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Sat Jul 26 12:41:29 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Sat Jul 26 12:41:26 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 10B7819B6B; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:41:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0B30F19A98; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:41:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7A65E19AF7; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:40:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D2B9A19A98 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:40:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27071 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:40:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h6QGeR710595 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:40:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307261640.h6QGeR710595@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] random moving of cursor arrow In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 26 Jul 2003 11:59:30 EDT." <98c04f7f3b956c6344a100d18e2e6b26@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:40:27 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > What does the word jangly mean? I thought it meant, ``like a bell''. I suppose I'm wrong. Btw- I've seen this behavior on my Thinkpad, which has a built in PS/2 mouse. I don't think it's in the serial driver. - Dan C. --upas-imnxcrwzucnptqtnxlghvclfbq-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 27 02:11:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 27 02:11:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12453 invoked by uid 1020); 27 Jul 2003 02:11:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12449 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 02:11:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 02:11:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5776319AB8; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:11:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 465DA19A94; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:11:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 53BFC19A94; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:10:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailnw.centurytel.net (mailnw.centurytel.net [209.206.160.237]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6F9C319A17 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:10:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from laptopvmw.9netics.com ([64.91.109.37]) by mailnw.centurytel.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6QHAlp2016515 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 10:10:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] random moving of cursor arrow From: "Skip Tavakkolian" In-Reply-To: <30a28313307c9b5b3fdb6455a2f17f20@plan9.bell-labs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 10:10:55 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >> What does the word jangly mean? Perhaps it is the effect rather than the cause, as in "the mouse is jangling as I bang it on the desk when it is nonresponsive and jerky". âş From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 27 02:11:46 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 27 02:11:46 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12460 invoked by uid 1020); 27 Jul 2003 02:11:46 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12456 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 02:11:46 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 02:11:46 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 53E6919B6D; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:11:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BDA3319B25; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:11:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7DB8519A94; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:10:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams004.ftl.affinity.com (lvs00-fl.valueweb.net [216.219.253.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AFB1C19A17 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:10:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coma ([81.64.132.185]) by ams.ftl.affinity.com with SMTP id <213222-32664>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:10:37 -0400 Message-ID: <01eb01c35398$ce0d0500$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <98c04f7f3b956c6344a100d18e2e6b26@plan9.bell-labs.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] random moving of cursor arrow MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 19:10:23 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > What does the word jangly mean? in the guitar world it means multiple sounds/frequencies generated by one chord. i guess, the context it was used, it means jittery. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 27 02:15:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 27 02:15:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12490 invoked by uid 1020); 27 Jul 2003 02:15:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12486 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 02:15:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 02:15:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 41EBE19A94; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:15:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A767D19AB7; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:15:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8E95919AB7; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:14:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DFEFE19A53 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:14:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00783 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:14:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h6QHEK710741 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:14:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307261714.h6QHEK710741@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] random moving of cursor arrow In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:44:04 EDT." <30a28313307c9b5b3fdb6455a2f17f20@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:14:20 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I'm still confused. What does it mean for a mouse to be harsh-sounding, > inharmonious, and discordant? That it's fallen off the side of the desk and is banging against a metal filing cabinet? Or maybe Lucio is just applying an aural term to the visual domain to describe the movement of the mouse cursor on the screen. The movement is harsh, jerky, and discordant with respect to the motion of the hand. Action and reaction are inharmonious. > Well, I guess in acme, discordant might have a meaning. Oh yeah, that too. - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 27 02:20:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 27 02:20:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12658 invoked by uid 1020); 27 Jul 2003 02:20:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12654 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 02:20:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 02:20:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id F31ED19C5A; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:20:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0CFE319AB7; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:20:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3255819B25; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:19:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.mightycheese.com (mail.mightycheese.com [209.61.186.18]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 86D1A19AA4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:19:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [216.239.45.4] (HELO glenda.corp.google.com) by mail.mightycheese.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 711189 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:29:26 -0500 Message-ID: <20110ca67ecc4682f86231f694ec0320@mightycheese.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] random moving of cursor arrow From: "rob pike, esq." In-Reply-To: <200307261714.h6QHEK710741@augusta.math.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 10:19:14 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) i think he meant the mouse jangled like a bad simile. -rob From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 27 02:25:35 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 27 02:25:35 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12763 invoked by uid 1020); 27 Jul 2003 02:25:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12759 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 02:25:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 02:25:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 64532199E3; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:25:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3921F19AA4; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:25:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id F18D519AB7; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:24:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams006.ftl.affinity.com (lvs00-fl.valueweb.net [216.219.253.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2F4C6199E3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:24:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coma ([81.64.132.185]) by ams.ftl.affinity.com with SMTP id <215221-8055>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:23:31 -0400 Message-ID: <021e01c3539a$9bd1e900$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <200307261714.h6QHEK710741@augusta.math.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] random moving of cursor arrow MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 19:23:18 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > The movement > is harsh, jerky, and discordant with respect to the motion of the hand. > Action and reaction are inharmonious. like the french verb to tune (or be in tune): accorder [it has other meanings too] so it's not in sync with your inputs, much like the Microsoft Knife (tm). From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 27 04:03:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 27 04:03:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 14864 invoked by uid 1020); 27 Jul 2003 04:03:38 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 14860 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 04:03:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 04:03:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0C17E19B3C; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 15:03:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B769219ADB; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 15:03:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2321819ADB; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 15:02:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hamnavoe (hamnavoe.gotadsl.co.uk [213.208.117.150]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1A9F819AC5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 15:02:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: random moving of cursor arrow From: Richard Miller In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:01:51 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > It is true that if the mouse is misidentified, it will cause exactly the > behavior babic is seeing, i.e., if it guesses the wrong protocol. ... for example, if you happen to move the mouse during boot-up just as the aux/mouse command is executed. Eventually I've learned to keep my hand off until the rio screen appears. -- Richard From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 27 05:56:35 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 27 05:56:35 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 17127 invoked by uid 1020); 27 Jul 2003 05:56:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 17122 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 05:56:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 05:56:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6DEEF19A78; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 16:56:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F3EB219A9F; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 16:56:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1328719A9C; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 16:55:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams006.ftl.affinity.com (lvs00-fl.valueweb.net [216.219.253.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4438E19A78 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 16:55:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coma ([81.64.132.185]) by ams.ftl.affinity.com with SMTP id <217640-8047>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 16:54:51 -0400 Message-ID: <031a01c353b8$2106fda0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <78395e5ba4292a1cf07915c72777d4b7@sdgm.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] /sys/log/mail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 22:54:37 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > brahma Jul 25 09:08:59 delivered boyd From boyd Fri Jul 25 09:08:59 EDT 2003 158 ahh, me bad. a had a typo in the .dict file. fixed now. flames to me. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 27 08:39:43 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 27 08:39:43 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21041 invoked by uid 1020); 27 Jul 2003 08:39:41 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21037 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 08:39:41 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 08:39:41 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 51A6A19AFD; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 19:39:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D257619A9C; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 19:39:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 439E719A9F; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 19:38:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailnw.centurytel.net (mailnw.centurytel.net [209.206.160.237]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 61CC419A90 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 19:38:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from laptopvmw.9netics.com ([64.91.109.37]) by mailnw.centurytel.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6QNcXp2012883 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 16:38:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <96f15469d268b8d29870458260c52c71@centurytel.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] /sys/log/mail From: "Skip Tavakkolian" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 16:38:42 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > brahma Jul 25 09:08:59 delivered boyd From boyd Fri Jul 25 09:08:59 EDT 2003 158 There is something profoundly metaphysical in the hidden message: "brahma delivered boyd from boyd" âş From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 27 08:44:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 27 08:44:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21154 invoked by uid 1020); 27 Jul 2003 08:44:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21150 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 08:44:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 08:44:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EACCB19B63; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 19:44:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BE24419A9C; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 19:44:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 029B219A9C; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 19:43:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams013.ftl.affinity.com (lvs00-fl.valueweb.net [216.219.253.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 341E419A17 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 19:43:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coma ([81.64.132.185]) by ams.ftl.affinity.com with SMTP id <216567-31583>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 19:42:47 -0400 Message-ID: <03a401c353cf$96dff060$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <96f15469d268b8d29870458260c52c71@centurytel.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] /sys/log/mail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 01:42:33 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > There is something profoundly metaphysical in the > hidden message: "brahma delivered boyd from boyd" âş LOL look, it's all dan cross' fault. err, that and my typos ... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 27 09:04:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 27 09:04:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21706 invoked by uid 1020); 27 Jul 2003 09:04:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21702 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 09:04:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 09:04:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A19DB19B26; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:04:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7D13819A90; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:04:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id AD6AB19B25; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:03:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0F42719A90 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:03:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA14121 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:03:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h6R03f712720 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:03:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307270003.h6R03f712720@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] /sys/log/mail In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 27 Jul 2003 01:42:33 +0200." <03a401c353cf$96dff060$b9844051@insultant.net> From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:03:41 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > There is something profoundly metaphysical in the > > hidden message: "brahma delivered boyd from boyd" > > LOL > > look, it's all dan cross' fault. err, that and my typos ... Bah! It's really all Saroja's fault. She gave me the idea to name the CPU server brahma. Besides, no one worships Brahma anymore; it's my understand that there's only one temple to Brahma left in all of India. I guess that's what he gets for laughing at Shiva.... - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 27 09:49:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 27 09:49:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 22615 invoked by uid 1020); 27 Jul 2003 09:49:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 22610 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 09:49:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 09:49:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CD59219B7B; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:49:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5903419AC4; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:49:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CDB4819AC4; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:48:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 00C4219A86 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:48:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6R0m3eH019324 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 18:48:03 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6R0m3UO019320 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 18:48:03 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] secstore passwords question Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 18:48:03 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) hi, are secstore passwords only changeable by the user who runs auth/secstored? the documentation doesn't indicate otherwise and /adm/secstore is 770. what should an administrator do when adding a new user to the secstore? "here is your secstore password, but you can't change it"? pointers to man pages and documentation are welcome :) andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 27 09:55:35 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 27 09:55:35 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 22730 invoked by uid 1020); 27 Jul 2003 09:55:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 22726 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 09:55:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 09:55:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7E40719B64; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:55:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1EBCE19AA4; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:55:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9A8A419AC4; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:54:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams004.ftl.affinity.com (lvs00-fl.valueweb.net [216.219.253.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C20B819A86 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:54:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coma ([81.64.132.185]) by ams.ftl.affinity.com with SMTP id <214803-32672>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:53:29 -0400 Message-ID: <03c801c353d9$776014e0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <96f15469d268b8d29870458260c52c71@centurytel.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] /sys/log/mail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 02:53:15 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES,UPPERCASE_50_75 version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > There is something profoundly metaphysical in the > hidden message: "brahma delivered boyd from boyd" âş maybe it worked: MY NAME IS LUZIZILA NZANZA FROM ... 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Sun Jul 27 10:07:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 23120 invoked by uid 1020); 27 Jul 2003 10:07:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 23116 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 10:07:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 10:07:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3716919B9A; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:07:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 75FA319B83; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:07:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8B8E319AC4; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:06:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B47A519A86 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:06:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] secstore passwords question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-liigbwewmbpnybiyjrzhtidoxk" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:06:10 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-liigbwewmbpnybiyjrzhtidoxk Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit auth/secstore -c changes a password. man secstore --upas-liigbwewmbpnybiyjrzhtidoxk Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Sat Jul 26 20:49:25 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Sat Jul 26 20:49:23 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1CDB619A86; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:49:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1203719A86; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:49:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CDB4819AC4; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:48:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 00C4219A86 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:48:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6R0m3eH019324 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 18:48:03 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6R0m3UO019320 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 18:48:03 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] secstore passwords question Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 18:48:03 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) hi, are secstore passwords only changeable by the user who runs auth/secstored? the documentation doesn't indicate otherwise and /adm/secstore is 770. what should an administrator do when adding a new user to the secstore? "here is your secstore password, but you can't change it"? pointers to man pages and documentation are welcome :) andrey --upas-liigbwewmbpnybiyjrzhtidoxk-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 27 10:11:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 27 10:11:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 23218 invoked by uid 1020); 27 Jul 2003 10:11:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 23214 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 10:11:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 10:11:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id ACBDD19B94; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:11:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A7DF919AAB; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:11:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BDEE619B25; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:10:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E930B19A86 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:10:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6R19veH019372 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 19:09:57 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6R19vKR019368 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 19:09:57 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] secstore passwords question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 19:09:57 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I was looking at secuser. Apologies. On Sat, 26 Jul 2003, David Presotto wrote: > auth/secstore -c changes a password. man secstore From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 27 10:54:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 27 10:54:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 24260 invoked by uid 1020); 27 Jul 2003 10:54:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 24256 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 10:54:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 10:54:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D289B19A17; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:54:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A855919C6A; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:54:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 92FB919C43; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:53:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B142319B9D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:53:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6R1rQeH019412 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 19:53:26 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6R1rQju019408 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 19:53:26 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] secstore passwords question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 19:53:26 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Another question, of the dumb variety: to enable ssh logins to the system I need to do an: aux/rsagen -t 'service=sshnet' > /mnt/factotum/ctl however the factotum is compiled in the kernel of the auth server and is started from the boot script in /sys/lib/sysconfig/authsrv/... at this point there's not secstore running so there's no way to tell factotum what the rsagen key for the machine is, so we end up with an unusable ssh server. should secstore be compiled in the kernel and started right before factotum during the boot sequence (taking the secstore key from nvram)? or am I missing something embarrassingly trivial again? andrey On Sat, 26 Jul 2003, David Presotto wrote: > auth/secstore -c changes a password. man secstore From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 27 11:00:44 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 27 11:00:44 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 24380 invoked by uid 1020); 27 Jul 2003 11:00:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 24376 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 11:00:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 11:00:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 041C819C7A; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 22:00:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 01D4619C72; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 22:00:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id ADEFC19C72; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:59:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams006.ftl.affinity.com (lvs00-fl.valueweb.net [216.219.253.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E6B1D19C6B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:59:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coma ([81.64.132.185]) by ams.ftl.affinity.com with SMTP id <213738-8054>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:58:28 -0400 Message-ID: <03fe01c353e2$8a036b20$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] secstore passwords question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 03:58:12 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > or am I missing something embarrassingly trivial again? could just be bad karma. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 27 11:14:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 27 11:14:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 24904 invoked by uid 1020); 27 Jul 2003 11:14:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 24900 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 11:14:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 11:14:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 72FFE19C84; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 22:14:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B780419C74; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 22:14:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BA27619C71; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 22:13:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D422019B8C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 22:13:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3b45cf2a4f20a838b6c03a7c6f2cafd6@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] secstore passwords question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-hkdygnfagbvwpkbujbuehqdodt" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 22:13:46 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-hkdygnfagbvwpkbujbuehqdodt Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit depends on how many machines you have. If secstored is running on a different machine, then factotum will call it up when it starts and download the keys. Otherwise, you can start secstore some time later and redirect its output to the factotum/ctl. --upas-hkdygnfagbvwpkbujbuehqdodt Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Sat Jul 26 21:54:26 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Sat Jul 26 21:54:24 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0DF2419C5F; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:54:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 016B019BA4; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:54:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 92FB919C43; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:53:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B142319B9D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:53:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6R1rQeH019412 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 19:53:26 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6R1rQju019408 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 19:53:26 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] secstore passwords question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 19:53:26 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Another question, of the dumb variety: to enable ssh logins to the system I need to do an: aux/rsagen -t 'service=sshnet' > /mnt/factotum/ctl however the factotum is compiled in the kernel of the auth server and is started from the boot script in /sys/lib/sysconfig/authsrv/... at this point there's not secstore running so there's no way to tell factotum what the rsagen key for the machine is, so we end up with an unusable ssh server. should secstore be compiled in the kernel and started right before factotum during the boot sequence (taking the secstore key from nvram)? or am I missing something embarrassingly trivial again? andrey On Sat, 26 Jul 2003, David Presotto wrote: > auth/secstore -c changes a password. man secstore --upas-hkdygnfagbvwpkbujbuehqdodt-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 27 13:24:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 27 13:24:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27992 invoked by uid 1020); 27 Jul 2003 13:24:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27988 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 13:24:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 13:24:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4342B19C85; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 00:24:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4448319A03; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 00:24:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id AF7F919C7F; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 00:23:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C407219B5B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 00:23:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6R4N0eH019528 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 22:23:00 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6R4N03i019524 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 22:23:00 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] secstore passwords question In-Reply-To: <3b45cf2a4f20a838b6c03a7c6f2cafd6@plan9.bell-labs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 22:23:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Sat, 26 Jul 2003, David Presotto wrote: > depends on how many machines you have. If secstored is running on a different > machine, then factotum will call it up when it starts and download the > keys. Otherwise, you can start secstore some time later and redirect its > output to the factotum/ctl. redirecting works, thanx... one more question: are the standalone secstore servers in use fossil or kfs machines, or are they connected to a file server for everything but the secstore? andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 27 13:46:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 27 13:46:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 28549 invoked by uid 1020); 27 Jul 2003 13:46:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 28545 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 13:46:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 13:46:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A761F19C89; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 00:46:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AC94119C87; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 00:46:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C203219C86; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 00:45:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kaukau.mcs.vuw.ac.nz (kaukau.mcs.vuw.ac.nz [130.195.5.20]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7278B19C82 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 00:45:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from square-affair.mcs.vuw.ac.nz (square-affair.mcs.vuw.ac.nz [130.195.5.170]) by kaukau.mcs.vuw.ac.nz (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6R4is1e027118 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 16:44:54 +1200 (NZST) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by square-affair.mcs.vuw.ac.nz (8.11.6/8.11.1) id h6R4isU04462 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 16:44:54 +1200 (NZST) From: Nick Jamieson To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200307271644.54094.ncj@mcs.vuw.ac.nz> X-MD-Debug: 0 USER_AGENT_KMAIL X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.35 Subject: [9fans] VMware Workstation 4 install Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 16:44:53 +1200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hello world. I can boot from the installation CD and install Plan 9 in a VMware Workstation 4 virtual machine but when I reboot the virtual machine I get these messages: --- MBR...PBS...Plan 9 from Bell Labs ELCR: 0000 apm ax=f000 cx=f000 dx=40 di=ffff ebx=5a43 esi=-1 dev A0 port 1F0 config 427A capabilities 2F00 mwdma 0007 udma 0207 dev B0 port 1F0 config 85C4 capabilities 0F00 mwdma 0007 udma 0207 --- Then vmware-vmx takes 97% CPU but nothing visible happens - no disk access, no output. Has anyone else experienced something similar to this? Regards Nick Jamieson From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 27 16:38:43 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 27 16:38:43 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 32560 invoked by uid 1020); 27 Jul 2003 16:38:42 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 32556 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 16:38:42 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 16:38:42 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C950419C43; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 03:38:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5FA9919B8C; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 03:38:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 70DE219B8C; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 03:37:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp808.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp808.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.187]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 7EACF19A7C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 03:37:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from adsl-68-74-12-68.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (HELO ameritech.net) (dbailey27@ameritech.net@68.74.12.68 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 07:37:20 -0000 Message-ID: <3F238F58.7000202@ameritech.net> From: northern snowfall User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020518 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] Anyone awake? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 03:37:44 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hey all, I went to a computer show tonight and found a MiniDIN8 -> DB25 cable for a Macintosh. Since my partner- in-crime is away mountain climbing, I have no idea how to set this up. Google searches only reveal documentation on setting up serial consoles on the server side, not the client side. I'm planning on using an IBM PC (either plan9 or UNIX) as the terminal. Can anyone give me any pointers on how to set this up? Since the cable is DB25, I'm lookin' at using my parallel port. Is that even possible, to simulate a serial console over the parallel? Or, am I looking at using another adapter to connect the parallel to serial? Thanks, as always, Don http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 27 18:50:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 27 18:50:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 2887 invoked by uid 1020); 27 Jul 2003 18:50:37 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 2883 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 18:50:37 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 18:50:37 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C98C719C8C; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 05:50:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 213FC19A8B; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 05:50:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 075EC19C77; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 05:49:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams003.ftl.affinity.com (lvs00-fl.valueweb.net [216.219.253.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3B01F19A8B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 05:49:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coma ([81.64.132.185]) by ams.ftl.affinity.com with SMTP id <216558-22195>; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 05:49:01 -0400 Message-ID: <000a01c35424$480a5b60$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <3F238F58.7000202@ameritech.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] Anyone awake? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 11:48:48 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Since the cable is DB25, I'm lookin' at using my > parallel port. Is that even possible, to simulate a serial > console over the parallel? this doesn't sound very plausible, but you never know. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 27 21:07:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 27 21:07:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 5651 invoked by uid 1020); 27 Jul 2003 21:07:37 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 5647 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 21:07:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 21:07:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 55D5D19C52; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 08:07:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3652519B40; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 08:07:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 76F7019B8E; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 08:06:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 91FC319B40 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 08:06:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <52f3f3a89088a9cb1791aecced150068@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Anyone awake? In-Reply-To: <3F238F58.7000202@ameritech.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-szkyriqwxqwjacvhkhowxaoenv" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 08:06:46 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-szkyriqwxqwjacvhkhowxaoenv Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit With much effort, probably. Which side do you want to plug the parallel port into? If its the PC, you're going to have to do your own oversampling of the incoming signal to build characters. You might get away with doing it in a user program if its priority is high enough but I'ld say you'll probably end up writing a driver... --upas-szkyriqwxqwjacvhkhowxaoenv Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Sun Jul 27 03:38:35 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Sun Jul 27 03:38:33 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8882D19C6B; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 03:38:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1DD1919A7C; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 03:38:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 70DE219B8C; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 03:37:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp808.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp808.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.187]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 7EACF19A7C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 03:37:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from adsl-68-74-12-68.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (HELO ameritech.net) (dbailey27@ameritech.net@68.74.12.68 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 07:37:20 -0000 Message-ID: <3F238F58.7000202@ameritech.net> From: northern snowfall User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020518 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] Anyone awake? