Mon Apr 10 11:44:42 EDT 2006 rsc Mon Apr 10 11:58:51 EDT 2006 rsc It's entirely possible that the spammer has control of a dns server and simply creates a name, sends the mail, and then deletes the name. Easy enough and nothing you can do about it. That said, the norecursion flag is really just a clumsy hack around the fact that the Plan 9 dns server accepts glue records indiscriminately from anyone. See http://ketil.froyn.name/poison.html for a good description and demonstration. cpu% ndb/dnsquery > bad.ketil.froyn.name ns bad.ketil.froyn.name ns www.example.com > www.example.com ip www.example.com ip 217.144.230.29 > ^D cpu% That's wrong. The www.example.com glue record in the bad.ketil.froyn.name ns lookup should have been ignored. I would be very happy if someone would fix this. Thanks. Russ