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However, it's designed for UTF-8 files, and pain to apply the same method to other code set, such as ISO-2022-JP. What a serious problem could arise, if I remove this 64Kbytes cache system,? Kenji --upas-mleuiqdgkckspadxueufqpumdy-- From owner-9fans@cse.psu.edu Mon Nov 8 03:19:41 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cse.psu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA29261 for 9fans-outgoing; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 03:19:41 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: claven.cse.psu.edu: majordom set sender to owner-9fans using -f Received: from dialup.ptt.ru ([195.34.0.100]) by cse.psu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA29257 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 03:19:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 58856 invoked from network); 8 Nov 1999 08:07:31 -0000 Received: from dialup-29097.dialup.ptt.ru (HELO letko-prvt) (195.34.29.97) by dialup.ptt.ru with SMTP; 8 Nov 1999 08:07:31 -0000 Message-ID: <002201bf29c0$42eab180$611d22c3@letko-prvt> From: "Artem Letko" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: [9fans] Oil on the water. A year later. Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 11:07:08 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by cse.psu.edu id DAA29258 Sender: owner-9fans@cse.psu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu It's well over a year since Rob Pike gave his clarifications regarding new Plan9 distribution. How things are going now? Does disappearance of Inferno business affect the process somehow? Artem. From owner-9fans@cse.psu.edu Mon Nov 8 17:16:03 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cse.psu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA18169 for 9fans-outgoing; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:16:03 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: claven.cse.psu.edu: majordom set sender to owner-9fans using -f Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by cse.psu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA18165 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:15:58 -0500 (EST) From: jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com Message-Id: <199911082215.RAA18165@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Oil on the water. A year later. Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:15:36 -0500 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-9fans@cse.psu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu aletko@iname.com wrote: >It's well over a year since Rob Pike gave his clarifications >regarding new Plan9 distribution. How things are going now? >Does disappearance of Inferno business affect the process somehow? Things are still proceeding along the lines Rob indicated, although it's still too early for any details. The spin-out of Inferno doesn't constrain us. --jim From owner-9fans@cse.psu.edu Mon Nov 8 21:50:40 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cse.psu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA27504 for 9fans-outgoing; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 21:50:40 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: claven.cse.psu.edu: majordom set sender to owner-9fans using -f Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.91.52]) by cse.psu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA27499 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 21:50:31 -0500 (EST) From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp Message-Id: <199911090250.VAA27499@cse.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 11:50:10 +0900 Subject: Re: [9fans] 64KB wall for sendmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; CHARSET="UTF-8" Sender: owner-9fans@cse.psu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Thanks Dave. I had, fortunately, success to deal with larger Japanese JIS coded files than 64 K bytes with upas system with 64K bytes virtual memory version. I put the boddle file to our usual home page (http://basalt.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp/plan9/p9index.html), which is written in UTF-8. In additon, the libtcs has also been updated. I noticed, this is my first time, the larger file problem occurred when I wrote an introductory article on Plan 9 and tried to send/receive that text with a magazine publisher. :-) The article exceeds 80Kbytes in its file size with a figure. ^_^ Kenji From owner-9fans@cse.psu.edu Tue Nov 9 03:33:55 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cse.psu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA02786 for 9fans-outgoing; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 03:33:55 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: claven.cse.psu.edu: majordom set sender to owner-9fans using -f Received: from caldo.demon.co.uk (caldo.demon.co.uk [194.222.207.148]) by cse.psu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA02777 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 03:33:50 -0500 (EST) From: forsyth@caldo.demon.co.uk Message-Id: <199911090833.DAA02777@cse.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 08:35:12 GMT Subject: Re: [9fans] 64KB wall for sendmail Sender: owner-9fans@cse.psu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu there will be a problem sending email larger than 64k whether utf or not if you don't chmod 777 /mail/tmp so that upas can drop the remainder of larger messages there. after that, you can send and receive megabytes happily, until you get the phone bill. the only restriction (i think) is that the header must fit in the first 64k. that's usually not a problem even with chatty rfc822+mime. From owner-9fans@cse.psu.edu Tue Nov 9 19:41:48 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cse.psu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA27461 for 9fans-outgoing; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 19:41:47 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: claven.cse.psu.edu: majordom set sender to owner-9fans using -f Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.91.52]) by cse.psu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA27455 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 19:41:41 -0500 (EST) From: okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp Message-Id: <199911100041.TAA27455@cse.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:41:21 +0900 Subject: Re: [9fans] 64KB wall for sendmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; CHARSET="UTF-8" Sender: owner-9fans@cse.psu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu >utf or not if you don't > chmod 777 /mail/tmp Yes, you are right. I noticed this through to get it work, although I forgot to metion it in my boddle file. 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Sender: owner-9fans@cse.psu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu see pp 208-13 of The UNIX Programming Environment by B W Kernighan and Rob Pike, and the end of the chapter for credits and references. the Cornell PL/1 compiler used a similar approach to do spelling correction on keywords as part of a broader attempt to repair all obvious errors in the given program; the results were amusing if not enlightening, as they so often are with AI. From owner-9fans@cse.psu.edu Thu Nov 11 05:56:18 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cse.psu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA20600 for 9fans-outgoing; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 05:56:17 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: claven.cse.psu.edu: majordom set sender to owner-9fans using -f Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by cse.psu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA20595 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 05:56:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.core.genedata.com (nila-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.44]) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.10.0.Beta6/8.10.0.Beta6) with ESMTP id dABAu8F01402 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:56:08 +0100 Received: from relay.ch.genedata.com (pinatubo-e0.