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 03:37:44 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hey all, I went to a computer show tonight and found a MiniDIN8 -> DB25 cable for a Macintosh. Since my partner- in-crime is away mountain climbing, I have no idea how to set this up. Google searches only reveal documentation on setting up serial consoles on the server side, not the client side. I'm planning on using an IBM PC (either plan9 or UNIX) as the terminal. Can anyone give me any pointers on how to set this up? Since the cable is DB25, I'm lookin' at using my parallel port. Is that even possible, to simulate a serial console over the parallel? Or, am I looking at using another adapter to connect the parallel to serial? Thanks, as always, Don http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_ --upas-szkyriqwxqwjacvhkhowxaoenv-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 27 21:09:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 27 21:09:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 5694 invoked by uid 1020); 27 Jul 2003 21:09:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 5690 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 21:09:24 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 21:09:24 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E91F919C8F; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 08:09:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CB1A719B7C; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 08:09:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 28F2819BA3; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 08:08:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4BD4719B95 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 08:08:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] secstore passwords question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-tzopkcwacsxpizasgqzjwrjeik" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 08:08:39 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-tzopkcwacsxpizasgqzjwrjeik Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Our secstore server is still using a kfs, mostly because I've been too lazy to switch it over. It doesn't use a file server because the database is open to dictionary attack even though the protocol isn't. --upas-tzopkcwacsxpizasgqzjwrjeik Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Sun Jul 27 00:24:30 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Sun Jul 27 00:24:27 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1CACD19A00; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 00:24:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5EF4C19A00; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 00:24:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id AF7F919C7F; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 00:23:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C407219B5B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 00:23:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6R4N0eH019528 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 22:23:00 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6R4N03i019524 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 26 Jul 2003 22:23:00 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] secstore passwords question In-Reply-To: <3b45cf2a4f20a838b6c03a7c6f2cafd6@plan9.bell-labs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 22:23:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Sat, 26 Jul 2003, David Presotto wrote: > depends on how many machines you have. If secstored is running on a different > machine, then factotum will call it up when it starts and download the > keys. Otherwise, you can start secstore some time later and redirect its > output to the factotum/ctl. redirecting works, thanx... one more question: are the standalone secstore servers in use fossil or kfs machines, or are they connected to a file server for everything but the secstore? andrey --upas-tzopkcwacsxpizasgqzjwrjeik-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 27 22:34:43 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 27 22:34:43 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 7513 invoked by uid 1020); 27 Jul 2003 22:34:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 7509 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 22:34:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 22:34:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CC97B19B8C; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 09:34:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A5A1319AD5; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 09:34:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 16D5619B8C; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 09:33:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 57514199D9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 09:33:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from arrl.net (pcp085320pcs.arnysm01.nj.comcast.net[68.46.97.9](untrusted sender)) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003072713332501600b3lgoe>; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:33:25 +0000 Message-ID: <3F23D4EF.4090705@arrl.net> From: John DeGood User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Anyone awake? References: <3F238F58.7000202@ameritech.net> In-Reply-To: <3F238F58.7000202@ameritech.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 09:34:39 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Your Mac RS-232 port has typical voltage swings from -12 to +12 volts. Your PC parallel port is TTL logic with voltage swings from 0 to +5 volts. To electrically connect the 2 together you'd need a TTL -> RS-232 transceiver, otherwise you may smoke the PC's parallel port. Even if it doesn't smoke, it probably won't work without a transceiver. And then there's the matter of emulating a UART on the Plan 9 parallel port side, but of course that's easy because it's only software. :-) If you want to save yourself a lot of grief, construct or buy a DB25F to DB9F null modem cable. John northern snowfall wrote: > Hey all, > I went to a computer show tonight and found a > MiniDIN8 -> DB25 cable for a Macintosh. Since my partner- > in-crime is away mountain climbing, I have no idea how > to set this up. > > Google searches only reveal documentation on > setting up serial consoles on the server side, not the > client side. I'm planning on using an IBM PC (either plan9 > or UNIX) as the terminal. Can anyone give me any pointers > on how to set this up? > > Since the cable is DB25, I'm lookin' at using my > parallel port. Is that even possible, to simulate a serial > console over the parallel? Or, am I looking at using another > adapter to connect the parallel to serial? > > Thanks, as always, > > Don > > http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_ > > From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Sun Jul 27 22:47:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Sun Jul 27 22:47:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 7761 invoked by uid 1020); 27 Jul 2003 22:47:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 7757 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2003 22:47:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 22:47:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BF36919C94; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 09:47:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1C79119C87; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 09:47:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BB0E419C8A; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 09:46:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams004.ftl.affinity.com (lvs00-fl.valueweb.net [216.219.253.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EDF7819B32 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 09:46:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coma ([81.64.132.185]) by ams.ftl.affinity.com with SMTP id <216633-14461>; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 09:45:38 -0400 Message-ID: <006501c35445$56c91080$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <3F238F58.7000202@ameritech.net> <3F23D4EF.4090705@arrl.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] Anyone awake? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 15:45:27 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > If you want to save yourself a lot of grief, construct or buy a DB25F to > DB9F null modem cable. that's what i woulda thought, but assumed there was a good reason why it hadn't been done. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 28 01:33:23 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 28 01:33:23 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10881 invoked by uid 1020); 28 Jul 2003 01:33:05 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10877 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2003 01:33:04 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 01:33:04 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CB13619B6A; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 12:32:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5143D19C99; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 12:32:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C598219C99; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 12:31:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zephir.uk.clara.net (zephir.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.53]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 209A219B6A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 12:31:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from martin.althoff.claranet.co.uk ([213.253.17.40] helo=127.0.0.1) by zephir.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19goQy-000Mif-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 17:31:44 +0100 From: Martin Althoff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <47852750.20030727173144@tiscali.co.uk> To: "boyd, rounin" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re[2]: [9fans] Anyone awake? In-Reply-To: <006501c35445$56c91080$b9844051@insultant.net> References: <3F238F58.7000202@ameritech.net> <3F23D4EF.4090705@arrl.net> <006501c35445$56c91080$b9844051@insultant.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: "martin.althoff" List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 17:31:44 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) As posted earlier the hardware for parallel ports and serial ports is rather different. While it might be possible to hide that under a software layer might be doable, the elec-tricks might cause a problem when directly connecting them. Remembering PC (not mac) stone age times vaguely, there were serial ports (cards) that had DB25 connectors. Did the Mac ever use those? The difference to the parallel connector was in gender, though that was sometimes confused. A DIN8/DB25 adapter cable would make sense in that context as I believe mac's used DIN8 connectors quite early. I once owned a nifty connector cable that came with an early version of PC Anywhere (or something like that) which had each type of connector at either end to connect 2 serial or (!) 2 parallel port. From the memory chest.... Martin From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 28 01:44:46 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 28 01:44:46 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11203 invoked by uid 1020); 28 Jul 2003 01:44:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11199 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2003 01:44:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 01:44:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CB96C19CA5; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 12:44:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8FD5F19C99; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 12:44:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C8A8919C9B; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 12:43:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 40A0719B7D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 12:43:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: Re[2]: [9fans] Anyone awake? In-Reply-To: <47852750.20030727173144@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 12:43:51 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I'm a bit confused here. Is the DIN8 out of the Mac serial or parallel signalling? If it's serial then all you need (as has been pointed out), is a DB25 to DB9 converter, they cost practically nothing and we have boxes of them. There was a time when PCs came with one serial port DB9 and the other DB25. If I remember correctly (and the chances of that get slimmer each day) that is how we connected the NeXT up - there was a DIN8 to DB25 cable to which we attached either a DB25 to DB9 or a DB25 to RJ45 converter. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 28 02:07:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 28 02:07:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11616 invoked by uid 1020); 28 Jul 2003 02:07:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11612 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2003 02:07:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 02:07:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 165A319C99; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:07:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6EBD119C8D; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:07:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BA60419C99; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:06:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from edoras.nas.com (edoras.nas.com [206.63.100.8]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 00B7C19B40 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:06:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from max2-d33.nas.com (max2-d33.nas.com [206.63.102.162]) by edoras.nas.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AC26EBD4F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 10:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Re[2]: [9fans] Anyone awake? From: Jack Johnson To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1059325567.2759.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: 27 Jul 2003 10:06:08 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_XIMIAN version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Sun, 2003-07-27 at 09:43, jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote: > I'm a bit confused here. Is the DIN8 out of the Mac serial or > parallel signalling? If it's serial then all you need (as has been > pointed out), is a DB25 to DB9 converter, they cost practically > nothing and we have boxes of them. There was a time when PCs came > with one serial port DB9 and the other DB25. It should be serial. On ancient Macs, there was some minor hardware difference that would only allow LocalTalk over the "Printer" port, but that difference evaporated ages ago (though it wasn't an option to switch to the other port until OpenTransport came along). I just realized I know way more about that than I care to. Anyway, in the pre-USB Mac days you'd find that if you wanted an external modem, it would cost you another $20 over an external PC modem, and the only difference was the enclosed software and the cable. A PC modem and a random DIN8->DB25 cable would do the trick just as well. And, as mentioned before, similar scenarios with DB25 null-modem adapters or dumb terminals that support it will work just fine doing Mac <-> whatever serial data. If you have a used computer store in town (or work for an organization with a decent basement), you can usually find a dumb terminal pretty cheap, and I find it's easier to just keep one in the garage in case of emergency rather than deal with hunting down cables, a spare machine for serial configuration/debugging, etc. -Jack From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 28 02:17:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 28 02:17:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11856 invoked by uid 1020); 28 Jul 2003 02:17:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11852 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2003 02:17:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 02:17:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 989A019CB1; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:17:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8221219CA8; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:17:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id AA55F19CA2; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:16:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brahma.sdgm.net (brahma.sdgm.net [64.32.179.49]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F1D0A19CA1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:16:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <18aa645e56adc2992631a78ed709bdc0@sdgm.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: cross@sdgm.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] A small fix for nedmail. Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:16:27 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,PATCH_CONTEXT_DIFF version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) The help information in nedmail had a typo, and said `x' would both exit without synching, and synchronize the mailbox (really the job of `y'). Here's a context diff. - Dan C. brahma% ape/diff -c /n/sources/plan9/sys/src/cmd/upas/ned/nedmail.c nedmail.c *** /n/sources/plan9/sys/src/cmd/upas/ned/nedmail.c Sun Jun 15 14:52:38 2003 --- nedmail.c Sun Jul 27 13:12:24 2003 *************** *** 123,129 **** { "u", 0, ucmd, "u remove deletion mark" }, { "w", 1, wcmd, "w file store message contents as file" }, { "x", 0, xcmd, "x exit without flushing deleted messages" }, ! { "y", 0, ycmd, "x synchronize with mail box" }, { "=", 1, eqcmd, "= print current message number" }, { "|", 1, pipecmd, "|cmd pipe message body to a command" }, { "||", 1, rpipecmd, "|cmd pipe raw message to a command" }, --- 123,129 ---- { "u", 0, ucmd, "u remove deletion mark" }, { "w", 1, wcmd, "w file store message contents as file" }, { "x", 0, xcmd, "x exit without flushing deleted messages" }, ! { "y", 0, ycmd, "y synchronize with mail box" }, { "=", 1, eqcmd, "= print current message number" }, { "|", 1, pipecmd, "|cmd pipe message body to a command" }, { "||", 1, rpipecmd, "|cmd pipe raw message to a command" }, brahma% From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 28 03:00:56 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 28 03:00:56 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12623 invoked by uid 1020); 28 Jul 2003 03:00:55 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12619 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2003 03:00:54 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 03:00:54 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1A97F19CA0; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 14:00:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E90F7199B3; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 14:00:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6E58A19CAA; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:59:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp809.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp809.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.188]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 786DE19CA7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:59:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from adsl-68-74-12-68.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (HELO ameritech.net) (dbailey27@ameritech.net@68.74.12.68 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 17:59:39 -0000 Message-ID: <3F242137.4000801@ameritech.net> From: northern snowfall User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020518 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Anyone awake? References: <1059325567.2759.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 14:00:07 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA, X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Yeah, uhhh... My friends took me out for a night of pubs, last night for like the first time in a good 5 months. I returned properly toasted. Anyhoo, Skip quickly smacked me back into reality when he realized that I'd confused RS232 DB25 with IBMPC DB25 parallel ports. Woo hoo! :-/ Thank God I was too tired to try the parallel port thing, or I would have ended up frying something, hahaha. *However*, because of the ensuing confusion I caused with that post, I dont feel so damned bad about mucking up. Haha at you all, too! ;-) I think the problem is I've got a laplink cable when I just need a female -> female DB9 for the last segment of the connection. Then again... that DB25->DB9 thing may-or-may-not be a null modem. Bah, whatever, I'll go to Radio Shack later. Thanks for the help, none the less, all. Skip sent me a pretty cool website that "asserted" the "hey ya drunk bastard what do you think you're doin" pin in my brain. http://www.camiresearch.com/Data_Com_Basics/RS232_standard.html Don http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 28 03:11:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 28 03:11:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12841 invoked by uid 1020); 28 Jul 2003 03:11:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12837 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2003 03:11:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 03:11:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1FE5819CB9; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 14:11:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C05A119CB0; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 14:11:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 358FB19CAC; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 14:10:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cerberus.uk.clara.net (cerberus.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.103]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9270019991 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 14:10:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from martin.althoff.claranet.co.uk ([213.253.17.40] helo=127.0.0.1) by cerberus.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #3) id 19gpy9-000KHA-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 19:10:05 +0100 From: Martin Althoff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1616754609.20030727191005@tiscali.co.uk> To: northern snowfall <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re[2]: [9fans] Anyone awake? In-Reply-To: <3F242137.4000801@ameritech.net> References: <1059325567.2759.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <3F242137.4000801@ameritech.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: "martin.althoff" List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 19:10:05 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hello northern snowfall Hm, and if you came back toasted (or so..) you shouldn't mess with gombudas... 8*> cheerio, Martin From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 28 03:23:45 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 28 03:23:45 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13050 invoked by uid 1020); 28 Jul 2003 03:23:43 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13045 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2003 03:23:43 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 03:23:43 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id F2F7C19CC2; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 14:23:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C36B519CB5; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 14:23:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C672319CAF; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 14:22:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp802.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp802.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.181]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id E12F319CA1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 14:22:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from adsl-68-74-12-68.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (HELO ameritech.net) (dbailey27@ameritech.net@68.74.12.68 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Jul 2003 18:22:15 -0000 Message-ID: <3F24267E.3060608@ameritech.net> From: northern snowfall User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020518 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Anyone awake? References: <1059325567.2759.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <3F242137.4000801@ameritech.net> <1616754609.20030727191005@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 14:22:38 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA, X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > >Hm, and if you came back toasted (or so..) you shouldn't mess with >gombudas... > But, I was so excited to try my newly obtained cable!!! Can you blame me? I sure cant. Don http://www.7f.no-ip.com/~north_ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 28 03:31:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 28 03:31:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13173 invoked by uid 1020); 28 Jul 2003 03:31:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13169 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2003 03:31:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 03:31:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4496119CC5; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 14:31:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7E40C19CBA; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 14:31:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7D89A19CBA; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 14:30:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zephir.uk.clara.net (zephir.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.53]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B80C019CA1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 14:30:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from martin.althoff.claranet.co.uk ([213.253.17.40] helo=127.0.0.1) by zephir.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19gqHx-0008lr-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 19:30:33 +0100 From: Martin Althoff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1867981890.20030727193033@tiscali.co.uk> To: northern snowfall <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re[2]: [9fans] Anyone awake? In-Reply-To: <3F24267E.3060608@ameritech.net> References: <1059325567.2759.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <3F242137.4000801@ameritech.net> <1616754609.20030727191005@tiscali.co.uk> <3F24267E.3060608@ameritech.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: "martin.althoff" List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 19:30:33 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > But, I was so excited to try my newly obtained cable!!! > Can you blame me? I sure cant. Nah, I've clobbered so many systems in early morning sessions in similar states. Sometimes its just necessary to take that risk.... Good fun and practice to fix it all again later. Few minutes ago I saw sparks (!) flying when attempting to power on by short circuting the pwr on connectors... The board's still alive ... phew :) And I'm still hours away from a pint Martin From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 28 10:47:43 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 28 10:47:43 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 23817 invoked by uid 1020); 28 Jul 2003 10:47:41 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 23813 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2003 10:47:41 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 10:47:41 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4C76F19B6B; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 21:47:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2EC4E199D2; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 21:47:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EAFDB19B6B; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 21:46:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from einstein.ssz.com (unknown [207.200.56.4]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9B81B19B66 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 21:46:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ravage@localhost) by einstein.ssz.com (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h6S1ktv26796; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 20:46:55 -0500 From: Jim Choate To: Cc: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] [hangar18-general] Austin Weekly Social & Other Local Events (fwd) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 20:46:55 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.5 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_NJABL,RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_NJABL_OPEN_PROXY version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 20:38:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Jim Choate Reply-To: hangar18-general@open-forge.org To: hangar18-general@open-forge.org Cc: hell@einstein.ssz.com, austin-cpunks@einstein.ssz.com, open-science-general@open-forge.org Subject: [hangar18-general] Austin Weekly Social & Other Local Events Asymmetric Clustering... Distributed Name Space... Global Sign-on... Guerrilla Networking... Open Source Technology... Do these words make your heart beat faster and your breath go shallow? If so then perhaps you should become involved with Hangar 18. We are a tit-for-tat group of computer hobbyist of a wide range of skills intent on building the next computing infra-structure using Open Source technology. We don't focus on any one form of technology but instead focus on real world applications in grid or large scale distributed computing. Time: July 31, 2003 Last Thursday of each month, excluding national holidays, will be held at the Robot Group 7:00 - 9:00 pm (or later) http://open-forge.org Location: The Robot Group For directions please contact the Robot Group directly, per their request. http://robotgroup.net Identification: We'll be the group with the Plan 9 OS box on the table...;) Some other events worthy of note, - Thu. Aug. 15'th, 2003 will be the pool night. I'll be sending a note out in a couple of days with more detail. Feel free to bring some friends. We expect to play from 8pm to midnight. The H18 crew will pay for the first couple of tables (we're working out details still) and then any others will be by collection. It's something like $10/table-hour. - We've been working on the Plan 9 How To and we've managed to compile a kernel. It boots and then hangs at the GUI pretty much frozen (at least the mouse doesn't work). I've updated the Plan 9 info on the SSZ H18 homepage. http://einstein.ssz.com/hangar18 - I intend to begin experimenting with the first mail lists on the Plan 9 side, using mlmgr. This is a simple mail exploder but looks to be a good beginning for a more complicated project. I'm thinking of using it as a core for igor. - Is there any interest in a 1st Saturday Sale trip to Dallas for surplus and low-priced computer pieces and parts? The current target is Sept. please contact me directly. We'd probably try to hit the Fry's, at least one surplus store I know about, and maybe the museum in Ft. Worth. We'd probably leave Fri. afternoon/night. A couple of Half Prices as well. - We're looking for a working riding lawn mower for a Plan 9 based robot project. It's gotta have a engine in reasonable shape and the basic mechanism must work. We don't care about the paint, seat, etc. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 28 11:05:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 28 11:05:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 24616 invoked by uid 1020); 28 Jul 2003 11:05:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 24612 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2003 11:05:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 11:05:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C92FB19B69; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 22:05:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C33F519A82; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 22:05:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 68166199D4; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 22:04:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8DFB2199B6 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 22:04:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6S24YeH029313 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 20:04:34 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6S24YR6029309 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 20:04:34 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] [hangar18-general] Austin Weekly Social & Other Local Events (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 20:04:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) from the gentle introduction to plan9: ---------- [SSZ: We are stuck here, after debugging a incorrect video and network driver problem we recompiled the kernel and found that it would not ask for any sort of login, just went straight to a desktop where the mouse didn't work...] ---------- solution: 'echo blablabla > /dev/sd[CD][01]/nvram' to invalidate the nvram. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 28 13:02:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 28 13:02:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 30475 invoked by uid 1020); 28 Jul 2003 13:02:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 30471 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2003 13:02:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 13:02:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2931219B47; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 00:02:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 22DB219AC9; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 00:02:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A06B619A9E; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 00:01:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from einstein.ssz.com (unknown [207.200.56.4]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 71B4319A2F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 00:01:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ravage@localhost) by einstein.ssz.com (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h6S41tQ27584; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 23:01:55 -0500 From: Jim Choate To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Cc: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] Re: Austin Weekly Social & Other Local Events (fwd) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 23:01:55 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, RCVD_IN_NJABL,RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE, X_NJABL_OPEN_PROXY version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Sun, 27 Jul 2003, andrey mirtchovski wrote: > from the gentle introduction to plan9: > ---------- > [SSZ: We are stuck here, after debugging a incorrect video and network > driver problem we recompiled the kernel and found that it would > not ask for any sort of login, just went straight to a desktop > where the mouse didn't work...] > ---------- > > > solution: 'echo blablabla > /dev/sd[CD][01]/nvram' to invalidate the nvram. Geesh, we just got done doing that. Thanks. We'll give it a shot. Maybe we need to change where in the process we do that. We figured it was some sort of authority/security issue. -- ____________________________________________________________________ We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, "Plan 9 from Outer Space" ravage@ssz.com jchoate@open-forge.org www.ssz.com www.open-forge.org -------------------------------------------------------------------- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 28 13:17:49 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 28 13:17:49 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 31061 invoked by uid 1020); 28 Jul 2003 13:17:42 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 31057 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2003 13:17:37 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 13:17:37 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C00CE19B7C; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 00:17:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 44F4119B66; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 00:17:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5389419B6C; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 00:16:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailrelay2.lanl.gov (mailrelay2.lanl.gov [128.165.4.103]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 499FD19B4C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 00:16:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay2.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6S4GYr5021627 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 22:16:34 -0600 Received: from maxroach.lanl.gov (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id h6S4GYAO006453 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 22:16:34 -0600 From: ron minnich To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Anyone awake? In-Reply-To: <000a01c35424$480a5b60$b9844051@insultant.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.35 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 22:16:33 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Sun, 27 Jul 2003, boyd, rounin wrote: > > Since the cable is DB25, I'm lookin' at using my > > parallel port. Is that even possible, to simulate a serial > > console over the parallel? > > this doesn't sound very plausible, but you never know. it's doable but you don't want to do it. Get yerself from radio whack the standard serial db25/db9. Figure out how things are wired, and in general you're safing doing the usual: swap 2&3 pass 7 through Then you take your mac db9->db25 and your db25->db9 and you should be good. If modem controls seem like they're causing trouble let me know, there's a standard list of pins you tie together. ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 28 14:39:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 28 14:39:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 1928 invoked by uid 1020); 28 Jul 2003 14:39:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 1921 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2003 14:39:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 14:39:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id F1CE919B8D; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 01:39:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 00D0019B37; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 01:39:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A9CB119B37; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 01:38:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2F107199D4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 01:38:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6S5R3np008850 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 07:27:04 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h6S5R0lC008849 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 07:27:00 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: random moving of cursor arrow Message-ID: <20030728072659.B1666@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: <012c01c3528e$f861d2a0$b9844051@insultant.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: ; from David Presotto on Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 10:22:10PM -0400 Organization: Proxima Research & Development Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 07:26:59 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 10:22:10PM -0400, David Presotto wrote: > > I'll bang at serial ports tomorrow and see if I can figure out what's happening. > With modern machines, I shouldn't get overruns even without the fifo. I used > to avoid the fifo for mice because it made the mouse jerky. > Note that (in my recollection) the problem is more recent than the switch to the new driver. I have only recently migrated to an Intellimouse and then only on my workstation and the impression I get is that there has been a slowdown in the very recent past. It would be difficult for me to test this, but if we come up with no other option, I can set up a test bench. > Everything related has changed of course; uart driver, clock routine, and > scheduler. Any could be at fault. I'll plug some machines back to back and > see if I can cause overruns. A mouse really shouldn't be able to though, > it's only 9600 baud or less. If we're missing, something is really > screwed up. We only use ps2 mice these days but I can scrounge up some > serial ones. > I have only examined the actual driver. I couldn't see anything clearly suspicious in it. > It is true that if the mouse is misidentified, it will cause exactly the > behavior babic is seeing, i.e., if it guesses the wrong protocol. Yes, but then echo i1 > /dev/eia0ctl wouldn't have any ameliorating effect on it. ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 28 14:49:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 28 14:49:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 2380 invoked by uid 1020); 28 Jul 2003 14:49:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 2376 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2003 14:49:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 14:49:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1CCC019B9B; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 01:49:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E1FB819B08; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 01:49:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6F94719B4C; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 01:48:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E407719B37 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 01:48:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6S5ahnp008885 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 07:36:44 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h6S5age5008884 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 07:36:42 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: UART device driver (Was: [9fans] random moving of cursor arrow) Message-ID: <20030728073640.C1666@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: <20030725163518.Z28024@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <4e64a7709fe42fbfc4744c0171df28e2@plan9.bell-labs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: <4e64a7709fe42fbfc4744c0171df28e2@plan9.bell-labs.com>; from jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com on Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 01:50:56AM -0400 Organization: Proxima Research & Development Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 07:36:41 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 01:50:56AM -0400, jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote: > > If it's an ISA card then shared interrupts will not work. > It's engineered with a shared interrupt line and a status port (I did neglect to mention these earlier). I had it working very nicely under NetBSD but couldn't persuade the core team to let me put a null vector in the kernel interrupt table so that I could detect disabled ports. Since then, they have changed the I/O acccess so much I have no idea whether I could port the driver to it. > Use a line in plan9.ini for each port. Write a new driver (say > uartisa.c) with a pnp function which calls allocates the necessary > data structures and calls uarti8250alloc for each plan9.ini line, > say > uart0=type=i8250 port=XXX irq=Y > It seemed like the right idea as soon as I considered it. I can't quite figure out how the eia0=disabled line works in plan9.ini, but I need to look into this in more detail anyway. > See /sys/src/9/pc/uartpci.c for many clues. I will take a good look, I am quite curious about PCI-based serial devices. I haven't given them any attention yet. ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 28 15:01:55 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 28 15:01:55 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 2943 invoked by uid 1020); 28 Jul 2003 15:01:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 2939 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2003 15:01:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 15:01:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2B9CA19BA1; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 02:01:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B169919B21; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 02:01:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9BDEB19B21; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 02:00:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0ED5219A76 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 02:00:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6S5mcnp008923 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 07:48:39 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h6S5maxf008922 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 07:48:36 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] random moving of cursor arrow Message-ID: <20030728074834.D1666@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: <20030725104302.O28024@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <98c04f7f3b956c6344a100d18e2e6b26@plan9.bell-labs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: <98c04f7f3b956c6344a100d18e2e6b26@plan9.bell-labs.com>; from David Presotto on Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 11:59:30AM -0400 Organization: Proxima Research & Development Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 07:48:35 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 11:59:30AM -0400, David Presotto wrote: > > What does the word jangly mean? > > The new serial port device driver seems a bit jangly (Dave, is this > your doing?). > That it jangles? :-) :-) Sorry, I was referring to its behaviour rather than the code and, I hope I recall correctly, I also suggested later that the driver need not be solely responsible. Whatever slang I really ought to have used, I certainly did not intend any offense or implied any poor programming. ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 28 15:32:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 28 15:32:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 4578 invoked by uid 1020); 28 Jul 2003 15:32:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 4574 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2003 15:32:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 15:32:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B448419B82; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 02:32:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F3D2F19A21; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 02:32:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0A74119A91; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 02:31:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DBF9119A32 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 02:31:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6S6J5np008983 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 08:19:08 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h6S6Iw0t008982 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 08:18:58 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: random moving of cursor arrow Message-ID: <20030728081853.E1666@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: <012c01c3528e$f861d2a0$b9844051@insultant.net> <20030728072659.B1666@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: <20030728072659.B1666@cackle.proxima.alt.za>; from Lucio De Re on Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 07:26:59AM +0200 Organization: Proxima Research & Development Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 08:18:54 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 07:26:59AM +0200, Lucio De Re wrote: > > > Note that (in my recollection) the problem is more recent than the > switch to the new driver. I have only recently migrated to an > Intellimouse and then only on my workstation and the impression I > get is that there has been a slowdown in the very recent past. It > would be difficult for me to test this, but if we come up with no > other option, I can set up a test bench. > Oops, what I meant(and left out!) was that mostly I use serial mice, I only have one PS/2 mouse. In fact, I can even compare the two on the same hardware. ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 28 18:00:47 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 28 18:00:47 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10718 invoked by uid 1020); 28 Jul 2003 18:00:46 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10714 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2003 18:00:45 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 18:00:45 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CF98419A64; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 05:00:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9C0A919AA2; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 05:00:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E543E19AA2; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 04:59:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 22B8C19A6F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 04:59:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19h3gk-0002x3-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 09:49:02 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Ralph Corderoy Message-ID: <1064.3f2242e3.bedc3@blake.inputplus.co.uk> Organization: InputPlus Ltd. References: <8094c5486230a87031c84cbcb873866c@vitanuova.com>, <5d6d2e6816f4cad3c83e828f8683e9ab@collyer.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] text utility Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 08:47:55 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi Geoff, > awk '{print NR, $0}' | sort -nr | sed 's/^[0-9]+ //' That's what I use, except `cat -n' instead of having awk deal with each line. Cheers, -- Ralph Corderoy. http://inputplus.co.uk/ralph/ http://troff.org/ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 28 18:01:03 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 28 18:01:03 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10743 invoked by uid 1020); 28 Jul 2003 18:01:02 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10739 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2003 18:01:02 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 18:01:02 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2FF9C19A7D; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 05:00:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A55A319A6F; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 05:00:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1EB8219AA2; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 04:59:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3564B19A6F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 04:59:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19h3gk-0002wx-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 09:49:02 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: "Douglas A. Gwyn" Message-ID: Organization: University of Bath Computing Services, UK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <29ce300d69819f673d96bbd7d9ae9302@vitanuova.com>, <016601c35353$10db3be0$b9844051@insultant.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: random moving of cursor arrow Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 08:47:43 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) boyd, rounin wrote: > iirc, from the dz-kmc days you needed to manage the 'fifo' so it wouldn't > overrun, but at the same time you needed a timer to empty it [stick on the rawq] > so stuff just didn't get 'stuck'. No, the problem arises when people try to set the input alarm threshold at more than 1 character. In the case of the DZ11 the right thing to do was to interrupt on any incoming character and after processing (putting in the queue) wait a tiny bit for the FIFO to trickle down then test for another ready character, and if found don't return (context switch) but instead go back to the start of the intr function and process the character. My driver did that, and on a PDP-11/34 we had a couple of dozen concurrent users of 9600bpi terminals with great response. I have a KMC11B sitting around, and some day I'll look into whatever problems there might have been. The idea of a front- end processor was right, even if the implementation wasn't. > how much time have i wasted with rs-232 junk? too much. However, it's as near to universal as one can get, even today. I have a paper tape reader and an Apple IIGS attached to my PCs via RS-232-C. (The magtape is on SCSI.) From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 28 18:01:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 28 18:01:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10752 invoked by uid 1020); 28 Jul 2003 18:01:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10748 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2003 18:01:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 18:01:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9ED1619980; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 05:01:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EEB6719AFC; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 05:01:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C710A19AFC; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 05:00:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from juice.thebigchoice.com (pc1-nott2-3-cust18.nott.cable.ntl.com [80.4.204.18]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id E9DCF19A7D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 05:00:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8193 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2003 09:00:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO proweb.co.uk) (192.168.1.100) by juice.thebigchoice.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 09:00:44 -0000 Message-ID: <3F24E63C.6010407@proweb.co.uk> From: matt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] random moving of cursor arrow References: <30a28313307c9b5b3fdb6455a2f17f20@plan9.bell-labs.com> In-Reply-To: <30a28313307c9b5b3fdb6455a2f17f20@plan9.bell-labs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:00:44 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) David Presotto wrote: >I'm still confused. What does it mean for a mouse to be harsh-sounding, >inharmonious, and discordant? Well, I guess in acme, discordant might >have a meaning. > inharmonious - you move it left, cursor goes right From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Mon Jul 28 18:03:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Mon Jul 28 18:03:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10796 invoked by uid 1020); 28 Jul 2003 18:03:25 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10792 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2003 18:03:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 28 Jul 2003 18:03:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6E0CD19C71; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 05:03:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 38851199E6; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 05:03:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7761B19B9C; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 05:02:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from larch (unknown [195.173.15.12]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3806619B21 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 05:02:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <9bda4fbc4f28078a603160af8bd88e4c@yourdomain.dom> From: steve.simon@snellwilcox.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] dual-boot 9 on a laptop standalone In-Reply-To: <1207692333@snellwilcox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-gpkzmrhztwirocsfvfkmluddxx" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:02:31 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-gpkzmrhztwirocsfvfkmluddxx Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I use a a PII 400Mhz laptop at home which I dual boot NT4.0 and Plan9 on. I use a 3Com 3c589 10BaseT Ether PCMCIA. Web browsing, you can use mothra (very small but very few features), or load inferno and run charon - which is pretty complete these days, no flash or realplayer though. The disk layout sounds OK, Plan9 cannot access NTFS partitions (correct me if I'am wrong) but it cann modify your c: fat so you get a blue-screen boot option for plan9, and it will read/write files on the C: partition so you can pass data to win2K. Alternatively you could use vmware though that costs. -Steve (with a minus :-) --upas-gpkzmrhztwirocsfvfkmluddxx Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 00:58:04 +0100 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu bcc: "Steve Simon" From: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Sender: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Importance: normal Priority: normal Subject: [9fans] dual-boot 9 on a laptop standalone Message-Id: <1207692333@snellwilcox.com> X-MIME-Engine: v0.90 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Id: <1207692333-1@snellwilcox.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable After a long hiatus, I'm thinking about trying Plan9 on my primary computing device, a Toshiba Tecra 8100 with a Xircom Cardbus Ethernet II 10/100 NIC. My old PCs, which I had collected for running Plan9 services, are turned off. They are back in their boxes, and are gathering dust. I'll probably ditch them soon. But what about just running on a laptop by itself for tinkering with Plan9 filesytems and development tools, reading mail, and surfing the web? If I dual-boot, I can run Win2k at work and Plan9 at home, right? 1. Will I be happy without any other Plan9 systems in my life? I presume the Wiki talks about how to live standalone. I presume I can tinker with filesystem servers running on the laptop and mapping them there. 2. I have a Win2k install that looks like this: [C:\ FAT boot partition] [logical slices for Linux] [D:\ NTFS Win2k partition] Can I back it all up with ntbackup and restore it after repartitioning for Plan9? I want Win2k on D:\WINNT so all my apps will continue working. 3. What are my choices for web browsing these days? 4. Will the Xircom work? Any other words of wisdom would be appreciated. Thanks, Steve --upas-gpkzmrhztwirocsfvfkmluddxx-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 29 00:51:55 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 29 00:51:55 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20351 invoked by uid 1020); 29 Jul 2003 00:51:44 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20347 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 00:51:43 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 00:51:43 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 95B7A19AC7; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:51:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 48D6619A8E; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:51:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E784E19AAA; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:50:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web40403.mail.yahoo.com (web40403.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.78.100]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 2692919A6D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:50:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20030728155036.42572.qmail@web40403.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.210.205.143] by web40403.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 08:50:36 PDT From: "A. 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SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 29 04:35:49 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 29 04:35:49 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 24057 invoked by uid 1020); 29 Jul 2003 04:35:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 24053 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 04:35:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 04:35:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6802819AB4; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 15:35:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B695A19A86; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 15:35:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8F31719A86; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 15:34:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams003.ftl.affinity.com (lvs00-fl.valueweb.net [216.219.253.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B882719A31 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 15:34:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coma ([81.64.132.185]) by ams.ftl.affinity.com with SMTP id <220564-19470>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 15:33:27 -0400 Message-ID: <004b01c3553f$171bbbe0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: [9fans] seemlai/vwhois Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 21:33:14 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) is this some sort of bug that i can only have one vwhois 'pending' at a time? i suspect it's a bug, but i haven't investigated too much, but i have a bad feeling about the for (;;) loop in: /sys/src/cmd/faces/plumb.c in nextface() i shall investigate it a bit later. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 29 05:48:38 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 29 05:48:38 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 25512 invoked by uid 1020); 29 Jul 2003 05:48:37 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 25508 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 05:48:37 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 05:48:37 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 41C5519ABF; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:48:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9758119A6D; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:48:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 56C7219A6D; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:47:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 60D9819A2A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:47:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6SKlleH031226 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:47:47 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6SKll5e031222 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:47:47 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] cron authentication Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:47:47 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I got asked today to explain how exactly auth servers, factotum and secstore work together, and I think I did a pretty good job at it, until I was asked how authentication proxies (such as cron) would work in Plan 9. My question is, exactly how does Plan 9's cron work? Does it keep a set of keys for the different users it speaks for? I can see from the source that cron does the following dance: fork() ... become andrey call auth_proxy as andrey open factotum/rpc ... normal authentication ... run rexec as andrey ... exit() but where does it get the key to authenticate? The archives show this old mail from the time when, presumably, factotum was still in development: > [snip] For example, I can have a hostagent > running on my terminal that brokers all authentication for my processes, > even ones on cpu servers. However, when making calls out from a cpu > server, I still have to trust the owner of that cpu server to be running > a system that does what my processes ask it to. Hence, I'm trusting the > host owner making him a super-user of sorts. However, the sphere of trust > can be much more arbitrariy and egocentric and I like that. > Cron in such a system becomes much harder. The cron process has to > possess some of my private keys in order to do it's job. I could > limit its ability by certifying scripts that it runs but that's more > work. However, I think I'm going to bite the bullet and do it. Does cron possess this set of private keys? andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 29 06:16:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 29 06:16:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 26423 invoked by uid 1020); 29 Jul 2003 06:16:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 26419 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 06:16:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 06:16:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id F339F19A86; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 17:16:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CFF6E19A7B; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 17:16:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9C04819A31; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 17:15:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams003.ftl.affinity.com (lvs00-fl.valueweb.net [216.219.253.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C5C0F199D7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 17:15:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coma ([81.64.132.185]) by ams.ftl.affinity.com with SMTP id <221363-19472>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 17:14:14 -0400 Message-ID: <006201c3554d$2c3ace40$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <004b01c3553f$171bbbe0$b9844051@insultant.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] seemlai/vwhois MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 23:14:02 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) err, the subject should have read: seemail/vwhois ----- Original Message ----- > is this some sort of bug that i can only have one vwhois 'pending' > at a time? i suspect it's a bug, but i haven't investigated too much, > but i have a bad feeling about the for (;;) loop in: > > /sys/src/cmd/faces/plumb.c > > in nextface() > > i shall investigate it a bit later. > From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 29 06:45:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 29 06:45:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 26958 invoked by uid 1020); 29 Jul 2003 06:45:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 26953 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 06:45:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 06:45:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D462719AE7; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 17:45:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AC81919A6F; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 17:45:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B780B19A6D; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 17:44:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DA54419A66 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 17:44:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6SLiZeH031373 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 15:44:35 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6SLiZev031369 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 15:44:35 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] cron authentication In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 15:44:35 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I believe I figured it out after a bit of experimenting with it. What threw me off originally was the fact that I could run auth/cron on non-auth cpu servers without any problem, however I realized that the factotum for the host owner knew how to authenticate to the auth server, and had the proper capabilities to become me... at least it stopped working when I deleted the keys from the cpu server's factotum :) by the way, do you think that it's a bad idea to give secstore access to a cpu server's hostowner? andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 29 07:00:51 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 29 07:00:51 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27275 invoked by uid 1020); 29 Jul 2003 07:00:40 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27271 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 07:00:39 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 07:00:39 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 760FE19A7B; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:00:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 36D9B19A6C; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:00:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5E73219A6F; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 17:59:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from collyer.net (dnspac16.collyer.net [63.192.14.226]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6D21D19A25 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 17:59:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4e9a248eadf51083ac5d918159014eda@collyer.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] text utility From: Geoff Collyer In-Reply-To: <1064.3f2242e3.bedc3@blake.inputplus.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:58:58 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Of course "cat -n" is almost as evil as "cat -v" (-v has a sublanguage) and doesn't work on Plan 9: cpu% cat -n cat: can't open -n: '-n' directory entry not found One could use "pr -tn" instead of the little awk script, but the difference in speed really isn't that great. Reading a cached ~2.5MB file of ~250K lines, cpu% time awk '{print NR, $0}' test >/dev/null 2.85u 0.13s 3.53r awk {print NR, $0} test cpu% time pr -tn test >/dev/null 1.75u 0.13s 2.18r pr -tn test From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 29 08:12:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 29 08:12:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 28638 invoked by uid 1020); 29 Jul 2003 08:12:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 28634 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 08:12:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 08:12:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 299F719AE0; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:12:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 15B3819A6D; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:12:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 93B0419A75; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:11:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brahma.sdgm.net (brahma.sdgm.net [64.32.179.49]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 01C3619A1E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:11:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <41205239135f8d976dcde3f1a14e97ee@sdgm.net> From: boyd@sdgm.net To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] vwhois fix Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:11:23 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) this would appear to be a reasonable hack to get vwhois to plumb to seemail as much as you like: brahma% diff /n/sources/plan9/rc/bin vwhois 5c5 < plumb -dseemail -a 'filetype=vwhois digest=poot mailtype=new sender='^$i /mail/fs/mbox/XXX --- > plumb -dseemail -a 'filetype=vwhois digest='$i.$pid' mailtype=new sender='^$i /mail/fs/mbox/XXX i tested it with: rc -x ./vwhois `{awk -F: '{print $2}' /adm/users} From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 29 09:16:47 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 29 09:16:47 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 30566 invoked by uid 1020); 29 Jul 2003 09:16:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 30562 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 09:16:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 09:16:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6B7F819AD2; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 20:16:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 07D1619A6D; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 20:16:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 831BA19AA0; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 20:15:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brahma.sdgm.net (brahma.sdgm.net [64.32.179.49]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 92A2219A75 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 20:15:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: boyd@sdgm.net To: fixes@sdgm.net, 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] nedmail.c Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 20:15:02 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,PATCH_CONTEXT_DIFF version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) this includes dan's fix and i've added a function so it pluralises message/messages correctly. diff follows: brahma% ape/diff -c /n/sources/plan9/sys/src/cmd/upas/ned nedmail.c *** /n/sources/plan9/sys/src/cmd/upas/ned/nedmail.c Sun Jun 15 14:52:38 2003 --- nedmail.c Mon Jul 28 20:05:26 2003 *************** *** 123,129 **** { "u", 0, ucmd, "u remove deletion mark" }, { "w", 1, wcmd, "w file store message contents as file" }, { "x", 0, xcmd, "x exit without flushing deleted messages" }, ! { "y", 0, ycmd, "x synchronize with mail box" }, { "=", 1, eqcmd, "= print current message number" }, { "|", 1, pipecmd, "|cmd pipe message body to a command" }, { "||", 1, rpipecmd, "|cmd pipe raw message to a command" }, --- 123,129 ---- { "u", 0, ucmd, "u remove deletion mark" }, { "w", 1, wcmd, "w file store message contents as file" }, { "x", 0, xcmd, "x exit without flushing deleted messages" }, ! { "y", 0, ycmd, "y synchronize with mail box" }, { "=", 1, eqcmd, "= print current message number" }, { "|", 1, pipecmd, "|cmd pipe message body to a command" }, { "||", 1, rpipecmd, "|cmd pipe raw message to a command" }, *************** *** 191,196 **** --- 191,205 ---- noted(NDFLT); } + char * + plural(int n) + { + if (n == 1) + return ""; + + return "s"; + } + void main(int argc, char **argv) { *************** *** 270,276 **** n = dir2message(&top, reverse); if(n < 0) sysfatal("can't read %s", s_to_c(top.path)); ! Bprint(&out, "%d messages\n", n); } notify(catchnote); --- 279,285 ---- n = dir2message(&top, reverse); if(n < 0) sysfatal("can't read %s", s_to_c(top.path)); ! Bprint(&out, "%d message%s\n", n, plural(n)); } notify(catchnote); *************** *** 1152,1158 **** i = 0; for(; m != nil; m = m->next) i++; ! Bprint(&out, "%d messages\n", i); } Message* --- 1161,1167 ---- i = 0; for(; m != nil; m = m->next) i++; ! Bprint(&out, "%d message%s\n", i, plural(i)); } Message* *************** *** 1488,1494 **** Bprint(&out, "!1 message deleted\n"); break; default: ! Bprint(&out, "!%d messages deleted\n", deld); break; } --- 1497,1503 ---- Bprint(&out, "!1 message deleted\n"); break; default: ! Bprint(&out, "!%d message%s deleted\n", deld, plural(deld)); break; } *************** *** 1569,1575 **** n = dir2message(&top, reverse); if(n > 0) ! Bprint(&out, "%d new messages\n", n); return m; } --- 1578,1584 ---- n = dir2message(&top, reverse); if(n > 0) ! Bprint(&out, "%d new message%s\n", n, plural(n)); return m; } From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 29 12:12:43 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 29 12:12:43 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 5826 invoked by uid 1020); 29 Jul 2003 12:12:41 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 5822 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 12:12:41 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 12:12:41 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E8C6619AFB; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 23:12:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EB7F119A6D; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 23:12:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9B9F319A6D; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 23:11:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7F4FF19A67 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 23:11:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0cbd0735d6fe745e6fa6fc33e20a1ca2@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: random moving of cursor arrow In-Reply-To: <20030728072659.B1666@cackle.proxima.alt.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-xyvmgjsjsaugilhddwzdnicdme" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 23:11:37 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-xyvmgjsjsaugilhddwzdnicdme Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I tried a bundh of scenarios on some computers I had at work. Nothing I did would keep my 400 MHz system from losing characters on the serial driver if I ran my cdrom full tilt and used > 38400 buad. At or under 38400, turning on the fifo was enough, though I still saw one or two overruns over the course of 15 minutes. There's clearly something about the cdrom driver that's staying at splhi way too long or causing back to back interrupts that keep the serial interrupts from sneaking in. At 9600 baud down (which is where the mouse should live), turning on the fifo worked 100% of the time. The serial driver (at least from interrupt to mouse stream interpretation) is not fundamentally different now than in the 3rd edition. If the same mouse hardware works with the 3rd edition and loses chars with the 4th I'm moderately flabergasted. For straight (non-mouse) serial ports, there is one difference: the 3rd ed had much smaller queues and turned off RTS fairly often, effectively reducing the port throughput to a fraction of what it was really set to. It might be that this was avoiding overruns. I need to figure out a way to do the same thing when the computer really can't keep up. That should get rid of the overruns for things like PPP. Won't effect mice since I believe that they ignore hardware flow control, at least the ones I have do. The current aux/mouse on sources turns on the fifo. --upas-xyvmgjsjsaugilhddwzdnicdme Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Mon Jul 28 01:39:30 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Mon Jul 28 01:39:28 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B734E19B8B; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 01:39:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6A51719AAB; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 01:39:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A9CB119B37; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 01:38:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2F107199D4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 01:38:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6S5R3np008850 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 07:27:04 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h6S5R0lC008849 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 07:27:00 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: random moving of cursor arrow Message-ID: <20030728072659.B1666@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: <012c01c3528e$f861d2a0$b9844051@insultant.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: ; from David Presotto on Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 10:22:10PM -0400 Organization: Proxima Research & Development Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 07:26:59 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 10:22:10PM -0400, David Presotto wrote: > > I'll bang at serial ports tomorrow and see if I can figure out what's happening. > With modern machines, I shouldn't get overruns even without the fifo. I used > to avoid the fifo for mice because it made the mouse jerky. > Note that (in my recollection) the problem is more recent than the switch to the new driver. I have only recently migrated to an Intellimouse and then only on my workstation and the impression I get is that there has been a slowdown in the very recent past. It would be difficult for me to test this, but if we come up with no other option, I can set up a test bench. > Everything related has changed of course; uart driver, clock routine, and > scheduler. Any could be at fault. I'll plug some machines back to back and > see if I can cause overruns. A mouse really shouldn't be able to though, > it's only 9600 baud or less. If we're missing, something is really > screwed up. We only use ps2 mice these days but I can scrounge up some > serial ones. > I have only examined the actual driver. I couldn't see anything clearly suspicious in it. > It is true that if the mouse is misidentified, it will cause exactly the > behavior babic is seeing, i.e., if it guesses the wrong protocol. Yes, but then echo i1 > /dev/eia0ctl wouldn't have any ameliorating effect on it. ++L --upas-xyvmgjsjsaugilhddwzdnicdme-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 29 12:23:48 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 29 12:23:48 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 6278 invoked by uid 1020); 29 Jul 2003 12:23:37 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 6273 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 12:23:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 12:23:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2C53019B08; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 23:23:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CC2DA19A6C; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 23:23:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4940819A6C; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 23:22:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 56AF1199D4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 23:22:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6T3MCeH032011 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 21:22:12 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6T3MC9Q032007 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 21:22:12 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] how (not) to use an auth server for authentication (and other factotum tales) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 21:22:12 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Plan 9 surprised me today for the first time ever -- I tried to cpu to one of the servers as bootes, and ended up there as andrey! couple of hours and some severe mangling with factotum and secstore I found out the problem: normal setup: node1 has the following entries in ctl (names slightly changed to protect the innocent): proto=p9sk1 dom=outside.cs.bell-labs user=andrey !password=someotherpass proto=p9sk1 dom=ucalgary user=bootes !password=bootespass node2 has the following entries: proto=p9sk1 dom=outside.cs.bell-labs user=andrey !password=someotherpass proto=p9sk1 dom=ucalgary user=bootes !password=bootespass this set-up worked well until I changed the dom= entry from 'ucalgary' to something else. trying to cpu from node2 to node1 made me log in as 'andrey'. I believe the sequence of events is as follows: 1. node2 attempts to authenticate to node1 2. it fails to find a correct dom= entry for it 3. selects the next entry matching the protocol (p9sk1) and tries to authenticate with it 4. because both factotums have the correct entry it just automagically works... here's how it looks with debugging on: 1: start proto=p9any role=client yields phase CNeedProtos: ok 1: read 4093 in phase CNeedProtos yields phase CNeedProtos: phase: protocol phase error: read in state CNeedProtos 1: write 0 in phase CNeedProtos yields phase CNeedProtos: toosmall 2048 1: start proto=p9sk1 role=client dom=outside.cs.bell-labs.com yields phase CHaveChal: ok 1: write 31 in phase CNeedProtos yields phase CHaveProto: ok (if you can't recreate this i'll show you the complete log, together with CRelay: ok and whatnot) ------------- the second issue I have to report is probably a feature, but I'd be very glad if someone can explain it properly: a Plan 9 user logs in to a cpu server with drawterm (sounds like a joke, doesn't it? "a bulgarian walks in a bar carrying a napkin..." :). this user, without starting auth/factotum is able to login to every other machine from the same authentication domain: plan9% cat /mnt/factotum/ctl plan9% cpu -h plan9 plan9% one would expect not to be able to log in anywhere if no keys show up in factotum, or there's no factotum running. cheers, andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 29 13:08:06 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 29 13:08:06 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 7896 invoked by uid 1020); 29 Jul 2003 13:07:42 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 7867 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 13:07:41 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 13:07:41 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E896019B0D; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 00:07:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6588A19AFC; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 00:07:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D686C19AFC; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 00:06:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C8E4319AF2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 00:06:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <953d403b8ad56bd6ec80efa5111a6d28@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] how (not) to use an auth server for authentication (and other factotum tales) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-sjcenjnvwgrxbyclvtsyvjdogo" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 00:06:38 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-sjcenjnvwgrxbyclvtsyvjdogo Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You got it. Loading p9sk1/2 entries for multiple users into a factotum is not a good idea. --upas-sjcenjnvwgrxbyclvtsyvjdogo Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Mon Jul 28 23:23:32 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Mon Jul 28 23:23:29 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8AE9019AF9; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 23:23:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3985019A6D; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 23:23:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4940819A6C; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 23:22:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 56AF1199D4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 23:22:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6T3MCeH032011 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 21:22:12 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6T3MC9Q032007 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 21:22:12 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] how (not) to use an auth server for authentication (and other factotum tales) Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 21:22:12 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Plan 9 surprised me today for the first time ever -- I tried to cpu to one of the servers as bootes, and ended up there as andrey! couple of hours and some severe mangling with factotum and secstore I found out the problem: normal setup: node1 has the following entries in ctl (names slightly changed to protect the innocent): proto=p9sk1 dom=outside.cs.bell-labs user=andrey !password=someotherpass proto=p9sk1 dom=ucalgary user=bootes !password=bootespass node2 has the following entries: proto=p9sk1 dom=outside.cs.bell-labs user=andrey !password=someotherpass proto=p9sk1 dom=ucalgary user=bootes !password=bootespass this set-up worked well until I changed the dom= entry from 'ucalgary' to something else. trying to cpu from node2 to node1 made me log in as 'andrey'. I believe the sequence of events is as follows: 1. node2 attempts to authenticate to node1 2. it fails to find a correct dom= entry for it 3. selects the next entry matching the protocol (p9sk1) and tries to authenticate with it 4. because both factotums have the correct entry it just automagically works... here's how it looks with debugging on: 1: start proto=p9any role=client yields phase CNeedProtos: ok 1: read 4093 in phase CNeedProtos yields phase CNeedProtos: phase: protocol phase error: read in state CNeedProtos 1: write 0 in phase CNeedProtos yields phase CNeedProtos: toosmall 2048 1: start proto=p9sk1 role=client dom=outside.cs.bell-labs.com yields phase CHaveChal: ok 1: write 31 in phase CNeedProtos yields phase CHaveProto: ok (if you can't recreate this i'll show you the complete log, together with CRelay: ok and whatnot) ------------- the second issue I have to report is probably a feature, but I'd be very glad if someone can explain it properly: a Plan 9 user logs in to a cpu server with drawterm (sounds like a joke, doesn't it? "a bulgarian walks in a bar carrying a napkin..." :). this user, without starting auth/factotum is able to login to every other machine from the same authentication domain: plan9% cat /mnt/factotum/ctl plan9% cpu -h plan9 plan9% one would expect not to be able to log in anywhere if no keys show up in factotum, or there's no factotum running. cheers, andrey --upas-sjcenjnvwgrxbyclvtsyvjdogo-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 29 16:37:45 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 29 16:37:45 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 16905 invoked by uid 1020); 29 Jul 2003 16:37:43 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 16896 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 16:37:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 16:37:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1DCC219B40; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 03:37:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0AE6B19B1D; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 03:37:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5062819B23; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 03:36:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from klastr1.icpf.cas.cz (klastr1.icpf.cas.cz [147.231.137.254]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4291B19A26 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 03:36:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from klastr1.icpf.cas.cz (klastr1.icpf.cas.cz [147.231.137.254]) by klastr1.icpf.cas.cz (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6T7geH30895 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:42:41 +0200 From: sasa To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] input methods for non-ascii languages Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:42:40 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) hi planiners! this is especially question to japanese, russian, greek etc. users. i'd like to see some sources of programs that make possible to input unicode characters in different way instead of the default input method (ALT+some keys) in plan9. can you show me some links to papers, sources?! thanx9. sasa babic (babic@icpf.cas.cz) From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 29 16:56:49 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 29 16:56:49 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 17739 invoked by uid 1020); 29 Jul 2003 16:56:37 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 17735 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 16:56:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 16:56:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 67FAF19A67; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 03:56:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5D40D19B1D; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 03:56:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6594D19B37; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 03:55:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3714519A67 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 03:55:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <041be4c552db949ebb99317cf62f1ca4@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] input methods for non-ascii languages From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:56:15 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > this is especially question to japanese, russian, greek etc. users. > i'd like to see some sources of programs that make possible > to input unicode characters in different way You can down load ktrans from http://basalt.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp/plan9/s39.html. Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 29 17:04:40 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 29 17:04:40 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 18054 invoked by uid 1020); 29 Jul 2003 17:04:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 18050 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 17:04:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 17:04:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 460E119B51; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 04:04:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CCED919B2D; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 04:04:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6B85619B3E; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 04:03:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from klastr1.icpf.cas.cz (klastr1.icpf.cas.cz [147.231.137.254]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 68D0819B37 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 04:03:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from klastr1.icpf.cas.cz (klastr1.icpf.cas.cz [147.231.137.254]) by klastr1.icpf.cas.cz (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6T89IH30899 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:09:18 +0200 From: sasa To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] Re: Re: input methods for non-ascii languages Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:09:17 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) thanx9 kenji. that's exactly what i need. domo. sasa. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 29 18:58:40 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 29 18:58:40 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21433 invoked by uid 1020); 29 Jul 2003 18:58:39 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21429 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 18:58:38 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 18:58:38 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6051319B57; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 05:58:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2130D19B46; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 05:58:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3A959199BC; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 05:57:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 046A3199B9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 05:57:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: Re: input methods for non-ascii languages From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 18:58:03 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > thanx9 kenji. > that's exactly what i need. Let me add an one suggestion here. You must have $usr/lib/ktrans-jisho, even if you are not going to use Japanese. If you need it only for Greek or Russian, fogive me. Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 29 19:45:52 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 29 19:45:52 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 22393 invoked by uid 1020); 29 Jul 2003 19:45:40 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 22389 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 19:45:40 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 19:45:40 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 558AA19B70; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 06:45:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AFF9719A26; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 06:45:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 80DD819B3E; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 06:44:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailnw.centurytel.net (mailnw.centurytel.net [209.206.160.237]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A184D199F0 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 06:44:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from laptopvmw.9netics.com ([64.91.109.37]) by mailnw.centurytel.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6TAiUp2005038 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 03:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <0488901b9c79a39ff7a6284c92c17653@centurytel.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] input methods for non-ascii languages From: "Skip Tavakkolian" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 03:44:41 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > i'd like to see some sources of programs that make possible > to input unicode characters in different way instead of the > default input method (ALT+some keys) in plan9. > can you show me some links to papers, sources?! I don't know if this would also be relevant, but you can check 'nemo' directory on sources for devkbmap stuff. If you are setup to get to sources, you'll find it here: /n/sources/nemo/sys/src/9/pc Otherwise look for 'Sources Extras' under 'Additional Software' at the Labs. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 29 20:30:50 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 29 20:30:50 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 23943 invoked by uid 1020); 29 Jul 2003 20:30:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 23939 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 20:30:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 20:30:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B397C19B75; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:30:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 56E3019B37; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:30:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DD5A219B46; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:29:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams004.ftl.affinity.com (lvs00-fl.valueweb.net [216.219.253.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0886819A0B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:29:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coma ([81.64.132.185]) by ams.ftl.affinity.com with SMTP id <223226-20167>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:29:46 -0400 Message-ID: <010c01c355c4$af2cb6c0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <0488901b9c79a39ff7a6284c92c17653@centurytel.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] input methods for non-ascii languages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:29:32 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I don't know if this would also be relevant, but you can check > 'nemo' directory on sources for devkbmap stuff. If you are setup > to get to sources, you'll find it here: that stuff is based on the fact that you have a keyboard that allows you to type the characters directly. well, i should make myself clear: all pc keyboards generate the same scan codes for the the same key (modulo weirdness) but the keytops have different symbols on them. eg: where a us keyboard would have qwerty i have azerty. when typing either sequence the same set of scan codes is generated. to make it more difficult not all of the characters can be typed directly; to get ę [ê] i have to type ^ then e. japanese is a special case 'cos it has 4 character sets: - hiragana [phonetic set for japanese words] - katakana [phonetic set for foreign words] - kanji [the ideographs] - romaji [romanised representation] i've seen numerous systems and keyboards for doing this and other things (the various japanese on 9fans know better than i, obviously) and it's pretty nasty. some keyboards have the kana imposed on a qwerty keyboard and you use a 'shift' key to get at them. for typing the kanji, well the system i like is that you type the stem of the pronounciation and you then cycle through a set of ideographs until the one you want turns up. i'm not sure, but there should be no reason why such a system couldn't sort them by frequency, on a personalised basis. iirc the basic set of kanji is around 800, then there's a jump to 2000 and most newspapers use around 6000. reading them is hard enough, but in writing them you have to remember the 'stroke order', not some random set of strokes that will get you the character (this goes for the kana as well, but they are simple). From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 29 21:01:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 29 21:01:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 24484 invoked by uid 1020); 29 Jul 2003 21:01:38 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 24480 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 21:01:37 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 21:01:37 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id AB5B219B8B; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 08:01:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CC24119B46; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 08:01:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8F43819B7E; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 08:00:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from klastr1.icpf.cas.cz (klastr1.icpf.cas.cz [147.231.137.254]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 87C8A19B46 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 08:00:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from klastr1.icpf.cas.cz (klastr1.icpf.cas.cz [147.231.137.254]) by klastr1.icpf.cas.cz (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6TC6KH30971 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 14:06:20 +0200 From: sasa To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] input methods for non-ascii languages Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 14:06:20 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) i'm interested in the path from keyboard scan code to rune and to UTF-8. kenji helped me with his sources. sasa. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 29 21:21:43 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 29 21:21:43 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 24985 invoked by uid 1020); 29 Jul 2003 21:21:38 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 24981 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 21:21:37 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 21:21:37 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4B36619BA0; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 08:21:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4C22619B96; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 08:21:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 045D119B7E; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 08:20:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 023D8199B7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 08:20:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <60dd568491e43f8b733ddd04f15cd129@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] input methods for non-ascii languages In-Reply-To: <010c01c355c4$af2cb6c0$b9844051@insultant.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-tznywhkeomszxbjfcoayfwgwnv" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 08:20:05 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-tznywhkeomszxbjfcoayfwgwnv Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Some years back I saw a grammar based editor at Sony. It allowed you to type a sentence in romaji and it would display a romaji/kanji/kana representation of the sentence at the bottom of the screen. Since it 'understood' the sentence, by the time you got to the end of the sentence, it had a pretty high probability of having it right. You could then tab over to any word and cycle through hiragana, katakana, romaji and the possible kanji equivs. Of course, as you fixed each word, it could be changing all of the unfixed part to match. I'ld hate to think how much code was behind it. --upas-tznywhkeomszxbjfcoayfwgwnv Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Tue Jul 29 07:30:31 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Tue Jul 29 07:30:29 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1C98E19A0B; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:30:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0224119A0B; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:30:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DD5A219B46; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:29:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams004.ftl.affinity.com (lvs00-fl.valueweb.net [216.219.253.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0886819A0B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:29:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coma ([81.64.132.185]) by ams.ftl.affinity.com with SMTP id <223226-20167>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:29:46 -0400 Message-ID: <010c01c355c4$af2cb6c0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <0488901b9c79a39ff7a6284c92c17653@centurytel.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] input methods for non-ascii languages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:29:32 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I don't know if this would also be relevant, but you can check > 'nemo' directory on sources for devkbmap stuff. If you are setup > to get to sources, you'll find it here: that stuff is based on the fact that you have a keyboard that allows you to type the characters directly. well, i should make myself clear: all pc keyboards generate the same scan codes for the the same key (modulo weirdness) but the keytops have different symbols on them. eg: where a us keyboard would have qwerty i have azerty. when typing either sequence the same set of scan codes is generated. to make it more difficult not all of the characters can be typed directly; to get =EA [ê] i have to type ^ then e. japanese is a special case 'cos it has 4 character sets: - hiragana [phonetic set for japanese words] - katakana [phonetic set for foreign words] - kanji [the ideographs] - romaji [romanised representation] i've seen numerous systems and keyboards for doing this and other things (the various japanese on 9fans know better than i, obviously) and it's pretty nasty. some keyboards have the kana imposed on a qwerty keyboard and you use a 'shift' key to get at them. for typing the kanji, well the system i like is that you type the stem of the pronounciation and you then cycle through a set of ideographs until the one you want turns up. i'm not sure, but there should be no reason why such a system couldn't sort them by frequency, on a personalised basis. iirc the basic set of kanji is around 800, then there's a jump to 2000 and most newspapers use around 6000. reading them is hard enough, but in writing them you have to remember the 'stroke order', not some random set of strokes that will get you the character (this goes for the kana as well, but they are simple). --upas-tznywhkeomszxbjfcoayfwgwnv-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 29 21:24:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 29 21:24:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 25150 invoked by uid 1020); 29 Jul 2003 21:24:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 25146 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 21:24:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 21:24:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6E30A19B99; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 08:24:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CF43219B37; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 08:24:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 848E419B66; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 08:23:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id ADC27199B7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 08:23:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <802efdf308d1c7afb75c8cccc2477699@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] input methods for non-ascii languages In-Reply-To: <0488901b9c79a39ff7a6284c92c17653@centurytel.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-zvjlcowhubgffqzrezmhezwdxr" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 08:23:24 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-zvjlcowhubgffqzrezmhezwdxr Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dmr had done a kbd daemon in the past that lets you type romaji and cycle each caracter word through different representations. It wasn't as nice as the Sony system but it was better than typing lots of alts. You might ask him for the code and make it work in the current world. You'ld have to mount on top of the keyboard to make it work. --upas-zvjlcowhubgffqzrezmhezwdxr Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Tue Jul 29 06:45:35 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Tue Jul 29 06:45:32 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8C0E119B75; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 06:45:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5CC8D199F0; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 06:45:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 80DD819B3E; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 06:44:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailnw.centurytel.net (mailnw.centurytel.net [209.206.160.237]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A184D199F0 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 06:44:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from laptopvmw.9netics.com ([64.91.109.37]) by mailnw.centurytel.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6TAiUp2005038 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 03:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <0488901b9c79a39ff7a6284c92c17653@centurytel.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] input methods for non-ascii languages From: "Skip Tavakkolian" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 03:44:41 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > i'd like to see some sources of programs that make possible > to input unicode characters in different way instead of the > default input method (ALT+some keys) in plan9. > can you show me some links to papers, sources?! I don't know if this would also be relevant, but you can check 'nemo' directory on sources for devkbmap stuff. If you are setup to get to sources, you'll find it here: /n/sources/nemo/sys/src/9/pc Otherwise look for 'Sources Extras' under 'Additional Software' at the Labs. --upas-zvjlcowhubgffqzrezmhezwdxr-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 29 22:10:38 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 29 22:10:38 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 26476 invoked by uid 1020); 29 Jul 2003 22:10:37 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 26472 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 22:10:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 22:10:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 23DD019BA6; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:10:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0776E19B97; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:10:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 25A1A19B7E; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:09:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 421AA199FD for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:09:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <40eeeecbdff2d304a7278844bb644d62@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] A small fix for nedmail. In-Reply-To: <18aa645e56adc2992631a78ed709bdc0@sdgm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-vamarzehjurtmcyipkmkicngxl" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:09:10 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,PATCH_CONTEXT_DIFF version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-vamarzehjurtmcyipkmkicngxl Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit this and boyd's plaralization fixes are in. --upas-vamarzehjurtmcyipkmkicngxl Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Sun Jul 27 13:17:31 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Sun Jul 27 13:17:28 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 92AE019CAA; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:17:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 239E819CA1; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:17:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id AA55F19CA2; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:16:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brahma.sdgm.net (brahma.sdgm.net [64.32.179.49]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F1D0A19CA1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:16:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <18aa645e56adc2992631a78ed709bdc0@sdgm.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: cross@sdgm.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] A small fix for nedmail. Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:16:27 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,PATCH_CONTEXT_DIFF version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) The help information in nedmail had a typo, and said `x' would both exit without synching, and synchronize the mailbox (really the job of `y'). Here's a context diff. - Dan C. brahma% ape/diff -c /n/sources/plan9/sys/src/cmd/upas/ned/nedmail.c nedmail.c *** /n/sources/plan9/sys/src/cmd/upas/ned/nedmail.c Sun Jun 15 14:52:38 2003 --- nedmail.c Sun Jul 27 13:12:24 2003 *************** *** 123,129 **** { "u", 0, ucmd, "u remove deletion mark" }, { "w", 1, wcmd, "w file store message contents as file" }, { "x", 0, xcmd, "x exit without flushing deleted messages" }, ! { "y", 0, ycmd, "x synchronize with mail box" }, { "=", 1, eqcmd, "= print current message number" }, { "|", 1, pipecmd, "|cmd pipe message body to a command" }, { "||", 1, rpipecmd, "|cmd pipe raw message to a command" }, --- 123,129 ---- { "u", 0, ucmd, "u remove deletion mark" }, { "w", 1, wcmd, "w file store message contents as file" }, { "x", 0, xcmd, "x exit without flushing deleted messages" }, ! { "y", 0, ycmd, "y synchronize with mail box" }, { "=", 1, eqcmd, "= print current message number" }, { "|", 1, pipecmd, "|cmd pipe message body to a command" }, { "||", 1, rpipecmd, "|cmd pipe raw message to a command" }, brahma% --upas-vamarzehjurtmcyipkmkicngxl-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 29 22:11:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 29 22:11:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 26546 invoked by uid 1020); 29 Jul 2003 22:11:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 26542 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 22:11:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 22:11:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4C50319BA8; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:11:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BCE0519B90; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:11:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2DF4519B86; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:10:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 602D019B97 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:10:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0c0d9fc6ebb5d689352d6f24e2dd4d23@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] vwhois fix In-Reply-To: <41205239135f8d976dcde3f1a14e97ee@sdgm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-lakaqncvsnbfcutrmgayjxzfgb" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:10:14 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-lakaqncvsnbfcutrmgayjxzfgb Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit done --upas-lakaqncvsnbfcutrmgayjxzfgb Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Mon Jul 28 19:12:26 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Mon Jul 28 19:12:23 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8183819AD0; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9617F19A75; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:12:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 93B0419A75; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:11:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brahma.sdgm.net (brahma.sdgm.net [64.32.179.49]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 01C3619A1E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:11:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <41205239135f8d976dcde3f1a14e97ee@sdgm.net> From: boyd@sdgm.net To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] vwhois fix Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:11:23 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) this would appear to be a reasonable hack to get vwhois to plumb to seemail as much as you like: brahma% diff /n/sources/plan9/rc/bin vwhois 5c5 < plumb -dseemail -a 'filetype=vwhois digest=poot mailtype=new sender='^$i /mail/fs/mbox/XXX --- > plumb -dseemail -a 'filetype=vwhois digest='$i.$pid' mailtype=new sender='^$i /mail/fs/mbox/XXX i tested it with: rc -x ./vwhois `{awk -F: '{print $2}' /adm/users} --upas-lakaqncvsnbfcutrmgayjxzfgb-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 29 22:25:38 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 29 22:25:38 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 26923 invoked by uid 1020); 29 Jul 2003 22:25:37 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 26919 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 22:25:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 22:25:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 193EE19BAC; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:25:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9ABC219B90; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:25:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C025019B96; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:24:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E67E719B39 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:24:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: Re[2]: [9fans] MBR and nvidia hangups In-Reply-To: <842125109.20030722205750@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-ahzzhtttffaqxvjyikapjlvrnd" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:24:32 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-ahzzhtttffaqxvjyikapjlvrnd Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry, about that. My mom got sick and I got distracted. I'll get back to it today. --upas-ahzzhtttffaqxvjyikapjlvrnd Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Tue Jul 22 15:58:24 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Tue Jul 22 15:58:21 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id F278819B6F; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 15:58:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4759D19A26; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 15:58:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DA34919A32; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 15:57:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zephir.uk.clara.net (zephir.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.53]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 379EA19A26 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 15:57:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from martin.althoff.claranet.co.uk ([213.253.17.40] helo=127.0.0.1) by zephir.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19f3Gf-0000ew-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 20:57:49 +0100 From: Martin Althoff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <842125109.20030722205750@tiscali.co.uk> To: Rob Ristroph <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re[2]: [9fans] MBR and nvidia hangups In-Reply-To: <87ptk2ed3o.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> References: <85bf5959ad5584a766212d53ca7e2447@plan9.bell-labs.com> <87ptk2ed3o.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: "martin.althoff" List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 20:57:50 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) David>> I'll find a new way to do an experimental diskette tonight and David>> ask people to try it out. I think I've fixed the mbr problem > Cool ! I'll find time for a round of testing Wednesday or Thursday. Same on my part! Just rigged up another system without case... Ehmm... David, where do (will) I find that diskette? 'xcuse my newbieishness... cheers, Martin --upas-ahzzhtttffaqxvjyikapjlvrnd-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 29 22:30:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 29 22:30:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27131 invoked by uid 1020); 29 Jul 2003 22:30:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27127 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 22:30:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 22:30:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E5A7819B90; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:30:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9508319B39; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:30:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0EE4519B9F; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:29:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EF90B19B90 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:29:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <87e2705fdc6fae972a6978aa5e984195@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: Re[2]: [9fans] MBR and nvidia hangups In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-jrjvnsegtwwtnddncjwhfjrzaj" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:29:24 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-jrjvnsegtwwtnddncjwhfjrzaj Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oops, I didn't mean to send that to the list. Sorry and thanks for the support. --upas-jrjvnsegtwwtnddncjwhfjrzaj Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Tue Jul 29 09:25:31 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Tue Jul 29 09:25:29 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C349119BA5; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:25:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5F0A419B39; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:25:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C025019B96; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:24:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E67E719B39 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:24:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: Re[2]: [9fans] MBR and nvidia hangups In-Reply-To: <842125109.20030722205750@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-ahzzhtttffaqxvjyikapjlvrnd" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:24:32 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-ahzzhtttffaqxvjyikapjlvrnd Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry, about that. My mom got sick and I got distracted. I'll get back to it today. --upas-ahzzhtttffaqxvjyikapjlvrnd Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Tue Jul 22 15:58:24 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Tue Jul 22 15:58:21 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id F278819B6F; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 15:58:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4759D19A26; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 15:58:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DA34919A32; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 15:57:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zephir.uk.clara.net (zephir.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.53]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 379EA19A26 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 15:57:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from martin.althoff.claranet.co.uk ([213.253.17.40] helo=127.0.0.1) by zephir.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19f3Gf-0000ew-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 20:57:49 +0100 From: Martin Althoff X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <842125109.20030722205750@tiscali.co.uk> To: Rob Ristroph <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re[2]: [9fans] MBR and nvidia hangups In-Reply-To: <87ptk2ed3o.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> References: <85bf5959ad5584a766212d53ca7e2447@plan9.bell-labs.com> <87ptk2ed3o.fsf@rgristroph-austin.ath.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: "martin.althoff" List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 20:57:50 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) David>> I'll find a new way to do an experimental diskette tonight and David>> ask people to try it out. I think I've fixed the mbr problem > Cool ! I'll find time for a round of testing Wednesday or Thursday. Same on my part! Just rigged up another system without case... Ehmm... David, where do (will) I find that diskette? 'xcuse my newbieishness... cheers, Martin --upas-ahzzhtttffaqxvjyikapjlvrnd-- --upas-jrjvnsegtwwtnddncjwhfjrzaj-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 29 22:50:45 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 29 22:50:45 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 27892 invoked by uid 1020); 29 Jul 2003 22:50:38 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 27888 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 22:50:38 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 22:50:38 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E95A419B7E; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:50:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2660019B46; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:50:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0B74C19B7E; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:49:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from myasci.pvk.cz (nat.pvk.cz [193.85.147.142]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9DF5F19A26 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:49:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from myasci.pvk.cz (myasci [127.0.0.1]) by myasci.pvk.cz (8.12.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id h6TDnVHM002261; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 15:49:31 +0200 Received: (from erikj@localhost) by myasci.pvk.cz (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h6TDnUjh002259; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 15:49:30 +0200 From: Erik Jahn To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Cc: fixes@sdgm.net Subject: [9fans] drawterm - connection from linux Message-ID: <20030729134930.GC2527@myasci.pvk.cz> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: erikj@volny.cz List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 15:49:30 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hello, could you please help me to setup Plan 9 machine to access it from linux via drawterm ? I have installed yesterday one Plan 9 machine but i have no possibility to work on that machine all day (although i wish ;-)) so i need to connect it from my linux workstation on our local network. I've downloaded drawterm-linux but i don't know how to setup Plan 9 machine and if there is need to setup on the linux side. When i try it writes: can't dial tcp!192.168.111.200!17013: connect 192.168.111.200!17013 failed: Connection refused. I tried to look over the inet but i found just install under Vmware. Thank you for your help E.Jahn From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 29 22:53:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 29 22:53:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 28130 invoked by uid 1020); 29 Jul 2003 22:53:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 28125 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 22:53:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 22:53:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1E15B19BB8; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:53:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9AC2219B46; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:53:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8F71519BAA; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:52:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0558819B86 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:52:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <44b52c4a79602f8a11da7b30259f3516@plan9.bell-labs.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] drawterm - connection from linux From: Sape Mullender In-Reply-To: <20030729134930.GC2527@myasci.pvk.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:52:34 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Hello, could you please help me to setup Plan 9 machine to access it from > linux via drawterm ? You certainly should run aux/listen to be able to connect into your machine from the outside. Try service=cpu aux/listen tcp and then try to drawterm to it. Sape From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 29 22:56:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 29 22:56:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 28252 invoked by uid 1020); 29 Jul 2003 22:56:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 28248 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 22:56:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 22:56:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8235119BB4; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:56:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 619B019B46; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:56:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1DF5619B97; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:56:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3180A19A66 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:55:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6TDtseH000409 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:55:54 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6TDtrGN000405 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:55:53 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] drawterm - connection from linux In-Reply-To: <20030729134930.GC2527@myasci.pvk.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:55:53 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Here is your starting point: http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/Configuring_a_standalone_CPU_server/index.html In fact, all the other Wiki pages are quite useful too. andrey On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Erik Jahn wrote: > Hello, could you please help me to setup Plan 9 machine to access it from > linux via drawterm ? I have installed yesterday one Plan 9 machine but i > have no possibility to work on that machine all day (although i wish ;-)) so > i need to connect it from my linux workstation on our local network. I've > downloaded drawterm-linux but i don't know how to setup Plan 9 machine and > if there is need to setup on the linux side. When i try it writes: can't > dial tcp!192.168.111.200!17013: connect 192.168.111.200!17013 failed: > Connection refused. I tried to look over the inet but i found just install > under Vmware. > > Thank you for your help > > E.Jahn > From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Tue Jul 29 23:00:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Tue Jul 29 23:00:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 28271 invoked by uid 1020); 29 Jul 2003 23:00:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 28267 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 23:00:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 23:00:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A14DC19BBE; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:00:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7BCB819B46; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:00:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2E07E19B97; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:59:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail1.vol.cz (webmail1.vol.cz [195.250.155.194]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2A0A519A66 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:59:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail1.vol.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webmail1.vol.cz (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6TDx3TT083775 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 15:59:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from erikj@volny.cz) Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail1.vol.cz (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h6TDx3v9083774; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 15:59:03 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: webmail1.vol.cz: www set sender to erikj@volny.cz using -f MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [9fans] drawterm - connection from linux From: erikj@volny.cz To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Message-ID: X-Mailer: Volny.cz Webmail2 1.29 X-Originating-Ip: 193.85.147.142 X-Originating-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030225 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 15:59:03 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_MIMEOLE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,NO_REAL_NAME, X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hello, could you please help me to setup Plan 9 machine to access it from linux via drawterm ? I have installed yesterday one Plan 9 machine but i have no possibility to work on that machine all day (although i wish ;-)) so i need to connect it from my linux workstation on our local network. I've downloaded drawterm-linux but i don't know how to setup Plan 9 machine and if there is need to setup on the linux side. When i try it writes: can't dial tcp!192.168.111.200!17013: connect 192.168.111.200!17013 failed: Connection refused. I tried to look over the inet but i found just install under Vmware. Thank you for your help E.Jahn --=20 Hork=E9 l=E9to s VOLN=DD: Vyhraj Ford s klimatizac=ED! 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Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:47:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from glenda.corp.google.com (none@glenda.corp.google.com [10.3.18.97]) by 216-239-45-4.google.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6TEllCc022999 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:47:47 -0700 Message-ID: <99aa04dd7ad1d6871bf9e6c515b4f4fc@google.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: "Rob 'Commander' Pike" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] sig Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:47:47 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) inspired by rog's tweak to lookman, which didn't quite do what i want, i wrote a little script to extract function signatures from the man pages: % sig string auth_respond Point string(Image *dst, Point p, Image *src, Point sp, Font *f, char *s) int auth_respond(void *chal, uint nchal, char *user, uint nuser, void *resp, uint nresp, AuthGetkey *getkey, char *fmt, ...); % i show it below. presotto has installed an earlier version, soon to be updated, on sources. you'll also want to sync against sources because the draw(2) man page had a silliness that stopped sig working right on it, which is also fixed there. enjoy -rob #!/bin/rc # Usage: sig key ... # prints out function signatures by grepping the manual *=`{echo $*|tr A-Z a-z|tr -dc 'a-z0-9_ \012'} # fold case, delete funny chars if(~ $#* 0){ echo Usage: sig function ... >/fd/2 exit 1 } for (i) { files=`{grep -l '[ ]\*?'$i'\(' /sys/man/2/*} for(j in $files) { {echo .nr LL 20i; sed -n '/^.SH SYNOPSIS/,/^.SH.*DESCR/p' $j } | sed 's/[ ]+/ /g;s/^ +//;/^\.nf/d' | nroff -man | grep -i -e '[ ]\*?'$i'\(' | sed 's/^[ +]/ /' } } exit 0 From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 00:04:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 00:04:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 30826 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 00:04:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 30822 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 00:04:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 00:04:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E893419BCC; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:04:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9F8E219B66; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:04:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CA2E519B41; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:03:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 47A3819B66 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:03:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] power pc port Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:03:14 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Sape consolidated our various powerpc ports and updated the code to sources '/sys/src/9/power'. 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From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 00:23:46 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 00:23:46 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 31449 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 00:23:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 31445 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 00:23:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 00:23:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 962C619BCA; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:23:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A7E9619B66; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:23:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6A09919B66; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:22:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 673FB19BB1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:22:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19hW62-0001Z3-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:09:02 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Anthony Mandic Message-ID: <3F2686CC.3A108AAC@hotmail.com> Organization: Mandic Consulting Pty. Ltd. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <0488901b9c79a39ff7a6284c92c17653@centurytel.net>, <010c01c355c4$af2cb6c0$b9844051@insultant.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] input methods for non-ascii languages Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 15:07:19 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,SEMIFORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) "boyd, rounin" wrote: > japanese is a special case 'cos it has 4 character sets: > > - hiragana [phonetic set for japanese words] > - katakana [phonetic set for foreign words] These two could be considered to be different cases for the same syllabic sound. So they'd be something akin to upper and lower case in European character sets (although I don't know how they are actually generated on Japanese keyboards, I had thought it might be by using the shift key). Hence one character set. > - kanji [the ideographs] > - romaji [romanised representation] > > i've seen numerous systems and keyboards for doing this > and other things (the various japanese on 9fans know better > than i, obviously) and it's pretty nasty. > > some keyboards have the kana imposed on a qwerty keyboard > and you use a 'shift' key to get at them. > > for typing the kanji, well the system i like is that you type the > stem of the pronounciation and you then cycle through a > set of ideographs until the one you want turns up. i'm > not sure, but there should be no reason why such a > system couldn't sort them by frequency, on a personalised > basis. I recall seeing a science show on the (Australian) ABC a few years back where a team from an Australian university came up with using the numeric keypad and working off stroke order. Since Chinese characters have specific strokes and a stroke order, they claimed it was easy to assign the strokes to the numeric keys and let the computer determine the character from the stroke order. I don't know what became of this method - perhaps it just never took off. > iirc the basic set of kanji is around 800, then there's a jump > to 2000 and most newspapers use around 6000. > > reading them is hard enough, but in writing them you have > to remember the 'stroke order', not some random set of > strokes that will get you the character (this goes for the > kana as well, but they are simple). Stroke order isn't too hard and easy to learn once you get the hang of it. Its fairly natural actually. What I found to be hard was getting the correct pronunciation of the kanji. Since you had On and Kun etc. it wasn't easy. -am © 2003 From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 00:52:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 00:52:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 32006 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 00:52:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 32002 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 00:52:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 00:52:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3E5B119BD0; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:52:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A975619B9F; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:52:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C8833199D5; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:51:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 17941199DB for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:51:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26959 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:51:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h6TFpL727029 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:51:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307291551.h6TFpL727029@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Dan Cross Subject: [9fans] Rob Pike and Glenn Danzig? The hidden conspiracy revealed at last.... Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:51:21 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Today, I noticed something for perhaps the fifth time, yet it only just registered. While listening to the strains of, ``TV Casualty'', I happened to glance at the back of the Misfits album I was listening to (Legacy of Brutality, highly recommended if you have the means), and spot a familiar looking bit of text highly reminiscent of our favorite operating system: ``plan 9'' appears in the lower center portion of the back of the CD jewel box. Now, why is this? Could it be that Rob Pike and Glenn Danzig were colluding on operating systems research at the time? Did Rob somehow financed or otherwise influenced the musical direction of the Misfits? Granted, they came well before Plan 9 from Bell Labs, but still, some clues in the lyrics are striking. Consider this line from, ``where eagles dare'': ``We walk the streets at night, we go where eagles dare!'' Indeed, hasn't Plan 9 gone where eagles dare in terms of pushing some simple primitives to their limits? Coincidence? I think not. - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 01:03:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 01:03:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 32233 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 01:03:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 32229 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 01:03:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 01:03:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9FEE519BCF; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:03:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A6C0919BAE; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:03:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A32D619BAE; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:02:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0C51919A28 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:02:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28395 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:02:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h6TG2K727089 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:02:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307291602.h6TG2K727089@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] sig In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:47:47 PDT." <99aa04dd7ad1d6871bf9e6c515b4f4fc@google.com> From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:02:20 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) "Rob 'Commander' Pike" writes: > > [...] Commander? What, did you join the Navy or something? - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 01:03:48 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 01:03:48 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 32241 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 01:03:47 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 32237 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 01:03:47 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 01:03:47 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E4B7F19BE0; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:03:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 56BAE19BD4; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:03:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8036D19BAE; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:02:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from einstein.ssz.com (unknown [207.200.56.4]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4020819A28 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:02:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ravage@localhost) by einstein.ssz.com (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h6TG3Un16655 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:03:30 -0500 From: Jim Choate To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Rob Pike and Glenn Danzig? The hidden conspiracy revealed at last.... In-Reply-To: <200307291551.h6TFpL727029@augusta.math.psu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:03:30 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, RCVD_IN_NJABL,RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE, X_NJABL_OPEN_PROXY version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Dan Cross wrote: > Today, I noticed something for perhaps the fifth time, yet it only just > registered. While listening to the strains of, ``TV Casualty'', I > happened to glance at the back of the Misfits album I was listening to > (Legacy of Brutality, highly recommended if you have the means), and > spot a familiar looking bit of text highly reminiscent of our favorite > operating system: ``plan 9'' appears in the lower center portion of > the back of the CD jewel box. > > Now, why is this? Could it be that Rob Pike and Glenn Danzig were > colluding on operating systems research at the time? Did Rob somehow > financed or otherwise influenced the musical direction of the Misfits? > Granted, they came well before Plan 9 from Bell Labs, but still, some > clues in the lyrics are striking. Consider this line from, ``where > eagles dare'': ``We walk the streets at night, we go where eagles > dare!'' Indeed, hasn't Plan 9 gone where eagles dare in terms of > pushing some simple primitives to their limits? > > Coincidence? I think not. I've seen this on other albums as well. There is also a band called "Plan 9". -- ____________________________________________________________________ We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, "Plan 9 from Outer Space" ravage@ssz.com jchoate@open-forge.org www.ssz.com www.open-forge.org -------------------------------------------------------------------- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 01:14:35 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 01:14:35 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 32421 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 01:14:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 32417 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 01:14:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 01:14:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 34E5F19BDA; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:14:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5D60819BB1; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:14:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 265FC19BB1; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:13:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7828719B97 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:13:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Rob Pike and Glenn Danzig? The hidden conspiracy revealed at last.... In-Reply-To: <200307291551.h6TFpL727029@augusta.math.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:13:42 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) For those of us used to getting into the car and being surprised by what comes out of WFMU (often bizarre, always unexpected) the following CD is recommended. odd nosdam [lower case] has a new CD out - "No More Wig for Ohio" which is getting some airplay (at least, on one of the radio stations I listen to). MH209: odd nosdam - plan 9... meat your hypnotis. Mush is proud to reissue odd nosdam's debut 'plan 9... meat your hypnotis.' Originally released on limited a number of hand made cassettes and disributed entirely through the internet and tape trading, 'plan 9' was created using only a Dr. Sample, an ancient Tascam 8-Track, and a beat up Teac cassette deck. It can be argued that it was due to this limitation, rather than in spite of it, that nosdam cultivated a style that caught the ear of Doseone and why? leading to the formation of the trio cLOUDDEAD. Fifty-five short but sweet tracks of lower than lo-fi sonic mud, 'plan 9's seventy-one minutes document the emergence of the trademark nosdam production style. Of course, all of the original clicks, pops, tape noise, and hiss have been kept beautifully in tact. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 01:35:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 01:35:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 512 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 01:35:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 507 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 01:35:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 01:35:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6451719BE1; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:35:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5DAEE19B97; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:35:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5260419BB7; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:34:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 901BD19B39 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:34:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4b5afb74f399e57bd8c123746c233c27@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] power pc port In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-dobqsczpdktgshhiengvtzidrs" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:34:37 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-dobqsczpdktgshhiengvtzidrs Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Arghh. As people pointed out, /sys/src/9/power is a bad choice because it clashes with the old sgi stuff that we don't support but others might still be using. I renamed it to /sys/src/9/ppc. --upas-dobqsczpdktgshhiengvtzidrs Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Tue Jul 29 11:04:35 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Tue Jul 29 11:04:33 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0B74919BC9; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:04:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 049E719B41; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:04:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CA2E519B41; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:03:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 47A3819B66 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:03:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] power pc port Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:03:14 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Sape consolidated our various powerpc ports and updated the code to sources '/sys/src/9/power'. Cheers. --upas-dobqsczpdktgshhiengvtzidrs-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 02:26:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 02:26:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 1566 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 02:26:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 1562 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 02:26:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 02:26:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3167219BD4; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:26:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B47F019B5C; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:26:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D32B019992; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:25:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rapido.vitanuova.com (unknown [62.254.170.97]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7051719992 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:25:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <705a83eceaab3660ff85a8d46a8f96f1@vitanuova.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: rog@vitanuova.com In-Reply-To: <99aa04dd7ad1d6871bf9e6c515b4f4fc@google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] spam script Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 18:28:50 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) while we're on the subject of shell scripts, if anyone is interested in building up a spam file with a view to training a bayesian filter or somesuch, here's a script that makes it easier. i haven't installed a filter yet, but i've accumulated 15MB of spam in a month and a half... it works under acme Mail; just highlight some messages and execute "spam" (assuming that's what you've named the script); alternatively execute "spam" within a message window. unfortunately it's unable to delete the messages automatically and currently it assumes it's dealing with /mail/fs/mbox. cheers, rog. PS. it was a bit of an effort to get the current selection of an acme window from within a script; it would make things easier if: - the id of the current acme window was available as well as its tag filename; - the addr file didn't revert back to its default state when the ctl file was closed; - the data file provided only the number of characters selected by the address. ... but maybe these are important properties, i dunno. #!/bin/rc rfork n fn save { {echo From spam; cat $1; echo} >> $home/spam } fn saveselected { cd $1 {echo 'addr=dot' > ctl; x=`{cat}} < addr msgs=`{>[2] /dev/null dd -count 1 -bs `{echo $x(2) $x(1) -p | dc} < data | sed -e '/^ /d' -e 's/^\(deleted\)-//' -e 's:/.*::'} for(i in $msgs) save /mail/fs/mbox/$i/raw } if(~ $#* 0 && ~ $#% 1){ if(~ $% /mail/fs/mbox/){ poss=`{awk '{print $1, $6}' < /mnt/acme/index | grep '^[0-9]+ /mail/fs/mbox/$'} if(! ~ $#poss 2){ echo no acme window found exit nope } saveselected /mnt/acme/$poss(1) } if not if(test -f $%/raw) save $%/raw } if not for(i in $*){ save /mail/fs/mbox/$i/raw } From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 02:52:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 02:52:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 1940 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 02:52:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 1936 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 02:52:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 02:52:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 95D1519A23; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:52:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 260CC19B5C; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:52:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DE1A719B5C; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:51:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pali.cps.cmich.edu (pali.cps.cmich.edu [141.209.169.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2AE0519A23 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:51:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pali.cps.cmich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pali.cps.cmich.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6THe9Ov022512 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:40:09 -0400 Received: from localhost (ishwar@localhost) by pali.cps.cmich.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6THe7YR022508 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:40:07 -0400 From: Ishwar Rattan To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> In-Reply-To: <32987a381a6dd9037ee880078b7f5b3d@plan9.escet.urjc.es> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] VMWare workstation-4.0? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:40:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Is there any 'howo-to' for installing a cpu/auth server on this simulated machine? -ishwar From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 03:27:46 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 03:27:46 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 2479 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 03:27:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 2474 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 03:27:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 03:27:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1426919B97; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 14:27:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5CB0C19BB1; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 14:27:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7563B19BB1; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 14:26:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9F66A199F4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 14:26:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6TIQMeH001123 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:26:22 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6TIQMD5001119 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:26:22 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] VMWare workstation-4.0? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:26:22 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Ishwar Rattan wrote: > > Is there any 'howo-to' for installing a cpu/auth > server on this simulated machine? > you can make an auth/cpu/kfs server the same way as you would with a non-vmware machine. the instructions are in the wiki. (unless there's a brand new image for 4.0, which differs significantly from the previous one found on the plan9 web page) andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 05:34:42 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 05:34:42 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 4556 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 05:34:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 4552 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 05:34:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 05:34:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6DB2D19BD2; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:34:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 57F9019B13; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:34:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1188C19B34; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:33:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams006.ftl.affinity.com (lvs00-fl.valueweb.net [216.219.253.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4688819B06 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:33:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coma ([81.64.132.185]) by ams.ftl.affinity.com with SMTP id <222142-5916>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:32:53 -0400 Message-ID: <002601c35610$8f678ee0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <0c0d9fc6ebb5d689352d6f24e2dd4d23@plan9.bell-labs.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] vwhois fix MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:32:40 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) oh cool. it's not perfect, but i think it fixes the 'essence' of the problem. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 05:35:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 05:35:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 4564 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 05:35:26 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 4560 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 05:35:25 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 05:35:25 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3294519BDF; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:35:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0771019B16; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:35:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 55A9619A12; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:34:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams003.ftl.affinity.com (lvs00-fl.valueweb.net [216.219.253.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 85734199D7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:34:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coma ([81.64.132.185]) by ams.ftl.affinity.com with SMTP id <214591-14285>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:32:38 -0400 Message-ID: <002501c35610$8690ae00$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <40eeeecbdff2d304a7278844bb644d62@plan9.bell-labs.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] A small fix for nedmail. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:31:24 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > this and boyd's plaralization fixes are in. oh cool. this morning i realised i could used a ? : but python has erradicated that thought. given we have infinite cpu power i chose a function, over a macro 'cos it's type checked and you don't have to bracket everything to death. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 06:05:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 06:05:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 5206 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 06:05:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 5202 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 06:05:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 06:05:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2255A19BED; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:05:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B32E8199F6; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:05:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EDCB519BE6; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:04:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams006.ftl.affinity.com (lvs00-fl.valueweb.net [216.219.253.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1645B19B22 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:04:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coma ([81.64.132.185]) by ams.ftl.affinity.com with SMTP id <216100-5909>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:03:10 -0400 Message-ID: <007801c35614$8303b9e0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <3F2686CC.3A108AAC@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] input methods for non-ascii languages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:47:59 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > These two could be considered to be different cases for the > same syllabic sound. 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 00:41:48 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > i usually take the easy way out and write ``N message(s)'' this will not do [floyd]. to (mis)quote chef tony bourdain: in my off hours i am sloppy to a fault but, at the job i won't tolerate less than perfection he also speaks of: that lovable psychotic edge From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 08:07:46 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 08:07:46 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 7791 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 08:07:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 7787 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 08:07:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 08:07:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C3C1D19C83; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:07:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DB6AC19BEA; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:07:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1ED8F19C57; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:06:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from juice.thebigchoice.com (pc1-nott2-3-cust18.nott.cable.ntl.com [80.4.204.18]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 0D59B19BF5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:06:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 43647 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2003 23:06:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO proweb.co.uk) (192.168.1.100) by juice.thebigchoice.com with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 23:06:48 -0000 Message-ID: <3F26FE08.9080108@proweb.co.uk> From: matt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] A small fix for nedmail. References: <02afb320ca7a4f7697d96170bbda5df2@caldo.demon.co.uk> <012c01c35622$9916f040$b9844051@insultant.net> In-Reply-To: <012c01c35622$9916f040$b9844051@insultant.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 00:06:48 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) boyd, rounin wrote: >>i usually take the easy way out and write ``N message(s)'' >> >> > >this will not do [floyd]. to (mis)quote chef tony bourdain: > > in my off hours i am sloppy to a fault > but, at the job i won't tolerate less than perfection > > >oh cool. it's not perfect, but i think it fixes the 'essence' of the problem. > > contrary, moi? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 08:15:38 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 08:15:38 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 7861 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 08:15:37 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 7857 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 08:15:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 08:15:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5496D19C92; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:15:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 766D819C6A; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:15:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 24C2D19BF5; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:14:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams013.ftl.affinity.com (lvs00-fl.valueweb.net [216.219.253.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 524EB19BEA for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:14:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coma ([81.64.132.185]) by ams.ftl.affinity.com with SMTP id <217394-13669>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:13:26 -0400 Message-ID: <017501c35626$fcd26a20$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <02afb320ca7a4f7697d96170bbda5df2@caldo.demon.co.uk> <012c01c35622$9916f040$b9844051@insultant.net> <3F26FE08.9080108@proweb.co.uk> Subject: Re: [9fans] A small fix for nedmail. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 01:13:13 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > contrary, moi? The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950), Man and Superman (1903) "Maxims for Revolutionists" From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 08:16:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 08:16:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 7900 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 08:16:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 7896 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 08:16:27 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 08:16:27 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8D88119CA7; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:16:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9895019C8B; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:16:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3F46219C7F; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:15:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from doppio.vitanuova.com (unknown [62.254.170.97]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5F0F319C5F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:15:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <6bd32221b40bb3b88ec33de6151e70c0@vitanuova.com> From: C H Forsyth To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] A small fix for nedmail. In-Reply-To: <012c01c35622$9916f040$b9844051@insultant.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 00:19:31 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >> i usually take the easy way out and write ``N message(s)'' >this will not do [floyd]. to (mis)quote chef tony bourdain: > ... >he also speaks of: > that lovable psychotic edge actually, you're right. i usually just write nothing: that lovable sociopathic edge. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 09:52:49 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 09:52:49 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11119 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 09:52:38 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11115 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 09:52:37 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 09:52:37 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E2FD319CA8; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 20:52:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8B7D419C8B; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 20:52:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A94B319C8A; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 20:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1B6DB19AE5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 20:51:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] input methods for non-ascii languages From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: <60dd568491e43f8b733ddd04f15cd129@plan9.bell-labs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:51:54 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Some years back I saw a grammar based editor at Sony. > It allowed you to type a sentence in romaji and it would display > a romaji/kanji/kana representation of the sentence at the bottom > of the screen. Since it 'understood' the sentence, by the time > you got to the end of the sentence, it had a pretty high probability > of having it right. You could then tab over to any word and cycle > through hiragana, katakana, romaji and the possible kanji equivs. > Of course, as you fixed each word, it could be changing all of the > unfixed part to match. I'ld hate to think how much code was > behind it. I don't believe it got any acceptance from well skilled Japanese writers. The strategy for translating Kana/Romaji input to Kanji may have two ways, the first for Japanese beginners, where I don't mean them as foreigners, and the other for well educated Japanese writers. For the first writer, automatic translation would be helpful, however, for the latter, it would be a deeply annoying thing. I'm using ktrans for everyday mail writings and fairy longer documents without any problem. I added many words though. In the ktrans, I know, we have no proper nouns, such as names of humans or places etc. though. Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 10:14:48 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 10:14:48 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11906 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 10:14:37 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11901 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 10:14:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 10:14:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4DE2B19C97; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:14:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1A25A19B04; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:14:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E0F7519B11; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:13:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id ADB2A19AE5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:13:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] input methods for non-ascii languages From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:14:40 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) One addition! If you believe it's most important to write as fast as possible, ktrans is not for you. However, I don't read such ducuments. Writing is not so easy to achieve it in a short time, and our speed of writing is not so high, I believe. Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 10:21:38 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 10:21:38 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12194 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 10:21:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12190 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 10:21:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 10:21:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6C24819CAC; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:21:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.18.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0AF1C19BEA; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:21:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D5E4619B11; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:20:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams002.ftl.affinity.com (lvs00-fl.valueweb.net [216.219.253.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E3CAC19AA8 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:20:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coma ([81.64.132.185]) by ams.ftl.affinity.com with SMTP id <558278-8372>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:20:02 -0400 Message-ID: <01ed01c35638$a9a92de0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] input methods for non-ascii languages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01EA_01C35649.6C71BB20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 03:19:44 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01EA_01C35649.6C71BB20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > In the ktrans, I know, we have no proper nouns, such as names of > humans or places etc. though. do you have (see attached)? ------=_NextPart_000_01EA_01C35649.6C71BB20 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="rounin.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="rounin.jpg" /9j/4RK7RXhpZgAASUkqAAgAAAAKAA8BAgAFAAAAhgAAABABAgAMAAAAjAAAABIBAwABAAAAAQAA ABoBBQABAAAAmAAAABsBBQABAAAAoAAAACgBAwABAAAAAgAAADEBAgAYAAAAqAAAADIBAgAUAAAA wAAAABMCAwABAAAAAQAAAGmHBAABAAAA1AAAAIwBAABTT05ZAABQaWN0dXJlR2VhcgCA/AoAECcA AID8CgAQJwAAUGljdHVyZUdlYXIgVmVyc2lvbiA0LjEAMjAwMTowNDoxNiAyMzo1OTo0MQAJAACQ 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9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D03D519CA4; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:06:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9DF3B19C8B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:06:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] input methods for non-ascii languages From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: <01ed01c35638$a9a92de0$b9844051@insultant.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:06:53 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) do you have (see attached)? I did it now. Is that your tattoo, which I said you should not do it? I'm hesitating to say something here. Writing Kanji is a kind of art, which I have no good skill for it, although I had lessons for it in my youth. Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 11:19:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 11:19:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 14778 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 11:19:38 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 14774 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 11:19:37 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 11:19:37 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3ED2E19CBF; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:19:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DAC8219CA9; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:19:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E76DE19CAB; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:18:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams006.ftl.affinity.com (lvs00-fl.valueweb.net [216.219.253.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1E2C319C8B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:18:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coma ([81.64.132.185]) by ams.ftl.affinity.com with SMTP id <215619-5905>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:17:33 -0400 Message-ID: <01fa01c35640$b572c840$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] input methods for non-ascii languages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 04:17:20 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Is that your tattoo, which I said you should not do it? it most certainly is [~5x3cm]: http://japan.chez.tiscali.fr/TokyoWeb/E-Ronin.htm gaijin dakara, wakaranai ... suits me fine, 'cos i'm: a) masterless b) unemployed c) have a CS major, but no BSc yes, calligraphy is hard. i can't even write ascii based stuff now after all this this keyboard work and general language confusion. now, if i could just get some 'asari' ... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 11:23:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 11:23:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 14974 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 11:23:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 14970 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 11:23:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 11:23:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 92BB119CC9; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:23:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 23AF019CBC; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:23:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 27A9019CBD; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:22:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EACF419CA9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:22:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] Venti and fossil user's manual Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:23:01 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I know I'm requiring too much to developpers. However, if I could have such, it's more pleasure to recommend anyone to use those. By the way, I got a overnight to fmtarenas for 120GB Maxtor HDD, and 1 hour for each 6GB fmtisect with dma off. Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 11:34:21 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 11:34:21 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15384 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 11:33:59 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15369 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 11:33:38 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 11:33:38 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C105F19CC8; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:33:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B476019CAB; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:33:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7204319CBC; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:32:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3361219C8B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:32:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] input methods for non-ascii languages From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: <01fa01c35640$b572c840$b9844051@insultant.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:33:42 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > yes, calligraphy is hard. i can't even write ascii based stuff now after I was raised in such Kanji calture where it's very natural we can't read ancient Kanji writings, because it's too much artificial. When I was at Old Bible's museum in Jerusalem, I was much surprised that a young mother is reading that Bible, written 2000 years ago!, to her daughter. And I couldn't stop to ask her why you can read such an old document, and her answer was, well it's not easy to read it, because a bit art like. I felt that every nation has a similar tendency to write their words in art like if possible. However, in case of Kanji, it's hard to read if it's written, and importantly we feel it beautifuller, in art like... Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 11:36:35 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 11:36:35 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15503 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 11:36:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15498 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 11:36:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 11:36:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8E8E819CCD; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:36:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 425CD19CC4; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:36:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1B30A19CC6; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:35:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DE8AA19C8B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:35:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <691c6cdfad7103a4d398eaedfd1b5c19@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Venti and fossil user's manual From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:35:57 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > By the way, I got a overnight to fmtarenas for 120GB Maxtor HDD, > and 1 hour for each 6GB fmtisect with dma off. Then, I set the /dev/sdC0 dma on, and the 1 hour reduced to 6 minutes. Wow! kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 11:42:40 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 11:42:40 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15760 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 11:42:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15756 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 11:42:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 11:42:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CF44219CD0; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:42:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 83B8D19AF8; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:42:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B838B19AF8; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:41:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams013.ftl.affinity.com (lvs00-fl.valueweb.net [216.219.253.