From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Oct 25 07:42:37 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Oct 25 07:42:37 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 390EE63AA7 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:09:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [9fans] Drawterm crashing on a Mac. 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If you think that your messages are being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at 9fans-owner@cse.psu.edu. --===============1915787747== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4D08C63A9B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:09:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03236-01-11 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:09:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ar.aichi-u.ac.jp (ar.aichi-u.ac.jp [202.250.160.40]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7C0EF63A4B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:09:34 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: <32a656c204102413236b127923@mail.gmail.com> References: <32a656c204102413236b127923@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <5B11AE18-2609-11D9-BCD5-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: arisawa@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: [9fans] Drawterm crashing on a Mac. Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:09:20 +0900 To: Vester Thacker , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu I have other types of troubles with drawterm on Mac OSX 10.3 + X11 1.0. - ugly yellow acme windows. - characters become invisible suddenly. Therefore I don't use drawterm. Plan 9 terminal on Virtual PC is slow but it is steady and starts up quickly. Kenji Arisawa --===============1915787747==-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Oct 25 08:37:39 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Oct 25 08:37:39 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 355CB63E5D for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:37:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [9fans] Drawterm crashing on a Mac. 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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:48:07 +0900 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu I have other types of troubles with drawterm on Mac OSX 10.3 + X11 1.0. - ugly yellow acme windows. - characters become invisible suddenly. Therefore I don't use drawterm. Plan 9 terminal on VirtualPC is slow but it is steady and starts up quickly. 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In-Reply-To: <276E5AC6-2617-11D9-BCD5-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <32a656c204102413236b127923@mail.gmail.com> <276E5AC6-2617-11D9-BCD5-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Rob Pike , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu no morning coffee. s/vmware/vnc/ -rob From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Oct 25 08:52:57 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Oct 25 08:52:57 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4C33B63F06 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:52:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D15F663E9A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:52:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 17661-02-78 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:52:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 928D563C85 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:52:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 79so295394rnk for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:52:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=WRsJziBx+4vnfLQ04ACUTvKkybSvt2da5yuyG7BJWren+FdbUFm8yTJSxXbUaPVvhGenx9lbK9Smaop88PaWeXiUTb+j4zh41czBz/2ir3C2UDkf7Z0XdlEvAn/PDFuJ8nMDhuY4g7H/7sEbAihdYehr8v2HWfy/N456XdkKHFw= Received: by 10.39.2.27 with SMTP id e27mr794837rni; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.77.20 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7359f049041024165248d52c8e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:52:25 -0700 From: Rob Pike To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Drawterm crashing on a Mac. In-Reply-To: <276E5AC6-2617-11D9-BCD5-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <32a656c204102413236b127923@mail.gmail.com> <276E5AC6-2617-11D9-BCD5-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Rob Pike , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Oh yes, invisible characters, that too. Although that stops happening at some point and it's fine after that. -rob From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Oct 25 09:39:18 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Oct 25 09:39:18 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AD26C6192 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:38:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6788463EDA for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:38:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02722-01-2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:38:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D9B9463ED8 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:38:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 79so297459rnk for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:38:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=RUxZePsRPZeg89/3FfasHi1rtdYxT5zZOpJdxd49CrwY+ksBk/r6j1wHyJTAXVHo9PU/VAi9HF95vt7usw4USrsnkNbJ4ecjdpfas4Nl7UHVviHUDiiLOWFEq18IlJCmZ9iMCs6uB6kS7R/KU4RZugo6y2q5fZJZdo+3MlKWNmE= Received: by 10.38.15.13 with SMTP id 13mr819510rno; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.79.9 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <32a656c204102417385ad56885@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 01:38:05 +0100 From: Vester Thacker To: "arisawa@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp" Subject: Re: [9fans] Drawterm crashing on a Mac. In-Reply-To: <5B11AE18-2609-11D9-BCD5-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <32a656c204102413236b127923@mail.gmail.com> <5B11AE18-2609-11D9-BCD5-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Vester Thacker , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Copy: yes Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:09:20 +0900, arisawa@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp wrote: > I have other types of troubles with drawterm on Mac OSX 10.3 + X11 1.0. > - ugly yellow acme windows. > - characters become invisible suddenly. > > Therefore I don't use drawterm. > Plan 9 terminal on Virtual PC is slow but it is steady and starts up > quickly. I'll give Virtual PC a try. Thanks for your suggestion. --vester From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Oct 25 09:47:22 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Oct 25 09:47:22 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9C6D231725 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:47:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CA129C2BA for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:46:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 28015-01-71 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:46:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.192]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5D72EC2A2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:46:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 79so297887rnk for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:46:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=gfqgOW81f/BNVSMOZRHvjWqbGcd+Sc1MC8ClwDzPGxMLlWRcpyVTbszw+7+h065JOmWbjmxumfjMV7Cre0CXdeRQFRVNGD8z7RjzxdkymHRibQpmn3wiBsNMuJS4oBPfO33HNMnpNR0NiOJLsAVGLxGsmmmA48VrPakEOTicR04= Received: by 10.38.74.76 with SMTP id w76mr810689rna; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.79.9 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <32a656c204102417466acbf143@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 01:46:49 +0100 From: Vester Thacker To: Rob Pike , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Drawterm crashing on a Mac. In-Reply-To: <7359f049041024165248d52c8e@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <32a656c204102413236b127923@mail.gmail.com> <276E5AC6-2617-11D9-BCD5-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> <7359f049041024165248d52c8e@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Vester Thacker , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:52:25 -0700, Rob Pike wrote: > Oh yes, invisible characters, that too. Although that > stops happening at some point and it's fine after > that. I'll forgo using vnc on a mac. This has saved me from wasting more time and feeling more frustrated. Thank you. :) --vester From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Oct 25 10:46:38 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Oct 25 10:46:38 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C89A163D42 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:46:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1F38E63978 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:46:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 18288-01-72 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:46:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ar.aichi-u.ac.jp (ar.aichi-u.ac.jp [202.250.160.40]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5B78A62A49 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:46:04 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: <32a656c204102417385ad56885@mail.gmail.com> References: <32a656c204102413236b127923@mail.gmail.com> <5B11AE18-2609-11D9-BCD5-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> <32a656c204102417385ad56885@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <9E93448E-2627-11D9-BCD5-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: arisawa@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: [9fans] Drawterm crashing on a Mac. Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:45:59 +0900 To: Vester Thacker , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Virtual PC on Mac is helpful for administrative work for my Plan 9 servers and gives me handy operations to send HTML documents to my web server. However I don't recommend VPC for programming because it is slow. P.S: If you buy VPC, I recommend not to bundle win-XP license: - win-XP is too heavy for VPC - probably makes a serious problem when you upgrade VPC. Kenji Arisawa From gmail.com!vester.thacker Mon Oct 25 11:24:47 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from rproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.170.194]) by ar; Mon Oct 25 11:24:47 JST 2004 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 77so373498rnk for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:24:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=RUxZePsRPZeg89/3FfasHi1rtdYxT5zZOpJdxd49CrwY+ksBk/r6j1wHyJTAXVHo9PU/VAi9HF95vt7usw4USrsnkNbJ4ecjdpfas4Nl7UHVviHUDiiLOWFEq18IlJCmZ9iMCs6uB6kS7R/KU4RZugo6y2q5fZJZdo+3MlKWNmE= Received: by 10.38.15.13 with SMTP id 13mr819510rno; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.79.9 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <32a656c204102417385ad56885@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 01:38:05 +0100 From: Vester Thacker Reply-To: Vester Thacker To: "arisawa@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp" Subject: Re: [9fans] Drawterm crashing on a Mac. Cc: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> In-Reply-To: <5B11AE18-2609-11D9-BCD5-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <32a656c204102413236b127923@mail.gmail.com> <5B11AE18-2609-11D9-BCD5-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:09:20 +0900, arisawa@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp wrote: > I have other types of troubles with drawterm on Mac OSX 10.3 + X11 1.0. > - ugly yellow acme windows. > - characters become invisible suddenly. > > Therefore I don't use drawterm. > Plan 9 terminal on Virtual PC is slow but it is steady and starts up > quickly. I'll give Virtual PC a try. Thanks for your suggestion. --vester From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Oct 25 12:39:35 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Oct 25 12:39:35 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 720BB63F38 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:39:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C41A963F1B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:39:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12785-01-28 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:38:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 12BEB63F15 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:38:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 79so307795rnk for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:38:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZwnOm0ohg9r9LejQBJer/3U9TMQBADcu/+w0qYtxYgTmwUuASlo5bWOn6QX+ryceezts0haYCLBUOT63p3m9lBdoQrizBtJRViP0jFdocOuo7scj7/UzsXZZU2zvOc//ftx0tvvLMwAdwyOCa+whyX4noU8PqHxxVul0opFKhE0= Received: by 10.38.15.78 with SMTP id 78mr632883rno; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:38:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.75.16 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:38:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:38:58 -0400 From: jm3 / john manoogian III To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] mailman error changing passwd X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jm3 / john manoogian III , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu when clicking any of the mailman-generated links for the 9fans list (eg. change password, change my options, etc.), i get taken to the mailman login page (https://lists.cse.psu.edu/mailman/options/9fans/my-email-address). upon logging in with the password i was given, i'm redirected to this url (https://lists.cse.psu.edu/mailman/options/9fans) with the following error: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5 We're sorry, we hit a bug! If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/export/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main main() File "/export/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/options.py", line 226, in main password, user): File "/export/local/mailman/Mailman/SecurityManager.py", line 226, in WebAuthenticate print self.MakeCookie(ac, user) File "/export/local/mailman/Mailman/SecurityManager.py", line 233, in MakeCookie raise ValueError ValueError -- jm3 > http://feedmelinks.com john manoogian III < www.jm3.net A: No. Q: Should I include the quoted email AFTER my reply? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Oct 25 13:31:25 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Oct 25 13:31:25 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5A201C6741 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:30:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0A81D63D9F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:29:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 21635-01-21 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:29:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B36C063994 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:29:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Kenji Okamoto Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:31:02 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] IBM T42 X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there anyone using IBM T42 notebook? I got it for WinXP for my duty work, and it'll be used only for Powerpoint.=E2=98=BA However, if it's easy to run Plan 9 on it, I m= ay try it. So, the expected problems: (1) WaveLan Ok? (2) Radeon Ok? By the way, its disk space is only 30GB, and I think its not enough to use it both for WinXP and Plan 9 fossil+venti. How are the people running Plan 9 and Windows on such a notebook machine? Replaced HDD? or just use both on the 30GB HDD? Thanks in advance. Kenji PS. --->Russ. Do you have a plan to impleremt overlay mode to Savage4 kernel driver? It's neccessary tosee TV on Plan 9.=E2=98=BA From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Oct 25 13:37:15 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Oct 25 13:37:15 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 67A6763F4B for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:37:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 66F8363F11 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:36:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11513-02-20 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:36:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from galapagos.bx.psu.edu (galapagos.bx.psu.edu [128.118.201.21]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 64EC463EB3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:36:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2503 invoked by uid 991); 25 Oct 2004 04:36:43 -0000 Message-ID: <20041025043643.2502.qmail@g.galapagos.bx.psu.edu> Date: 25 Oct 2004 00:36:43 -0400 To: jm3 / john manoogian III , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] mailman error changing passwd In-reply-to: References: Comments: In-reply-to jm3 / john manoogian III message dated "Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:38:58 -0400." Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:36:43 -0400 From: Scott Schwartz X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu I'll forward you note to the mailman wranglers. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Oct 25 13:37:47 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Oct 25 13:37:47 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 27CB763F25 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:37:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9B48363F6C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:37:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 21635-01-43 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:37:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B44CE63F8F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:37:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 79so310871rnk for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:37:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=HU/oe/PGqAmn3u6NUI643Y4+mGXL66aIa2Xf2lWfWXVKdSAG1MtgHIVN2aEfCl0cSVjjdYFU3LmmEtpza81yjBxwPztg9jsp4b6erV03L/Up4BSbWDw0+be6nnHe9ix0RnMp/UCmahHa+PS3he/Ew8qPot2++8k41H8hxmBkQjs= Received: by 10.38.79.21 with SMTP id c21mr887537rnb; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.65.22 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:37:01 -0400 From: Russ Cox To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] IBM T42 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Russ Cox , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > PS. --->Russ. Do you have a plan to impleremt overlay mode > to Savage4 kernel driver? It's neccessary tosee TV on Plan 9.