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.48]) by relay.core.genedata.com (8.10.0.Beta6/8.10.0.Beta6) with ESMTP id dABAu7H04135 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:56:07 +0100 Received: from stromboli (enh@stromboli.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.81]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA900278 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:56:05 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:56:05 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199911111056.LAA900278@relay.ch.genedata.com> From: Elliott Hughes To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Brian Kernighan? Sender: owner-9fans@cse.psu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu forsyth wrote: > the Cornell PL/1 compiler used a similar approach to > do spelling correction on keywords as part of a broader > attempt to repair all obvious errors in the given program; the results > were amusing if not enlightening, as they so often are with AI. IBM's jikes Java compiler also tries spelling correction, but its ideas of proximity have nothing to do with any human's. it's particularly unfortunate that it doesn't even know about the Java naming conventions. (not that i necessarily think it should, it's just that if it's going to try to guess what you meant to type, it would be better off making educated guesses.) there's a big difference between correcting simple typos and more complicated "wrong identifier" errors. anyway, back to the point: the original questioner might be interested in "Finding Approximate Matches in Large Lexicons" by Justin Zobel (jz@cs.rmit.oz.au) and Philip Dart (philip@cs.mu.oz.au), which was the best paper i found when trying to come up with decent guesses in a "dict"-like program. btw, has anyone had better luck than i at getting information about the CD-ROM version of the OED, with a view to having a Plan 9/Unix OED "dict"? ever since i read the acme paper with its "futtock" example, i've been jealous. -- "As the Chinese say, 1001 words is worth more than a picture." -- John McCarthy From owner-9fans@cse.psu.edu Thu Nov 11 06:05:48 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cse.psu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA21006 for 9fans-outgoing; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 06:05:48 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: claven.cse.psu.edu: majordom set sender to owner-9fans using -f Received: from cackle.proxima.alt.za (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.28.218.141]) by cse.psu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21001 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 06:05:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from lucio@localhost) by cackle.proxima.alt.za (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA08636 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:10:29 +0200 (SAST) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:10:29 +0200 From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Brian Kernighan? Message-ID: <19991111131028.L7992@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Reply-To: lucio@proxima.alt.za Mail-Followup-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu References: <199911111056.LAA900278@relay.ch.genedata.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: <199911111056.LAA900278@relay.ch.genedata.com>; from Elliott Hughes on Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 11:56:05AM +0100 Sender: owner-9fans@cse.psu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 11:56:05AM +0100, Elliott Hughes wrote: > > anyway, back to the point: the original questioner might be > interested in "Finding Approximate Matches in Large Lexicons" > by Justin Zobel (jz@cs.rmit.oz.au) and Philip Dart (philip@cs.mu.oz.au), > which was the best paper i found when trying to come up with > decent guesses in a "dict"-like program. > Thank you for the additional information. As it happens, I'm looking to match full mail names against potential spelling errors. The dictionary is consequently not very large, and the problem should be tractable. It's just that regular expressions don't quite cut it :-( ++L From owner-9fans@cse.psu.edu Thu Nov 11 06:14:41 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cse.psu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA21210 for 9fans-outgoing; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 06:14:41 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: claven.cse.psu.edu: majordom set sender to owner-9fans using -f Received: from caldo.demon.co.uk (caldo.demon.co.uk [194.222.207.148]) by cse.psu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA21206 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 06:14:33 -0500 (EST) From: forsyth@caldo.demon.co.uk Message-Id: <199911111114.GAA21206@cse.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:16:19 GMT Subject: Re: [9fans] Brian Kernighan? Sender: owner-9fans@cse.psu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu >>looking to match full mail names against potential spelling >>errors. The dictionary is consequently not very large, and the although the spdist technique might be good enough in practice, there are other techniques for matching names; i'd try searching the online bibliographic databases for references. some of them aren't much more effort to implement. From owner-9fans@cse.psu.edu Thu Nov 11 06:18:07 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cse.psu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA21392 for 9fans-outgoing; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 06:18:06 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: claven.cse.psu.edu: majordom set sender to owner-9fans using -f Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by cse.psu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21388 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 06:17:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from sirius.we.lc.ehu.es (sirius [158.227.6.30]) by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA07954 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:17:38 +0100 (MET) From: Borja Marcos Received: (from borjam@localhost) by sirius.we.lc.ehu.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA11927 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:17:37 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199911111117.MAA11927@sirius.we.lc.ehu.es> Subject: Re: [9fans] Brian Kernighan?OB To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:17:36 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199911111056.LAA900278@relay.ch.genedata.com> from "Elliott Hughes" at Nov 11, 99 11:56:05 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-9fans@cse.psu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu > > IBM's jikes Java compiler also tries spelling correction, but its > ideas of proximity have nothing to do with any human's. it's > particularly unfortunate that it doesn't even know about the > Java naming conventions. (not that i necessarily think it should, > it's just that if it's going to try to guess what you meant to type, > it would be better off making educated guesses.) A friend of mine of mine wrote a Ph.D. thesis describing a the use of fuzzy logic to improve the behavior of an OCR system capable of recognizing handwritten text. The idea was to write a prototype Pascal compiler capable of getting handwritten code. Of course, this works with a limited dictionary, such as the set of reserved words in Pascal. The recognition rate increased dramatically over the result of the pure OCR, done with a neural network. You can contact him by email if you are interested. His name is Javier Echanobe, and his email address is javi@we.lc.ehu.es. 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