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E634519A02 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:41:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coma ([81.64.132.185]) by ams.ftl.affinity.com with SMTP id <213551-13676>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:40:37 -0400 Message-ID: <021101c35643$ee406120$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] input methods for non-ascii languages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 04:40:21 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > yes, calligraphy is hard. i can't even write ascii based stuff now after > > I was raised in such Kanji calture where it's very natural we can't read > ancient Kanji writings, because it's too much artificial. yes, it's too (what is the word?), ideomatic (although that usually applies to speech). it is an art. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 13:16:07 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 13:16:07 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 19954 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 13:15:46 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 19950 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 13:15:45 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 13:15:45 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D4DD619CD3; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 00:15:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0911A19CAD; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 00:15:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 38A0A19CAF; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 00:14:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E760D19A76 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 00:14:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <8a51f11f68080b5088ece6a439186c84@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Venti for Fossil From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: <77da6dc262ebb960e06310ac8a4841ac@proxima.alt.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:14:57 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) I'm engaging this venti+fossil fighting now. âş > The following commands: > > venti/fmtarenas arena. /dev/sd01/v.arena > venti/fmtisect isect.0 /dev/sd00/v.idx0 > venti/fmtisect isect.1 /dev/sd00/v.idx1 > > produce results along the following lines: > > clearing the partition > configuring /dev/sd01/v.arena with arenas=3 for a total storage of bytes=2146435072 and directory bytes=65536 > adding arena arena.0 at [335872,537206784) > adding arena arena.1 at [537206784,1074077696) > adding arena arena.2 at [1074077696,1610948608) > clearing the partition > configuring index section isect.0 with space for index config bytes=65536 > clearing the partition > configuring index section isect.1 with space for index config bytes=65536 > using 51118 buckets of 51118; div=84021 Why the number of index sector is 2, but not 3. I'm using whole of 120GB space to v.arenas, and it created 228 arenas like: adding arean v.arenas0 at [335872, 537206784) .... adding arena v.arenas227 at [121870032896, 122406903808) What number of index sectors I have to make? Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 13:20:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 13:20:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20103 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 13:20:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20098 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 13:20:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 13:20:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 99F9319CD6; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 00:20:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B61DA19CD1; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 00:20:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9146919CD4; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 00:19:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A83DD19CCE for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 00:19:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6U4IueH001698 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:18:56 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6U4Iufb001694 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:18:56 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Venti and fossil user's manual In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:18:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp wrote: > By the way, I got a overnight to fmtarenas for 120GB Maxtor HDD, > and 1 hour for each 6GB fmtisect with dma off. with dma on it's something like 40MB/s: > 1.09u 63.26s 1410.41r venti/fmtarenas arenas /dev/sdC0/arenas > the size of the partition is 60.98 GB, which corresponds to around > 40+MB/s. dma/rwm was on, of course. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 13:26:59 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 13:26:59 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 20359 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 13:26:48 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20354 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 13:26:44 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 13:26:44 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DFB9B19CDB; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 00:26:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8EF3F19CAD; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 00:26:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 05BF819CAD; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 00:25:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 14EFC19A76 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 00:25:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6U4PFeH001776 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:25:15 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6U4PFI7001772 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:25:15 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Venti for Fossil In-Reply-To: <8a51f11f68080b5088ece6a439186c84@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:25:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I'm using whole of 120GB space to v.arenas, and it created 228 arenas like: > > adding arean v.arenas0 at [335872, 537206784) > .... > adding arena v.arenas227 at [121870032896, 122406903808) > > What number of index sectors I have to make? > you should have a sector for each arena, perhaps? this is something I wouldn't mind being explained to me -- I'm using a 80GB hard driver with just a single 60GB arena. which one is better: many small arenas on the same disk, or a single, large one? I did it with a single arena because I thought the next one should reside on a separate disk... or maybe I'm confused -- what venti considers an 'arena' is not the same as an 'arena' partition on the hard drive, dedicated to venti: index=main total arenas=121 active=2 total space=64959397888 used=764195110 clumps=480677 compressed clumps=412542 data=1447303506 compressed data=733912459 anyway, I like these usage statistics -- I've thrown about 3gb of different data to the venti (like 300+mb fonts duplicated in /lib and in /usr/andrey) and it still grows very, very slowly... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 13:46:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 13:46:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21001 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 13:46:38 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 20996 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 13:46:37 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 13:46:37 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4F18F19CD2; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 00:46:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4780219CC7; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 00:46:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B694E19CC7; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 00:45:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailnw.centurytel.net (mailnw.centurytel.net [209.206.160.237]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D0BDF19CBD for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 00:45:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from laptopvmw.9netics.com ([64.91.109.37]) by mailnw.centurytel.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6U4jXDP025004 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:45:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <467d1f990f125b65875700b66193ffb5@centurytel.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] input methods for non-ascii languages From: "Skip Tavakkolian" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:45:45 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I felt that every nation has a similar tendency > to write their words in art like if possible. In Persian writings, especially poetry, calligraphy is used to visually match the beauty of what is being said, and to give a hint of its tone. Making the words readable is not the primary consideration. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 13:55:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 13:55:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21329 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 13:55:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21325 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 13:55:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 13:55:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2CE5519CD9; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 00:55:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A337719C7F; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 00:55:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 90D3D19A01; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 00:54:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 43D36199D7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 00:54:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1193512857ced282f31a3dafa31e18f0@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Venti for Fossil Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:54:57 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >> I'm using whole of 120GB space to v.arenas, and it created 228 arenas like: >> >> adding arean v.arenas0 at [335872, 537206784) >> .... >> adding arena v.arenas227 at [121870032896, 122406903808) >> >> What number of index sectors I have to make? >> > > you should have a sector for each arena, perhaps? I'm now reformatting arena partition, because I got error messages when I dispatched venti/fmtindex /sys/lib/sysconfig/dntf/venti.conf: err2: arena set has wrong magic number: 0 expected a9e4a5e7 err2: corrupted arena partition header: arena set has wrong magic number: 0 expected a9e4a5e7 fatal venti/fmtindex error: can't initialization config /sys/lib/sysconfig/dntf/venti.conf: corrupted arena partition header: arena set has wrong magic number: 0 expected a9e4a5e7. I think magic number a9e4a5e7 is of ArenaPartMagic, which means I named each arena wrong. Then my next command line for fmtarenas is: venti/fmtarenas arenas. /dev/sdC1/v.arenas Of course, I switched dma on for the disk, this time, and made log of the process, because I'll have so many arenas. ? Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 14:08:46 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 14:08:46 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 21764 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 14:08:44 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 21759 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 14:08:44 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 14:08:44 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7FF5B19C7F; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 01:08:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7A64819CBD; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 01:08:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 82F1619CCF; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 01:07:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 288DA19CAB for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 01:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6U4sxnp015393 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 06:55:02 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h6U4sv6N015392 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 06:54:57 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Venti for Fossil Message-ID: <20030730065455.Z1666@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: <77da6dc262ebb960e06310ac8a4841ac@proxima.alt.za> <8a51f11f68080b5088ece6a439186c84@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: <8a51f11f68080b5088ece6a439186c84@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp>; from okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp on Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 01:14:57PM +0900 Organization: Proxima Research & Development Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 06:54:56 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 01:14:57PM +0900, okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp wrote: > > I'm engaging this venti+fossil fighting now. ? > I've added a "-n" option to venti/fmtarenas so that I can specify the number of arenas instead of the size. It's a small fix and I believe it to be useful at least for experimentation. Should I submit it here? Can anyone think of a reason _not_ to add it? I couldn't find a good way of extending this to pick a different: tabSize = 64 * 1024; /* BUG: should be determine from number of arenas */ (sic) as the relationship isn't obvious (to me). If anyone can suggest how to do it, I'll be happy to include it in my patch. ++L PS: venti/syncindex fails (for me) as soon as there is something in Venti. Is this expected? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 14:15:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 14:15:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 22053 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 14:15:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 22049 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 14:15:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 14:15:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5F85419CE8; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 01:15:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 735DC19CE3; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 01:15:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id AE13A19CDF; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 01:14:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 67F6519CC6 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 01:14:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6U5E6eH001818 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 23:14:06 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6U5E65q001814 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 23:14:06 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Venti for Fossil In-Reply-To: <1193512857ced282f31a3dafa31e18f0@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 23:14:06 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp wrote: > I think magic number a9e4a5e7 is of ArenaPartMagic, which means I named > each arena wrong. Then my next command line for fmtarenas is: > venti/fmtarenas arenas. /dev/sdC1/v.arenas > Of course, I switched dma on for the disk, this time, and made log > of the process, because I'll have so many arenas. ? I try to stay as close to the instructions as possible -- simple is better. My venti.conf has the following: % cat venti.conf index main isect /dev/sdC0/isect arenas /dev/sdC0/arenas % my partitions on the disk are: 9fat 0 20482 (20482 sectors, 10.00 MB) swap 20482 1273392 (1252910 sectors, 611.77 MB) fossil 1273392 25599169 (24325777 sectors, 11.59 GB) arenas 25599169 153492606 (127893437 sectors, 60.98 GB) isect 153492606 160071596 (6578990 sectors, 3.13 GB) nvram 160071596 160071597 (1 sectors, 512 B ) with this setup I haven't had any problems with venti. andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 15:46:42 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 15:46:42 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 26208 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 15:46:41 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 26204 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 15:46:40 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 15:46:40 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0374219CDD; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 02:46:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.8.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 838FB19BE9; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 02:46:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6935B19AB0; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 02:45:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 30AA819A26 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 02:45:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <335e8cc361fca3aacc425a09b77cd75a@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Venti for Fossil Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: <1193512857ced282f31a3dafa31e18f0@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:46:17 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I'm now reformatting arena partition, >Then my next command line for fmtarenas is: > venti/fmtarenas arenas. /dev/sdC1/v.arenas > Of course, I switched dma on for the disk, this time, and made log > of the process, because I'll have so many arenas. ? This time, the time for formatting /dev/sdC1/v.arena of 120GB was reduced to 1 hour, and that for index was to 4 min! This time, I have no error message from venti/fmtindex command. Ok, next is making fossil. Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 17:38:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 17:38:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 31024 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 17:38:38 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 31020 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 17:38:38 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 17:38:38 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5B09619BEF; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 04:38:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3CEE719B22; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 04:38:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6C5F619AEE; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 04:37:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8592C19AB0 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 04:37:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19hmI1-0006RQ-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:26:29 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Ralph Corderoy Message-ID: <3828.3f264674.96335@blake.inputplus.co.uk> Organization: InputPlus Ltd. References: <1064.3f2242e3.bedc3@blake.inputplus.co.uk>, <4e9a248eadf51083ac5d918159014eda@collyer.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] text utility Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:25:46 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi Geoff, > One could use "pr -tn" instead of the little awk script, but the > difference in speed really isn't that great. Reading a cached ~2.5MB > file of ~250K lines, > > cpu% time awk '{print NR, $0}' test >/dev/null > 2.85u 0.13s 3.53r awk {print NR, $0} test > cpu% time pr -tn test >/dev/null > 1.75u 0.13s 2.18r pr -tn test Fair enough. Under AIX and Linux cat's a win. Using yes(1) so awk's little work to do: $ yes y | head -n 250000 | time awk '{print NR, $0}' >/dev/null real 1.13 user 1.06 sys 0.01 $ yes y | head -n 250000 | time cat -n >/dev/null real 0.08 user 0.05 sys 0.00 I used it heavily when doing ad-hoc queries on files with millions of lines. But, like you say, if it's not present, it's no use. Cheers, -- Ralph Corderoy. http://inputplus.co.uk/ralph/ http://troff.org/ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 17:39:28 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 17:39:28 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 31036 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 17:39:27 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 31032 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 17:39:26 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 17:39:26 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 61FE719CD8; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 04:39:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9EB1F19BA2; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 04:39:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8262E19ACA; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 04:38:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9E29519AB0 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 04:38:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19hmI1-0006Ri-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:26:29 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Anthony Mandic Message-ID: <3F2752E5.5061A240@hotmail.com> Organization: Mandic Consulting Pty. Ltd. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <01fa01c35640$b572c840$b9844051@insultant.net>, Subject: Re: [9fans] input methods for non-ascii languages Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:26:19 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,SEMIFORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp wrote: > > > yes, calligraphy is hard. i can't even write ascii based stuff now after > > I was raised in such Kanji calture where it's very natural we can't read > ancient Kanji writings, because it's too much artificial. ... > I felt that every nation has a similar tendency > to write their words in art like if possible. However, in case of > Kanji, it's hard to read if it's written, and importantly we feel it > beautifuller, in art like... Even in the West, illuminated texts and such fonts as Gothic, even when printed, are hard to read. Any flowery or showy type of font is difficult because you have to work out what each letter is, which slows down the reading pace. It gets worse when characters look similar. Handwriting varies from person to person and I find some hard to read. Reading copperplate is difficult if the writer stylises it too much. So it can be much the same as written Kanji. Artists stylise their calligraphy even further, which doesn't help, but its done on purpose. I can't even make out much of what written in graffiti tags. But then I suspect I'm not meant to. -am © 2003 From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 17:39:47 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 17:39:47 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 31046 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 17:39:47 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 31042 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 17:39:46 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 17:39:46 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B312019CE7; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 04:39:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 114D019CDE; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 04:39:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5B91A19AEE; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 04:38:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 84B1E19AF1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 04:38:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19hmI1-0006Rc-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:26:29 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Anthony Mandic Message-ID: <3F274FB2.B0DAF445@hotmail.com> Organization: Mandic Consulting Pty. Ltd. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <3F2686CC.3A108AAC@hotmail.com>, <007801c35614$8303b9e0$b9844051@insultant.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] input methods for non-ascii languages Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:26:09 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,SEMIFORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) "boyd, rounin" wrote: > > > These two could be considered to be different cases for the > > same syllabic sound. So they'd be something akin to upper and > > lower case in European character sets ... > > not at all. you DO NOT write 'pure' japanese with katakana -- ever. Well, you could if you wanted to, but I do understand what you mean. Its not normal and would look as odd to the Japanese, possibly, as all uppercase does to us. But going back to your original comment where you said that Japanese has 4 character sets, in terms of computer character sets (i.e. s-jis etc.) its only one isn't it? -am © 2003 From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 17:40:06 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 17:40:06 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 31058 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 17:40:06 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 31054 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 17:40:05 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 17:40:05 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id F1A8719CF0; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 04:40:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BD3BE19CE9; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 04:39:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3939A19B22; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 04:38:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7256919AB0 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 04:38:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19hmI1-0006RW-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:26:29 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: "plan9@itic.ca" Message-ID: <7458b557.0307291407.2220976c@posting.google.com> Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: , <4b5afb74f399e57bd8c123746c233c27@plan9.bell-labs.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] power pc port Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:25:58 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Which machines or boards are ``blast'' and ``ucu'' configfiles related to ? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 20:38:50 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 20:38:50 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 3520 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 20:38:38 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 3515 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 20:38:37 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 20:38:37 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 985A019B65; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 07:38:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9565F19B27; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 07:38:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 28DCE19B27; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 07:37:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams002.ftl.affinity.com (lvs00-fl.valueweb.net [216.219.253.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5335119AEB for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 07:37:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coma ([81.64.132.185]) by ams.ftl.affinity.com with SMTP id <559101-21067>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 07:36:11 -0400 Message-ID: <026801c3568e$bfac7100$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <3F274FB2.B0DAF445@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] input methods for non-ascii languages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:35:58 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > But going back to your original comment where you said that > Japanese has 4 character sets, in terms of computer character > sets (i.e. s-jis etc.) its only one isn't it? err, iirc, no. there are multiple jis versions and it's pretty ugly. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 22:23:40 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 22:23:40 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 6222 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 22:23:39 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 6218 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 22:23:38 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 22:23:38 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7536D19BE2; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:23:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2802C19B24; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:23:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7E6DD19B54; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:22:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 03CFD19B3A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:21:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6UD95np016118 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:09:10 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h6UD90RF016117 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:09:00 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans mailing list <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Message-ID: <20030730150857.D1666@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans mailing list <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us Organization: Proxima Research & Development Subject: [9fans] Additional software... Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:08:57 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) ... or lack thereof. I get an empty page when requesting: ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 22:39:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 22:39:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 6766 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 22:39:37 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 6762 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 22:39:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 22:39:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CC38F19BF4; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:39:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2C81519BD3; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:39:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1386519BCD; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:38:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A1FAD19B54 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:37:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6UDPCnp016151 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:25:14 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h6UDP6DV016150 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:25:06 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans mailing list <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Additional software... Message-ID: <20030730152500.E1666@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans mailing list <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <20030730150857.D1666@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: <20030730150857.D1666@cackle.proxima.alt.za>; from Lucio De Re on Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 03:08:57PM +0200 Organization: Proxima Research & Development Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:25:01 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 03:08:57PM +0200, Lucio De Re wrote: > > ... or lack thereof. I get an empty page when requesting: > > > ... and the description for perl.iso.bz2 needs fixing: the version seems out of date and the file size is thirteen (nearly fourteen, not three!) megs. ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 22:50:50 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 22:50:50 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 7136 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 22:50:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 7132 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 22:50:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 22:50:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5113D19BFD; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:50:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D02D819BD3; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:50:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A018119BD5; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:49:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams013.ftl.affinity.com (lvs00-fl.valueweb.net [216.219.253.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CCC1D19BCD for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:49:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coma ([81.64.132.185]) by ams.ftl.affinity.com with SMTP id <214968-21332>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:49:51 -0400 Message-ID: <02cb01c356a1$6b24c0c0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <20030730150857.D1666@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <20030730152500.E1666@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Subject: Re: [9fans] Additional software... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:49:36 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > ... and the description for perl.iso.bz2 needs fixing: the version > seems out of date and the file size is thirteen (nearly fourteen, not > three!) megs. not being able to download perl could be considered a _feature_. anyway, what do you want? maybe i can get it from sdgm.net or put it somewhere from sdgm.net: brahma% cd /n/sources/plan9 brahma% lc 29000 LICENSE adm env mips sparc 386 LICENSE.afpl alpha fd mnt sys 68000 LICENSE.gpl arm lib n tmp 68020 NOTICE cron lp power usr 960 acme dist mail rc From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Wed Jul 30 22:58:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Wed Jul 30 22:58:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 7434 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jul 2003 22:58:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 7430 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2003 22:58:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 30 Jul 2003 22:58:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 307B519BF8; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:58:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id ECF6D19C01; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:58:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 341BF19BFB; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:57:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 131FE19BD9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:57:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6UDiInp016209 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:44:20 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h6UDiEWS016208 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:44:15 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Additional software... Message-ID: <20030730154410.G1666@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: <20030730150857.D1666@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <20030730152500.E1666@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <02cb01c356a1$6b24c0c0$b9844051@insultant.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: <02cb01c356a1$6b24c0c0$b9844051@insultant.net>; from boyd, rounin on Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 03:49:36PM +0200 Organization: Proxima Research & Development Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:44:11 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 03:49:36PM +0200, boyd, rounin wrote: > > not being able to download perl could be considered a _feature_. > Indeed. Having to download four times the expected amount, however, is like adding insult to injury :-) > anyway, what do you want? maybe i can get it from sdgm.net or > put it somewhere from sdgm.net: > Nah, I have never downloaded the "contrib" image, although I think I have all the bits that go into it in some fashion or other. I just didn't want the next person going looking to get disappointed. ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 00:57:48 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 00:57:48 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10758 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 00:57:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10754 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 00:57:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 00:57:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 727F419C03; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:57:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3CACA19B3B; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:57:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 731CC19BAF; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:56:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from skeeve.com (host-67-35-39-68.asm.bellsouth.net [67.35.39.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0CE3919B55 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:56:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from skeeve.com (aahz [127.0.0.1]) by skeeve.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6UFttZn003935 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 18:55:56 +0300 Received: (from arnold@localhost) by skeeve.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h6UFtnER003933 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:55:49 -0400 From: Aharon Robbins Message-Id: <200307301555.h6UFtnER003933@skeeve.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] [off topic] HTML to PostScript? Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:55:49 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Can anyone suggest open source/freeware/GPL tools that convert HTML to postscript? I'm looking for something that's a modern tbl/nroff equivalent for simple reporting needs, even in a Unix type environment. E.g., generate_raw_data | awk 'prog to manipulate data' | awk 'turn data in simple HMTL' | magic_program_here > report.ps Thanks, Arnold Robbins From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 01:15:38 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 01:15:38 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11037 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 01:15:37 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11033 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 01:15:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 01:15:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id AB74B19AC1; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:15:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DB2DA19B3B; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:15:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9623C19B55; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:15:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from larch (unknown [195.173.15.12]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A208519AC1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:14:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <7b4d65d9026f619d185fb7baf8c02fd2@yourdomain.dom> From: steve.simon@snellwilcox.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] [off topic] HTML to PostScript? In-Reply-To: <2767366193@snellwilcox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-eynlamzgpfccfosotfzdrbfaev" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:14:53 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-eynlamzgpfccfosotfzdrbfaev Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How about generate_raw_data | awk 'prog to manipulate data' | awk 'turn data into tbl/MS macros' | tbl | ms2html > report.ps admittedly ms2html is Plan9 specific (uses libc/bio not stdio). -Steve --upas-eynlamzgpfccfosotfzdrbfaev Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 16:55:49 +0100 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu bcc: "Steve Simon" From: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Sender: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Importance: normal Priority: normal Subject: [9fans] [off topic] HTML to PostScript? Message-Id: <2767366193@snellwilcox.com> X-MIME-Engine: v0.90 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Id: <2767366193-1@snellwilcox.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can anyone suggest open source/freeware/GPL tools that convert HTML to postscript? I'm looking for something that's a modern tbl/nroff equivalent for simple reporting needs, even in a Unix type environment. E.g., generate_raw_data | awk 'prog to manipulate data' | awk 'turn data in simple HMTL' | magic_program_here > report.ps Thanks, Arnold Robbins --upas-eynlamzgpfccfosotfzdrbfaev-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 01:22:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 01:22:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11255 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 01:22:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11251 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 01:22:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 01:22:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4C25019BE7; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:22:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.76.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 158D419BAF; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:22:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0F5D419BE7; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:21:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from edoras.nas.com (edoras.nas.com [206.63.100.8]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 457E019BAF for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:21:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nas.com (unknown [164.116.190.46]) by edoras.nas.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D319EBD5F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:21:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F27F071.8050203@nas.com> From: Jack Johnson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030416 Thunderbird/0.1a X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] [off topic] HTML to PostScript? References: <200307301555.h6UFtnER003933@skeeve.com> In-Reply-To: <200307301555.h6UFtnER003933@skeeve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:21:05 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Aharon Robbins wrote: > Can anyone suggest open source/freeware/GPL tools that convert HTML > to postscript? As a tangent, Adobe Acrobat does a pretty decent job of HTML->PDF. Sometimes I think it does a better layout/rendering job than some of the browsers. I wonder, if we had an HTML->PS utility, could we use some variation of 'page' as a Web browser (sans active content)? Maybe listing links from the page in a menu as if they were separate pages in the document, and then doing another set of fetches, rerendering, etc? -Jack From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 01:30:46 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 01:30:46 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11350 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 01:30:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11346 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 01:30:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 01:30:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6010019C0D; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:30:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 12E0719BF9; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:30:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DD9E219C05; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:29:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from edoras.nas.com (edoras.nas.com [206.63.100.8]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1547919BB2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:29:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nas.com (unknown [164.116.190.46]) by edoras.nas.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1E81EB3FF for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F27F259.4050502@nas.com> From: Jack Johnson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030416 Thunderbird/0.1a X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] [off topic] HTML to PostScript? References: <7b4d65d9026f619d185fb7baf8c02fd2@yourdomain.dom> In-Reply-To: <7b4d65d9026f619d185fb7baf8c02fd2@yourdomain.dom> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:29:13 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) steve.simon@snellwilcox.com wrote: > generate_raw_data | awk 'prog to manipulate data' | > awk 'turn data into tbl/MS macros' | > tbl | > ms2html > report.ps Wouldn't that be troff instead of ms2html? Or: generate_raw_data | awk 'prog to manipulate data' | awk 'turn data into simple HTML' | html2ms | troff > report.ps ? (going from the 30s of Google research -- sorry for any obvious ignorance) -Jack From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 01:34:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 01:34:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11386 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 01:34:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11382 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 01:34:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 01:34:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 90F74199D7; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:34:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DC19C19B22; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:34:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 84BCC19C05; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:33:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay4-dav77.bay4.hotmail.com [65.54.171.107]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CE09E19BB2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:33:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:33:22 -0700 Received: from 202.105.138.50 by bay4-dav77.bay4.hotmail.com with DAV; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 16:33:22 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [202.105.138.50] X-Originating-Email: [hehaiyang@msn.com] From: "River He" To: "plan9" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2003 16:33:22.0351 (UTC) FILETIME=[4AAFC3F0:01C356B8] Subject: [9fans] CDROM boot failed, how can i do? 