=E2=98=BA not in the forseeable future. 30GB should be enough for xp and plan9 on a laptop. on that disk i'd give fossil 4GB for other, 1GB for main, and venti 5GB. that's more than plenty for a laptop in my experience. russ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Oct 25 14:01:49 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Oct 25 14:01:49 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D6A0263EE0 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 01:01:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AEB7563EBC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 01:01:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 28695-01-36 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 01:00:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0B4DF63EB6 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 01:00:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: russcox@gmail.com, 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] IBM T42 From: Kenji Okamoto Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:01:45 +0900 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-jeaactfzwkcfgbjhxmmcychlzo" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-jeaactfzwkcfgbjhxmmcychlzo Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Russ. Ummm, so I have too many list of TODO. I have to forget some of them to maitain myself alive! Now, I have 'still picture' of TV programs in Japan=E2=98=BA, Fusion 878A= =20 and original 878 is a different chip, which I had to know it before. =20 It's difficult to get original 878 chipped TVtuner here now... Kenji --upas-jeaactfzwkcfgbjhxmmcychlzo Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from elmo.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp ([157.16.103.2]) by diabase; Mon Oct 25 13:39:03 JST 2004 Received: from intrepid.gw.osakafu-u.ac.jp (intrepid.gw.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.248.13]) by elmo.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (8.9.3p2+/3.7W-04071317) with ESMTP id NAA24922 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:37:26 +0900 (JST) Received: from washington.gw.osakafu-u.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by intrepid.gw.osakafu-u.ac.jp (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i9P4bPIs020292 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:37:25 +0900 (JST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by washington.gw.osakafu-u.ac.jp (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i9P4bOPR007994 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:37:24 +0900 (JST) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 02D9F63F3F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:37:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9B48363F6C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:37:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 21635-01-43 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:37:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B44CE63F8F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:37:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 79so310871rnk for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:37:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=HU/oe/PGqAmn3u6NUI643Y4+mGXL66aIa2Xf2lWfWXVKdSAG1MtgHIVN2aEfCl0cSVjjdYFU3LmmEtpza81yjBxwPztg9jsp4b6erV03L/Up4BSbWDw0+be6nnHe9ix0RnMp/UCmahHa+PS3he/Ew8qPot2++8k41H8hxmBkQjs= Received: by 10.38.79.21 with SMTP id c21mr887537rnb; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.65.22 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:37:01 -0400 From: Russ Cox To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] IBM T42 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Russ Cox , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+okamoto=granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+okamoto=granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > PS. --->Russ. Do you have a plan to impleremt overlay mode > to Savage4 kernel driver? It's neccessary tosee TV on Plan 9.=E2=98=BA not in the forseeable future. 30GB should be enough for xp and plan9 on a laptop. on that disk i'd give fossil 4GB for other, 1GB for main, and venti 5GB. that's more than plenty for a laptop in my experience. russ --upas-jeaactfzwkcfgbjhxmmcychlzo-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Oct 25 14:03:20 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Oct 25 14:03:20 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 00A2363FBC for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 01:03:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4011263F09 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 01:02:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02137-01-9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 01:02:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9115D63EDF for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 01:02:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <929ab9a5511a8a4e298e72cf78f9c616@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] IBM T42 From: Kenji Okamoto Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:04:25 +0900 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Now, I have 'still picture' of TV programs in Japan=E2=98=BA,=20 Of course with TV voice. Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Oct 25 15:02:13 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Oct 25 15:02:13 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1A53763F9B for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:01:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6A77863F2D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:00:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 06318-01-68 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:00:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.aprote.ee (ns.aprote.ee [80.235.78.106]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B336463F2B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:00:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: Message by Barricade ns.aprote.ee with ESMTP id i9P60bAB025255 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:00:37 +0300 Received: from tiitl.aprote.com ([192.168.1.68]) by black.aprote.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:00:42 +0300 To: "Russ Cox" , "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] IBM T42 References: Message-ID: From: "Tiit Lankots" Organization: Aprote Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:00:41 +0300 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera M2/7.54 (Win32, build 3865) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2004 06:00:42.0412 (UTC) FILETIME=[F5ED7EC0:01C4BA57] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > 30GB should be enough for xp and plan9 on a laptop. > on that disk i'd give fossil 4GB for other, 1GB for main, > and venti 5GB. that's more than plenty for a laptop > in my experience. What's the point of venti on a laptop anyway? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Oct 25 15:22:32 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Oct 25 15:22:32 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9294763F68 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:22:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9A8A06137 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:21:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 10896-01-40 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:21:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx2.net.titech.ac.jp (mx2.net.titech.ac.jp [131.112.125.31]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 9368663DC6 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:21:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8734 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2004 06:21:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vc2.net.titech.ac.jp) (131.112.125.36) by mx2.net.titech.ac.jp with SMTP; 25 Oct 2004 06:21:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO o.cc.titech.ac.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Oct 2004 06:21:39 -0000 Received: from valinore by mail-o.cc.titech.ac.jp (8.11.3/1.1.10.5/20Feb97-0455PM) id i9P6Lcq206799; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:21:38 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <2ebf9fc2a4ef3f2415825bbb661828b5@orthanc.cc.titech.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] IBM T42 From: YAMANASHI Takeshi <9.nashi@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:21:22 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Mon Oct 25 15:01:06 JST 2004, Tiit Lankots wrote: > What's the point of venti on a laptop anyway? You can make a backup to external venti with a single easy venti/copy -f. -- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Oct 25 17:17:22 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Oct 25 17:17:22 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5AFC863FD9 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 04:17:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BB3D663EED for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 04:16:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 07483-01-56 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 04:16:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lavoro.terzarima.net (spc1-york1-5-0-cust142.seac.broadband.ntl.com [80.0.45.142]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AEA9063EDF for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 04:16:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <7a7521674ec211d9edead08f15b0e1b6@terzarima.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] IBM T42 From: Charles Forsyth Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:07:00 0000 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu >What's the point of venti on a laptop anyway? you can replicate it (eg, for backup). you can reinitialise fossil from a venti archive. you can use the venti contents without fossil. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Oct 25 20:25:11 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Oct 25 20:25:11 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B6764C6776 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:24:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 498C563F2B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:24:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 06825-02-4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:24:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anvil.com (wonderwall.anvil.co.uk [194.193.52.253]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E608B63F21 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:24:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by anvil.com (Postfix, from userid 27) id 247B97568; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:28:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from mother.anvil.com (mother [192.168.4.4]) by anvil.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2FF673C2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:28:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.4.64] (zevon [192.168.4.64]) by mother.anvil.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2292317270 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:22:39 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <417CE240.5020504@anvil.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:23:44 +0100 From: Dave Lukes User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (X11/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] alright, this should be interesting References: <091e1ef6a5723141a92291638a2146fd@coraid.com> In-Reply-To: <091e1ef6a5723141a92291638a2146fd@coraid.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > As it did in my case, twenty-five years and counting. And it > gets better and better. Sadly, I have a counterexample. Dave. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Oct 25 23:14:15 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Oct 25 23:14:15 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 72BBA63FAE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:13:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 21CA163E7C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:13:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08051-01-18 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:13:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athena.softcardsystems.com (mail.softcardsystems.com [12.34.136.114]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C9F9963E3C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:13:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athena (athena [12.34.136.114]) by athena.softcardsystems.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9PFB4nI030200 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:11:05 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:11:04 -0500 (EST) From: Sam X-X-Sender: sah@athena To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Drawterm crashing on a Mac. In-Reply-To: <7359f049041024165248d52c8e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <32a656c204102413236b127923@mail.gmail.com> <276E5AC6-2617-11D9-BCD5-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> <7359f049041024165248d52c8e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > Oh yes, invisible characters, that too. Although that stops happening > at some point and it's fine after that. > Just a note to say that here drawterm on both FreeBSD and Linux have this feature, rather unpredictably. On FreeBSD playing with acme windows will often bring the characters back. Sam From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Oct 25 23:22:35 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Oct 25 23:22:35 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D87AF63F89 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:22:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CA8BF63DE3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:21:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 21515-01-6 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:21:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.ucalgary.ca (unknown [136.159.220.110]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1677763DB1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:21:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1f43f7c1e15133d59c88829b3626fbac@plan9.ucalgary.ca> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Drawterm crashing on a Mac. Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:21:51 -0600 From: andrey mirtchovski In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu >> Oh yes, invisible characters, that too. Although that stops happening >> at some point and it's fine after that. >> > > Just a note to say that here drawterm on both FreeBSD > and Linux have this feature, rather unpredictably. > On FreeBSD playing with acme windows will often > bring the characters back. > > Sam search the archives for a linux/bsd fix posted by david tolpin. it's not in the drawterms i distribute. andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Tue Oct 26 00:11:00 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Tue Oct 26 00:11:00 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 86F3463F20 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:10:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3B72B63B06 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:10:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24167-01-98 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:10:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailwasher-b.lanl.gov (mailwasher.lanl.gov [192.65.95.54]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B1F4763A2C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:10:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailrelay1.lanl.gov (mailrelay1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.101]) by mailwasher-b.lanl.gov (8.12.11/8.12.11/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id i9PFAOSB002081 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:10:25 -0600 Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (ccs-mail.lanl.gov [128.165.4.126]) by mailrelay1.lanl.gov (8.12.11/8.12.11/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id i9PEkRAC032386; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:46:27 -0600 Received: from linux.site (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.10/8.12.10/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id i9PEkRXT021883; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:46:27 -0600 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:46:27 -0600 (MDT) From: "Ronald G. Minnich" X-X-Sender: rminnich@linux.site To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] IBM T42 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.6.0.99824 X-PMX-Version: 4.6.0.99824 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: Russ Cox X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, Tiit Lankots wrote: > What's the point of venti on a laptop anyway? it's heavenly! try it sometime. ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Tue Oct 26 00:37:57 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Tue Oct 26 00:37:57 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B881863FDC for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:37:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AE79563E9A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:37:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09057-01-45 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:37:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from felix.quintile.net (cpc1-sout4-6-0-cust141.sot3.cable.ntl.com [81.96.207.