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In-Reply-To: <1111306366@snellwilcox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-zisqmpxfvlljwguuxgpbuzgvgx" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:38:03 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-zisqmpxfvlljwguuxgpbuzgvgx Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry, yes, mind on other things -Steve --upas-zisqmpxfvlljwguuxgpbuzgvgx Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:29:13 +0100 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu bcc: "Steve Simon" From: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Sender: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Importance: normal Priority: normal Subject: Re: [9fans] [off topic] HTML to PostScript? Message-Id: <1111306366@snellwilcox.com> X-MIME-Engine: v0.90 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Id: <1111306366-1@snellwilcox.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable steve.simon@snellwilcox.com wrote: > generate_raw_data | awk 'prog to manipulate data' | > awk 'turn data into tbl/MS macros' | > tbl | > ms2html > report.ps Wouldn't that be troff instead of ms2html? Or: generate_raw_data | awk 'prog to manipulate data' | awk 'turn data into simple HTML' | html2ms | troff > report.ps ? (going from the 30s of Google research -- sorry for any obvious ignorance) -Jack --upas-zisqmpxfvlljwguuxgpbuzgvgx-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 01:53:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 01:53:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11743 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 01:53:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11739 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 01:53:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 01:53:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 262FB19C1D; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:53:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A108019B3B; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:53:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D7A4019BC2; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:52:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from edoras.nas.com (edoras.nas.com [206.63.100.8]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CD09719B3B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:52:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nas.com (unknown [164.116.190.46]) by edoras.nas.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6432FEB48B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F27F7B9.6040303@nas.com> From: Jack Johnson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030416 Thunderbird/0.1a X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] [even more off topic] 'The Practice of Programming' & troff References: <3b7a8baf8587f7d114907d6081d97cd4@yourdomain.dom> In-Reply-To: <3b7a8baf8587f7d114907d6081d97cd4@yourdomain.dom> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:52:09 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) From http://troff.org/pubs.html#tpop "This book was typeset (grap|pic|tbl|eqn|troff -mpm) in Times and Lucida San[s] Typewriter by the authors." Just for trivia's sake, does anyone know (hi, Rob!) if this book was typeset on Plan 9? There's an interview with Brian at Linux Journal: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7035 and I noticed interviewers often ask him about C vs. Pascal, but rarely (if ever) about troff vs. TeX. -Jack P.S. I spent some quality time with awk for the first time last Friday (converting some ugly one-off bash shell scripts) and couldn't have been more pleased with the results, so this thread is a kind of harmonic convergence of unrelated incidents and interests for me. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 01:59:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 01:59:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11805 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 01:59:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11800 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 01:59:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 01:59:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2E82F19C1F; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:59:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7F2C419A8C; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:59:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 708D619C10; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:58:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8E37219B3B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:58:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6UGwYeH002741 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:58:34 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6UGwYe4002737 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:58:34 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] [even more off topic] 'The Practice of Programming' & troff In-Reply-To: <3F27F7B9.6040303@nas.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:58:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Jack Johnson wrote: > There's an interview with Brian at Linux Journal: > > http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7035 > He talks about all the different operating systems he uses, and mentions that at Bell-Labs it's IRIX. I fing it strange, because I have put on the web his README for beginner Plan 9 users: http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~mirtchov/p9/README.html Or maybe it isn't strange -- the README was written in 1995 after all. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 02:03:41 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 02:03:41 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11853 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 02:03:40 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11849 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 02:03:40 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 02:03:40 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A8E6A19C2C; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:03:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 17D9319C25; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:03:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1074019C1E; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:02:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 32D5319C10 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:02:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2168732b38cb3d5956a396fb986ab3ea@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Additional software... In-Reply-To: <20030730152500.E1666@cackle.proxima.alt.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-fufcpcdxlkgcevqjdpmyhtksth" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:02:48 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-fufcpcdxlkgcevqjdpmyhtksth Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit fixed, I hope... --upas-fufcpcdxlkgcevqjdpmyhtksth Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Wed Jul 30 09:39:30 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Wed Jul 30 09:39:28 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B0B1019BF1; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:39:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9A96119BCD; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:39:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 1386519BCD; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:38:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A1FAD19B54 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:37:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6UDPCnp016151 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:25:14 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h6UDP6DV016150 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:25:06 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans mailing list <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Additional software... Message-ID: <20030730152500.E1666@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans mailing list <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <20030730150857.D1666@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: <20030730150857.D1666@cackle.proxima.alt.za>; from Lucio De Re on Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 03:08:57PM +0200 Organization: Proxima Research & Development Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:25:01 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 03:08:57PM +0200, Lucio De Re wrote: > > ... or lack thereof. I get an empty page when requesting: > > > ... and the description for perl.iso.bz2 needs fixing: the version seems out of date and the file size is thirteen (nearly fourteen, not three!) megs. ++L --upas-fufcpcdxlkgcevqjdpmyhtksth-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 02:04:30 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 02:04:30 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11861 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 02:04:29 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11857 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 02:04:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 02:04:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 13FE019C2E; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:04:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DB08319C14; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:04:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7177D19C1E; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:03:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 99A9E19A8C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:03:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <25981db9bf29e9d73005c0a79c1577b9@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Additional software... In-Reply-To: <20030730150857.D1666@cackle.proxima.alt.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-cwxdneijelfbxfqvkklwgelhuj" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:03:47 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-cwxdneijelfbxfqvkklwgelhuj Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, I meant this was fixed. haven't done anything about the description for perl. --upas-cwxdneijelfbxfqvkklwgelhuj Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Wed Jul 30 09:23:38 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Wed Jul 30 09:23:36 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3923819BD3; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:23:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0B7AC19B54; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:23:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7E6DD19B54; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:22:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 03CFD19B3A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:21:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6UD95np016118 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:09:10 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h6UD90RF016117 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:09:00 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans mailing list <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Message-ID: <20030730150857.D1666@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans mailing list <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us Organization: Proxima Research & Development Subject: [9fans] Additional software... Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:08:57 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) ... or lack thereof. I get an empty page when requesting: ++L --upas-cwxdneijelfbxfqvkklwgelhuj-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 02:07:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 02:07:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11990 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 02:07:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11986 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 02:07:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 02:07:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D933819B1F; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:07:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E53C6199D5; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:07:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 89B0019C10; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:06:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rapido.vitanuova.com (unknown [62.254.170.97]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AE78A19A8C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:06:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <10db8edbeee8e1eccd672e84072a37ec@vitanuova.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] [off topic] HTML to PostScript? From: rog@vitanuova.com In-Reply-To: <3F27F259.4050502@nas.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 18:09:58 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > html2ms | troff > report.ps actually html2ms | troff | lp -d stdout > report.ps is probably slightly more accurate. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 02:13:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 02:13:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12165 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 02:13:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12161 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 02:13:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 02:13:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D369A19C2A; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:13:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 43CF819ABA; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:13:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2C73919C07; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:12:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.mightycheese.com (mail.mightycheese.com [209.61.186.18]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7D27219ABA for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:12:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [216.239.45.4] (HELO stinkhorn.corp.google.com) by mail.mightycheese.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 714145 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:22:24 -0500 Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] [even more off topic] 'The Practice of Programming' & From: "rob pike, esq." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:11:48 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) bwk did the typesetting, on IRIX, but the tools were the same as on plan 9 and i used plan 9 at the time. bwk's 'readme' about plan 9 was not written by an eager plan 9 user, which was kinda part of its point. i wasn't terribly happy with the result. -rob From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 02:22:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 02:22:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 12331 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 02:22:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 12327 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 02:22:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 02:22:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C7A8319ABA; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:22:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C067B19C05; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:22:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DD8BA19C05; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:21:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 03930199EB for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:21:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6UHLKeH002802 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:21:20 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6UHLKbQ002798 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:21:20 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] [even more off topic] 'The Practice of Programming' & In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:21:20 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, rob pike, esq. wrote: > bwk's 'readme' about plan 9 was not written by an eager plan 9 user, which was > kinda part of its point. i wasn't terribly happy with the result. I find it a good introduction to people who are not so eager to explore it -- sort of a 'that's what it is, see if you like it' article. This approach is much more persuasive than my 'but this is so easy in plan9' and 'plan9 is so much better' blatherings, which are usually met with disbelief and ridicule (well, disbelief.. they dare not ridicule me :) Maybe I should remove it, but someone ought to write a better one to put in its place -- someone who speaks english :) andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 03:44:56 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 03:44:56 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13954 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 03:44:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13950 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 03:44:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 03:44:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 11FE119C1E; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:44:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A7F8019BF3; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:44:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8759719B3A; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:43:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from infocom.km.ua (infocom.km.ua [195.46.36.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 989A519BF3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:43:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kp.km.ua (root@kp.km.ua [217.196.174.2]) by infocom.km.ua (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/ic) with ESMTP id h6UIhCV0048995 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:43:13 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from plan9@kp.km.ua) Received: from localhost.localdomain (dialup04.kp.km.ua [217.196.174.19]) by kp.km.ua (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/kp-branch) with SMTP id h6UIh9HT098756 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:43:09 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from plan9@kp.km.ua) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" From: "Andrey S. Kukhar" To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] CDROM boot failed, how can i do? X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <03073021464200.00510@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:49:09 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_FUTURE_06_12,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Failed? No, you just prompted to select boot device. You should type something like this sdD0!cdboot!9pccd.gz where sdD0 is your CD drive. Then in the ``root is from'' prompt type local!#S/sdD0/data kyxap > I download plan9.iso.gz, upzip it, and burn it to CDROM. > I try to boot from CDROM, but monitor display as below: > > Boot form CD: > 1. FD 2.88MB System Type-(0F) > PBS...Plan 9 from Bell Labs > ELCR: 0A60 > apm ax=f000 cx=f000 dx=fdf9 di=0 ebx=694c esi=f03e4 > dev A0 port 1F0 config 045A capabilities 2F00 mwdma 0007 > udma 203F pcirouting: South birdge 8086, 24C0 not found > Boot devices: fd0 sdC0!dos > boot from: From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 04:37:38 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 04:37:38 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15162 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 04:37:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15158 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 04:37:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 04:37:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 389DF19C05; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:37:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 70B4819A93; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:37:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C4C4D19BA2; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:36:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from edoras.nas.com (edoras.nas.com [206.63.100.8]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F05A819A27 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:36:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nas.com (unknown [164.116.190.46]) by edoras.nas.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA86EC1AD for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:36:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F281E33.3050409@nas.com> From: Jack Johnson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030416 Thunderbird/0.1a X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] CDROM boot failed, how can i do? References: <03073021464200.00510@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <03073021464200.00510@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:36:19 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Andrey S. Kukhar wrote: > Failed? No, you just prompted to select boot > device. You should type something like this > sdD0!cdboot!9pccd.gz > where sdD0 is your CD drive. > Then in the ``root is from'' prompt type > local!#S/sdD0/data If memory serves, this seems to be more prevalent if your CD-ROM is not in the expected location (i.e. /dev/sdC1 vs. /dev/sdD0 or vice versa). Entering the path manually always works, but if you happen to have things plugged in in the "right" location, it all goes pretty smoothly. I *think* it must expect /dev/sdC1 (primary slave), because I always have my burner on /dev/sdD0 (secondary master -- alternate IDE controller often provides better performance) and I think that's why I always get bit by the boot prompt. I had a demo(lition) box set up for a while where I just moved the CD-ROM to keep things simple for testing, which is where I *think* I noticed the defaults. Could it be advantageous to change the boot menu to allow selection of the CD-ROM location, to make it easier for newbies to investigate/test/install? -Jack From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 12:48:00 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 12:48:00 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 28315 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 12:47:46 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 28307 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 12:47:45 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 12:47:45 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id F1EE619C10; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:47:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B25C019AB5; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:47:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id ED38119AD1; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:46:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B5D3A19A95 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:46:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp, 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Venti for Fossil From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed Jul 30 13:55:56 JST 2003 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=INVALID_DATE,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) When I want to close venti or fossil server, I just kill those processes? I read venti/sync command, and I think I got it right. Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 12:48:35 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 12:48:35 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 28357 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 12:48:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 28353 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 12:48:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 12:48:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 551CB19A95; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:48:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EE79B19AD1; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:48:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2A1A919C1C; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:47:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DC44E19AB5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:47:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2f92eb2f7022ddf729f83debf74ed1b9@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Venti for Fossil From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: <20030730065455.Z1666@cackle.proxima.alt.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:48:18 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) When I want to close venti or fossil server, I just kill those processes? I read venti/sync command, and I think I got it right. Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 13:07:26 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 13:07:26 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 29127 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 13:07:06 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 29115 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 13:06:44 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 13:06:44 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 23CD619C28; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 00:06:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DC03119BF3; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 00:06:27 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 420B219BF3; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 00:05:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (ampl.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id ACB7A199FC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 00:05:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5d1d86bb7741881a9e46b24e29142fcc@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Venti for Fossil In-Reply-To: <2f92eb2f7022ddf729f83debf74ed1b9@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 00:05:39 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Wed Jul 30 23:48:31 EDT 2003, okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp wrote: > When I want to close venti or fossil server, I just kill those > processes? I read venti/sync command, and I think I got it > right. > > Kenji There's a fossil 'sync' command too. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 13:14:41 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 13:14:41 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 29393 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 13:14:39 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 29389 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 13:14:39 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 13:14:39 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E45F819C34; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 00:14:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AAD4B19C15; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 00:14:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 89BA219A15; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 00:13:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 28747199EE for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 00:13:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <977a4936ca81cc4eebf2ae20ca27f679@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Venti for Fossil From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: <5d1d86bb7741881a9e46b24e29142fcc@plan9.bell-labs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:14:36 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > On Wed Jul 30 23:48:31 EDT 2003, okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp wrote: >> When I want to close venti or fossil server, I just kill those >> processes? I read venti/sync command, and I think I got it >> right. >> >> Kenji > > There's a fossil 'sync' command too. Thanks, I also got a reply from Andrey to see fossilcons(8). âş I'm now copying whole of our file server to dunite fossil+venti, which have two disks /dev/sdC0: 40GB, /dev/sdC1: 120GB). Fossil file system is on 40GB disk, and whole of arenas are on 120GB disk, index section of the venti is on 40GB disk, too. It seems to be working... Some interesting commands seem to be added, for example unhalt! Halt may have different meaning from that of the old file server. What is the reason of those difference? Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 14:04:24 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 14:04:24 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 31345 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 14:04:08 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 31318 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 14:03:40 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 14:03:40 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 55F8319BBC; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 01:03:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1C31719BBC; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 01:03:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8EBF919BBC; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 01:02:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5924E19B92 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 01:02:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Venti for Fossil From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: <977a4936ca81cc4eebf2ae20ca27f679@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 14:03:17 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Some interesting commands seem to be added, for example > unhalt! Halt may have different meaning from that of the old > file server. What is the reason of those difference? Aha! probably, this asumes kfs is running for the fossil file server. I thought why it is neccessary when fossil file server is stopped where that fossil server is the only one file server in the Plan 9 network... Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 16:48:47 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 16:48:47 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 6483 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 16:48:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 6479 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 16:48:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 16:48:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4C2D919BE4; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 03:48:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.6.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4B70619B3F; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 03:48:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3987D19BCB; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 03:47:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3B4AA19B0B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 03:47:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6V7YHnp018539 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:34:27 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h6V7Y5NO018538 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:34:05 +0200 (SAST) From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Additional software... Message-ID: <20030731093346.K1666@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Mail-Followup-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: <20030730150857.D1666@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <25981db9bf29e9d73005c0a79c1577b9@plan9.bell-labs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: <25981db9bf29e9d73005c0a79c1577b9@plan9.bell-labs.com>; from David Presotto on Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 01:03:47PM -0400 Organization: Proxima Research & Development Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:33:53 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 01:03:47PM -0400, David Presotto wrote: > > Actually, I meant this was fixed. haven't done anything about > the description for perl. I can confirm both :-) The installed version of perl seems to be 5.8.0 (as the heading suggests). I get error: copying /n/fossil/sys/src/cmd/perl/t/lib/db-recno.t: '/n/dist/sys/src/cmd/perl/t/lib/db-recno.t' does not exist error: copying /n/fossil/sys/src/cmd/perl/t/lib/opcode.t: '/n/dist/sys/src/cmd/perl/t/lib/opcode.t' does not exist from replica/pull, but the remainder seems perfectly OK (no, I'm not going to test it unless someone makes it really easy to do). I am busy downloading the contribs. ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 17:30:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 17:30:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 8526 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 17:30:37 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 8518 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 17:30:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 17:30:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E577C19C19; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 04:30:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9815719B92; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 04:30:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6559B19BFA; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 04:29:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from larch (unknown [195.173.15.12]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 95F6119ABC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 04:29:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <28cbe19e5474cf6db7ca08daae97e949@yourdomain.dom> From: steve.simon@snellwilcox.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [9fans] 9p & read-ahead Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:29:39 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi, I am thinking of adding read-ahead to a 9p server. Is this a sensible thing to do? Am I being foolish and indulging in bloatware or is it a sensible optimisation? My server is my Netware client. Directory scans of big directrories is slow as is copying files. Looking at iostats it looks like read is at fault. Netware allows me to read big chunks of files and to scan for multiple directory entries, So this is fairly easy, I was planning to add a timeout on the buffer of a seccond or two, so I don't get stale info. Anyone any strong views about this? -Steve From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 17:39:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 17:39:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 8862 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 17:39:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 8858 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 17:39:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 17:39:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2A32E19C2F; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 04:39:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C041619C0B; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 04:39:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id C85C019C0B; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 04:38:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams003.ftl.affinity.com (lvs00-fl.valueweb.net [216.219.253.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0741E19ABC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 04:38:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coma ([81.64.132.185]) by ams.ftl.affinity.com with SMTP id <216530-31506>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 04:37:38 -0400 Message-ID: <042601c3573e$f74ccbe0$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <28cbe19e5474cf6db7ca08daae97e949@yourdomain.dom> Subject: Re: [9fans] 9p & read-ahead MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:37:23 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I am thinking of adding read-ahead to a 9p server. why not, as long as it's simple. trying to be too smart is a lost cause when it comes to caches etc ... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 18:09:42 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 18:09:42 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 9704 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 18:09:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 9700 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 18:09:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 18:09:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6FD9719C29; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:09:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B2E5019A8C; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:09:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9833319A85; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:08:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CCF0719A27 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:08:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19i9CD-0006qO-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:54:01 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Ralph Corderoy Message-ID: <3ffd.3f282b58.5c756@blake.inputplus.co.uk> Organization: InputPlus Ltd. References: <002501c35610$8690ae00$b9844051@insultant.net>, <02afb320ca7a4f7697d96170bbda5df2@caldo.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: [9fans] A small fix for nedmail. Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:52:11 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi, > i usually take the easy way out and write ``N message(s)'' Or messages: N Cheers, -- Ralph Corderoy. http://inputplus.co.uk/ralph/ http://troff.org/ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 18:09:51 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 18:09:51 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 9718 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 18:09:50 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 9713 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 18:09:49 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 18:09:49 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 19BD819A8C; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:09:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 312E619C2B; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:09:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9384719A8C; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:08:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C3F3019A27 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:08:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 19i9CE-0006qU-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:54:02 +0100 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Ralph Corderoy Message-ID: <479a.3f283f82.db961@blake.inputplus.co.uk> Organization: InputPlus Ltd. References: Subject: Re: [9fans] [even more off topic] 'The Practice of Programming' & Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:52:26 GMT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi rob, > bwk did the typesetting, on IRIX, but the tools were the same as on > plan 9 and i used plan 9 at the time. The C++ pm post-processor hasn't made it to later Plan 9s though, so I guess it needs Unix to produce these days? Cheers, -- Ralph Corderoy. http://inputplus.co.uk/ralph/ http://troff.org/ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 18:11:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 18:11:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 9783 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 18:11:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 9779 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 18:11:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 18:11:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2950E19A85; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:11:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8EECF19A40; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:11:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 124C519A85; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:10:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D044219A27 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:10:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2b5d0d09c2c3151feedf42f54271b1d0@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Venti for Fossil From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 18:11:09 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) One more question. If I have a filesystem which I don't want to write to venti, such as other in the old file server, I think I should not dispatch the command of fsys other config /dev/sdC0/other ,instead, I should just do fsys other open without config command to this file system. However, if I have no config command, how the system knows where is other file system? kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 18:15:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 18:15:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 9840 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 18:15:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 9836 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 18:15:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 18:15:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 124B219C31; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:15:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 44AA619C30; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:15:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3174819C1B; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:14:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from larch (unknown [195.173.15.12]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3D48719A27 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:14:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0d14120d75d8afba67f654fdbb2ed114@yourdomain.dom> From: steve.simon@snellwilcox.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] [even more off topic] 'The Practice of Programmi In-Reply-To: <3400685270@snellwilcox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-gtgkcxeqihbopzbplivgpsqvnm" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:13:59 +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-gtgkcxeqihbopzbplivgpsqvnm Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rob posted the source on this list and I and others compiled it with the 2nd edition C++ compiler (cfront) - it is available if anyone needs it. -Steve --upas-gtgkcxeqihbopzbplivgpsqvnm Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:52:26 +0100 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu bcc: "Steve Simon" From: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Sender: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Importance: normal Priority: normal Subject: Re: [9fans] [even more off topic] 'The Practice of Programmi Message-Id: <3400685270@snellwilcox.com> X-MIME-Engine: v0.90 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Id: <3400685270-1@snellwilcox.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi rob, > bwk did the typesetting, on IRIX, but the tools were the same as on > plan 9 and i used plan 9 at the time. The C++ pm post-processor hasn't made it to later Plan 9s though, so I guess it needs Unix to produce these days? Cheers, -- = Ralph Corderoy. http://inputplus.co.uk/ralph/ http://troff.org/ --upas-gtgkcxeqihbopzbplivgpsqvnm-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 18:22:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 18:22:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 9986 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 18:22:37 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 9982 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 18:22:37 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 18:22:37 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D015819C37; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:22:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3016419C2B; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:22:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B60E519C39; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:21:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nautilus.escet.urjc.es (nautilus.