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 225DE54B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:37:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: "Steve Simon" Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:37:04 0000 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] DST? X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Hi, Anyone else in the UK noticed their clocks seem to be wrong? Both home and work plan9 are an hour slow and their clocks are locked to two different ntp servers; I am wondering if /adm/timezone/GB-EIRE is wrong. -Steve From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Tue Oct 26 00:51:41 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Tue Oct 26 00:51:41 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A127B63F1A for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:51:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E9CBC63F02 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:50:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22569-01-24 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:50:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lavoro.terzarima.net (spc1-york1-5-0-cust142.seac.broadband.ntl.com [80.0.45.142]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A378C63E11 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:50:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <44b732cfcfe2689d8cf86f358303bbb1@terzarima.net> From: Charles Forsyth Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:51:27 +0100 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] DST? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-xazijxznkkagwregozcrnnwisx" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-xazijxznkkagwregozcrnnwisx Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit yes, it's wrong. it just happened to work last year because the old and new rules produced the same date. this year, they didn't. --upas-xazijxznkkagwregozcrnnwisx Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by lavoro; Mon Oct 25 16:39:03 BST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 82DE863F94 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:37:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AE79563E9A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:37:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09057-01-45 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:37:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from felix.quintile.net (cpc1-sout4-6-0-cust141.sot3.cable.ntl.com [81.96.207.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 225DE54B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:37:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: "Steve Simon" Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:37:04 0000 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] DST? X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+forsyth=terzarima.net@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+forsyth=terzarima.net@cse.psu.edu Hi, Anyone else in the UK noticed their clocks seem to be wrong? Both home and work plan9 are an hour slow and their clocks are locked to two different ntp servers; I am wondering if /adm/timezone/GB-EIRE is wrong. -Steve --upas-xazijxznkkagwregozcrnnwisx-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Tue Oct 26 02:05:48 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Tue Oct 26 02:05:48 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0424A63FCE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:05:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2A7D563F0B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:05:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12681-01-95 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:05:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sargazos.escet.urjc.es (sargazos.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.206]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1E2DF63F1B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:05:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: "Fco. J. Ballesteros" Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:05:02 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] "plumb at machine" rule for plumber X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Hi, I've just pushed to /n/sources/nemo a variant of plumber that includes a "plumb at machine" rule. I use this to send urls to a big wall screen (projector, actually). In general, if you have several terminals, and you want certain messages to be plumbed at a given machine, you add a plumb at machine to the rules you might have for that. Beware that messages are plumbed in the clear with no authentication. This is an experiment and we're very unsecure guys :-) hth From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Tue Oct 26 12:59:05 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Tue Oct 26 12:59:05 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 701FA63C3C for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:59:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C6D4163995 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:58:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 23401-01-71 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:58:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5763D63983 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:58:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <79eef454bb47c3297a779cc47b5beab8@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] TV/FM tuner From: Kenji Okamoto Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:59:26 +0900 In-Reply-To: <2c7f8bf5294e678a90ee415d8c723601@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-xnegqjtzvvvtpyhukmfyaxqhzj" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-xnegqjtzvvvtpyhukmfyaxqhzj Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok, now I'm enjoying Japanese TV program using Fusion 878A chip. Thank you very much Peter Bosch for you nice codes and help! Kenji --upas-xnegqjtzvvvtpyhukmfyaxqhzj Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from elmo.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp ([157.16.103.2]) by diabase; Fri Oct 8 18:36:11 JST 2004 Received: from intrepid.gw.osakafu-u.ac.jp (intrepid.gw.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.248.13]) by elmo.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (8.9.3p2+/3.7W-04071317) with ESMTP id SAA02378 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 18:34:43 +0900 (JST) Received: from washington.gw.osakafu-u.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by intrepid.gw.osakafu-u.ac.jp (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i989YhIs006201 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 18:34:43 +0900 (JST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.4.6]) by washington.gw.osakafu-u.ac.jp (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i989YcPR010343 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 18:34:42 +0900 (JST) Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DE78E63C22 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 05:34:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DA4BD63A8D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 05:34:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 15550-01-48 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 05:33:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7596863A74 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 05:33:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2c7f8bf5294e678a90ee415d8c723601@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Kenji Okamoto Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 18:34:29 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] TV/FM tuner X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+okamoto=granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+okamoto=granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Ok, I got a TV/FM tuner card, KW-TV878F, which is now recognized as #V0: Brooktree 878 TV tuner (rev 17) (MIRO/TEMIC PAL_I) intl 11 and bind -a '#'V /dev shows me a directory structure like: /dev/tv0/audio, ctl, regs, and video. cat /dev/tv0/ctl shows: 640x480x16 RGB16 channel 0. This card also has FM tuner, and I connected the audio connector to powered speaker, yes, I'm now hearing FM noise from it. Now, what I can do to watch TV? It seems to me there is no client program for this. Am I searching wrong? Kenji --upas-xnegqjtzvvvtpyhukmfyaxqhzj-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Tue Oct 26 16:11:24 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Tue Oct 26 16:11:24 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3EF2B63FB6 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:11:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AAE6663A14 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:10:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09001-01-10 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:09:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CA9E463A02 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:09:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <8c75fa92df406888ac1430f62d3818b0@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] TV/FM tuner From: Kenji Okamoto Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:11:12 +0900 In-Reply-To: <79eef454bb47c3297a779cc47b5beab8@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > Ok, now I'm enjoying Japanese TV program using Fusion 878A > chip. Thank you very much Peter Bosch for you nice codes and help! I forgot to describe the hardware I' using. Celereol 466MHz, and on board Savage4. TV tuner: AOpen VA1000Plus (Fusion 878A, and low profile) Memory: 384MB Antena: in door Antena with booster Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Tue Oct 26 16:14:56 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Tue Oct 26 16:14:56 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C93AB63B2C for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:14:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EBDD031690 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:14:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08999-01-20 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:14:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx2.net.titech.ac.jp (mx2.net.titech.ac.jp [131.112.125.31]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 2263131686 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:14:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6622 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2004 07:14:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vc2.net.titech.ac.jp) (131.112.125.36) by mx2.net.titech.ac.jp with SMTP; 26 Oct 2004 07:14:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO o.cc.titech.ac.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Oct 2004 07:14:14 -0000 Received: from valinore by mail-o.cc.titech.ac.jp (8.11.3/1.1.10.5/20Feb97-0455PM) id i9Q7ECq285667; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:14:12 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <1077dc1d1d1f80c61d92532acffa6372@orthanc.cc.titech.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] TV/FM tuner From: YAMANASHI Takeshi <9.nashi@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:14:11 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Tue Oct 26 16:10:57 JST 2004, Kenji Okamoto wrote: > > Ok, now I'm enjoying Japanese TV program using Fusion 878A > > chip. Thank you very much Peter Bosch for you nice codes and help! Could you let me import your device over the internet? :) -- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Tue Oct 26 16:15:58 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Tue Oct 26 16:15:58 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0F88E63A3B for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:15:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4ECEB3172A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:15:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08999-01-26 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:15:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nwkea-mail-1.sun.com (nwkea-mail-1.sun.com [192.18.42.13]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C233231691 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:15:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sfbaymail2sca.sfbay.sun.com ([129.145.155.42]) by nwkea-mail-1.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i9Q7FOs3026325 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:15:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from submarine.sfbay.sun.com (submarine.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.78.138]) by sfbaymail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10/ENSMAIL, v2.2) with ESMTP id i9Q7FEcA001566 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:15:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rs76089@localhost) by submarine.sfbay.sun.com (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id i9Q7FCo00673 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:15:12 -0700 From: Roman Shaposhnick To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] TV/FM tuner Message-ID: <20041026071512.GA658@submarine> References: <79eef454bb47c3297a779cc47b5beab8@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> <8c75fa92df406888ac1430f62d3818b0@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8c75fa92df406888ac1430f62d3818b0@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 04:11:12PM +0900, Kenji Okamoto wrote: > > Ok, now I'm enjoying Japanese TV program using Fusion 878A > > chip. Thank you very much Peter Bosch for you nice codes and help! > > I forgot to describe the hardware I' using. > > Celereol 466MHz, and on board Savage4. > TV tuner: AOpen VA1000Plus (Fusion 878A, and low profile) > Memory: 384MB > Antena: in door Antena with booster What exactly did you do to get a picture and sound ? An exact sequence of commands/steps will be appreciated. Thanks, Roman. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Tue Oct 26 16:23:52 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Tue Oct 26 16:23:52 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7509E63AD5 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:23:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5FC34316E5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09001-01-44 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:23:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DFF053168F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:23:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] TV/FM tuner From: Kenji Okamoto Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:24:34 +0900 In-Reply-To: <20041026071512.GA658@submarine> MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > What exactly did you do to get a picture and sound ? An exact sequence > of commands/steps will be appreciated. 1) make change to /sys/src/9/pc/devtv.c for Fusion 878A. 2) make small change to /sys/src/cmd/tv/tv.c for Fusion 878A. 3) if you are living outside US, check your frequency range, and add them to /sys/src/9/pc/devtc.c. The second source is not open so far. 3) cannot use overlay mode for Savage4, then make a command like: term% tv -C10 -l where C10 stands for 10 channel in japan, and l means use local device. Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Tue Oct 26 16:39:26 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Tue Oct 26 16:39:26 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3F8FE63ECA for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:39:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 91B6D63997 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:38:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08999-01-63 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:38:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 37A6463995 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:38:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <581bc88cda41c67b12b3a60732fd0d39@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] TV/FM tuner From: Kenji Okamoto Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:40:05 +0900 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > 3) if you are living outside US, check your frequency range, and add them > to /sys/src/9/pc/devtc.c. Oops! devtc.c -> devtv.c. Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Tue Oct 26 18:02:57 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Tue Oct 26 18:02:57 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2E89163E21 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 05:02:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 32029639A5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 05:02:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11087-01-15 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 05:02:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from prunelle.tombob.com (82-41-227-30.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [82.41.227.30]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C38D963994 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 05:02:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0b21283894acd9391cf9604ce58b401a@tombob.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] DST? Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:02:12 0000 From: Robert Raschke In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Steve wrote: > Anyone else in the UK noticed their clocks seem to be wrong? > Both home and work plan9 are an hour slow and their clocks are > locked to two different ntp servers; I am wondering if > /adm/timezone/GB-EIRE is wrong. Yup, wrong for me too. Does anyone know where to pick up the correct up-to-date versions of timezone files? I vaguely remember there being a central repository (i.e., non Plan 9 specific) which stores them for download. I definitely used them once for setting up my SGI. Robby From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Tue Oct 26 18:40:38 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Tue Oct 26 18:40:38 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 61C4563E6F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 05:40:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E9358639FE for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 05:39:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 15608-01-36 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 05:39:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-gw1.york.ac.uk (mail-gw1.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.246]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4F6D7639C2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 05:39:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [144.32.20.21] (whitegene.chem.york.ac.uk [144.32.20.21]) by mail-gw1.york.ac.uk (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9Q9doS5002899 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:39:50 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: <9E93448E-2627-11D9-BCD5-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> References: <32a656c204102413236b127923@mail.gmail.com> <5B11AE18-2609-11D9-BCD5-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> <32a656c204102417385ad56885@mail.gmail.com> <9E93448E-2627-11D9-BCD5-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Abhey Shah Subject: Re: [9fans] Drawterm crashing on a Mac. Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:39:53 +0100 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-York-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-York-MailScanner-From: as234@york.ac.uk X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu I've found drawterm usable but with funny colours at times, but i prefer Vnc over drawterm or virtual PC on the Mac because it also lets you paste into your plan 9 session. Virtual PC has the additional drawback if you're using a laptop without an external mouse that you have to do silly things like in the script below so that you can get middle button functionality (pressing shift and right button is not an option). cat bin/rc/bswa #!/bin/rc if (! test -e /env/buttonmap) {buttonmap=0} if(~ $buttonmap 1 ) { echo buttonmap 132 >/dev/mousectl buttonmap=0 } if not { echo buttonmap 123 >/dev/mousectl buttonmap=1 } Abhey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Tue Oct 26 23:16:18 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Tue Oct 26 23:16:18 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 057FF63B52 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:16:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A8B2663B88 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:15:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19749-01-47 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:15:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.vitanuova.com (unknown [213.146.155.10]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9C1D663A58 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:15:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] IBM T42 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:21:32 0000 From: rog@vitanuova.com In-Reply-To: <7a7521674ec211d9edead08f15b0e1b6@terzarima.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > >What's the point of venti on a laptop anyway? > > you can replicate it (eg, for backup). > you can reinitialise fossil from a venti archive. > you can use the venti contents without fossil. not to mention archive and snapshot. i'd find it difficult to survive without these... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Oct 27 01:14:41 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Oct 27 01:14:41 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EF8F463DAF for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:14:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CE0AC639A5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:14:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25336-01-93 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:14:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.aprote.ee (ns.aprote.ee [80.235.78.106]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E809663997 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:13:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: Message by Barricade ns.aprote.ee with ESMTP id i9QGDn1V016033 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:13:50 +0300 Received: from tiitl.aprote.com ([192.168.1.68]) by black.aprote.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:13:55 +0300 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:13:54 +0300 To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] IBM T42 References: From: "Tiit Lankots" Organization: Aprote Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera M2/7.54 (Win32, build 3865) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2004 16:13:55.0990 (UTC) FILETIME=[CB05B360:01C4BB76] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> >What's the point of venti on a laptop anyway? >> >> you can replicate it (eg, for backup). >> you can reinitialise fossil from a venti archive. >> you can use the venti contents without fossil. > > not to mention archive and snapshot. > > i'd find it difficult to survive without these... > I mean, do you just keep your laptop running all the time or do you force a snapshot at a convenient point. Forcing a snapshot is an explicit action of backing up and can as well be performed on an external venti? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Oct 27 01:23:05 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Oct 27 01:23:05 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 822BC5ED6 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:22:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E0502270 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:21:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05491-01-83 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:21:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailwasher-b.lanl.gov (mailwasher.lanl.gov [192.65.95.54]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 34B8763AA3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:21:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailrelay3.lanl.gov (mailrelay3.lanl.gov [128.165.4.104]) by mailwasher-b.lanl.gov (8.12.11/8.12.11/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id i9QGLelM005549 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:21:40 -0600 Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (ccs-mail.lanl.gov [128.165.4.126]) by mailrelay3.lanl.gov (8.12.11/8.12.11/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id i9QGLTaN015984 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:21:30 -0600 Received: from linux.site (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.10/8.12.10/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id i9QGLTXT011431 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:21:29 -0600 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:21:29 -0600 (MDT) From: "Ronald G. Minnich" X-X-Sender: rminnich@linux.site To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] IBM T42 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.6.0.99824 X-PMX-Version: 4.6.0.99824 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, Tiit Lankots wrote: > I mean, do you just keep your laptop running all the time or do you > force a snapshot at a convenient point. Forcing a snapshot is an > explicit action of backing up and can as well be performed on an > external venti? I'm too simple right now for that :-) I have a venti and fossil. snaptimes are something like 15 and 1440 or some such. So I have a perpetual history of all my files on my laptop. HEAVENLY. ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Oct 27 02:29:46 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Oct 27 02:29:46 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 10F6917BE0 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:28:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CFDFA5F53 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:28:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11107-01-12 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:28:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 53AC6639AD for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:28:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so199416wri for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:28:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TkTmcX4vke9beFK0lDr58AThZq4KgKWHctI0ndRLG8MiRUoi3Z9PT+yDhlBfsrwO7qBfUH6p8pM8z/Vw5dBVh1pW/y3eeTOMsN0hblIIRuAbrPKF43ztHQdMWDm5Fay36vTX8P49fUgvqOARcDQyGND5YXTMr1iwCo199sLxHsI= Received: by 10.38.150.32 with SMTP id x32mr582191rnd; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:28:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.70.51 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:28:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <88a477560410261028752fb43f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:28:13 +0200 From: Matthias Teege To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] install new 9load X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Teege , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Moin, because of my 9load problem I've done a replica/pull from the current iso. The I try cd /usr/src/boot/pc; mk 9fat: cp 9load /n/9fat/9LOAD The reboot didn't work. It hangs after PBS... How do I setup the new 9LOAD? Matthias From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Oct 27 02:33:02 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Oct 27 02:33:02 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5E951B8E6 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:33:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 52BADB8DD for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:32:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11597-01-6 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:32:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.aprote.ee (ns.aprote.ee [80.235.78.106]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A8B23B8A8 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:32:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: Message by Barricade ns.aprote.ee with ESMTP id i9QHWGq5016816 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:32:16 +0300 Received: from tiitl.aprote.com ([192.168.1.68]) by black.aprote.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:32:22 +0300 To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] IBM T42 References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:32:21 +0300 From: "Tiit Lankots" Organization: Aprote Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera M2/7.54 (Win32, build 3865) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2004 17:32:22.0819 (UTC) FILETIME=[C082CF30:01C4BB81] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I have a venti and fossil. snaptimes are something like 15 and 1440 or > some such. My question was, how do you ensure that at archival time the laptop is running? I'm talking about the automatic snap -a. And, how to start venti before fossil on boot? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Oct 27 02:38:24 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Oct 27 02:38:24 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9349417BB6 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:38:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6E5E4B910 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:37:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11597-01-31 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:37:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.vitanuova.com (unknown [213.146.155.10]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B085AB908 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:37:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] IBM T42 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:43:44 0000 From: rog@vitanuova.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > My question was, how do you ensure that at archival time the laptop > is running? I'm talking about the automatic snap -a. it does it when you next switch it on. yes, you might miss a date or two, but then again, nothing happened on the missing dates anyway. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Oct 27 03:02:03 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Oct 27 03:02:03 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D6AC5C6787 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:01:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3929F318C4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:00:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 17782-01-64 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:00:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com (brmea-mail-3.Sun.COM [192.18.98.34]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 003A1318E2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:00:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sfbaymail2sca.sfbay.sun.com ([129.145.155.42]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i9QI0Sui009455 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:00:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from submarine.sfbay.sun.com (submarine.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.78.138]) by sfbaymail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10/ENSMAIL, v2.2) with ESMTP id i9QI0ScA029750 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rs76089@localhost) by submarine.sfbay.sun.com (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id i9QI0Ra03359 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:00:27 -0700 From: Roman Shaposhnick To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] TV/FM tuner Message-ID: <20041026180027.GH29431@submarine> References: <20041026071512.GA658@submarine> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 04:24:34PM +0900, Kenji Okamoto wrote: > > What exactly did you do to get a picture and sound ? An exact sequence > > of commands/steps will be appreciated. > > 1) make change to /sys/src/9/pc/devtv.c for Fusion 878A. > 2) make small change to /sys/src/cmd/tv/tv.c for Fusion 878A. I don't see this program in the latest bits from http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/plan9dist/ Where did you get it from ? Thanks, Roman. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Oct 27 03:03:20 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Oct 27 03:03:20 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8A8E73193B for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:02:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 41664271 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:01:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 17782-01-66 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:01:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tnetsmtp2.mail.isp (smtp.telefonica.net [213.4.129.135]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9184D454 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:01:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 80-26-72-139.uc.nombres.ttd.es ([80.26.72.139]) by tnetsmtp2.mail.isp (terra.es) with ESMTP id I67E2S00.HCE for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:01:40 +0200 Received: from alcortes by 80-26-72-139.uc.nombres.ttd.es with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CMVdT-000899-00 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:01:31 +0200 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:01:31 +0200 From: Alberto Cortes To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] install new 9load Message-ID: <20041026180131.GA31256@shire> References: <88a477560410261028752fb43f@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <88a477560410261028752fb43f@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.18 i686 X-Editor: GNU Emacs 21.2.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alberto Cortes , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:28:13 +0000, Matthias Teege wrote: > cd /usr/src/boot/pc; mk > 9fat: > cp 9load /n/9fat/9LOAD > > The reboot didn't work. It hangs after PBS... > > How do I setup the new 9LOAD? PBS search for 9LOAD in a fixed position, you can not put it anywhere on the disk (i.e. you can not cp it to /n/9fat/). Go for "disk/format" 9load(8) prep(8) <- quick answer -- http://montoya.aig.uc3m.es/~acortes/index.html From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Oct 27 03:10:15 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Oct 27 03:10:15 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EC45A6394 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:10:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 48A3C6125 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:09:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 27791-01-45 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:09:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from telesmtp3.mail.isp (pop3.telefonica.net [213.4.129.150]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 235F16122 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:09:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 80-26-72-139.uc.nombres.ttd.es ([80.26.72.139]) by telesmtp3.mail.isp (terra.es) with ESMTP id I67EFO01.NA1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:09:24 +0200 Received: from alcortes by 80-26-72-139.uc.nombres.ttd.es with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CMVkv-0008A1-00 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:09:13 +0200 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:09:13 +0200 From: Alberto Cortes To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] install new 9load Message-ID: <20041026180913.GB31256@shire> References: <88a477560410261028752fb43f@mail.gmail.com> <20041026180131.GA31256@shire> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041026180131.GA31256@shire> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.18 i686 X-Editor: GNU Emacs 21.2.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alberto Cortes , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:01:31 +0000, Alberto Cortes wrote: > you can not put it anywhere on the disk I mean you have to store it in a fixed position not wherever the DOS filesystem wants to. sorry for my english :) -- http://montoya.aig.uc3m.es/~acortes/index.html From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Oct 27 04:01:13 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Oct 27 04:01:13 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5E73931EA4 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:01:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7450E318E9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:59:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 18461-01-63 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:59:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9AC1131754 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:59:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 65so241661wri for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:59:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=iFqA9OY3ehhpBtONBsO6V6CsvW0naZ+L6ayLppH1ANHxcP4lJB0hBgUijLT+w4/XXhVGclabEstWxz9yjgmt8JdBhTrGpUMZUlwKKAUOYBWLT0phHNrJTMmC8VZMRsxdwNF/3v6Ji1BKjr2bhrZGXALO1arWexFbkePqFxUlhq0= Received: by 10.38.152.73 with SMTP id z73mr448079rnd; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.181.5 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7467f18b04102611593aaf2b5e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:59:46 -0400 From: Chad Gross To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] DST? In-Reply-To: <0b21283894acd9391cf9604ce58b401a@tombob.