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.207]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4418919C30 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:21:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2d97fdda6df73be3e24a035c41a54a62@plan9.escet.urjc.es> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Venti for Fossil From: Fco.J.Ballesteros In-Reply-To: <2b5d0d09c2c3151feedf42f54271b1d0@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-stlqxgmqwkqxxwkveckbgqtsfu" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:21:33 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-stlqxgmqwkqxxwkveckbgqtsfu Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is what we use. main is archived to venti; once is not. srv -p fscons srv -p fscmd msg -m 100 -p 15 srv boot fsys main config /dev/fs/fossil fsys main open -c 20000 fsys main snaptime -s 60 -a 0500 -t 6048 listen il!*!17008 listen tcp!*!564 fsys once config /dev/fs/once fsys once open -c 2000 fsys main --upas-stlqxgmqwkqxxwkveckbgqtsfu Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by aquamar; Thu Jul 31 11:11:29 MDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D5CCD19C31; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:11:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8EECF19A40; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:11:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 124C519A85; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:10:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D044219A27 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:10:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2b5d0d09c2c3151feedf42f54271b1d0@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Venti for Fossil From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 18:11:09 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) One more question. If I have a filesystem which I don't want to write to venti, such as other in the old file server, I think I should not dispatch the command of fsys other config /dev/sdC0/other ,instead, I should just do fsys other open without config command to this file system. However, if I have no config command, how the system knows where is other file system? kenji --upas-stlqxgmqwkqxxwkveckbgqtsfu-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 18:33:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 18:33:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10417 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 18:33:32 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10413 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 18:33:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 18:33:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 2DEC919C3A; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:33:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9F98619C1B; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:33:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 36B6D19C2B; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:32:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nautilus.escet.urjc.es (nautilus.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.207]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4A0EF19C0B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:32:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <69f21df2e47d5305bb89fb6c14ef117c@plan9.escet.urjc.es> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] CDROM boot failed, how can i do? From: Fco.J.Ballesteros In-Reply-To: <3F281E33.3050409@nas.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:32:46 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Could it be advantageous to change the boot menu to allow selection of > the CD-ROM location, to make it easier for newbies to > investigate/test/install? I'd prefer to get the same name for your cd everywhere, like a /dev/cd for the first cd unit found. I do that by hand by binding under /n. The price for not doing so is to have some programs look at /dev/sdC1 by default and others look at /dev/sdD1 (both things are wrong, depending on the pc you're using). Disks don't use to have that problem, since most boxes have them attached at sdC0, but cd units... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 18:34:33 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 18:34:33 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10435 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 18:34:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10431 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 18:34:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 18:34:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 23C0819C3D; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:34:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9980C19C2B; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:34:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3596F19C2B; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:33:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F130419C0B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:33:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3c341e22cb460b41ee89a130923534cb@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Venti for Fossil From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: <2d97fdda6df73be3e24a035c41a54a62@plan9.escet.urjc.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 18:33:55 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Thanks nemo! > This is what we use. main is archived to venti; once is not. > > srv -p fscons > srv -p fscmd > msg -m 100 -p 15 > srv boot > fsys main config /dev/fs/fossil > fsys main open -c 20000 > fsys main > snaptime -s 60 -a 0500 -t 6048 > listen il!*!17008 > listen tcp!*!564 > fsys once config /dev/fs/once > fsys once open -c 2000 > fsys main I'm afraid, in this case, the once file system will be cleaned up by the line of > fsys once config /dev/fs/once ? Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 18:37:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 18:37:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10555 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 18:37:38 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10550 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 18:37:37 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 18:37:37 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3A86319C0B; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:37:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 888D519C0B; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:37:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 51AF219C2B; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:36:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nautilus.escet.urjc.es (nautilus.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.207]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6C94D19C0B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:36:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <6e13883f6a3ea7029944df073b7afdeb@plan9.escet.urjc.es> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Venti for Fossil From: Fco.J.Ballesteros In-Reply-To: <3c341e22cb460b41ee89a130923534cb@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:36:52 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > I'm afraid, in this case, the once file system will be cleaned up by > the line of What do you mean by `clean up' in this context? It for sure retains its previous contents... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 18:38:29 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 18:38:29 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10589 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 18:38:28 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10585 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 18:38:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 18:38:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8C8A019C3E; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:38:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4A91019C41; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:38:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3B1DB19C3B; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:37:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams005.ftl.affinity.com (lvs00-fl.valueweb.net [216.219.253.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2B04C19C3E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:37:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coma ([81.64.132.185]) by ams.ftl.affinity.com with SMTP id <216226-11477>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:36:50 -0400 Message-ID: <045401c35747$3c4ed640$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <69f21df2e47d5305bb89fb6c14ef117c@plan9.escet.urjc.es> Subject: Re: [9fans] CDROM boot failed, how can i do? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:36:35 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) From: <9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu> err, who is 9fans-admin? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 18:40:36 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 18:40:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10635 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 18:40:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10631 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 18:40:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 18:40:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5D1DF19C4B; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:40:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E281219C2B; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:40:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4A9C019C33; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:39:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 172F519C1B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:39:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <7445e688cc6810f6c143024b6828b590@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Venti for Fossil From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp In-Reply-To: <6e13883f6a3ea7029944df073b7afdeb@plan9.escet.urjc.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 18:40:26 +0900 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >> I'm afraid, in this case, the once file system will be cleaned up by >> the line of > > What do you mean by `clean up' in this context? > It for sure retains its previous contents... I was afraid "it for sure _not_ retained its previous contents". Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 18:47:34 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 18:47:34 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10778 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 18:47:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10774 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 18:47:32 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 18:47:32 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0BEEB19C46; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:47:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E038819ABC; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:47:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A0BFF19C3B; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:46:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wmail.atlantic.net (wmail.atlantic.net [209.208.0.84]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id C74A519C2B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:46:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5593 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 09:46:51 -0000 Received: from cpe-203-51-78-31.nsw.bigpond.net.au (HELO cc77109e) (203.51.78.31) by wmail.atlantic.net with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 09:46:51 -0000 Message-ID: <004b01c35748$b8796090$c901a8c0@cc77109e> From: "Bruce Ellis" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <28cbe19e5474cf6db7ca08daae97e949@yourdomain.dom> Subject: Re: [9fans] 9p & read-ahead Organization: www.chunder.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:44:28 +1000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) read-ahead is straightforward and has been done a few times under different moons. the server decides the policy and if gets it wrong then you know who to blame. write-ahead is more interesting and has been done a few times (by pb and me at least) - write-ahead being an immediate Rwrite when you are the policy man. (write errors poison the chan so the next T* gets an Rerror.) great for annoying people by streaming video in the unix room. brucee ----- Original Message ----- From: To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 6:29 PM Subject: [9fans] 9p & read-ahead > Hi, > > I am thinking of adding read-ahead to a 9p server. > Is this a sensible thing to do? Am I being foolish > and indulging in bloatware or is it a sensible > optimisation? etc From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 18:52:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 18:52:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10848 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 18:52:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10844 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 18:52:36 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 18:52:36 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D71C819C4A; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:52:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8D6F819C45; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:52:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 017BD19C33; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:51:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams002.ftl.affinity.com (lvs00-fl.valueweb.net [216.219.253.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1C1C119A73 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:51:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coma ([81.64.132.185]) by ams.ftl.affinity.com with SMTP id <557091-29832>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:50:46 -0400 Message-ID: <047301c35749$2ea68540$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <28cbe19e5474cf6db7ca08daae97e949@yourdomain.dom> <004b01c35748$b8796090$c901a8c0@cc77109e> Subject: Re: [9fans] 9p & read-ahead MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:50:31 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > read-ahead is straightforward ... the MD driver ... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 18:57:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 18:57:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 10946 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 18:57:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 10942 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 18:57:30 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 18:57:30 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4A2C119C4D; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:57:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4907319A81; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:57:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5795F19C33; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:56:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from myasci.pvk.cz (nat.pvk.cz [193.85.147.142]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9C84A19A73 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:56:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from myasci.pvk.cz (myasci [127.0.0.1]) by myasci.pvk.cz (8.12.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id h6V9uFud020439 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:56:15 +0200 Received: (from erikj@localhost) by myasci.pvk.cz (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h6V9uFCw020418 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:56:15 +0200 From: Erik Jahn To: Plan 9 conf <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Message-ID: <20030731095609.GB3856@myasci.pvk.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: [9fans] Update account Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: erik.jahn@pvk.cz List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:56:09 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hello i've tried to 'pull' newest sources but i have problem with authentication (message:authentication failed). I created yesterday account 'erikj2' but how could i find out if is it ready ? Or could it be some other problem ? I checked with netstat if i am really connected - it's ok, dns, gateway all works well. Thank you, Erik From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 19:12:35 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 19:12:35 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11281 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 19:12:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11277 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 19:12:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 19:12:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id DA1B619C51; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:12:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9902219C48; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:12:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 77EC719C40; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:11:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams005.ftl.affinity.com (lvs00-fl.valueweb.net [216.219.253.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id ABE9C19AAF for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:11:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coma ([81.64.132.185]) by ams.ftl.affinity.com with SMTP id <218321-11475>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:10:41 -0400 Message-ID: <049a01c3574b$f6791540$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <20030731095609.GB3856@myasci.pvk.cz> Subject: Re: [9fans] Update account MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:10:25 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGOTTEN_PASSWORD,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) create another one and try again. i have two :) 'cos i forgot the password of the first one, but then i realised it was obviously the password i use on plan 9. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 19:15:35 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 19:15:35 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11353 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 19:15:34 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11349 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 19:15:34 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 19:15:34 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id D034019C38; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:15:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7DA4C19C40; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:15:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 150A019C48; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:14:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from myasci.pvk.cz (nat.pvk.cz [193.85.147.142]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CC79619C40 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:14:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from myasci.pvk.cz (myasci [127.0.0.1]) by myasci.pvk.cz (8.12.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id h6VAE8ud021843 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:14:08 +0200 Received: (from erikj@localhost) by myasci.pvk.cz (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h6VAE76L021841 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:14:07 +0200 From: Erik Jahn To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Update account Message-ID: <20030731101401.GC3856@myasci.pvk.cz> References: <20030731095609.GB3856@myasci.pvk.cz> <049a01c3574b$f6791540$b9844051@insultant.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2:utf-8" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <049a01c3574b$f6791540$b9844051@insultant.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: erik.jahn@pvk.cz List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:14:01 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGOTTEN_PASSWORD,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Dne 31 čec 2003 boyd@insultant.net napsal(a): > create another one and try again. > > i have two :) 'cos i forgot the password of the first one, but > then i realised it was obviously the password i use on plan 9. This IS my second :-))) Erik From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 19:20:41 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 19:20:41 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11474 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 19:20:40 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11470 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 19:20:39 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 19:20:39 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E640919C56; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:20:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 20D6819C58; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:20:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5D7D619C48; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:19:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nautilus.escet.urjc.es (nautilus.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.207]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 198E519C40 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:19:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Update account From: Fco.J.Ballesteros In-Reply-To: <20030731101401.GC3856@myasci.pvk.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-avfnylgzyznbsdxctiphizrzom" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:19:50 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGOTTEN_PASSWORD,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-avfnylgzyznbsdxctiphizrzom Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Don't worry, I think I created three or so :-) --upas-avfnylgzyznbsdxctiphizrzom Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by aquamar; Thu Jul 31 12:15:32 MDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id E42E619C55; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:15:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7DA4C19C40; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:15:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 150A019C48; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:14:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from myasci.pvk.cz (nat.pvk.cz [193.85.147.142]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CC79619C40 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:14:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from myasci.pvk.cz (myasci [127.0.0.1]) by myasci.pvk.cz (8.12.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id h6VAE8ud021843 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:14:08 +0200 Received: (from erikj@localhost) by myasci.pvk.cz (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h6VAE76L021841 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:14:07 +0200 From: Erik Jahn To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Update account Message-ID: <20030731101401.GC3856@myasci.pvk.cz> References: <20030731095609.GB3856@myasci.pvk.cz> <049a01c3574b$f6791540$b9844051@insultant.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2:utf-8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <049a01c3574b$f6791540$b9844051@insultant.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: erik.jahn@pvk.cz List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:14:01 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGOTTEN_PASSWORD,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dne 31 =E8ec 2003 boyd@insultant.net napsal(a): > create another one and try again. >=20 > i have two :) 'cos i forgot the password of the first one, but > then i realised it was obviously the password i use on plan 9. This IS my second :-)))=20 Erik --upas-avfnylgzyznbsdxctiphizrzom-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 19:26:42 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 19:26:42 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 11590 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 19:26:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 11586 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 19:26:31 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 19:26:31 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 4D58519C53; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:26:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C84FC19B30; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:26:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 243A219B30; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:25:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ams005.ftl.affinity.com (lvs00-fl.valueweb.net [216.219.253.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5502819AD8 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:25:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coma ([81.64.132.185]) by ams.ftl.affinity.com with SMTP id <218562-11471>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:24:17 -0400 Message-ID: <04ac01c3574d$dd29ac60$b9844051@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <20030731095609.GB3856@myasci.pvk.cz> <049a01c3574b$f6791540$b9844051@insultant.net> <20030731101401.GC3856@myasci.pvk.cz> Subject: Re: [9fans] Update account MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:24:01 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > This IS my second :-))) well i'm 9fs'd to it right now and it works fine. 9fs sources -- damn impressive. ok, let me get another window ... yup, works like charm. then again, dan cross did all the hard work. i'm just drawterm'd from paris to his net and 9fs'd to the labs. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 20:14:37 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 20:14:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13141 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 20:14:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13137 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 20:14:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 20:14:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A8C5419C59; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:14:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 67BE919BF3; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:14:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 70FE719C33; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:13:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay4-dav92.bay4.hotmail.com [65.54.171.122]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A112A19BF3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:13:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 04:13:29 -0700 Received: from 202.105.138.50 by bay4-dav92.bay4.hotmail.com with DAV; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:13:28 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [202.105.138.50] X-Originating-Email: [hehaiyang@msn.com] From: "River He" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <03073021464200.00510@localhost.localdomain> Subject: Re: [9fans] CDROM boot failed, how can i do? 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Thu Jul 31 20:27:36 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13384 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 20:27:36 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13380 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 20:27:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 20:27:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 7397F19C42; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:27:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F06A019C33; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:27:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 77F5019C40; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:26:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from einstein.ssz.com (unknown [207.200.56.4]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 648FB19BF3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:26:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ravage@localhost) by einstein.ssz.com (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h6VBROj14987 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:27:24 -0500 From: Jim Choate To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> In-Reply-To: <28cbe19e5474cf6db7ca08daae97e949@yourdomain.dom> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] Re: 9p & read-ahead Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:27:24 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,RCVD_IN_NJABL, RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM,RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, USER_AGENT_PINE,X_NJABL_OPEN_PROXY version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 steve.simon@snellwilcox.com wrote: > Anyone any strong views about this? Add a switch so that anyone who does in a negative way can turn it off. -- ____________________________________________________________________ We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, "Plan 9 from Outer Space" ravage@ssz.com jchoate@open-forge.org www.ssz.com www.open-forge.org -------------------------------------------------------------------- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 20:40:53 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 20:40:53 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13559 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 20:40:52 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13555 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 20:40:51 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 20:40:51 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 0ABE219C61; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:40:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CE91F19C40; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:40:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id CCD8C19C47; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:39:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from einstein.ssz.com (unknown [207.200.56.4]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9CD5319C40 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:39:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ravage@localhost) by einstein.ssz.com (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h6VBeUI15113; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:40:31 -0500 From: Jim Choate To: Plan 9 conf <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Cc: In-Reply-To: <20030731095609.GB3856@myasci.pvk.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] Re: Update account Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:40:30 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, RCVD_IN_NJABL,RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE, X_NJABL_OPEN_PROXY version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Erik Jahn wrote: > Hello i've tried to 'pull' newest sources but i have problem with > authentication (message:authentication failed). I created yesterday account > 'erikj2' but how could i find out if is it ready ? Or could it be some other > problem ? I checked with netstat if i am really connected - it's ok, dns, gateway > all works well. There is a variable delay from the time you create your account until it is actually available. When you do the pull and it asks you for the account and password and it works you then know things are well. What I usually advise folks is do it the day before they decide on an install. The question I have is how long before an account goes stale?... -- ____________________________________________________________________ We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, "Plan 9 from Outer Space" ravage@ssz.com jchoate@open-forge.org www.ssz.com www.open-forge.org -------------------------------------------------------------------- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 20:56:45 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 20:56:45 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 13845 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 20:56:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 13841 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 20:56:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 20:56:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 8F2FB19C66; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:56:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E2CA219C5E; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:56:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id B250919C41; 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Thu Jul 31 21:30:37 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 14676 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 21:30:35 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 14672 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 21:30:35 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 21:30:35 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3199619C6D; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:30:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 478E419C5E; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:30:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 9A1D019C5B; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:29:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from einstein.ssz.com (unknown [207.200.56.4]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4F37D19C41 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:29:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ravage@localhost) by einstein.ssz.com (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h6VCUrA16087; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:30:53 -0500 From: Jim Choate To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Cc: In-Reply-To: <002601c35610$8f678ee0$b9844051@insultant.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [9fans] Bug Report: snoopy & system load Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:30:53 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,RCVD_IN_NJABL,RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_NJABL_OPEN_PROXY version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi, Since there isn't any sort of place to register bugs and such I thought I'd pass it along. snoopy will throw 'read exceptions' during a pull on a P2 133MHz with 128M of RAM. The pull seems to go fine but snoopy seems to have a problem after about 2-3 minutes of operation. I've run snoopy on this exact same machine for days on end withou a hitch on several previous occassions. -- ____________________________________________________________________ We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, "Plan 9 from Outer Space" ravage@ssz.com jchoate@open-forge.org www.ssz.com www.open-forge.org -------------------------------------------------------------------- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 21:50:35 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 21:50:35 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15024 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 21:50:33 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15020 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 21:50:33 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 21:50:33 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A5D4119C80; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:50:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9320519C5E; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:50:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id A054019C63; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:49:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 08E0319C41 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:49:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA19950 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:49:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h6VCn9707179 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:49:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307311249.h6VCn9707179@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Update account In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:24:01 +0200." <04ac01c3574d$dd29ac60$b9844051@insultant.net> From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:49:09 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > then again, dan cross did all the hard work. i'm just drawterm'd from > paris to his net and 9fs'd to the labs. Actually, I'd have to say that Russ did all the real hard work. :-) - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 21:52:31 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 21:52:31 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15092 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 21:52:31 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15082 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 21:52:28 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 21:52:28 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BA52B19C69; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:52:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9660519C58; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:52:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 3B5A819BF3; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:51:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9504E1998C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:51:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA20184 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:51:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h6VCp6707205 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:51:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200307311251.h6VCp6707205@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Bug Report: snoopy & system load In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:30:53 CDT." From: Dan Cross Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:51:06 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > Since there isn't any sort of place to register bugs and such I thought > I'd pass it along. 9trouble@plan9.bell-labs.com - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 22:00:39 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 22:00:39 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15314 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 22:00:37 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15310 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 22:00:37 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 22:00:37 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 42A1019C6F; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:00:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 876B919C41; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:00:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 59A2F19C41; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:59:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 781B419A87 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:59:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1cd75ed3babe75eca1037502332e0caf@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: David Presotto To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Update account In-Reply-To: <20030731095609.GB3856@myasci.pvk.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-xbsaeluadsralnvogcnqvzpxzr" Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:59:23 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-xbsaeluadsralnvogcnqvzpxzr Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit They are ready as soon as you add them. You might learn more if you turn factotum debugging on: 1) create a window 2) in it 'echo debug > /mnt/factotum/ctl' then 'cat /dev/kprint' 3) try to pull and then send me the output from factotum. 4) finish with 'echo debug > /mnt/factotum/ctl' to turn debugging off --upas-xbsaeluadsralnvogcnqvzpxzr Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([135.104.9.2]) by plan9; Thu Jul 31 05:57:28 EDT 2003 Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Thu Jul 31 05:57:26 EDT 2003 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id BA78919C53; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:57:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.16.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0F6F519A73; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:57:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 5795F19C33; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:56:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from myasci.pvk.cz (nat.pvk.cz [193.85.147.142]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9C84A19A73 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 05:56:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from myasci.pvk.cz (myasci [127.0.0.1]) by myasci.pvk.cz (8.12.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id h6V9uFud020439 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:56:15 +0200 Received: (from erikj@localhost) by myasci.pvk.cz (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h6V9uFCw020418 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:56:15 +0200 From: Erik Jahn To: Plan 9 conf <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Message-ID: <20030731095609.GB3856@myasci.pvk.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: [9fans] Update account Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: erik.jahn@pvk.cz List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:56:09 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hello i've tried to 'pull' newest sources but i have problem with authentication (message:authentication failed). I created yesterday account 'erikj2' but how could i find out if is it ready ? Or could it be some other problem ? I checked with netstat if i am really connected - it's ok, dns, gateway all works well. Thank you, Erik --upas-xbsaeluadsralnvogcnqvzpxzr-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-admin Thu Jul 31 22:08:32 JST 2003 remote from ar Received: from vega.aichi-u.ac.jp ([202.16.124.3]) by ar; Thu Jul 31 22:08:32 JST 2003 Received: (qmail 15481 invoked by uid 1020); 31 Jul 2003 22:08:30 +0900 Delivered-To: arisawa@aichi-u.ac.jp Received: (qmail 15477 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2003 22:08:29 +0900 Received: from niscan1.aichi-u.ac.jp (HELO mail.cse.psu.edu) (202.16.124.100) by vega.aichi-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 22:08:29 +0900 Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id EB59C19AEC; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:08:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.23.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4B9F319A80; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:08:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 62B1A199BC; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:07:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sparkle.iba.co.za (sparkle.iba.co.za [196.30.44.140]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2AC9819981 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:07:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foible.proxima.alt.za (prawn.iba.co.za [192.168.30.22]) by sparkle.iba.co.za (8.11.7/8.11.5) with SMTP id h6VD6Vb02340 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 15:06:35 +0200 (SAST) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: lucio@proxima.alt.za MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-aghuctziymuuixsrjzwowautkg" X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.4.3(snapshot 20030221) (sparkle) Subject: [9fans] A very old picture of me Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 15:06:36 +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, 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(psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 11D0119AF5; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:52:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server, from userid 60001) id 6B25119ABC; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:51:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.7.68]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8092219AE6 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:51:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6VDpneH003865 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:51:49 -0600 Received: from localhost (mirtchov@localhost) by fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6VDpniZ003861 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:51:49 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fbsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca: mirtchov owned process doing -bs From: andrey mirtchovski To: plan9 <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] CDROM boot failed, how can i do? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:51:49 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) because 9load cannot find your cdrom drive. as others suggested: - try switching its place -- if it's on the second ide slot move it to the first, if on the first -- move it to the second - try it without the hard drive in - try a floppy disk experiment. the documentation is on the plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9dist web page, see Papers, Man pages and Wiki. On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, River He wrote: > Thank for your help. > > I burn plan9.iso to a CDROM, when it prompt "boot form:" > I typed as below: > sdD0!cdboot!9pccd.gz > but it display: > unknown partition sdD0!cdboot > and return to > "boot from:" > > why? >