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <0b21283894acd9391cf9604ce58b401a@tombob.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chad Gross , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:02:12 0000, Robert Raschke wrote: > Steve wrote: > > Anyone else in the UK noticed their clocks seem to be wrong? > > Both home and work plan9 are an hour slow and their clocks are > > locked to two different ntp servers; I am wondering if > > /adm/timezone/GB-EIRE is wrong. > > Yup, wrong for me too. Does anyone know where to pick up the correct > up-to-date versions of timezone files? I vaguely remember there being > a central repository (i.e., non Plan 9 specific) which stores them for > download. I definitely used them once for setting up my SGI. Are you looking for for the latest tz database? ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/ -- Chad Gross cmgross@gmail.com From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Oct 27 04:14:46 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Oct 27 04:14:46 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 78F9D3161F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:14:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3E30218FB1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:14:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 23159-01-21 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:14:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.cegetel.net (mf00.sitadelle.com [212.94.174.77]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A04175ED6 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:14:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SOMA (unknown [80.125.251.14]) by smtp.cegetel.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8DD5067308; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:14:02 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <001901c4bb8f$6cac5fd0$0efb7d50@SOMA> From: "boyd, rounin" To: "Chad Gross" , "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <0b21283894acd9391cf9604ce58b401a@tombob.com> <7467f18b04102611593aaf2b5e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] DST? Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:10:12 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu not la DST? http://www.interieur.gouv.fr/rubriques/c/c3_police_nationale/c335_dst/index_html From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Oct 27 04:18:07 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Oct 27 04:18:07 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D2EA83171C for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:18:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C446231622 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:17:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 23159-01-25 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:17:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.cegetel.net (mf00.sitadelle.com [212.94.174.77]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 20D4D31621 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:17:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SOMA (unknown [80.125.251.14]) by smtp.cegetel.net (Postfix) with SMTP id AA288671A5; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:17:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <001f01c4bb8f$e4b60cb0$0efb7d50@SOMA> From: "boyd, rounin" To: "Alberto Cortes" , "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <88a477560410261028752fb43f@mail.gmail.com><20041026180131.GA31256@shire> <20041026180913.GB31256@shire> Subject: Re: [9fans] install new 9load Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:13:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > I mean you have to store it in a fixed position not wherever the DOS > filesystem wants to. yes, russ posted on this. these old clues might help: http://www.insultant.net/repo/plan9/usbflop.html From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Oct 27 05:12:09 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Oct 27 05:12:09 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9F0DA63E5D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:12:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0C97B63DDB for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:11:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 13913-01-43 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:11:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8DE8A63E53 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:11:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so221815wri for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:11:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=md9dCjkOz9hW4x/fMs/Cc1nBID6KptocLhyUg1S2huzeXpjiZTcenKNCzRKqYJH12j7aY5tMyh1ErwTVqkefE1LjvIhY9STMw3gfTHiw25EtZFUXDYPV6FhvC88Bax6dB2Osh1LZjvRaqj7+nSTidloLgNiopZwV80pRMJCoxVQ= Received: by 10.38.150.32 with SMTP id x32mr667876rnd; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.70.51 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <88a4775604102612444fe79d06@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:44:42 +0200 From: Matthias Teege To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] server power off X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Teege , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu My dual server arrives last week and I play now with Plan9 on it. It looks really good. I can see both processors and the network cards work to. I don't have the time to setup it now but I made a quick setup and drawterm to the box. It works but after some minutes the server goes down. It simply power off. My first idea was ACPI or some power saving so I disable all this features on the board. It didn't help. Maybe the power supply is weak. Is there something in plan9 that power off my server? Is there a "crashlog" or something? Matthias From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Oct 27 06:42:51 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Oct 27 06:42:51 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7E34A63FBD for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:42:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 12EB263DEF for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:42:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22444-01-38 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:42:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailwasher-b.lanl.gov (mailwasher.lanl.gov [192.65.95.54]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7BEB963DEC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:42:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailrelay2.lanl.gov (mailrelay2.lanl.gov [128.165.4.103]) by mailwasher-b.lanl.gov (8.12.11/8.12.11/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id i9QLgKNR005923 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:42:20 -0600 Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (ccs-mail.lanl.gov [128.165.4.126]) by mailrelay2.lanl.gov (8.12.11/8.12.11/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id i9QLg9Tg022614; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:42:09 -0600 Received: from linux.site (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.10/8.12.10/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id i9QLg9XT028321; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:42:09 -0600 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:42:09 -0600 (MDT) From: "Ronald G. Minnich" X-X-Sender: rminnich@linux.site To: Matthias Teege , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] server power off In-Reply-To: <88a4775604102612444fe79d06@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <88a4775604102612444fe79d06@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.6.0.99824 X-PMX-Version: 4.6.0.99824 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu make sure there is not a dead fan. We had a power supply with a broken 'auto cooling' setting and it got too hot to touch, so we set it to 'fan lo' setting and that fixed it. So check for fans not starting that should start. A CPU with a bad fan will do what you are seeing. ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Oct 27 06:51:04 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Oct 27 06:51:04 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2AFEE63F96 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:51:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7D61263F9B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:50:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 06383-01-11 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:50:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1C10063F96 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:50:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so234135wri for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:50:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=V2N4HAoH0bNtsCHLkgPkslGOsFo8KuMyWTIG/qgmNqinapxgXbKKWWY3IXTRy9E9kKzEWCzQVkF9CViAW/m46bLoijr+JDL7htIESHf3yxq6JvzzQ7eocdQ+amGTf8CIt5m/a3saAXd4EbYET8IMEJ2jUa1OsKasPk+n+rt17t4= Received: by 10.38.96.46 with SMTP id t46mr753220rnb; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:50:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.65.22 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:50:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:50:24 -0400 From: Russ Cox To: Matthias Teege , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] install new 9load In-Reply-To: <88a477560410261028752fb43f@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <88a477560410261028752fb43f@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Russ Cox , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > cd /usr/src/boot/pc; mk > 9fat: > cp 9load /n/9fat/9LOAD so far so good, but call it 9load not 9LOAD. then chmod +a /n/9fat/9load (it's magic). From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Oct 27 08:19:44 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Oct 27 08:19:44 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CF596C2A6 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:19:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 71FF1BF47 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:18:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 28350-01-63 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:18:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (ol.freeshell.org [192.94.73.20]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A775DBEF8 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:18:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:dudzus@otaku.freeshell.org [192.94.73.2]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9QNIgTY007722 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:18:42 GMT Received: (from dudzus@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.12.10/8.12.8/Submit) id i9QNIg6D021516 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:18:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:18:42 +0200 From: Heiko Dudzus To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] IBM T42 Message-ID: <20041026231842.GA11431@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Tiit Lankots wrote: > Forcing a snapshot is an explicit action of backing up and can as > well be performed on an external venti? A fossil that made an archival snapshot to a venti depends on that venti. Consider the venti as the main storage for the fossil, not just as backup. (At least thats my experience with venti & fossil; and what the venti paper says. Correct me if I'm wrong) So, for archival snapshots, the venti should reside on the laptop. (but it may be copied to an external venti now and then, of course) From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Oct 27 08:21:07 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Oct 27 08:21:07 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B74B5C760 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:21:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E11AAC52D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:20:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 28350-01-65 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:20:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 452A6C74E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:20:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so242623wri for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:20:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nAhwKens0ecF79DmjZkEQp1v7/rQ8tvh1gZznTItEeicpsxyLitsqTT5hvIvgQK+ehj9ZDuyo36dtvdC+z3rqPlU72VHQpWEJjPc/FKCd5FMKpoqJVRkwF9WbkPcEMGlnivulJ9fV03rIGwB+N9cW6ToeDxqlMkKmQ2GY3m8wkw= Received: by 10.38.79.68 with SMTP id c68mr797525rnb; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:20:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.75.16 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:20:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:20:35 -0400 From: jm3 / john manoogian III To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] mountfs errors on install from bootable ISO cd X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jm3 / john manoogian III , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu i partitioned my disk sucessfully, but then i get this error: The following partitions named fossil* were found. Please choose one to use as the installation file system for your Plan 9 installation. --rw-r----- S 0 glenda glenda 9401337856 Aug 9 15:51 /dev/sdD1/fossil Fossil partition (/dev/sdD1/fossil)[/dev/sdD1/fossil]: Preparing menu.... /env/fossilconf: errors in . '/env/fossilconf' mount: mount /n/fossil: fsys: 'main' not open mount: could not create /adm/users and i'm unable to get past the mountfs step. i'm in the rio version of the installer, ISO downloaded from http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9dist/download.html the console log on the bottom right of the screen says: prompt: fsys main create /active/adm/users adm sys 664 fsys: 'main' not open prompt: uname upas :upas fsys: 'main' not open prompt: users -w nuser 6 len 90 fsys: 'main' not open prompt: -- jm3 > http://feedmelinks.com john manoogian III < www.jm3.net A: No. Q: Should I include the quoted email AFTER my reply? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Oct 27 08:44:11 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Oct 27 08:44:11 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8A75963C5E for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:44:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BDE6A63BD6 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:43:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 29263-01-18 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:43:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (ol.freeshell.org [192.94.73.20]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7E0FB63B3A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:43:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:dudzus@otaku.freeshell.org [192.94.73.2]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9QNhQTY028746 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:43:26 GMT Received: (from dudzus@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.12.10/8.12.8/Submit) id i9QNhQvQ003116 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:43:26 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:43:26 +0200 From: Heiko Dudzus To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] IBM T42 Message-ID: <20041026234325.GB11431@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Tiit Lankots wrote: > And, how to start venti before fossil on boot? That question was twisting my mind, too, when I set it up. ;-) plan9.ini(8) and boot(8) answer the question. If the venti environment/plan9.ini variable is set to a local venti device venti gets started previously to fossil. (Therefore, its configuration must be written to the device with venti/conf) From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Oct 27 09:59:23 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Oct 27 09:59:23 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 52BCC31E5D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:58:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8757463FBB for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:58:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11289-01-95 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:58:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4E08463FB5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:58:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2365ff5f4af97f57ceb7af0d58fae075@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] TV/FM tuner From: Kenji Okamoto Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:59:55 +0900 In-Reply-To: <20041026180027.GH29431@submarine> MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > I don't see this program in the latest bits from > http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/plan9dist/ > > Where did you get it from ? Go personal to Peter Bosch at Lucent. You can find his mail address from the archives of this list. Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Oct 27 20:16:42 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Oct 27 20:16:42 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CFCD263D51 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:16:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id ED43331739 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:16:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 07318-01-53 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:16:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sargazos.escet.urjc.es (sargazos.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.206]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DD09031692 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:16:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5b020b8175c46f4e109c845b719b17d3@plan9.escet.urjc.es> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: "Fco. J. Ballesteros" Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:16:00 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] rio snarf X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Any reason why it updates on close rather than truncating on open(OTRUNC)? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Oct 28 02:11:44 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Oct 28 02:11:44 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5BB23C67D9 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:11:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5157D31EA4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:10:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03644-02-39 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:10:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AAED631E9B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:10:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so339703wri for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:10:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Wk0d5fqeIwM1u4jvryqInpTFXX4xSfgp1snResAdKMZIBdCr7zGp41B07qrt5tE9qbeUvQcbAwcxvjzxApj0kO3zarnYH7kPA1cBXb7pYaPDPatXsML/2aKbaGuYb5gIAfoMT1q59S0AkKztS/bLgUfKUTNGqGDnZH+g6r3wkDo= Received: by 10.38.96.46 with SMTP id t46mr1294121rnb; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:10:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.65.22 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:10:45 -0400 From: Russ Cox To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] rio snarf In-Reply-To: <5b020b8175c46f4e109c845b719b17d3@plan9.escet.urjc.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <5b020b8175c46f4e109c845b719b17d3@plan9.escet.urjc.es> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Russ Cox , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > Any reason why it updates on close rather than truncating on open(OTRUNC)? Surely you have a different question. Russ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Oct 28 02:32:01 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Oct 28 02:32:01 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A132C63FB5 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:32:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6E73D31E6E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:31:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 14132-01-77 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:31:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sargazos.escet.urjc.es (sargazos.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.206]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AD68B31A27 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:31:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <75959811c030beb33eb82d0460fcd6ca@plan9.escet.urjc.es> To: russcox@gmail.com, 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] rio snarf From: "Fco. J. Ballesteros" Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:31:01 +0200 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-twvfuwqpkvugqgogeufrpaqxgz" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-twvfuwqpkvugqgogeufrpaqxgz Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well. We just found that removing snarf from rio fsys makes things work great wrt sharing the snarf buffer across machines. At first, we thought that if was enough to call open(OTRUNC) while copying to the snarf buffer, then we noticed the deadlock with the open("/dev/snarf") in rio, then we tried removing snarf from rio, and, voila. Either I'm crazy because of the lots of coffee I have been drinking, or there is something I'm missing regarding why rio has snarf builtin instead of using a regular file for that. Hope my question was more clear now. cheers --upas-twvfuwqpkvugqgogeufrpaqxgz Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by aquamar; Wed Oct 27 19:11:05 MDT 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id ECD1D63FE8 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:10:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5157D31EA4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:10:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03644-02-39 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:10:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AAED631E9B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:10:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so339703wri for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:10:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Wk0d5fqeIwM1u4jvryqInpTFXX4xSfgp1snResAdKMZIBdCr7zGp41B07qrt5tE9qbeUvQcbAwcxvjzxApj0kO3zarnYH7kPA1cBXb7pYaPDPatXsML/2aKbaGuYb5gIAfoMT1q59S0AkKztS/bLgUfKUTNGqGDnZH+g6r3wkDo= Received: by 10.38.96.46 with SMTP id t46mr1294121rnb; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:10:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.65.22 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:10:45 -0400 From: Russ Cox To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] rio snarf In-Reply-To: <5b020b8175c46f4e109c845b719b17d3@plan9.escet.urjc.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <5b020b8175c46f4e109c845b719b17d3@plan9.escet.urjc.es> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Russ Cox , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+nemo=lsub.org@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+nemo=lsub.org@cse.psu.edu > Any reason why it updates on close rather than truncating on open(OTRUNC)? Surely you have a different question. Russ --upas-twvfuwqpkvugqgogeufrpaqxgz-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Oct 28 02:51:59 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Oct 28 02:51:59 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 22585C6738 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:51:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F3E7963E41 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:51:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22046-01-40 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 87AD831E9B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so345653wri for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:51:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=nuoqaJhK9AzEBU5+xT5k3U9ECnMZ5sOzVpa4LO7L2SmLk1RSJGpGBPaTmhd6ZjZLVdWdCuI0AymxzBIJ+dJuZO2OSQ3l7+aT4ZfiB5ul3J5KkP2THdrS3b42B/dOdJ2e8RZ5T3YwN7SXyw+gMF/fFp3k8IXArnhcuVFIbCfpamg= Received: by 10.38.15.14 with SMTP id 14mr1309816rno; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.65.22 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:51:10 -0400 From: Russ Cox To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] rio snarf In-Reply-To: <75959811c030beb33eb82d0460fcd6ca@plan9.escet.urjc.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <75959811c030beb33eb82d0460fcd6ca@plan9.escet.urjc.es> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Russ Cox , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > Well. We just found that removing snarf from rio fsys makes things > work great wrt sharing the snarf buffer across machines. If that's all you want to do, just create a /dev/snarf before rio runs -- if it sees one already there, it won't provide one. > At first, we thought that if was enough to call open(OTRUNC) while > copying to the snarf buffer, then we noticed the deadlock with the > open("/dev/snarf") in rio, then we tried removing snarf from rio, and, > voila. This I still don't fully understand. The reason the snarf buffer doesn't change until close is probably lost to history, but one nice effect is that updating the snarf buffer is atomic -- you'll never see a partially written one. > Either I'm crazy because of the lots of coffee I have been drinking, or > there is something I'm missing regarding why rio has snarf builtin instead > of using a regular file for that. Rio used to provide a separate snarf buffer for each instance of rio. It's only recently that there has been this push toward having one snarf buffer for the whole system. Russ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Oct 28 02:58:56 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Oct 28 02:58:56 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C82B731810 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:58:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 60FD231810 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:58:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25946-01-58 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:58:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nautilus.escet.urjc.es (nautilus.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.207]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1F536C761 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:58:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <065a179f8cfb563bc08c13be9dfc5359@plan9.escet.urjc.es> From: "Fco. J. Ballesteros" Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:57:38 +0200 To: russcox@gmail.com, 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] rio snarf In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-fcwnkjpsguuzyzcesbtfnxpeno" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-fcwnkjpsguuzyzcesbtfnxpeno Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, having a /dev/snarf created by, say, binding /tmp/blah to /dev/snarf does not seem to work, because rio ends up leaving the biggest thing that was in there (because it does not truncate the file). I think it assumes that the behaviour of /dev/snarf is that of rio's, and not that of a regular file. Regarding the question, I think you answered it. I understand it provides a snarf if you have different per-rio snarf files. thanks --upas-fcwnkjpsguuzyzcesbtfnxpeno Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by aquamar; Wed Oct 27 19:51:31 MDT 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D117063FDB for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:51:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F3E7963E41 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:51:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22046-01-40 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 87AD831E9B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so345653wri for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:51:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=nuoqaJhK9AzEBU5+xT5k3U9ECnMZ5sOzVpa4LO7L2SmLk1RSJGpGBPaTmhd6ZjZLVdWdCuI0AymxzBIJ+dJuZO2OSQ3l7+aT4ZfiB5ul3J5KkP2THdrS3b42B/dOdJ2e8RZ5T3YwN7SXyw+gMF/fFp3k8IXArnhcuVFIbCfpamg= Received: by 10.38.15.14 with SMTP id 14mr1309816rno; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.65.22 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:51:10 -0400 From: Russ Cox To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] rio snarf In-Reply-To: <75959811c030beb33eb82d0460fcd6ca@plan9.escet.urjc.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <75959811c030beb33eb82d0460fcd6ca@plan9.escet.urjc.es> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Russ Cox , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+nemo=lsub.org@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+nemo=lsub.org@cse.psu.edu > Well. We just found that removing snarf from rio fsys makes things > work great wrt sharing the snarf buffer across machines. If that's all you want to do, just create a /dev/snarf before rio runs -- if it sees one already there, it won't provide one. > At first, we thought that if was enough to call open(OTRUNC) while > copying to the snarf buffer, then we noticed the deadlock with the > open("/dev/snarf") in rio, then we tried removing snarf from rio, and, > voila. This I still don't fully understand. The reason the snarf buffer doesn't change until close is probably lost to history, but one nice effect is that updating the snarf buffer is atomic -- you'll never see a partially written one. > Either I'm crazy because of the lots of coffee I have been drinking, or > there is something I'm missing regarding why rio has snarf builtin instead > of using a regular file for that. Rio used to provide a separate snarf buffer for each instance of rio. It's only recently that there has been this push toward having one snarf buffer for the whole system. Russ --upas-fcwnkjpsguuzyzcesbtfnxpeno-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Oct 28 07:44:07 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Oct 28 07:44:07 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4B141C67C9 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:43:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9B89E318FD for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:43:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19785-01-62 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:43:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ensa.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (ensa.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.2.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D2EC9318F8 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:43:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imgw1.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (imgw1 [136.159.5.9]) by ensa.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9RMcevl027064 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:38:40 -0600 Received: from fbsd (fbsd [136.159.7.68]) by imgw1.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9RMcTQU020007 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:38:30 -0600 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:38:23 -0600 (MDT) From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] [offtopic] Long-lost final Ed Wood film found X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu "Considered the worst filmmaker of all time, Ed Wood won a cult following after his death and now fans can see his long-lost last film "Necromania," a work some say shows he was so bad that he was brilliant." http://reuters.com/printerFriendlyPopup.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6630653 now if we only had a new Plan 9 application we could name it thusly :) From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Oct 28 09:04:42 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Oct 28 09:04:42 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E25B7C6737 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:04:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D217531E8A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:04:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24662-03-46 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:04:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denhaag.ewi.utwente.nl (denhaag.ewi.utwente.nl [130.89.10.11]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8500631E81 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:04:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zeus.cs.utwente.nl (zeus.ewi.utwente.nl [130.89.10.12]) by denhaag.ewi.utwente.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9S044Oq021165 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 02:04:04 +0200 (MEST) Received: from zamenhof.cs.utwente.nl (zamenhof.ewi.utwente.nl [130.89.13.77]) by zeus.cs.utwente.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9S043n9008128 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 02:04:03 +0200 (MEST) Received: from localhost (belinfan@localhost) by zamenhof.cs.utwente.nl (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.10.2) with SMTP id i9S043d21906 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 02:04:03 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200410280004.i9S043d21906@zamenhof.cs.utwente.nl> X-Authentication-Warning: zamenhof.cs.utwente.nl: belinfan@localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Axel Belinfante X-Organisation: University of Twente, Department of Computer Science, Formal Methods and Tools Group, PO Box 217, NL-7500 AE Enschede, The Netherlands X-Phone: +31 53 4893774 X-Telefax: +31 53 4893247 X-Face: 3YGZY^_!}k]>-k'9$LK?8GXbi?vs=2v*ut, /8z, z!(QNBk_>~:~"MJ_%i`sLLqGN, DGbkT@ N\jhX/jNLTz2hO_R"*RF(%bRvk+M, iU7SvVJtC*\B6Ud<7~`MGMp7rCI6LVp=%k=HE?-UCV?[p\$R? mI\n2/!#3/wZZsa[m7d;PKWiuH6'~ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 02:04:03 +0200 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.44 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] twente9con shortly before christmas? X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Since I could not make it to the london 9con I have been thinking: why not try to not let a 9con come to me? (under the untested working assumption that at our university, located between Hengelo and Enschede in the Netherlands, it should be possible to find a room to meet, ideally one with a beamer. the campus-wide wireless lan is a bonus) This leads to a question: when? A natural answer came up by the fact that at the end of this year the number of 9fans in twente will temporarily be increased by 50% (to the amazing number of 3 :-) So, essentially I'm sending this email to see if people would be interested, and what their time constraints are to see if it makes sense to really start organizing. Given our time constraints, the 9con should be somewhere in the period from say friday 17 till wed. 22 dec., which would give us the weekend of 18-19 december, or maybe somewhere between christmas and new year's eve. I guess it should/could be 1 or 2 days (but: no program yet). If people would like the idea of having a 9con here, but prefer a completely different time: let me know. w.r.t. possible costs I have no idea yet, nor about the possible impact of organizing on non-working days when (by default at least, maybe access can be arranged anyway) many (not all!) buildings are closed (and heatings turned low) - that would simply be things to find out. So, if those who are (potentially) interested could let me know (private mail) their constraints, ideas, etc. I can see whether (and what) we can arrange.... Axel. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Oct 28 09:33:10 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Oct 28 09:33:10 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B4162C6734 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:32:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AD02463F20 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:32:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03684-02-37 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:32:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 31E1B63EA7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:32:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 65so442154wri for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:32:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Zudub1k7kCQUoXZrHjY2z+XOHLnGWyBfaSq0KZhT38cADSkrz0seOMH6h/vLihj545/IffE+91QSuGKjifPwnA+rFjc9HQnJdapMerJOXBxoaM3bl2EPLaSZDBRjj16y71wCIJG7gj4zHR7yhkIMD9AS7koU/XIxo/5Zwt+Sp8Y= Received: by 10.38.102.69 with SMTP id z69mr1083801rnb; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:32:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.181.73 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:32:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7871fcf5041027173239e4d44e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:32:16 -0400 From: Joel Salomon To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] [offtopic] Long-lost final Ed Wood film found In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joel Salomon , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > long-lost last film "Necromania," a work > now if we only had a new Plan 9 application we could name it thusly :) >=20 A snappier name for fossil, perhaps? =E2=98=BA --Joel From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Oct 28 11:11:53 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Oct 28 11:11:53 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 34B92C6744 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:11:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 87CE663EA1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:11:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09642-01-15 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:10:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (mproxy.gmail.com [216.239.56.251]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 85FED63E5E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:10:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id u52so139759cwc for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:10:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=V4ZocHUTajLMIexokEEUqTdHaq5ixVqnN3waQqtrEzvofO/D+y31yp/fsTa+gYQBuxyjMPCab1VMEukz1kS51auJLQjV06NCzLgE8b4lNx7iCgLG9LroNhGI34wg+zTOPrX2o57+v1nFGluWYXMfNko5K5u619CLlb8fFAJMRgI= Received: by 10.11.117.42 with SMTP id p42mr553632cwc; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.11.119.4 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3634b0c204102719105c57a773@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 07:40:58 +0530 From: Rajendran A To: Russ Cox , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] install new 9load In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <88a477560410261028752fb43f@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Rajendran A , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu I am trying to install Plan 9 for the first time on my PC. I downloaded the boot disk image and created a boot disk. While trying to boot the system using it, I get the following message: PBS... Plan 9 from Bell Labs ELCR: 0E28 apm ax=f000 cx=f000 dx=fdf9 di=0 ebx=7e8c esi=f03e4 and then the system hangs. I then downloaded the cd iso image and created a bootable CD. While trying to boot from the CD, I get the same message and the system hangs. Any idea what is going wrong? Thanks, Raj. On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:50:24 -0400, Russ Cox wrote: > > cd /usr/src/boot/pc; mk > > 9fat: > > cp 9load /n/9fat/9LOAD > > so far so good, but call it 9load > not 9LOAD. then chmod +a /n/9fat/9load > (it's magic). > From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Oct 28 12:06:30 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Oct 28 12:06:30 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6B8A563FBD for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:05:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A1F27288 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:05:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 21130-01-57 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:05:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plan9.ucalgary.ca (unknown [136.159.220.110]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EA0F332E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:04:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: rappavu@gmail.com, 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] install new 9load Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:04:58 -0600 From: andrey mirtchovski In-Reply-To: <3634b0c204102719105c57a773@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > I am trying to install Plan 9 for the first time on my PC. I > downloaded the boot disk image and created a boot disk. While trying > to boot the system using it, I get the following message: > > PBS... Plan 9 from Bell Labs > ELCR: 0E28 > apm ax=f000 cx=f000 dx=fdf9 di=0 ebx=7e8c esi=f03e4 > > and then the system hangs. I then downloaded the cd iso image and > created a bootable CD. While trying to boot from the CD, I get the > same message and the system hangs. > > Any idea what is going wrong? > > Thanks, > Raj. > is your hard drive on the same IDE cable as the cdrom? From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Oct 28 12:32:45 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Oct 28 12:32:45 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1C26CC4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:32:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E8378C28D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:32:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08288-02-2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:31:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 63667C279 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:31:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so406119wri for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:31:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=oa2gDfwCL/q7cN3i0+guivSOtMBglU8ASoUsDnFLDnuzztj+GBIfEMm6akcK7aQPC+vRSzsW7MwnOt3RRYpEiQCtX2tqygpgHJ5WFanln/ZhO33H3YDyDdl4y/J2RgRaYxA26pwUx42sLPS3i51S2au4QB6bAstweWAkzOBuMww= Received: by 10.38.15.14 with SMTP id 14mr1590059rno; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.79.9 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <32a656c2041027203078b35de4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 04:30:46 +0100 From: Vester Thacker To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] install new 9load In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <3634b0c204102719105c57a773@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Vester Thacker , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:04:58 -0600, andrey mirtchovski wrote: > > is your hard drive on the same IDE cable as the cdrom? Also, replace the cable to determine if it is faulty. Other ideas, review your BIOS settings and IRQ settings. Ensure that you are not sharing IRQs between devices. If you aren't using a device, disable it in BIOS. See if this helps, if not I have more suggestions. -vester From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Oct 28 14:29:33 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Oct 28 14:29:33 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8EFCE63E4B for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 01:29:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5AE5063CEE for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 01:28:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 20473-02-56 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 01:28:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C6C9463B17 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 01:28:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so414662wri for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:28:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=OMH52S/S7Md3h2+enPCf8BiV7By6dMBrlTGA/CWHnktl2e6AiRQLChBKU42jsYrcZVibdUTfvDSHd+LsWmssQcxCmJ5LuxRGCLAH10tD2igX626nZspuNLB4knno+A2mChvbri5LHsnTTe/vVZNTyVS3jwQ4IrRPfHXUsOep5S8= Received: by 10.38.79.68 with SMTP id c68mr1661107rnb; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:28:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.70.51 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:28:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <88a4775604102722283f1e9e02@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 07:28:42 +0200 From: Matthias Teege To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] twente9con shortly before christmas? In-Reply-To: <200410280004.i9S043d21906@zamenhof.cs.utwente.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200410280004.i9S043d21906@zamenhof.cs.utwente.nl> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Teege , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 02:04:03 +0200, Axel Belinfante wrote: > Since I could not make it to the london 9con I have been > thinking: why not try to not let a 9con come to me? > (under the untested working assumption that at our university, > located between Hengelo and Enschede in the Netherlands, > it should be possible to find a room to meet, ideally one > with a beamer. the campus-wide wireless lan is a bonus) cool Idea I'm interested in a 9con. As I noted before, there is the Chaos Communication Congress in Berlin from 27th to 29th December (http://www.ccc.de/congress/2004/index.en.html). The CfP is over but they are interested in developer conferences (http://21c3.ccc.de/weblog/2004/10/04/developer-conferences-at-21c3/) to. Maybe 9con come to me. ;-) But Twente is OK to. Matthias From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Oct 28 22:04:39 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Oct 28 22:04:39 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7570B63C02 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:04:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8006F63BE2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:03:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 16608-02-37 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:03:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 13D1F63B91 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:03:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 65so503164wri for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 06:03:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=nX6lKGtK1nmbuNmtCWhcR6hwCleQflV3YfL86WVQjEieVbft/Fyx0WuyHAAaPaIv1z7yvAf3oOiJbTUmW0f8jQD1u9oEo4V2NBymfOtqPlDaueD6WNfAn/Zw2JMcXDnoEhxBGw+pzVtkf6gfw3IF2YZ61litieRWz+O1h5pAXZI= Received: by 10.38.152.73 with SMTP id z73mr1340456rnd; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 06:03:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.67.2 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 06:03:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 08:03:52 -0500 From: Eric Van Hensbergen To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] twente9con shortly before christmas? In-Reply-To: <88a4775604102722283f1e9e02@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200410280004.i9S043d21906@zamenhof.cs.utwente.nl> <88a4775604102722283f1e9e02@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eric Van Hensbergen , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 07:28:42 +0200, Matthias Teege Maybe 9con > >9con can come to me. ;-) But Twente is OK to. > I'm going to be attending OSDI this year, and among other things plan to setup a Plan 9 BOF to talk about where things are at, where things are going, and in what new directions do we want to go (wrt Plan 9) - anyone else going to OSDI? -eric From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Oct 28 22:26:19 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Oct 28 22:26:19 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4CFE163D44 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:26:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D499E63B4F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:25:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 16608-02-93 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:25:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2B2B263B25 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:25:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 64so474807wri for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 06:25:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=TtP4xHD01+UWrPhuEas19OEz3fp7E+icAP1TNUwsJnlVxVXu7Ja+VwrRdpztd4JtY6oIzCyv29UmxWBHfuCiZnZNB6GZ7Z1JEX/Z6chKk2obshVKwItqIrdOJS4zemVR4qwvDPlZ1m3Ybpso7NokX1JfH2j6SE9gjCrL9TEPrug= Received: by 10.38.163.52 with SMTP id l52mr1881219rne; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 06:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.65.22 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 06:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:25:23 -0400 From: Russ Cox To: Eric Van Hensbergen , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] twente9con shortly before christmas? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200410280004.i9S043d21906@zamenhof.cs.utwente.nl> <88a4775604102722283f1e9e02@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Russ Cox , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > I'm going to be attending OSDI this year, and among other things plan > to setup a Plan 9 BOF to talk about where things are at, where things > are going, and in what new directions do we want to go (wrt Plan 9) - > anyone else going to OSDI? I'm planning to be there. Russ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Fri Oct 29 01:32:32 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Fri Oct 29 01:32:32 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4E56563DDE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:32:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 19E3731E7F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:31:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22678-01-25 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:31:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (mproxy.gmail.com [216.239.56.244]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 51E4A31E81 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:31:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id u52so10195cwc for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:31:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=goRo4BaMXbRNkqYKKbnkEQX4sjbS6G/F367cUAOHyDivAg4FG5UJJEfPmS4d9eRBg77P6d9WKusioOqk4gAKeMWWI3zRbQfVnoSC1lIop2x7/Z/s/Sebw7NyLjeJnwb7QOzhefztSf/C0khmqp7ZWDNc1XPAqM7ohiTKcu6hJRo= Received: by 10.11.117.42 with SMTP id p42mr721859cwc; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:31:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.11.119.4 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:31:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3634b0c2041028093143caee6a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 22:01:46 +0530 From: Rajendran A To: Vester Thacker Subject: Re: [9fans] install new 9load In-Reply-To: <32a656c2041027203078b35de4@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <3634b0c204102719105c57a773@mail.gmail.com> <32a656c2041027203078b35de4@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Rajendran A , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu No, cdrom and hard disk are on different cables. cdrom is connected to the primary IDE controller and the hard disk is connected to the secondary IDE controller. I have Linux and Windows already installed on my hard disk and are working fine. -Raj. On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 04:30:46 +0100, Vester Thacker wrote: > On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:04:58 -0600, andrey mirtchovski > wrote: > > > > is your hard drive on the same IDE cable as the cdrom? > > Also, replace the cable to determine if it is faulty. Other ideas, > review your BIOS settings and IRQ settings. Ensure that you are not > sharing IRQs between devices. If you aren't using a device, disable it > in BIOS. See if this helps, if not I have more suggestions. > > -vester > From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Fri Oct 29 01:42:48 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Fri Oct 29 01:42:48 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 03B15B8AA for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:41:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 08D1363555 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:41:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11859-01-86 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:41:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from felix.quintile.net (cpc1-sout4-6-0-cust141.sot3.cable.ntl.com [81.96.207.141]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4CEA462F8B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:41:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: "Steve Simon" Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:40:51 +0100 To: rappavu@gmail.com, 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] install new 9load In-Reply-To: <3634b0c2041028093143caee6a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu The Plan9 installation assumes that your disk is the primary master and the cdrom is the CDROM the secondary master. Not doing this will cause hassle later in the install (though it can be done). I reccomend you try swapping them over. I don't understand why this could cause the install to crash so early though, I guess there is another problem also. -Steve From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Fri Oct 29 03:32:00 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Fri Oct 29 03:32:00 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4E46FC67BD for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:31:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CD1F463A16 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:30:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 16414-01-22 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (mproxy.gmail.com [216.239.56.246]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3BCCD63A10 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:30:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id u52so13032cwc for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:30:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=tIQW6+Q2X3PGT/NHYanBZ64gtHu4ntJpZQnzW4RQDOU7QuUiN79W6+Hq1WiF36eNC2VESUs3GJCBu0ziYXELhUru81IkrZKq6qgPfdD8jGHMn+Y79va6E9uvGGq4kg0rVBeY11YnHlRHMgOJujhbIe+PtQZQCMgTbpcrBMBQ0gQ= Received: by 10.11.119.44 with SMTP id r44mr750847cwc; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.11.119.4 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3634b0c2041028113047185f81@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 00:00:44 +0530 From: Rajendran A To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] install new 9load In-Reply-To: <86209de9e9812a23c76766c108e29bfc@quintile.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <3634b0c2041028093143caee6a@mail.gmail.com> <86209de9e9812a23c76766c108e29bfc@quintile.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Rajendran A , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu I tried swapping the cables and made hard disk primary master and the cdrom secondary master. Then booting using Plan 9 CD, gives the message: PBS... Plan 9 from Bell Labs ELCR: 0E28 apm ax=f000 cx=f000 dx=fdf9 di=0 ebx=7e8c esi=f03e4 and attempts to read the floppy drive and hangs with the floppy read light on.. I don't have any disk in the floppy drive. Same thing happens when I try to boot using the floppy disk. -Raj. On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:40:51 +0100, Steve Simon wrote: > The Plan9 installation assumes that your disk is the > primary master and the cdrom is the CDROM the secondary > master. > > Not doing this will cause hassle later in the install > (though it can be done). I reccomend you try swapping > them over. > > I don't understand why this could cause the install to > crash so early though, I guess there is another problem > also. > > -Steve > From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Fri Oct 29 04:34:14 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Fri Oct 29 04:34:14 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8FBD6C6721 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:34:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 99F6463AC9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:33:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03752-01-7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:33:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from babingka.lava.net (babingka.lava.net [64.65.64.26]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 55820639A0 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:33:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from malasada.lava.net (malasada.lava.net [64.65.64.17]) by babingka.lava.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9E3133FE; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:33:16 -1000 (HST) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:33:16 -1000 (HST) From: Tim Newsham To: Joel Salomon , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] [offtopic] Long-lost final Ed Wood film found In-Reply-To: <7871fcf5041027173239e4d44e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <7871fcf5041027173239e4d44e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > > long-lost last film "Necromania," a work > > now if we only had a new Plan 9 application we could name it thusly :) > A snappier name for fossil, perhaps? I don't think I'd feel comfortable trusting my long term bits to a service named "necromania". Now if it was an ephemeral secure store I'd feel much better about it. > --Joel Tim N. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Fri Oct 29 04:36:03 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Fri Oct 29 04:36:03 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0827263DE4 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:36:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9204D63D3B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:35:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 27388-01-46 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:35:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gau.lava.net (gau.lava.net [64.65.64.28]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3ED2C63D24 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:35:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from malasada.lava.net (malasada.lava.net [64.65.64.17]) by gau.lava.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAEFD171B3; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:35:26 -1000 (HST) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:35:26 -1000 (HST) From: Tim Newsham To: Eric Van Hensbergen , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] twente9con shortly before christmas? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <200410280004.i9S043d21906@zamenhof.cs.utwente.nl> <88a4775604102722283f1e9e02@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Thu, 28 Oct 2004, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote: > anyone else going to OSDI? I'll be there. > -eric Tim N. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Fri Oct 29 11:02:02 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Fri Oct 29 11:02:02 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6BBD363E5B for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 22:01:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9828C63B1A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 22:01:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25068-01-12 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 22:01:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ar.aichi-u.ac.jp (ar.aichi-u.ac.jp [202.250.160.40]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DD48363B0E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 22:01:16 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: <20041018131031.78344aa9.martin_ml@parvat.com> References: <20041018102213.2af428c1.martin_ml@parvat.com> <20041018131031.78344aa9.martin_ml@parvat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <6963B76A-294E-11D9-A0F9-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: arisawa@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:01:13 +0900 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] venti i/o error X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Hello, My venti became suddenly weird. term% pwd /usr/arisawa/www term% ls * ls: doc: 'doc' venti i/o error block 3d68720550e91952e7474f4baf4c21eb6070c971 ls: etc: 'etc' venti i/o error block 3d68720550e91952e7474f4baf4c21eb6070c971 term% rm doc etc rm: doc: 'doc' venti i/o error block 3d68720550e91952e7474f4baf4c21eb6070c971 rm: etc: 'etc' venti i/o error block 3d68720550e91952e7474f4baf4c21eb6070c971 term% I can't figure out what caused the trouble. snapshot and archive are alive. I want to remove doc and etc, but I don't know what to do. Kenji Arisawa From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Fri Oct 29 13:39:14 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Fri Oct 29 13:39:14 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6223A6398E for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 00:38:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E1ED263A8E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 00:38:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22363-01-18 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 00:38:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ar.aichi-u.ac.jp (ar.aichi-u.ac.jp [202.250.160.40]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 503F663A73 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 00:38:02 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: <6963B76A-294E-11D9-A0F9-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> References: <20041018102213.2af428c1.martin_ml@parvat.com> <20041018131031.78344aa9.martin_ml@parvat.com> <6963B76A-294E-11D9-A0F9-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <4F4B65D0-2964-11D9-A0F9-000393A941BC@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: arisawa@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: [9fans] venti i/o error Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:37:58 +0900 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Hello, I have reminded of venti/sync crash that happened few days ago. I think that can make venti i/o error. Now, I did: mv www _www.dead mkdir www and restored www using snapshot Sorry for my noise. Kenji Arisawa From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Sat Oct 30 11:33:44 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Sat Oct 30 11:33:44 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F240B63D74 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:33:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7FB2B639FE for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:32:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04134-02-65 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:32:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gau.lava.net (gau.lava.net [64.65.64.28]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 34AC9639F7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:32:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from malasada.lava.net (malasada.lava.net [64.65.64.17]) by gau.lava.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9991C17170 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:32:47 -1000 (HST) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:32:47 -1000 (HST) From: Tim Newsham To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] assembler question X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Is it possible to generate a 3-address ADD instruction for the 3-address machines (such as sparc using ka)? Without resorting to laying down the opcode manually, of course. Tim N. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Sat Oct 30 11:59:40 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Sat Oct 30 11:59:40 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DEC8363AE5 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:59:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6CAFE63A21 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:59:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09043-01-98 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:59:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BE80563A1D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:59:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 79so1205rnk for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:58:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=pQI+Vf2MyUDX7pilObnyMCN7XNNsYRxbQPEmGNDDRq4+dEf6a2e51QLfHVD0sZ3B60OEvqrhSirf4/5J/WSRmiduLvQWEXPlfsG9TpC5pi0WDv9lFf6L/RwQ1IrX7hSFBPzgvdy5HyColckcQgXqRefk+h9vNV+6XD2A7Sd1V/I= Received: by 10.38.65.64 with SMTP id n64mr6252rna; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:58:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.65.22 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:58:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:58:54 -0400 From: Russ Cox To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] assembler question In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Russ Cox , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > Is it possible to generate a 3-address ADD instruction for > the 3-address machines (such as sparc using ka)? Without > resorting to laying down the opcode manually, of course. Looking at /sys/src/cmd/ka/a.y:208, it appears you can just say ADDW r2, r3, r4. Have you tried this? Russ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Sat Oct 30 12:04:48 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Sat Oct 30 12:04:48 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 23EAD63B45 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:04:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 40C8863A15 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:04:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09036-02-17 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:04:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gau.lava.net (gau.lava.net [64.65.64.28]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DD70E63A09 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:04:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from malasada.lava.net (malasada.lava.net [64.65.64.17]) by gau.lava.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4061710F; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:04:11 -1000 (HST) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:04:11 -1000 (HST) From: Tim Newsham To: Russ Cox , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] assembler question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > Looking at /sys/src/cmd/ka/a.y:208, it appears you > can just say ADDW r2, r3, r4. Have you tried this? Ahh.. I was trying "ADD R1, $1, R2" but "ADD $1, R1, R2" seems to have worked. Sorry to raise a false warning. > Russ Tim N. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Sat Oct 30 18:02:10 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Sat Oct 30 18:02:10 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 549CD63AE5 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:02:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 91FCAC572 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:01:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 14568-02-49 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:01:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.204]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 26D23C565 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:01:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 79so12471rnk for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:01:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=NYQKGCz0Dz9OxeWLORjr4CzrHwPtJN5FeZ8Z8QbuODbWXHzhDkZ828WpLmGAKq4mxo/KovNxebBGoWtvlcxqX5h7b4zVzucEPBiwTReQtkkgz3F5WoWUSgP8Wm3k7oCb4j7chI7R1aCQ0YHjby1l/Ih3kScsCAaj+k2TULYHJLI= Received: by 10.38.65.64 with SMTP id n64mr124930rna; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.70.51 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <88a47756041030020149ad479e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 11:01:29 +0200 From: Matthias Teege To: Russ Cox Subject: Re: [9fans] install new 9load In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <88a477560410261028752fb43f@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Teege , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:50:24 -0400, Russ Cox wrote: > > cd /usr/src/boot/pc; mk > > 9fat: > > cp 9load /n/9fat/9LOAD > > so far so good, but call it 9load > not 9LOAD. then chmod +a /n/9fat/9load chmod gives me "can't wstat /n/9fat/9load: permission denied" Matthias From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Sat Oct 30 18:06:46 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Sat Oct 30 18:06:46 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3FF5663A01 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:06:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 41B6631686 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:06:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08672-03-33 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:06:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.aprote.ee (ns.aprote.ee [80.235.78.106]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AF0ED17A45 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:06:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: Message by Barricade ns.aprote.ee with ESMTP id i9U95qiZ005222 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:05:52 +0300 Received: from tiitl.aprote.com ([192.168.1.68]) by black.aprote.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:06:00 +0300 To: "Matthias Teege" , "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] install new 9load References: <88a477560410261028752fb43f@mail.gmail.com> <88a47756041030020149ad479e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: From: "Tiit Lankots" Organization: Aprote Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:05:58 +0300 In-Reply-To: <88a47756041030020149ad479e@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera M2/7.54 (Win32, build 3865) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Oct 2004 09:06:00.0764 (UTC) FILETIME=[AD0C1FC0:01C4BE5F] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > chmod gives me "can't wstat /n/9fat/9load: permission denied" > Matthias dossrv(4) Your 9load is messed up. prep(8) From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Sat Oct 30 18:26:43 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Sat Oct 30 18:26:43 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D161C31EC2 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:26:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id ACD0731EC3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:25:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 14568-02-91 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:25:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lavoro.terzarima.net (spc1-york1-5-0-cust142.seac.broadband.ntl.com [80.0.45.142]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 745823189C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:25:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] assembler question From: Charles Forsyth Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 10:24:18 +0100 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-mixwedwbidrsxxcsosqqcqlifg" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-mixwedwbidrsxxcsosqqcqlifg Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit be careful that all the plan 9 assemblers always use source -> dest data flow order for instructions, which can differ from the (sometimes inconsistent) order used by others. (i quite like this because once you know the rule, you won't get screwed up writing code for several architectures in the same hour, as i do, but it needs some attention if you're working from another code sample where the conventions are different.) --upas-mixwedwbidrsxxcsosqqcqlifg Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by lavoro; Sat Oct 30 04:05:30 BST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2077063AF9 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:04:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 40C8863A15 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:04:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09036-02-17 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:04:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gau.lava.net (gau.lava.net [64.65.64.28]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DD70E63A09 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:04:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from malasada.lava.net (malasada.lava.net [64.65.64.17]) by gau.lava.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4061710F; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:04:11 -1000 (HST) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:04:11 -1000 (HST) From: Tim Newsham To: Russ Cox , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] assembler question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+forsyth=terzarima.net@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+forsyth=terzarima.net@cse.psu.edu > Looking at /sys/src/cmd/ka/a.y:208, it appears you > can just say ADDW r2, r3, r4. Have you tried this? Ahh.. I was trying "ADD R1, $1, R2" but "ADD $1, R1, R2" seems to have worked. Sorry to raise a false warning. > Russ Tim N. --upas-mixwedwbidrsxxcsosqqcqlifg--